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Lowetide
August 05 2011 08:01AM

Steve Tambellini did an excellent job on July 1st going up and down the aisles and crossing items off his shopping list. There are still a couple of items remaining: a legit top 4 defender (may not be coming) and a goaltender who can provide competition at the top end and insurance at the bottom end. The names are running out.

It's my opinion that the Oilers can make a claim that the blueline has been covered off well enough to enter training camp. The opening night depth chart might look like this:

  • Whitney-Barker
  • Smid-Gilbert
  • Peckham-Sutton
  • Chorney

Jeff Petry being the first callup. I think that's how the Oilers are slotting things, but will say that Jeff Petry has an enormous opportunity in the fall and I expect he'll make the team.

Who's out there?

Defensively, there are still some good options. Scott Hannan remains unsigned, Chris Campoli, Bryan McCabe and a few others who might be useful. I have no idea if the Oilers have interest in any of them, but would suggest that a guy like Hannan would improve the depth chart of the 11-12 Oilers.

There's no goalies left!

Well, yes there are. Their pricetag may be too dear, but Marty Turco, Pascal Leclaire and others are still available. I doubt the Oilers would sign an expensive option for the AHL#1-NHL #3 option, but someone like Mike Brodeur (in photo) might fit the bill.

I remain convinced the Oilers will not leave the terminal with the current goaltending. Brodeur is an AHL veteran, not the best goaltender available but this is late summer. Nolan Schaeffer and John Grahame are also available. Grahame is 35 but comes off an AHL season in which his SP (.911) and his playoff SP (.918) imply there's something left.

John Grahame might be a useful player for the 11-12 OKC Barons, and he could come in handy to the 11-12 Edmonton Oilers. We wait.

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#1 OvenChicken8 - Team JSBM
August 05 2011, 08:04AM
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Any Ottawa goalie is just cursed, I'd say stay clear from Mike Brodeur. Grahame I could understand, he would help shore up the OKC goaltending but I can't see him being any more/less effective in the NHL than JDD was.

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#2 Dean Belanger
August 05 2011, 08:04AM
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FIST!

Damn!

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#4 @Oilanderp
August 05 2011, 08:13AM
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Where is Bryan Pitton these days? ECHL? Does he still have a pro contract with the Oil? With Gerber and JDD gone I am amazed Tamby only signed Danis.

Is Olivier Roy eligible to play in OKC? And do you really want your young developing goalie to play backup all season at this point in his career?

I am afraid. Very afraid. One injury and this entire house of cards comes crashing down into my whiskey.

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#5 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 08:16AM
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Pick up Hannan and we might actually have an outside shot at the PO.

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#6 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 08:19AM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

Where is Bryan Pitton these days? ECHL? Does he still have a pro contract with the Oil? With Gerber and JDD gone I am amazed Tamby only signed Danis.

Is Olivier Roy eligible to play in OKC? And do you really want your young developing goalie to play backup all season at this point in his career?

I am afraid. Very afraid. One injury and this entire house of cards comes crashing down into my whiskey.

"One injury and this entire house of cards comes crashing down into my whiskey."

Yup, a long term (call it 30+ games) to DD and Whitney would pretty much make us a lock for the lottery again IMO.

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#7 BurkeTheTurd
August 05 2011, 08:21AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Pick up Hannan and we might actually have an outside shot at the PO.

Hannan would be an excellent add... anyone that thinks otherwise needs to pick up thier game

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#8 They're $hittie
August 05 2011, 08:28AM
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I think the oilers delibrately want Roy to overplay in the AHL. With the lack of playing time for JDD and DD in the minors for years i think they are overcompensation playing time for Roy. Hey and if he gets wrecked by too much time they have bunz.

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#9 shau_co
August 05 2011, 08:41AM
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It seems there's not much left for goalers out there. But, I agree a little more depth is needed.

One question for you LT:

What ever happenedd to all of the Viktor Fasth talk? Is there zero possibility of him signing in the NHL this season?

I keep finding myself looking to next year's UFA list for defense and goalies and I get excited. I really think we have turned a corner and other players are going to start to want to come to Edmonton soon. Just imagine the Oiler's sign a guy like Rinne next year - that would be sweet!

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#10 Mike Krushelnyski
August 05 2011, 08:42AM
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Are there any good European options out there for goaltenders? I'm of the opinion that we need to sign two depth goalies, not just one. Khabibulin will get hurt if he plays significant time, we can pretty much just accept that as fact, and then we have 3 goalies in the entire organization, one of whom has never played a professional game in his life.

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#11 Ender
August 05 2011, 08:45AM
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Sean Avery gets arrested for shoving a cop. Sometimes the whole 'karma' concept makes a lot of sense, eh?

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#12 hamzinoilcntry
August 05 2011, 08:56AM
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The funniest part about Sean Avery is that as of Friday morning he is still in jail waiting the 20k bond to be paid. Proving that even his "friends" think he is a douche and won't come bail his dumb a$$ out of jail!!

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#13 Lochenzo
August 05 2011, 09:05AM
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I don't mind the idea of leaving a small gap here or there on defense if you have lots of young talent. There is a hole in the defense, but there are a few youngs guys that we would love to see elevate their games. Smid, Peckham, Petry, Barker, Chorney. This is an opportunity for each of these kids and their reward is additional ice time.

As for goal, this is a hole I would like to see filled. Roy had some highs and lows last year and I think he needs to go somewhere where he can have lots of success and also sees lots of rubber. Maybe the intent is to start him in the ECHL and dangle the proverbial carrot in front of him by having an opening in the AHL that could be his if he works hard.

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#14 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 09:48AM
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Lochenzo wrote:

I don't mind the idea of leaving a small gap here or there on defense if you have lots of young talent. There is a hole in the defense, but there are a few youngs guys that we would love to see elevate their games. Smid, Peckham, Petry, Barker, Chorney. This is an opportunity for each of these kids and their reward is additional ice time.

As for goal, this is a hole I would like to see filled. Roy had some highs and lows last year and I think he needs to go somewhere where he can have lots of success and also sees lots of rubber. Maybe the intent is to start him in the ECHL and dangle the proverbial carrot in front of him by having an opening in the AHL that could be his if he works hard.

I agree to a point, but I wouldn't call the current gap "small" our defense actually doesn't look alot different then last years... which was one of the worst in the league.

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#15 Reggie
August 05 2011, 09:57AM
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bikini girl tweeted that the Oilers were going to sign a FA goalie, but needed to shed a contract first.

I thought they were sitting at 49, but maybe they figure that Fraser is coming back as part of the Smyth trade debacle ?

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#16 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 10:11AM
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i think the oil will make a waiver pick up when other teams start making their roster cuts in camp.

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#17 WeepForTheSin
August 05 2011, 10:11AM
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Reggie wrote:

bikini girl tweeted that the Oilers were going to sign a FA goalie, but needed to shed a contract first.

I thought they were sitting at 49, but maybe they figure that Fraser is coming back as part of the Smyth trade debacle ?

I'd guess that they don't want to max out contracts period. Flexibility is a nice thing to have throughout the season. If I were Tambo, I would hate to not be able to make a trade because of contract limits and such.

Also the Fraser ordeal, just another example of a situation where contract flexibility is an important commodity.

I don't know if I believe this TreenasOil has any connections, but I think she has the right idea regardless. One injury to one of DD, Khabi or Danis, and Roy is playing starter in the AHL. I'm not convinced he is ready for that.

We need an AHL veteran, and it would be beneficial to trade a contract before we got one.

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#18 MJ
August 05 2011, 10:12AM
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It appears in this Swedish article that Fasth decided not to go to the NHL.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhockey.expressen.se%2Felitserien%2F1.2513117%2Fskrallaget-aik-laddar-infor-annu-ett-succear&act=url

AIK got to keep the goalkeeper Viktor Fasth, it was silly season important news for the club. Has the rest recruited sparingly and has retained much of last season's succélag.

Viktor Fasth turned down all offers from the NHL team was complete record early.

Silly season important news -- that's got me convinced!

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#19 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 10:13AM
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@@Oilanderp

pitton is no longer part of our organization.

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#20 K
August 05 2011, 10:14AM
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That's alot of left handed d on that depth chart. I think Tambellini missed something on his shopping list. This years d will only be as good as last years. We rely heavily on Whitney and gilberts health. Again

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#21 shau_co
August 05 2011, 10:33AM
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K wrote:

That's alot of left handed d on that depth chart. I think Tambellini missed something on his shopping list. This years d will only be as good as last years. We rely heavily on Whitney and gilberts health. Again

I agree that is a lot of left handers and based on it, I have a gut feeling that the starting 7 D will be:

Whitney - Petry

Smid - Gilbert

Barker - Peckham

Sutton

I am thinking the Oil are expecting Petry to make it and since he is a righty, it changes things a bit. But, who knows...

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#22 c_tux
August 05 2011, 10:37AM
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@Mantastic

I'll believe this when I see it. They had a chance to improve the D with a solid player in Colin White but passed.

I doubt there will be many if any waiver wire players as effective as White is.

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#23 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 10:40AM
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@c_tux

for 3m i wouldn't have picked him up, 29 other gm's agreed.

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#24 shau_co
August 05 2011, 10:41AM
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True, but White is another left-handed D. It's tough to ice a line-up with only one right-handed D.

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#25 shau_co
August 05 2011, 10:45AM
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I believe Sutton will be our 7th d-man.

Although I placed Petry in the lineup above, Corey Potter is another right-handed D that could push the roster out of camp.

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#26 smokey
August 05 2011, 10:52AM
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C tex, I think that the Oiler passed on him as every other team because White is 4-5 guy at best at this stage in his career. Every team passed because no one absorbing a 3 mil contract when if you could get him for less. I don't know what he signed for but I don't imagine it was 3 mil. Lou got rid of for cap reasons, but he wasn't a top four in New Jersey from what I read, hence it was him who got singled out to get dumped. I guess an eye injury effected his vision and puck moving abilities. His presence I don't think would put the Oil in a playoff spot like some think. I think Tambo will address defence down the road if feels they are competative.

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#27 David S
August 05 2011, 10:53AM
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I know there's the whole "might lose him on waivers" thing, but in what universe is Chorney better than Petry? To my mind, getting Chorney gone would be a solid step forward next year. He just stunk the place out last season.

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#28 c_tux
August 05 2011, 11:05AM
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RE: Colin White

3m for a guy who would no doubt be a 3-4 guy in Edm is a tad steep for sure. But,there is no denying he would make our D better especially on the PK. Plus, he is the exact type of player you can dump at the deadline for a team looking for play-off depth and experience.

We have the cap space and he'd surely bring in a good return at the deadline. It makes sense to me.

Out of curiousity does anyone have any potential waiver players in mind for the blueline?

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#29 c_tux
August 05 2011, 11:10AM
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@c_tux

And yes I know he signed in San Jose for 1M.

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#30 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 11:10AM
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@c_tux

3m at trade deadline would be hard to move for teams trying to lock up their D for playoffs, assuming most playoff teams are close to the cap.

if we have RNH on our roster next year and picked up white, we would have less then 2m to our cap for a team that's not really close to a playoff team, that's crazy high.

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#31 etownman
August 05 2011, 11:13AM
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I can't see the Oilers going outside the organization for D help from this point going forward! I think they really like what young guys Plante & Teubert bring to the dance & they'll continue to develop that. Lot's of other talent on the horizon as well. Petry will make the big club in my opinion, too much talent to leave at OKC! The Oil will be knocking on the playoff door this season!

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#32 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 11:15AM
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we have lots of RHD down on the farm and lots of LHD up in the show. weird how it works out that way.

also the way chorney's 2-way contract looks, he will be in the show this year, i know it's not the best option but that's just the way it'll turn out

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#33 Quicksilver ballet
August 05 2011, 11:18AM
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I feel we should sit tight and do nothing. We don't want to ruin our chances of taking Aaron Ekblad first overall in the 2014 entry draft.

Be patient, this is all part of Steve Tambellinis 6 consecutive first overall draftpick plan..........stay the course, you silly biotches.

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#34 c_tux
August 05 2011, 11:18AM
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@Mantastic

He would have been a UFA next year no?

Our cap # is so high because of overpay contracts like Khabby and Horc. Our buyout spree over the last couple seasons doesn't help either.

We disagree on this point and that's fine. Let's just leave it at that.

Can you think of any potential waiver wire D-men that would improve us?

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#35 book¡e
August 05 2011, 11:19AM
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One of the things Tambellini has said is that he doesn't want to have any players here who don't want to play in Edmonton.

Perhaps that includes White.

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#36 Master Lok
August 05 2011, 11:22AM
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for 3m i wouldn't have picked him up, 29 other gm's agreed.

29 Other gm's didn't finish 30th with the worst defense in the league and plenty of cap space. It's really hard to believe the Oilers had a problem with a one year contract for $3 million for Colin White, and yet had signed Khabibulin to a four year contract.

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#37 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 11:24AM
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@c_tux

yes he would be UFA next year, he would only be a stop-gap measure and would only improve us in the short term. which in-turn will not help us in the long term.

and for potential waiver wire pick-ups it's way too soon to tell because camp hasn't even started yet for anyone and rosters aren't close to being set. and tbh, pretty much any d-man we would pick up would really help us regardless, we had awful defense last season.

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#38 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 11:27AM
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@Master Lok

what does signing re-khabby 2 years ago have to do with the present state of not picking up a 3m defender?

if we pick up pretty much any other FA d-man it would improve us regardless. might as well kept souray then.

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#39 D-Man
August 05 2011, 12:05PM
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David S wrote:

I know there's the whole "might lose him on waivers" thing, but in what universe is Chorney better than Petry? To my mind, getting Chorney gone would be a solid step forward next year. He just stunk the place out last season.

Chorney isn't better than Petry... We know what we're getting with Chorney - we don't completely know with Petry... Petry is better off playing 20 minutes plus per night in the AHL than sitting in the press box or playing 10 minutes as a #6 d-man...

I wouldn't mind Petry starting in OKC to start the season for 20 games to see how Barker plays... If Barker can turn into the top two-three defensemen he was when he was drafted, then we don't necessarily need to rush Petry into a top four role.

Of course, if Petry blows the doors off during preseason and earn a spot with Gilbert (as a #3/#4) and prove he can handle the minutes, then Chorney is waived/sent back to OKC and Sutton becomes your #7 with Smid/Peckham as your #5/#6.

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#40 shau_co
August 05 2011, 12:06PM
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I think you guys are missing a very important fact that White is another left-hadned d-man! This is not trivial.

If you watched Oil Change, Smid was asked more than once to move to the right side and he said he was quite uncomfortable doing that.

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#41 TigerUnderGlass
August 05 2011, 12:08PM
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@Mantastic

3m at trade deadline would be hard to move for teams trying to lock up their D for playoffs, assuming most playoff teams are close to the cap.

This is false. The fact that the contracts are pro-rated as the season progresses would have made him an ideal player to move at the deadline because his contract is the type that teams couldn't afford over an entire season but could afford from the deadline to make a cup run.

yes he would be UFA next year, he would only be a stop-gap measure and would only improve us in the short term. which in-turn will not help us in the long term.

1. What is wrong with a deal that only helps short term? Why is that bad? Could this team not use short term improvement? Why does every single move the team makes need to be purely future based?

2. Doesn't an improved defensive group help develop the youth by a) keeping them from having to do too much too soon, and b) making them compete for roster spots? That seems like a long term benefit to me.

A player on a one year deal is exactly what we need because it accomplishes the above while not causing future impediment to the youth.

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#42 c_tux
August 05 2011, 12:12PM
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@Mantastic

Stop-gap measure is exactly why I thought it'd be a good pick up. Buy some time to slowly work in Petry and see how guys like Teubert progress in OKC. My plan would have been to dump him at the deadline to a contender for picks/prospects etc anyways.

I pretty much guarantee there won't be a White calibre d-man available on waivers after TC.

As book(upside down !)e said, he probably didn't want to come here anyways so that might have been the deciding factor.

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#43 Bob Cobb
August 05 2011, 12:16PM
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Bikini Girl? First Trinasoil now Bikini Girl, Bob Stauffer must have more than one Twitter account.

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#44 Reggie
August 05 2011, 12:33PM
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@Bob Cobb

Lowetide calls Trinasoil Bikini Girl because of her profile pic.

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#45 Mantastic
August 05 2011, 12:34PM
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@TigerUnderGlass

1. of course any team can use short term improvements but to really fix the problem is to develop/evaluate our homegrown talent for us.

2. having an improved defense doesn't necessarily help develop our youth, yes it will help peckham and smid but not petry or the rest of our farm squad. there is already competition for slots (yes i know it's not very good competition but competition none-the-less) in our defense and if you look at our defensive depth, there is a giant log jam in trying to get our prospects quality time on the farm while trying to develop them properly at the same time.

picking up an OK 4-5th d-man is only going to make that worse. i can understand picking up some legit vet skill in getting someone like hannah but someone like white really isn't the way we should be going. i totally understand where you're coming from but that's how i see things.

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#46 Lochenzo
August 05 2011, 01:05PM
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Since Dean Lombardi is already mad at us, might as well sign Drew Doughty!

Actually, giving up 4 1st round picks scares me, especially for a rebuilding team.

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#47 K-UGER Industrial Smoothing
August 05 2011, 01:06PM
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LT- do you really think Barker is going to start the year on the first pairing?

Based on his CORSI shouldnt we be hesitant to give him so many minutes?

Beyond that, its my opinion that Gilbert plays better when paired with Whitney. I'd like to see Smid and either Peckham or Barker on the second pairing, with Sutton and whoevers left over from the second pairing filling in on the third.

thoughts?

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#48 @Oilanderp
August 05 2011, 01:18PM
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Bob Cobb wrote:

Bikini Girl? First Trinasoil now Bikini Girl, Bob Stauffer must have more than one Twitter account.

I guess Bob has lots of time on his hands since I can't seem to find Oilers Lunch anywhere!

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#49 @Oilanderp
August 05 2011, 01:24PM
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@TigerUnderGlass

Could you provide me with a link as to how to quote things in two separate instances in a nice shaded box? Thanks in advance!

A handy hypertext technique!

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#50 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 05 2011, 01:31PM
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Mantastic wrote:

1. of course any team can use short term improvements but to really fix the problem is to develop/evaluate our homegrown talent for us.

2. having an improved defense doesn't necessarily help develop our youth, yes it will help peckham and smid but not petry or the rest of our farm squad. there is already competition for slots (yes i know it's not very good competition but competition none-the-less) in our defense and if you look at our defensive depth, there is a giant log jam in trying to get our prospects quality time on the farm while trying to develop them properly at the same time.

picking up an OK 4-5th d-man is only going to make that worse. i can understand picking up some legit vet skill in getting someone like hannah but someone like white really isn't the way we should be going. i totally understand where you're coming from but that's how i see things.

Why is develop/evaluate our own the way to *really* fix the problem?

As far as I can tell their isn't a team out there that didn't sign or trade for a handful of significant pieces on their roster.

I'm pretty sure that if we want to really fix the problem we want to aquire as many good hockey players as possible that complement each other well.

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