HOLEY KHABBY!!!

Jason Gregor
September 21 2011 12:57AM

The fans at Rexall might have set a preseason record for the earliest BOOOOOOO of the season, when they voiced their displeasure after Nikolai Khabibulin allowed a 3rd goal only 18:35 into the first period. Khabibulin allowed three goals on seven shots, and while you can't blame him on the first one, we've seen this horror movie before.

He needs to stop the puck.

You could point to a rookie pinch by Martin Marincin that gave the Wild a 2-on-1 that Pierre-Marc Bouchard roofed upstairs for the 3rd goal, but Khabibulin was way too deep in his crease on the shot. There are no excuses for how he played. His only saving grace was that it was a preseason game.

He looked rusty, but unlike previous years I'm not certain he will get the chance to play his way into tip-top shape. Devan Dubnyk is right behind, or right beside, him on the depth chart, and Tom Renney doesn't have the luxury of allowing the Bulin Wall to get his game together brick-by-brick. Khabibulin needs to have his foundation in place during his next two preseason performances or he won't, or shouldn't, be starting on October 9th against the Penguins.

Khabibulin had the worst SV% of any starting goalie last year; an embarrassing .890% to go along with a pathetic 3.40 GAA. His SV% was even worse than Brian Elliott, Dan Ellis and Peter Budaj. Brian freaking Elliott was better than him.

Dubnyk played behind the same porous defense and inexperienced forwards, yet he managed a respectable .916 SV% and 2.71 GAA. Last night junior goalie, Tyler Bunz, relieved Khabibulin halfway through the second frame and stopped the first ten shots he faced. He stopped 10 of 11 and looked much more comfortable than Khabibulin.

You can say it was only a preseason game, but at what point does Renney stop waiting for Khabibulin to find his game. Maybe he can't find it? Maybe he doesn't have it anymore? 

It sounds like Yann Danis and David LeNeveu will split the game on Thursday, so that leaves five more preseason tilts. Will the Oilers give Khabibulin three full starts and Dubnyk two? Dubnyk said he was hoping to start one game this coming weekend and then one next weekend, but if he is playing better maybe he gets the extra start?

I've always said you can't take too much out of the first preseason game, but normally I'm talking about some young rookie who scored two goals and people think he's ready for the Show. In Khabibulin's case, we've all seen two years of sub-par hockey from him, and last night's effort only increased the doubt in the mind of Oiler fans.

I wonder if that same doubt is creeping into the psyche of the coaching staff?

SWEDES SHINE 

While Magnus Paajarvi, Anton Lander and Linus Omark didn't look this good last night, the "Tre Kroner Konnection" had a great first game together. They combined for two goals, three assists, ten shots, three hits, three takeaways and they averaged 19:15 of icetime. They all looked dangerous at different times, and I'm sure Renney would like to give them another chance to play together very soon.

Paajarvi and Lander were clearly the best of the three, and what I liked most about Lander was his post-game reaction. He was legitimately annoyed that they lost. He hates losing and he couldn't hide it. It's nice to see a guy who cares that much. Paajarvi told me that Lander hates losing more than anyone he's ever played with, and that's the exact type of attitude the Oilers need.

I still think Lander will start the season in the AHL, but if he play like this when the opposition ices a veteran team then he might force Renney to make a tough decision.

I also like Antti Tyrvainen's game. He only played 8:54, but I noticed him often. He showed a nice touch on his goal and he isn't afraid to go in the corners. He's another guy who needs to keep getting noticed as the games become more competitive, but so far so good.

I thought Kirill Tulupov played okay, considering his young D partner, Martin Marincin, really struggled early. Tulupov might earn himself a two-way contract in the next few weeks. Marincin is not strong enough to play in the AHL this year. He didn't gain enough strength this off-season, and I won't be surprised if the Oiler elect to have him train in Edmonton rather than back home in the Czech next summer. I don't think he was able to train enough, or get the proper guidance necessary to gain muscle and strength properly.

Sending Marincin back to junior means his contract won't count towards the 50 contract cap, and that could open up a spot for Tulupov.

SASKATOON

The feed for the Oilers/Hawks game kept buffering every three seconds so I wasn't able to watch it, but I got some reports from guys there and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins looked more than comfortable in his first preseason game. He assisted on Ryan Smyth's opening goal, missed an open net and generated quite a few chances. One person within the organization gave him a B+ ranking.

Smyth played like it was 2007 and mixed in a few saucer passes for fun. He told me at the morning skate he hadn't been this excited for a preseason game in a decade, and, despite his age, he wants to show Renney he can still be a go-to guy.

Josh Green potted a pair of goals, and while he's destined to start the season in OKC, more for his leadership than anything, he clearly doesn't want to get sent down without a fight. I'm guessing we see Green re-called as an injury replacement at some point during the season. He could fill a void for five to ten games.

QUICK HITS

  • The Oilers will keep at least 15 D-men until Saturday, unless Renney wants to play a guy in three straight games. Ryan Whitney, Colten Teubert and Andy Sutton are in camp, but none are likely to play until Sunday at the earliest. There will be some cuts tomorrow, because they only have two ice slots scheduled. They won't cram 27 or 28 guys into each session.
     
  • I thought Bunz looked solid once again, and if he goes back to Medicine Hat and doesn't have a slow start I'm certain he'll suit up for Canada at the WJC in Edmonton/Calgary this Christmas.
     
  • Hopefully on Saturday night the Internet feed for the Oilers/Flames game won't be as inconsistent as it was last night. You can watch Thursday's game on TSN and Sunday's game in Calgary on Sportsnet.
     
  • Which players did you like last night? Who didn't you like?  
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#51 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
September 21 2011, 10:58AM
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At 19 yrs old this Tyler Bunz kid is a rare breed. The kid has the level of comfort in his game not usually seen in kids his age. Always in control and not a wasted movement, he looks like a Carey Price clone to me. His ability to get from side to side in net is already better than Dubnyks i feel.

The Oilers hopefully sign this kid soon. Come this time next year, he has a chnce to bypass Dubnyk,Roy and Denis in goal next fall.

I'll put money on Lander being this first kid to put his stick through that showcase of memories in the Oiler dressing room. That room needs more kids who can't stand losing.

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#52 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 11:04AM
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@Next up, is Connor McJesus.

I still think he does the Omark thing and gets stuck in the AHL until space is cleared via trade or injury. At this pace he wont stay long in the AHL at all.

My guess is that even though he wont start the season on the big club, he still plays in 40+ games for the Oil.

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#53 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
September 21 2011, 11:06AM
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vetinari wrote:

I was at the Saskatoon split squad last night and Chicago dominated the first 15 minutes but Dub held them scoreless. For the Oilers, the first line was Smyth-RNH-Eberle, and frankly, they were the most creatively minded and consistent... RNH looked solid and my money is on him getting at least a 9 game look for the regular season if not more... Hartikainen was banging bodies everywhere and strangely, Petrell stood out in his 2 way game and blocking shots in a preseason game... for Chicago, J. Toews, Mayers and Leddy looked ready to go for the season.

Thanks for this.

Do you recall the shots on net? The Oilers outshot Minny 31 - 21 last night in Edmonton. They were doubling them at one point 28 - 14. They outplayed Minny for most of the game.

Three reasons the Oilers lost:

1. Penalties

2. Khabby

3. Josh Harding

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#54 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
September 21 2011, 11:15AM
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@Archaeologuy

Mr. Dithers has two weeks to throw a lifeline to that defence that he thinks will be adaquate for this coming season. 89 best not be sending out any drycleaning next week.

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#55 Fuzzy muppet
September 21 2011, 11:17AM
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Dman09 wrote:

Ya i disagree, if Gagner doesn't come out flying I think they need to move him to the wing. 50 points a year and almost every year. The guy just shouldn't be at center.

At who's expense? Omark? Hemsky? Eberle? Hall? Smyth? Paarjarvi? He cant play bottom six so...one of gagner/hemsky is long gone before the seasons out

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#56 K-UGER Industrial Smoothing
September 21 2011, 11:29AM
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I think we can start expecting more trade talks with the Oilers as positions start to get filled. IF they feel comfortable with RNH / Lander I wouldnt be surprised to see them make a move with one of our young forwards (pick one, but to me it looks like Gagner), and a depth forward (Brule, Jones) potentially for a D-man.

I just dont see how we can have this many bodies and keep everyone happy- despite the competitive environment in creates. We have some assets and would be able to move them for quality when management feels the time is right, I 'spose.

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#57 Clyde Frog
September 21 2011, 11:30AM
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I loved the first couple games, but I think I am going to wait for the actual season before I can support trading proven production for preseason success...

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#58 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 11:32AM
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@Next up, is Connor McJesus.

Ha, I think 89 is just fine to send his laundry out. He is still the most productive centre on the team offensively, and RNH isnt guaranteed a spot.

Now look at at Horcoff, Belanger, and Lander. All three are duplicating each other's skills. No one has proven to duplicate what Gagner is capable of doing. But the Oilers have 4 centres to fill out the 2 spots on the bottom 6 in Horc, Belanger, Brule, and Lander. 3 of them are touted as being solid two-way performers, one is a rookie who doesnt have to pass waivers, and one is Brule.

I think we can all assume that organizationally that Brule is on the outs after already being traded. Horcoff is locked down on the Oilers despite his slipping numbers and constant stream of injuries because of his contract, and Belanger JUST signed his deal here. Looking at the centres it MIGHT make sense to move Gagner, but only if you forget that he is the best of the bunch offensively (which last time I checked was part of the job description for top 6 players).

I'd wager that the guys on the outs are Brule, Omark, and probably Gagner. However, based on how much they've invested in Gagner I dont think moving him out is high on their wish list, especially if the return isnt justifiable.

Hemsky's contract situation is also a big wild card in all of this discussion. It could be a roster game-changer if he gets moved.

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#59 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 11:36AM
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@Fuzzy muppet

Omark and Paajarvi have yet to prove that they can produce offense like Gagner can, and Hemsky is a UFA at year's end. If 83 gets moved then its a no brainer for me to push Gagner to the wing, but even if he doesnt I'd rather have Gagner than Omark.

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#60 gord962
September 21 2011, 11:44AM
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@Archaeologuy

I would disagree. Both are lacking defensive skills, size, grit and speed, however Omark has better vision and can control the puck on the wall. When's the last time Gagner come out of a scrum with the puck? Just remember that Omark was a rookie last year - let's give him a full season before we give Gagner the benefit of the doubt.

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#61 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 11:44AM
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I LOVE that in a few short months we went from whining about how thin we are down the middle to now being in a position to trade away the most productive center.

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#62 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 11:45AM
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gord962 wrote:

I would disagree. Both are lacking defensive skills, size, grit and speed, however Omark has better vision and can control the puck on the wall. When's the last time Gagner come out of a scrum with the puck? Just remember that Omark was a rookie last year - let's give him a full season before we give Gagner the benefit of the doubt.

Irrelavant.

All that matters is who can put up enough points to outscore the opposition.

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#63 David S
September 21 2011, 11:49AM
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Clyde Frog wrote:

I loved the first couple games, but I think I am going to wait for the actual season before I can support trading proven production for preseason success...

^ THIS.

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#64 David S
September 21 2011, 11:51AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I LOVE that in a few short months we went from whining about how thin we are down the middle to now being in a position to trade away the most productive center.

I'm going to vote for you in the next federal election.

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#65 Dman09
September 21 2011, 11:54AM
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Fuzzy muppet wrote:

At who's expense? Omark? Hemsky? Eberle? Hall? Smyth? Paarjarvi? He cant play bottom six so...one of gagner/hemsky is long gone before the seasons out

Well to start we don't know if Hemsky is going to want to resign here or ,if he gets injured again, the Oiler might not want to sign him. Second so far Omark hasn't proved to be a producer so unless he starts putting up more points this season I would take Gagner over him. Third I expect after this year Smyth's role, if he gets another contract in Edm, will start to take on a lesser role possibly third line.

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#66 positivebrontefan
September 21 2011, 11:54AM
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Upside...

I loved Hartikainen, he was a beast behind the net, at one point there was a larger Chicago d-man battling him for the puck and he just drove his shoulder into the middle of his chest and the guy exploded like a dropped glass of water. Took the puck and made a neat play to center it. I would love to see him play with Lander and have Eberle on the right to provide the finish.

Eberle looked great, I think he actually got the goal that Smyth got credit for, I don't foresee a sophmore slump here, he's to smart a player.

Tyrvainen looked good, Hordichuk did his thing, Ryan Smyth was, well Ryan Smyth, great to have him back.

Bunz looked solid as well as Dubnyk from what I could see.

YAY!!! Hockey's back!!!

On the downside...

Khabby...WTF...Lots of rust by the looks of it. Better polish up his game quick or I don't know what we can do with what he provided last night. Does not leave a good feeling knowing that he is still possibly our starter, if that's the case we will be finishing last again. Here's hoping Devan Dubnyk can continue to improve upon a decent perfomance last year, and there is no reason to think he won't.

Jason, is there any idea who will be playing tomorrow night against Van? Please tell me they will dress Smyth and Hopkins again, I will be at the game and hope to be one of those that give him a standing ovation...just for being Ryan frickin' Smyth!!!

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#67 fuzzy muppet
September 21 2011, 12:02PM
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@Dman09 @Archeloguy

The thing with Gagner is you have to factor in the fact that outside of Hemsky, he has the most VALUE to bring back a decent defenseman. That makes HIM more likely to be moved out than a guy like Omark.

No Way they move Paarjarvi so he doesn't count.

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#68 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 12:02PM
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David S wrote:

I'm going to vote for you in the next federal election.

Wise decision.

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#69 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 12:08PM
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fuzzy muppet wrote:

@Dman09 @Archeloguy

The thing with Gagner is you have to factor in the fact that outside of Hemsky, he has the most VALUE to bring back a decent defenseman. That makes HIM more likely to be moved out than a guy like Omark.

No Way they move Paarjarvi so he doesn't count.

I'm not convinced he has all that much value around the league. The thing is that it doesnt make a whole lot of sense to move out top 6 players to make room for 1 guy when the Hemsky situation has yet to be resolved.

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#70 TonyDanzaPervo
September 21 2011, 12:14PM
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Edmonton Oilers General Manager Steve Tambellini announced today the club has reduced its training camp roster by four players. The following were assigned to their respective junior clubs today:

Jeremie Blain (D) to Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL) Tyler Bunz (G) to Medicine Hat (WHL) Brandon Davidson (D) to Regina (WHL) David Musil (D) to Vancouver (WHL)

Sorry if posted previously; didn't see it anywhere.

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#71 ricky p
September 21 2011, 12:23PM
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I do like Gagner, I think he is going to be a role player somewhere one day in the NHL. However, just because he has been our most productive center over the past few years, doesn't count for much considering he helped lead us to two 30 place finishes. Not totally responsible for the cratering, but contributed. So just because we has been the best of a bad group of centermen, him included, doesn't mean he is unmovable

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#72 mayorpoop
September 21 2011, 12:24PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I LOVE that in a few short months we went from whining about how thin we are down the middle to now being in a position to trade away the most productive center.

before you yell from the rafters professing your rightness remember this...

in a few short months we obtained the 1st overall pick who is a center.

in a few short months we obtained another center who will win faceoffs.

in a few short months we had, argueably, our best center recover from injuries, hopefully.

in a few short months we also drafted a quality 3rd line center.

in a few short months another center also recovered from injury and has the potential to bounce back from issues we don't know.

we have centers, lots of them. not too many there is a difference. sure gagner had the best point totals at center but not overall.

yeah it is premature to assume greatness out of the others but not outrageous to discuss this option now or later.

also would you take weber for gagner+....remember he is our most productive center.

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#73 Petr's Jofa
September 21 2011, 12:31PM
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gord962 wrote:

I would disagree. Both are lacking defensive skills, size, grit and speed, however Omark has better vision and can control the puck on the wall. When's the last time Gagner come out of a scrum with the puck? Just remember that Omark was a rookie last year - let's give him a full season before we give Gagner the benefit of the doubt.

It may have been Omark's rookie season, but he is two years older than Ganger.

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#74 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 12:32PM
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@mayorpoop

Weber isnt available for Gagner+ unless its Gagner + Eberle and a 1st.

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#75 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 12:32PM
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mayorpoop wrote:

before you yell from the rafters professing your rightness remember this...

in a few short months we obtained the 1st overall pick who is a center.

in a few short months we obtained another center who will win faceoffs.

in a few short months we had, argueably, our best center recover from injuries, hopefully.

in a few short months we also drafted a quality 3rd line center.

in a few short months another center also recovered from injury and has the potential to bounce back from issues we don't know.

we have centers, lots of them. not too many there is a difference. sure gagner had the best point totals at center but not overall.

yeah it is premature to assume greatness out of the others but not outrageous to discuss this option now or later.

also would you take weber for gagner+....remember he is our most productive center.

We added one proven bottom 6 guy (also traded away one) and a bunch of maybes... most of which are a few years away.

I'm not proclaiming I'm right, I'm proclaiming how funny it is about how much has apparantly changed ... when reality is not much has actually changed (yet)

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#76 mayorpoop
September 21 2011, 12:34PM
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@Archaeologuy

oh i know, and i'm not on the weber bandwagon. just using as an example.

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#77 mayorpoop
September 21 2011, 12:37PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

before we even did anyone this stuff in the past few months we were talking about this. nothing has changed.

if gagner is an asset then manage that asset properly. keep or trade whatever the case but at least discuss it.

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#78 a lg dubl dubl
September 21 2011, 12:37PM
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I still wouldn't mind if ST traded this yrs 1st round pick along with Brule to get a top 2 dman, if he is serious about making the playoffs this yr then that pick would b no better than 15th anyway, and it would b craziness at its best if he got rid of Hemsky and or Gagner right now the team still needs thier points and leadership, getting rid of those 2 to make room for rookies will turn the Oilers into the Islanders in no time.

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#79 mayorpoop
September 21 2011, 12:38PM
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sorry still can't edit wanye won't fix my problem, yet.

meant to say any of not anyone.

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#80 Tyler
September 21 2011, 12:43PM
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I wonder what the trade is value for the package of Hemmer + Jones + Hamilton (he's > Pitlick in my eyes with higher trade value)?

What D can we snag for that?

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#81 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
September 21 2011, 12:45PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

I LOVE that in a few short months we went from whining about how thin we are down the middle to now being in a position to trade away the most productive center.

He was the most productive center on a 30th place hockey club. The newbs on this team will push him down the depth chart shortly i'm sure. The Oilers better move him fast, i see Gagner playing fewer than 40 games this season. Maybe it's time Obbie and Archie kept the appointment for that Cerebral cleansing they so desperately need.

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#82 gord962
September 21 2011, 12:50PM
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Petr's Jofa wrote:

It may have been Omark's rookie season, but he is two years older than Ganger.

It was still Omark's first year in North America and it was his first 51 games in the NHL. It seems obvious that he will be better this year than he was last year since he now knows what is expected and what he needs to work on to stick in the NHL. Can we say the same for Gagner?

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#83 FastOil
September 21 2011, 12:53PM
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"Paajarvi told me that Lander hates losing more than anyone he's ever played with"

That is music to my ears. It seems to be the common denominator among really good NHL players, and guys that play well when the pressure is on.

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#84 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 12:56PM
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mayorpoop wrote:

before we even did anyone this stuff in the past few months we were talking about this. nothing has changed.

if gagner is an asset then manage that asset properly. keep or trade whatever the case but at least discuss it.

Hey I'm always up for moving anyone if the deal is right ... including Hall.

What's laughable is that he's now expendable because Lander "looked good" in a rookie tourney and intersquad game.

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#85 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 12:57PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

He was the most productive center on a 30th place hockey club. The newbs on this team will push him down the depth chart shortly i'm sure. The Oilers better move him fast, i see Gagner playing fewer than 40 games this season. Maybe it's time Obbie and Archie kept the appointment for that Cerebral cleansing they so desperately need.

And Hall was the most productive LW on a 30th place club.

See how weak your position is?

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#86 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 12:57PM
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@gord962

It's not obvious at all that Omark will get better. No one should assume that. He's turning 25 this year and has been playing pro for years. He's entering the prime of his production years already.

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#87 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 12:58PM
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gord962 wrote:

It was still Omark's first year in North America and it was his first 51 games in the NHL. It seems obvious that he will be better this year than he was last year since he now knows what is expected and what he needs to work on to stick in the NHL. Can we say the same for Gagner?

Hardly, a quick look at all the rookies/young players that didn't progress should tell us that.

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#88 mayorpoop
September 21 2011, 01:00PM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

fair enough.

he is as expendable today as he was 3 months ago to me...calender days may have changed our needs haven't.

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#89 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 01:01PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

He was the most productive center on a 30th place hockey club. The newbs on this team will push him down the depth chart shortly i'm sure. The Oilers better move him fast, i see Gagner playing fewer than 40 games this season. Maybe it's time Obbie and Archie kept the appointment for that Cerebral cleansing they so desperately need.

What kind of backwards thinking is that? Rebuild by flushing the talented young players BEFORE flushing the aging vets and less talented players?

How is Gagner the first being replaced?

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#90 Dan the Man
September 21 2011, 01:02PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

It's not obvious at all that Omark will get better. No one should assume that. He's turning 25 this year and has been playing pro for years. He's entering the prime of his production years already.

~Arch, didn't you know that every player improves in their sophomore season? ~

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#91 gord962
September 21 2011, 01:02PM
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And 4 years of stagnant production for Gagner tells me he is stuck at sub 50 points.

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#92 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 01:11PM
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gord962 wrote:

And 4 years of stagnant production for Gagner tells me he is stuck at sub 50 points.

~Yes, the freak injury that ended Gagner's season had nothing to do with him remaining in the low 40's for points.~

And on a side note, 1 year of a career high 40 points earned JVR a 4+ million dollar multi year contract. So I guess Gagner is grossly underpaid.

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#93 Dan the Man
September 21 2011, 01:11PM
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gord962 wrote:

And 4 years of stagnant production for Gagner tells me he is stuck at sub 50 points.

Because most players peak at 21?

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#94 Archaeologuy
September 21 2011, 01:13PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

~Arch, didn't you know that every player improves in their sophomore season? ~

Yeah, I think Tyler Myers told me that once.

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#95 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
September 21 2011, 01:14PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

And Hall was the most productive LW on a 30th place club.

See how weak your position is?

No, not buying it, apples and oranges, there's a big difference between a player going into his 5th season vs 4 entering his second.

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September 21 2011, 01:16PM
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gord962 wrote:

And 4 years of stagnant production for Gagner tells me he is stuck at sub 50 points.

Which is good 2nd line production.

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#97 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
September 21 2011, 01:18PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

What kind of backwards thinking is that? Rebuild by flushing the talented young players BEFORE flushing the aging vets and less talented players?

How is Gagner the first being replaced?

Because he's the weakest link?

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#98 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 01:19PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

No, not buying it, apples and oranges, there's a big difference between a player going into his 5th season vs 4 entering his second.

Hey, don't buy it if you don't want to. You're trying to pin team peformance on individual players.... that's weak.

Were likely a bottom 5 team this year as well... all of a sudden your golden children have a 30 and a 27 on their resumes as well.

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#99 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
September 21 2011, 01:20PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Because he's the weakest link?

Only team in the leauge where one of the top scorers is the weakest link.

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#100 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
September 21 2011, 01:24PM
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mayorpoop wrote:

sorry still can't edit wanye won't fix my problem, yet.

meant to say any of not anyone.

i may be far from the smrtest guy on the interwebs, but dont you just need to register and login to be able to edit?

**puts tinfoil hat back on and tries to finish mammoth block of cheese**

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