LUONGO TO THE OILERS?

Jason Gregor
October 23 2012 04:07PM

Would Roberto Luongo play for the Oilers? Would the Oilers trade for him? Would you want him between the pipes whenver this ridiculous lockout ends?

Canucks beat reporter Jason Botchford tweeted a few days ago that the Oilers are one of three or four teams in the mix. Before you jump off the deep end and suggest this is bunk, keep in mind Botchford was the guy who had Shane Doan down to two teams, Vancouver and Phoenix, and after Doan signed in Phoenix he admitted that the Canucks were #2 on his list.

The question is should the Oilers trade for him?

Luongo has ten years left on his deal at a $5,333,333 cap hit. He most likely will not play the final three years of his deal which totals $3.6 million. So the Oilers would have him for seven, maybe eight years.

Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle and Luongo would equate to $17.33 million of the cap next year. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will most likely be in the same pay scale as Eberle in Hall in 2014/2015.

For argument sakes in three years it might be feasible to see Hall, Eberle, RNH, Luongo and Yakupov totalling around $28-30 million in cap space. The salary cap could be anywhere from $60-80 million at that point. The Oilers will need to have at least one $5 million D-man, if they plan to be competitive so that puts them around $33-$35 million.

For some, the bigger question might be can Luongo play?

I say he can.

In 727 games he has 339 wins, a .919 SV% and 2.52 GAA. In the playoffs he's posted a .916SV% and 2.53 GAA.

Without a doubt he is a top-ten goalie in the league, and while some feel his play in the Stanley Cup finals proved he's mentally fragile I think that might be tad misleading.

Would the Oilers be better served to deal for Luongo or see if Devan Dubnyk can develop into a proven starter? Luongo has proven he can do it, and while Dubnyk has done it for short stints he hasn't done it for an entire NHL season. The Oilers would be better right away, but the tough question is whether they'd be better long-term?

WIll Dubnyk continue to develop, and is he ready to start 55-60 games? I find trying to project a goalie's future is much more difficult than a D-man or forward, and that is the challenge they face, if they even have any interest in Luongo.

I'd say thanks, but no thanks because I believe the Oilers are still three or four years away from being a consistent contender, and when they reach that level they will need a goalie who isn't 36 years of age.

Would you want the Oilers to go after Luongo?

**If it did ever happen, which I think is slim, if any Oiler fans chanted LOUUUUUUU on a routine shot they should be banned from Rexall. You can do it on a great save, but not routine ones.**

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#1 Archaeologuy
October 23 2012, 04:13PM
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Horcoff and Omark. If you dont want them then you can keep Luongo. Throw in a 1st rounder and I'll talk about giving up Dillon Simpson or Kristians Pelss too.

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#2 Dave "Killer" Carlson
October 23 2012, 04:15PM
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Please no! I don't think I could stand the cries of "LUUUUUU" during every Oilers game. It's bad enough as it is when they play the Canucks.

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#3 slats432
October 23 2012, 04:15PM
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Not just no. Hell no.

Hockey success is important, but liking the players on your team (Hello Ben Eager....please leave) is just as important.

Unless Bobby Lu drops his present media persona and starts talking like Strombone then it is a definite no go.

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#4 Chaz
October 23 2012, 04:17PM
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No way. The guys seems too flaky for me...even by goalie standards. Plus the constant Looooouuuu and Nuuuuuge chants would get way too old way too quick. I would suggest that recent history here and league-wide shows that giving goalies long expensive contracts is a bad idea....

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#5 K
October 23 2012, 04:18PM
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No. Don't want the contract or his personality. I want a team to grow together & Luongo doesn't fit the mold of players we have now. No to Luongo.

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#6 Truth
October 23 2012, 04:27PM
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Only way I would do it is if the new CBA (if there ever is one) allows for the trading of cap space. Luongo and $2M/year cap space for Omark. Not a chance in hell Vancouver would do that, but there's not a chance in hell I would be touching that contract otherwise.

I find it laughable that Vancouver wants a big name prospect in return for Luongo. He is unwanted goods that is 98% to be traded somewhere. That somewhere must be owned or managed by someone dumb enough to take that contract.

I'm going to enjoy it when Vancouver loses him on re-entry waivers and pays for half his contract somewhere. On second thought, that is the only other way I would be acceptable with the Oilers acquiring him.

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#7 Neilio
October 23 2012, 04:27PM
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Nooooooooooooooooooo! No no no no no no nyet no no no no no no no no no no. Awwww heellll nawww!

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#8 Mantastic
October 23 2012, 04:30PM
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no, too expensive really, for the last couple seasons he's been a slightly above average goaltender. cap space is not a luxury we'll have when we are competing for the cup.

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#9 Byron
October 23 2012, 04:34PM
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Would Vancouver trade Luongo to a division rival?

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#10 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
October 23 2012, 04:35PM
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Even the Oilers themselves seem to be a little leary of letting Dubnyk carry the ball during the season. Making that short list speaks volumes about the confidence the Oilers have in Dubey.

Edmonton may be on the Canucks short list of possible destinations, but i don't think Edmonton is on Luongos short list.

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#11 RexLibris
October 23 2012, 04:38PM
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Only if we can flip him to Toronto for Morgan Reilly and a 1st round pick in 2013.

No?

Then I think I'd like to stick with Dubnyk and wait for Roy and Bunz to develop.

Thanks Gillis, but I've already got a full set of encyclopeadias.

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#12 mayorpoop
October 23 2012, 04:40PM
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yes.

i like to hate him because he plays for the canucks. in reality i'd be happy if he was our goalie.

that being said the term is atrocious. these guys don't come available all the time and when they do, due dilligence says you better ask some questions.

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#13 vetinari
October 23 2012, 04:42PM
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Luongo's contract is too long; he'll be untradeable in three to five years; and he's in the wrong age bracket to grow with the kids. So, no.

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#14 Puritania
October 23 2012, 04:47PM
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If we did happen to acquire Luongo, above anything else, I would hope to Odin himself that our fans would not scream "Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" everytime the puck hits him.

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#15 Ken
October 23 2012, 04:48PM
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Luongo's a great goalie - He proved he's one of the best when he won in THE Gold metal Olympic game!

Vancouver are wusses for getting rid of the best goalie they ever will have.

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#16 The Soup Fascist
October 23 2012, 04:51PM
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RexLibris wrote:

Only if we can flip him to Toronto for Morgan Reilly and a 1st round pick in 2013.

No?

Then I think I'd like to stick with Dubnyk and wait for Roy and Bunz to develop.

Thanks Gillis, but I've already got a full set of encyclopeadias.

Because encyclopedias are overpriced, easily replaced by something better and cheaper and are obsolete very quickly.

I see what you did there. Props.

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#17 They're $hittie
October 23 2012, 04:53PM
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@Dave "Killer" Carlson

oilers fans would never LUUUUU. I would give up my season tickets if it started.

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#18 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
October 23 2012, 04:58PM
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We already have "the NUUUUUUGE" is there really room on this town for both Nuge and Bobby LOOOOOOO?

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#19 Chris
October 23 2012, 05:00PM
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The last thing this team needs is an albatross contract. Honestly, I think I'd just hang up on Gillis if he called, cause I can't think of any trade... Even if I try to think up a funny trade that would be offensive to Vancouver, its still not even worth it.

Straight up for Horcoff isn't even worth it.

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#20 RyanCoke
October 23 2012, 05:03PM
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"NOOOOOOO!!!" in darth vader voice

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#21 Will
October 23 2012, 05:10PM
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Though I agree Luongo would make us better right away, after reading many articles posted here, it seems just getting rid of Habby makes us better right away. If Dubnyk can play like he did after the allstar break, and play that way on a semi consistent basis, he is the future of our team. What's better is if we can find someone to back him up.

Dubnyk had 47 starts last year and finished above 500? I don't see it being a stretch to give him 10-13 more starts and expect ten more wins out of him, especially given our defense is upgraded with the addition of Schultz.

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#22 KenL
October 23 2012, 05:14PM
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"NOOOOOO!" in Captain Kirk voice when he bellowed "KHANNNN" to the heavens.

After the Rick Diepetro contract, Mike Gillis must had been hopped up on something to sign this stupid contract. Never, ever sign a goalie to more than 4 years. That's the lesson every GM should had taken from the Islanders.

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#23 @pistolpetestar
October 23 2012, 05:18PM
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The contract scares me a little but he's a proven upgrade over what we have (though I've been pulling for Dubnyk ever since we had our pair of DD's) so I would be for it if we didn't give up too much. Then we change his name from Bobby Lou to Lou-Juan-Go and pretend he's latin. No more Loooooooo chants. Problem solved.

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#24 Wax Man Riley
October 23 2012, 05:20PM
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Ken wrote:

Luongo's a great goalie - He proved he's one of the best when he won in THE Gold metal Olympic game!

Vancouver are wusses for getting rid of the best goalie they ever will have.

Luongo was definitely in net during the gold medal win, but he definitely did not win the gold medal for Canada. It could have been Brodeur or Price or any goalie.

Luongo just happened to be in net.

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#25 ColeRoll
October 23 2012, 05:24PM
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If that provision in the CBA about the team signing the contract will have the cap hit levied against them in the event the player retires/goes to Europe, I would definitely do this (depending on the price, of course). Luongo is still an elite goalie. You can say not in the playoffs but I don't really buy into that sort of stuff. He had some bad games at inopportune times (and yes, I realize it was more than a couple and at the absolute worst of times), but he would make our team better, and costs less than $2MM more than Dubnyk.

Send them Dubnyk, two of Reider/Gernat/Omark/Teubert/Hartikainen/Fedun/Lander and Eager. I'd gladly pay that price and we'd take on about a quarter of a million in cap. Not at all unreasonable. I would toss in a Sutton/Peckham/Potter as well if necessary. Goalies of Luongo's calibre do not grown on trees. And with no risk of paying him after he's retired, the contract is pretty reasonable as well.

I have no idea if Gillis would go for something like that, he'd probably want a position player rather than Dubnyk, but we could always flip Dubby elsewhere to replace whoever would be lost if that was the issue. I think if he's willing to come here and can be had without giving up any overly important pieces (Paajarvi, Gagner etc..) Tambellini needs to at least look into it.

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#26 Smokey
October 23 2012, 05:25PM
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K wrote:

No. Don't want the contract or his personality. I want a team to grow together & Luongo doesn't fit the mold of players we have now. No to Luongo.

I don't think there is anything wrong in particular with Bobby Lou personality. He is not a cancer in the locker-room. The contacts the problem. I'd be fine with the trade for a B rated prospect and Horcoff. Would not do it for anything else. If Tamby pays more he's a fool.

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#27 Smokey
October 23 2012, 05:28PM
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ColeRoll wrote:

If that provision in the CBA about the team signing the contract will have the cap hit levied against them in the event the player retires/goes to Europe, I would definitely do this (depending on the price, of course). Luongo is still an elite goalie. You can say not in the playoffs but I don't really buy into that sort of stuff. He had some bad games at inopportune times (and yes, I realize it was more than a couple and at the absolute worst of times), but he would make our team better, and costs less than $2MM more than Dubnyk.

Send them Dubnyk, two of Reider/Gernat/Omark/Teubert/Hartikainen/Fedun/Lander and Eager. I'd gladly pay that price and we'd take on about a quarter of a million in cap. Not at all unreasonable. I would toss in a Sutton/Peckham/Potter as well if necessary. Goalies of Luongo's calibre do not grown on trees. And with no risk of paying him after he's retired, the contract is pretty reasonable as well.

I have no idea if Gillis would go for something like that, he'd probably want a position player rather than Dubnyk, but we could always flip Dubby elsewhere to replace whoever would be lost if that was the issue. I think if he's willing to come here and can be had without giving up any overly important pieces (Paajarvi, Gagner etc..) Tambellini needs to at least look into it.

No way on your deal. They need to take Horcoff and remove Dubby, Gernat, Reider, Harti and Lander from your list of who you will trade. Yikes

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#28 Rama Lama
October 23 2012, 05:29PM
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Maybe if he was in the start of his career.......he is too old to jell with the young guys.

No more throw aways or someone else's problems........players with a thin skin do not work long term.

Send him to Florida where he belongs.

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#29 Chris
October 23 2012, 05:41PM
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ColeRoll wrote:

If that provision in the CBA about the team signing the contract will have the cap hit levied against them in the event the player retires/goes to Europe, I would definitely do this (depending on the price, of course). Luongo is still an elite goalie. You can say not in the playoffs but I don't really buy into that sort of stuff. He had some bad games at inopportune times (and yes, I realize it was more than a couple and at the absolute worst of times), but he would make our team better, and costs less than $2MM more than Dubnyk.

Send them Dubnyk, two of Reider/Gernat/Omark/Teubert/Hartikainen/Fedun/Lander and Eager. I'd gladly pay that price and we'd take on about a quarter of a million in cap. Not at all unreasonable. I would toss in a Sutton/Peckham/Potter as well if necessary. Goalies of Luongo's calibre do not grown on trees. And with no risk of paying him after he's retired, the contract is pretty reasonable as well.

I have no idea if Gillis would go for something like that, he'd probably want a position player rather than Dubnyk, but we could always flip Dubby elsewhere to replace whoever would be lost if that was the issue. I think if he's willing to come here and can be had without giving up any overly important pieces (Paajarvi, Gagner etc..) Tambellini needs to at least look into it.

wow, I'm glad you aren't GM.

Dubnyk + Lander + Harti and maybe throw in Peckham...?

Wow... Just wow.... You must be drinking the Vancouver kool-aide

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#30 wyseguy
October 23 2012, 05:44PM
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Not interested. He can go on streaks of greatness, then go on a streak of sickness. Never know what you're gonna get. That said, the Vancouver faithful have been brutal to him. To reiterate what others have said, he'll be on the down hill side of his career when Oil are mighty again.

I did see an interview a couple of years back where Luongo was asked if he grew up a Habs fan. He said nope, I grew up an Oilers fan. If I remember right, he was a big Fuhr fan and got his autograph during the interview.

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#31 wyseguy
October 23 2012, 05:47PM
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Suckiness, not sickness. Damn you auto correct

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#32 Puritania
October 23 2012, 05:49PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

We already have "the NUUUUUUGE" is there really room on this town for both Nuge and Bobby LOOOOOOO?

That's why I fret the notion of "Luuuu" getting traction. "Nuuuuuuge" is pretty close, It's not that big of a jump to get there.

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#33 Tarus
October 23 2012, 06:00PM
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This is the same guy that died on the "Gaborik has purchased a house in Vancouver and will be a Canuck" hill from a couple of years back.

Also part of the tweet was the insinuation that Eberle would be going the other way, which would be a massive mistake by the Oilers, and not one I see the them making. You simply don't give up a decade of a young star player for an aging goaltender(applies to any of the 4), no matter how elite that goaltender might have been at one time. Even if you got 2 or 3 elite seasons out of him(unlikely), it still wouldn't mitigate that kind of loss, or make up for declining years of his career that would make up the bulk of his time on that terrible contact.

If they want our trash and b level prospects - have at it, but that's not going to happen. Realisticly it's franchise and a player moving in opposite directions, and he really isn't a good fit for the team, especially not for the assets that would be required to obtain him.

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#34 michael
October 23 2012, 06:34PM
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Only if we can flip him to Toronto for Morgan Reilly and a 1st round pick in 2013.

No?

Then I think I'd like to stick with Dubnyk and wait for Roy and Bunz to develop.

Thanks Gillis, but I've already got a full set of encyclopeadias.

I'd buy that for a dollar but who in will the assets that we give up to get Lou?

Lou is poison to Vancouver right now. They need a taste in return for him. keeping him is untenable right now. Edmonton? The flip would be the right way to go.But to Toronto? Lou to Columbus for their 2013 first pick and a salary dump.

I want to be in on the Curtis Lazar sweepstakes. Perfect complimentary center for the Oilers moving forward. He'd make the perfect 2cd line center.

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#35 The Real Scuba Steve
October 23 2012, 06:35PM
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Why not?

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#36 Coaliethegoalie
October 23 2012, 06:42PM
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The prospect of bringing in Luongo is no different from how it looked when Khabby was brought in- only we now have the wisdom of experience to see how it has played out with him... an aging elite goalie. A "has been". Sure he COULD have games like he once played, but how many games did we suffer through as they time after time played Khabby when we all just desperately wanted to see either of the DD's play? Letting Dubnyk grow with this core and blossom into a bona-fide #1 is the way to go. Bring in the aging "has been" on a waiver or trade deadline throw away to back him (Dubnyk) up and stop wasting time looking for other teams' former starters. We have a starter. Dubey! Dubey! Dubey!

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#37 Archaeologuy
October 23 2012, 06:43PM
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@Tarus

Eberle going the other way? You've got to huff a lot of glue before that deal starts looking good.

*hhhhhuuuuuuuuuffffffffffffffffffffffffffff*

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#38 a lg dubl dubl
October 23 2012, 06:43PM
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It would be uber cool if the Oil did get Lou and the year after win the cup, that sure would pi$$ off the Canucks fans and just for that to happen Id be all for the trade.

If Gillis want 1 of the young guns, walk no scratch that RUN FAR AWAY from that deal.

Can ST rework his contract somehow so its not such a ginormous length?

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#39 a lg dubl dubl
October 23 2012, 06:45PM
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I still want to see how DD can do as a #1 over the next couple years, in all honesty.

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#40 Ryan2
October 23 2012, 06:55PM
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Why would the Oilers want to pursue him in the first place? Luongo is still a decent tender, but at that cap hit and age it is not worth it unless it means offloading the contracts of Kahbi and Horcoff the other way.

Besides, Gillis is desperate to make a deal so why offer him anything much? I would rather see the Nucks stuck with both him and Schneider for another season or two - the dressing dynamic would be fun to watch from a distance. LOL

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#41 Spydyr
October 23 2012, 07:01PM
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Ken wrote:

Luongo's a great goalie - He proved he's one of the best when he won in THE Gold metal Olympic game!

Vancouver are wusses for getting rid of the best goalie they ever will have.

If anything he almost cost Canada the gold medal game.

Most over rated goalie in the NHL.

Needs his tires pumped in the Final.

First the lock out then the arena crap now this.

Please hockey gods save us.

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#42 vetinari
October 23 2012, 07:04PM
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Combine Lou with Nuge and we could have:

LLLLLOOOOOUUUUUUGGGGEEEEEEEE!

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#43 westcoastoil
October 23 2012, 07:10PM
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Live in Van - seen lots of LOUUUUU. It would be a bad deal - he's a stud...up until xmas. If he's that good why is Gillis going with Schneider.

Was he good in the gold medal game sure, but he nearly blew the game too. Throughout the Olympics it looked like the team was winning in spite of their goalie.

Been at least 5 playoff series since I can recall him outplaying the other goalie. And his contract is an albatross to boot

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#44 bmac
October 23 2012, 07:30PM
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I've dedicated way too much of my being into despising Luongo to have to support him as our starting goalie.

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#45 Jonathan Willis
October 23 2012, 07:54PM
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It really depends on cost.

Right now, Roberto Luongo is a better goalie than any the Oilers have (with all due respect to Devan Dubnyk). The NHL's provision that his cap hit reverts back to Vancouver if he retires minimizes the risk.

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#46 ColeRoll
October 23 2012, 08:01PM
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Chris wrote:

wow, I'm glad you aren't GM.

Dubnyk + Lander + Harti and maybe throw in Peckham...?

Wow... Just wow.... You must be drinking the Vancouver kool-aide

Dubnyk is an unproven goalie with modest promise. You've gotta have some pretty big homer bias if you think he'll be anything beyond a capable #1. Anyways, if you're getting Luongo there's really no point in keeping him.

Lander is a prospect on his way to suspect. Got destroyed in the NHL and he is seriously lacking offense at the AHL level, even for a guy destined to be a checker if he ever makes it. Leadership and character only go so far, the kid absolutely needs to get better to have a hope of a career as anything more than a 4th liner.

Hartikainen I'm not really sure I'd want to deal, added him at the last minute just to provide more options.

Peckham was absolutely brutal last year, and where exactly does he fit on our roster? Smid, Petry, Schultz x2, Whitney, Sutton and Potter. The first 5 are far and away better than Theo, Sutton is substantially better albeit this is the last year on his deal, and I prefer Potter as he can at least move the puck out of his own zone, but they're pretty similarly effective IMO.

If you think Lander/Hartikainen/Peckham are so valuable, I'd imagine you must also think highly of Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat and Musil, no? There's a logjam on D. Somebody needs to go this year, and in the next 3 there's going to be massive turnover. Is giving up Peckham such a huge deal? We're talking about essentially spare parts for a goaltender who probably makes us a playoff team right now.

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#47 oilerman53
October 23 2012, 08:13PM
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Luongo's performance in both the cup finals and olympics are indicative of the kind of goalie he is. He squandered the lead with less then 20 seconds left in the gold medal game and if it weren't for his high powered team he was on the verge of collapse. In the cup finals with the Bruins he showed he doesn't have what it takes to bring it home when need be. I would stay far away from him unless the Canucks are willing to take back a crappy contract in return.

I think were better off developing Bunz and Roy and giving Dubnyk some serious playing time this year and hoping he runs with it. Luongo and his 334 year multibillion dollar contract can go to Florida where there aren't any expectations.

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#48 Bryan in SK
October 23 2012, 08:50PM
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No thanks. I feel like winning a Cup this decade, please. (As if the Canuckleheads would ever trade him to us anyway.)

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#49 Dan the Man
October 23 2012, 09:18PM
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For the love of god, just say no.

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#50 Senrik Hedin
October 23 2012, 09:43PM
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no way vancouver trades him to edmonton. more importantly, no way luongo waives his no trade clause to go to edmonton.

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