TELEGRAPHING WHAT'S NEXT

Robin Brownlee
October 30 2012 07:46PM

Everybody paying attention knows I keep score and, because of that quirk, they know I hold Bob Stauffer in high regard when it comes to his ability to telegraph what's going to happen with the Edmonton Oilers.

Truth be told, Stauffer should probably be sending me a cheque, or at least a gift certificate, for all the times I've pumped his tires around here, going on and on like a fartcatcher about his ability to call the shots as he laps the rest of the media pack in Edmonton.

Bombastic Bob has a buzz going again with his latest hint/tidbit/suggestion foreshadowing the Oilers could have a trade in the works when the lockout is over, an item that Jonathan Willis wrote about today.

Stauffer had agent Brian Lawton on Oilers Now on 630 CHED today. If you want the full podcast of the segment, you kind find it here. It's probably worth a listen to get the complete context of the interview (not to mention what Lawton actually said).

POISED TO MAKE A DEAL?

Lawton's worked both sides of the agent/management street in the NHL, and as far as I know he's not being paid by Daryl Katz. So, those who believe everything Stauffer says is tainted by the fact he's on the Oilers payroll -- he's certainly towed the company line on the arena debate but there's no denying his track record on player moves -- might put more weight in Lawton's words.

That said, it wasn't Lawton's answers -- even though they seem to support Stauffer's contention GM Steve Tambellini is now in a situation after six years out of the playoffs to make a trade from a position of strength – that caught my ear, it was one of Stauffer's questions.

Essentially, might all that young talent put Tambellini in the position to acquire needed pieces by way of a trade? Perhaps a proven defenseman or a physical forward who can play in coach Ralph Krueger's top nine? I think so.

The real tell for me, at least if I've come to read Stauffer right over the years, was how he made specific mention of players with no-movement clauses and how they might now consider Edmonton a destination they'd approve. It was about as subtle as a slap in the mouth.

THE CALLED SHOT

"There's one more group of players out there in my mind that maybe starts considering Edmonton that always kind of dismissed them before – that's guys with no movement clauses that may be a casualty of a new CBA," Stauffer suggested to Lawton.

"I'm wondering if you think the landscape has changed enough that those players who would once be completely, "I'm not going to Edmonton. What do you mean you can facilitate a trade with Edmonton?"

"I'm wondering if players like that now, if you think, might sit there and go, "You know, those guys could turn it around pretty quickly if they got the right couple of pieces in place."

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that Stauffer already had the answer when he asked Lawton the question today. So, a trade involving a noteworthy player with a no-movement clause, then? Duly noted.

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#1 Pilgor09
October 30 2012, 07:52PM
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Briere is my guess.

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#2 thetikk
October 30 2012, 07:53PM
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Robin, how on earth is that a called shot? You barely picked out a stick.

I'm going with Brendan Morrow.

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#3 Pilgor09
October 30 2012, 07:54PM
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Or Brian Campbell.

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#4 Pajamah
October 30 2012, 07:55PM
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First, If Stauffers Talking, I'm listening

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#5 Pajamah
October 30 2012, 07:56PM
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Secondly, dammit

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#6 Mark
October 30 2012, 07:59PM
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Thanks for the article Robin, I was curious if you had a couple of guesses as to who he might be talking about trade wise? Thanks :)

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#7 Pajamah
October 30 2012, 07:59PM
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Thirdly......

To Min : Ales Hemsky Philly 2nd rounder

To Philly: Cal Clusterf*ck Magnus Paajarvi

To Edmonton: Chris Pronger Dany Heatley

~Obviously~

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#8 Ken
October 30 2012, 08:03PM
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I would bet Luongo wants to come to Edmonton and make Vancouver eat skate.

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#9 David Staples
October 30 2012, 08:03PM
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Why would Bob get this information wrong?

He works for the Katz Group and gets information directly from Oilers managers, no?

Of course he will get things right and have more information than others.

P.S. I wonder what this "casualty of the new CBA means"?

Does that mean the team will not want this player? Or that these no-movement clauses will be casualty of the new CBA? Not clear to me.

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#10 DSF
October 30 2012, 08:14PM
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Pilgor09 wrote:

Or Brian Campbell.

Florida won't be trading Campbell anytime soon.

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#11 Jesse
October 30 2012, 08:17PM
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Realistically, who could he be talking about other than Luongo? I can't think of any other player that seems realistic.

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#12 andymaury
October 30 2012, 08:18PM
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Jumbo Joe

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#13 The Soup Fascist
October 30 2012, 08:22PM
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DSF wrote:

Florida won't be trading Campbell anytime soon.

Correct. The Lady Byng makes him an untouchable. You just can't replace soft $7 million dollar D-men.

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#14 RanfordMVP
October 30 2012, 08:22PM
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Please don't let it be Luongo. Bring back Peter Ing instead.

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#15 TeddyTurnbuckle
October 30 2012, 08:25PM
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Here is the deal with Bob. He travels with the team, big supporter of Katz, big supporter of the rebuild, pushes hard for the arena, talks respectfully of Oiler management even when he criticizes them and last but not least he works for the Oilers. In return he is privileged to inside info providing he keeps his mouth shut. Judging by his past predictions, management allows him to be the first to hint the story for his good deeds.

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#16 DSF
October 30 2012, 08:29PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Correct. The Lady Byng makes him an untouchable. You just can't replace soft $7 million dollar D-men.

Campbell scored 53 points last season.

That's 7 points more than the Oilers top 2 defensemen combined.

Florida has no cap issues so, unless the Oilers want to unload one of the young guns, it's not happening.

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#18 Mark
October 30 2012, 08:35PM
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Uh oh, lol, are you talking about Luongo? That is who I was afraid of.

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#19 LoDog
October 30 2012, 08:37PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Don't need a couple of guesses . . . if I was to make one, however, I might want to consider the guy Gregor wrote about the other day.

Well, Luongo does seem to meet all the criteria.

I'm not as against as some around here but would prefer any deal be for a D or top 6F.

As long as the price is right, I'm down.

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#20 The Soup Fascist
October 30 2012, 08:40PM
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DSF wrote:

Campbell scored 53 points last season.

That's 7 points more than the Oilers top 2 defensemen combined.

Florida has no cap issues so, unless the Oilers want to unload one of the young guns, it's not happening.

Oiler's defence was putrid. Campbell had a nice year. Just saying with his ticket and one dimensional game ... "Untouchable" he he aint.

You are correct though, his cap helps Florida spend to the floor. He is a good fit there as anywhere.

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#21 RyanCoke
October 30 2012, 09:09PM
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If it is lounging(auto correct seemed fitting) I wouldn't be 100% against it but it depends on who is going the other way. I dont want to lose any depth or big name prospects. I think luongo could be a great mentor to a young Dubnyk. Much better than the bulin wall. I just hope if the clause goes in that a retiring players original team pays the rest of the contract, then that means we screw over Vancouver in a few years too.

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#22 BlacqueJacque
October 30 2012, 09:29PM
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After Stauffer's shameless Katz-taint-licking and insulting of fans through the insinuation of pathetic threats to move the franchise, one would think you'd have more self-respect than to even mention Stauffer's name around here. Never mind praise it.

One would be wrong, clearly, but hope springs eternal.

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#23 Woogie63
October 30 2012, 09:50PM
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Or he is just a bored radio guy trying make the next hour more interesting...

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#24 B-Co
October 30 2012, 09:54PM
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Hate on the guy all you want, I know I have. But top ten goalies don't get moved while they are still young enough to play very often. This is one you have to consider.. even though it is Luuuuuu! (God help us if that chant follows him here..)

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#25 DSF
October 30 2012, 09:56PM
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Only deal that makes sense is Hemsky for Luongo.

The Port Moody Prince might have fun in Vancouver.

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#26 @NateInVegas
October 30 2012, 10:01PM
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What if the Oilers trade for Chris Pronger? WOW!

- Has the ultimate NMC towards Edmonton.

- Even at 38 he would seriously help the back-end.

- Buying him out after next year isn't too expensive. (Provided his $4.9 cap doesn't count)

- The Flyers aren't afraid of making trades.

I'd still be wowed if Edmonton could get P.K Subban or Ryan Getzlaf.

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#27 Ken
October 30 2012, 10:04PM
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I always said that we don't need great defense if the forwards score more than the other team. A proven Olympic Gold golie is more important now than defensemen.

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#28 teddydubbs
October 30 2012, 10:05PM
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Time will tell I suppose... I'm not buying a lot of what Stauffer is selling these days... In any case, Gregor was right, the timing to acquire a player like Luongo doesn't make sense for a team that is going to be a contender (likely) in 3-4 years when he is entering his late 30's.

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#29 striatic
October 30 2012, 10:07PM
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Jesse wrote:

Realistically, who could he be talking about other than Luongo? I can't think of any other player that seems realistic.

It sure sounded like they were talking about Luongo to me.

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#30 David S
October 30 2012, 10:15PM
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DSF wrote:

Only deal that makes sense is Hemsky for Luongo.

The Port Moody Prince might have fun in Vancouver.

Travis Dakin will drop by soon to tell us to shut our wh*re mouths, but I'd have to agree with this. Hemsky is out of the core group age-wise, yet still might be considered to have enough cache to make this deal work.

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#31 Wanyes bastard child
October 30 2012, 10:21PM
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Dang, I missed it :(

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#32 David S
October 30 2012, 10:28PM
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I have no problem with Bob.

Yes. He works for the Oilers. Big deal. Like any reasonable person I can't expect 100% objectivity, nor do I care because we're talking about a bloody hockey team here, not the latest cancer cure updates.

At the same time you'd be an idiot to not give him a listen if you're interested about Oilers news. Everybody around these parts knows the team is prone to floating interesting balloons through their trusted media people like John Mackinnon and Stauffer. If you listen carefully you can pick up quite a bit.

Bob knows his stuff, is well connected to the team and consistently has some of the best Oilers-related interviews you can hear. He's one of the few sports media guys around here outside of Brownlee and Gregor I'd really like to meet.

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#33 The Soup Fascist
October 30 2012, 10:29PM
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David S wrote:

Travis Dakin will drop by soon to tell us to shut our wh*re mouths, but I'd have to agree with this. Hemsky is out of the core group age-wise, yet still might be considered to have enough cache to make this deal work.

Still not buying the Canucks trade Luongo within the division. Other options for them with less risk.

Don't like moving Hemsky now, anyway. Pretty much letting him go at his lowest value. Gamble he starts the season - whenever we are graced by Fehr and Bettman's egos - on a roll. Then make a splashy trade.

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#34 teddydubbs
October 30 2012, 10:30PM
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Yandle, anyone? What happened to those rumblings from the draft?

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#35 David S
October 30 2012, 10:31PM
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This site could really use a gated 18+ NSFW section where we could read banned comments from the cutting room floor.

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#36 The Soup Fascist
October 30 2012, 10:36PM
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David S wrote:

This site could really use a gated 18+ NSFW section where we could read banned comments from the cutting room floor.

Crap. What did I miss? Turn my back for a minute to watch the WSOP ....

FML. Damn you Fehr / Bettman.

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#38 Orville
October 30 2012, 10:57PM
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David Staples wrote:

Why would Bob get this information wrong?

He works for the Katz Group and gets information directly from Oilers managers, no?

Of course he will get things right and have more information than others.

P.S. I wonder what this "casualty of the new CBA means"?

Does that mean the team will not want this player? Or that these no-movement clauses will be casualty of the new CBA? Not clear to me.

He mentions that the CBA would need to include a mechanism similar to the NBA where a buy out could occur at the end of the season without it counting against the cap so I think "cap casualty" means a player whose contract would be a problem going forward after the transition year (contracts with high cap hits that go on for 2+ more years). For the record I'm guessing Bouwmeester.

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#39 Ken
October 30 2012, 10:58PM
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Not sure what Luongo's trade is worth, afterall he is a huge contract and aging.

No one else seems to be calling on that contract so the Oilers should not give up much to anything to take that on.

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#40 teddydubbs
October 30 2012, 11:04PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Personally, I'm jaded from the arena debate, and we have no NHL right now, so I'm extra cranky, and don't have a whole lot of Oilers talk to keep my mind busy. There is no question that Stauffer is very well connected, and thanks to social media, I can read all his little tidbits of info out without having to listen to him. Best of both worlds for me.

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#41 Ales Hallsky
October 30 2012, 11:07PM
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SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!

*runs away in tears whilst shedding articles of clothing*

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David S wrote:

This site could really use a gated 18+ NSFW section where we could read banned comments from the cutting room floor.

Amen, brotha!

That's where I'd spend most of my time (there and the русский POLLZ of course), digging through dirt and scum...

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#43 Butters
October 30 2012, 11:15PM
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I think Bob left a lot of hints as to what will happen. Teams that are up against the cap will have to rid themselves of some salary. That is when the Oilers will swoop in. JMO

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#44 toprightcorner
October 30 2012, 11:15PM
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Reading between the lines I see two options.

1. Long term high price contract of a very good player but cant quite live up to what he makes. Guessing 4-5 years left in contract. Can buy out contract when cap issues come into play for Yaks long term contract.

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#45 toprightcorner
October 30 2012, 11:15PM
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Reading between the lines I see two options.

1. Long term high price contract of a very good player but cant quite live up to what he makes. Guessing 4-5 years left in contract. Can buy out contract when cap issues come into play for Yaks long term contract.

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#46 Wanyes bastard child
October 30 2012, 11:50PM
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Ales Hallsky wrote:

SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!

*runs away in tears whilst shedding articles of clothing*

Travis?

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#47 Giant Squid Overlord
October 30 2012, 11:54PM
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If the new CBA allowed teams to buyout contracts at the end of the year, why would we have to give up anything decent for a Luongo, Bouwmeester, or whoever? Teams shedding salary at year end is going to make for a larger free agent market, and if Edmonton is becoming a desirable team to sign with, why not wait? Free agents next summer can't expect to get similar money as this summer if the cap drops and player supply is higher.

If this is the case, and Vancouver HAS to buyout Lou to slide under a lower cap, if the Oil mgmt. is interested, they best not give up much!

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#48 DonDon
October 30 2012, 11:54PM
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Let's get some perspective here.

Being a cynic, and after the all the Oilers screw-ups, and the owner is a walking PR disaster, I have my doubts about the motive of Stauffer's latest news.

Besides the ineptitude of the hockey operations (missing the playoffs forever, unable to trade for a D, bad contracts, etc., etc, etc.), the downtown arena disaster and now the political contribution blow-up, perhaps Stauffer's vague prediction about a vague trade is to redirect criticism from you know who.

Robin, you may believe Stauffer is trustworthy, but I don't particularly agree. Why? Is he independent from the Oilers organization? No. There is an ethical issue here and I don't think he passes the smell test on the truth of Oilers information.

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#49 FMS
October 31 2012, 12:08AM
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I still think its Bouwmeester. The Flames are one of a few teams with a budget higher than our own. When you go through the teams who have more money committed than Edmonton, and search for players with NTC's we'd reasonably be interested in, its a pretty short list.

The comment "And it’ll make for some entertaining discussion, let’s just say that.” leads me to believe the trade might be contentious among fans. Again, Bouwmeester fits the bill. Thats my prediction.

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#50 toprightcorner
October 31 2012, 12:08AM
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Reading between the lines I see two options.

1. Long term high price contract of a very good player but cant quite live up to what he makes. Guessing 4-7 years left in contract. Can buy out contract when cap issues come into play for Yaks long term contract.

Payers falling in this stage IMO

Lecavalier Campell Eric Stall Wisniewski Yandle Tyutin Mikko Koivu

2. 2-3 yr deals where thet are passing on their prime but have a lot to offer on and off the ice. Contracts ending in low to mid 30's so still have a last contract they could get and leave to another team or stay at reduced pay.

Players in this category

Joe Thornon Patric Marleau Spezza Dan Boyle Briere Timonnen Joe Bowmeester Getzlaf (1 year) Perry (1 year)

I see Thorton or Marleau or Timonen as high possibilities.

Also see Lecavilier or Yandle or Tyutin being others based on being passed by other players on their teams and still having long contract.

Any of these either contract ends soon, easy buyout or can resign at lower rate

Luongo would be dumb. Van wont trade him in the division with chances of getting killed by him 6 times a year. He couldnt handle the pressure in Edmonton as a baby.

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