TAMBELLINI TALKS PROSPECTS AND INJURIES

Jason Gregor
November 20 2012 11:10AM

While the NHL and NHLPA continue battling over money, Edmonton Oilers general manager Steve Tambellini has been touring the world watching Oilers players and some of his best prospects. The GM had some interesting things to say about Justin Schultz as well as some disappointing news regarding a few Oiler-related injuries.

Jason Strudwick and I chatted with Tambellini yesterday on my show and here's a recap of our conversation.

JG: Let’s start with the unfortunate news; Oscar Klefbom. What can you tell us, we’re hearing that he’s likely done for the year?

ST: Well he got into a kind of funny position and just fell on his shoulder from what we understand. We know that Oscar needs to have a few more tests; our doctors are speaking with the doctors that take care of their club there. So it looks like he’s going to need some surgery, but we’ll make sure that we get all of the information first.

JS: How hard is it to get information, especially when they’re all of the way in Sweden it must be hard to coordinate and get everyone on the same page?

ST: That is one thing that we’ve worked very hard at, from a player development perspective and a communication aspect,  and Ken Lowe has done a really good job with this, is setting up a relationship with the trainers of the junior teams, colleges and it’s his job also to be in contact with medical staff. Most people do speak English very well and in fact I think Ken knew one of the medical trainers in Sweden from his time with team Canada. So we’re lucky from that standpoint that we have a pretty good relationship with most of the teams.

JG: You got the opportunity to see a lot of your drafted players in the Super Series, most notably Nail Yakupov. Give me your thoughts on how he’s played.

ST: It’s been an interesting year for Nail. He’s such a big personality on and off of the ice, there’s no question about it. Obviously he had a very good start in the KHL; I think that he had 10 goals in 14 games and it’s not the most offensive, high scoring games usually in the KHL under normal circumstances. So he’s taking care of business there.

I was only able to see the last two games in Vancouver and Victoria. I think that he had a good start to the series. He was a little quieter in the last two games that I saw. He showed flashes of offensive brilliance, but I’ve seen him play with more vigour than I saw the last couple of games.

JS: How difficult is it for you to evaluate a player that’s been drafted on your team or looking ahead to future drafts when the Russians are playing six games in ten nights? I think that it would be very hard to evaluate those games where they’re not 100%.

ST: It is hard. The Russians brought over a heck of a team this year. And of the criticisms in the past was that they didn’t bring over enough ‘A’ players for these series. But they did this year.

So you’re right, that’s a lot of games in 10 days to go across Canada. And every team was different, and so every team is fired up to get a piece of the Russian players physically and on the scoreboard. So by the end, I think that you could tell with their body language that they had pretty much had enough. The last game the Russian team was very strong against the WHL squad, and I give them a lot of credit because they were tired. It’s good to see how players react when they are clearly tired.

JG: Mitch Moroz got hurt and didn’t play in the series, although you’ve seen him a lot in Edmonton, but you had an opportunity to watch Daniil Zharkov play a game, and Travis Ewanyk. Give us your thoughts on their progression?

ST: Yeah I was just talking to MacT about Zharkov, he just saw him play in Belville the other night. He’s a big man that is a good skater, has good skill, so there’s definitely something there for him. There’s no question about it that he has the ability. It’s going to be finding his type of spot in pro hockey. I believe that this kid will have a chance.

With Mitch Moroz, it’s too bad that he was injured just prior to the series, I would have loved to have seen because it was a heavy couple of games. The game in Vancouver, the type of hitting that was going on, it was like a playoff game to start the game and Mitch would have fit in there nicely. But he’s starting to come on now and use that size and strength that he has to his advantage.

Travis Ewanyk, I was able to watch him play the first game in Vancouver and he came out just guns a blazing with kind of reckless abandon that you love to see, but it’s also the type of play where you can be susceptible to injury. And sure enough a Russian D caught him along the boards and clipped his knees. I saw him at Rexall Place today, and he shouldn’t be out too long. It looks like a grade 1 sprain of the MCL.

JS: Steve, you’ve been around hockey for a while, even though you’re such a young looking man, and you look around…

JG: You don’t need a new contract…

JS: I should have said that a few years ago (laughs). But in all seriousness, you’ve been around hockey a long time, and you mentioned how it was a very hard hitting game. Can you speak to the evolution of, not just Canadian hockey, but also Russian hockey and Finnish hockey, and how every country is starting to play more and more like Canada, and how Canada has had to bring in more skill development to their game?

ST: You’re bang on there Jason because I saw the under 20 over there and I also went to see one of the second tier leagues in Sweden the night before I left. Never before had you watched games on the big ice where would you see people finish their checks when they could. There was always a turn away, and then get back into a defensive zone, defensive mindset immediately.

And now you’re seeing them on the forecheck trying to take away that first player, trying to be aggressive on the second player, so when you watch the best on best they’re all playing the same game, there’s not really a difference. That heavy forecheck now, for the experienced players is really not there. Now it becomes, OK, are you able to handle it and do you have the skill to counter that, or take advantage of the situation. So it’s getting closer and closer to being one game, there’s no question about that.

JG: Steve, how do you function right now in the lockout as far as your overview of the team? You’re seeing some of your prospects spread out all over the country. Have you had a chance to see Hemsky, Smid, or Gagner play? Do you keep tabs on those guys, or do you focus most of the guys in the system.

ST: Good question. We do keep tabs, but this was a very tight trip in terms of seeing games and getting back to see the Russian WHL game, so I didn’t have a chance to see some of our Oiler players playing. But we do keep tabs on them and we follow them to see statistically what they’re doing and just try to make sure that we’re updated if there is any type of injuries or anything like that.

JG: How often have you seen the American League Team? What are you thoughts on Justin Schultz?

ST: Well I’ve seen a lot of games in OKC for sure. And the nice thing about it is that we do have so many of our young players there. Yes you want to win every hockey game, but they’re playing in a very, very difficult league, it’s tough, it’s competitive, and there are very  good American hockey league players that can play both ways for you. So just because you had some success in the NHL does not mean that it’s a guaranteed success at that level also.

So I’m very happy about the fact that they’re there and they’re growing together. I like the fact that it places some leadership responsibilities, added to what they would have here with the Oilers in players like Jordan Eberle and Taylor [Hall] who is going into their third year and Ryan [Nugent-Hopkins] who is a second year pro, but especially for guys like Jordan and Taylor where people are looking for examples of how do I practice every day, how to I react after a win, how do I react after a loss, how coachable am I.

I told them that ‘all of the players are going to be looking at you guys to see how you handle yourselves in these situations.’ So there are great opportunities for growth from the leadership standpoint of these guys.

You mentioned Justin Schultz and I guess everyone feels that there would be some sort of transition at the American League. Offensively, he’s been special from the standpoint of creating and just his natural instincts. I said, just a few weeks ago, and I know that the coaches wouldn’t be happy with me, but I feel like he’s a player that has not been over coached. He sees openings or a chance to make a play, and he makes it.

He’s led the rush on a lot of plays a lot of times and he’s come up with big goals or big passes at the right time, so you have to be pleased with him. You have to also be aware of the fact that going to the National League will be different for him. I think he’ll have some success. Of course I wish that we were playing in the NHL now, but I’m really excited, that he’s had a chance to go to the AHL first and experience that, it will give him so much further experience before he begins in the NHL.

JS: I got a chance to watch that second game in Abbotsford and I really zoned in on the D-men, obviously that’s what I know the best, and clearly the offensive side of the game is there for Schultz. But something that I didn’t expect, and that really surprised me, was his use of his stick. I mean he had a stick that was in the lane, he had a quick stick. Coaches always talk about poking pucks away and being in the lanes. Was that something that you had known before, or were you surprised at how well he uses his stick?

ST: That’s a great point because that’s exactly what Todd Nelson and Gerry Fleming were talking about in OKC, that he’s incredibly smart. He has a great stick; you’re bang on with that. And his defensive positioning more often than not is in a good spot. There are some things that are a little different from a strength standpoint with the pro players and the college players, but overall he is a very deceptive, with a quick stick to defend.

JG: Joanne Ireland had an article a while ago about Nikolai Khabibulin and Andy Sutton’s health. Andy Sutton has said that he’s not sure if he’ll every play again. Do you have an update on the health of those two?

ST: Nik has been on the ice, he’s been skating I believe this week with Freddy Chabot and working his way in. We’re hoping that he’s ready somewhere maybe in the second week of December, maybe sometime around there. He’s always been a fit person; he’s been in the top 10% of the class at all times with overall fitness so he’s working hard to get his body back to ready to play. So if we’re still not playing I’m sure that he would explore something, probably in the KHL.

JG: And Sutton?

ST: With the surgeries that I think that he is going to have, Andy will have a tough time coming back this year. It’s unfortunate, but we were informed that he hurt himself during training sessions and he had to get something done with his knee that is going to, I think, prohibit him from probably playing this season.

JS:  When you look around and you see all of these guys going to play for Europe, are GMs  excited to see guys going over there and happy that they’re playing ,or do they look on line more hoping that their player doesn’t come up with an injury?

ST: Well, you’d rather see people probably here. For instance, for us to have most of the players in OKC is a real good thing. You don’t want anyone taking time off from a game, so it’s good they are playing, but yet injuries are a concern. There’s such a fine line from someone having that edge and not having it when you get to the pro level, especially in the National Hockey League and from a developmental standpoint you probably need to be on the ice.

JG: Are you confident that we will see hockey at some point this year?

ST: I hope so. I’m staying optimistic.

JG: Bob Green acquired David Musil so now people in the organization can see him more often. What do you like about Musil’s development and is his foot speed where it needs to be, or is that one main element that he needs to work on?

ST: I think that David always recognizes that you can always get better at that, and he’s working on it. I think that his intelligence and compete level will always get him to the right spots, and he’ll play against the other team’s good players. He’s a big man that’s smart and can defend and that’s a big thing of playing against good players, you have to have the intelligence to defend against good players along with the ability.

He’s a hard worker off of the ice and I don’t see his skating being a problem by the time he gets to play pro hockey.

WRAP UP

I did ask Tambellini a question about the lockout, but he preferred not to comment, so I took out that question.

Sutton's injury will allow Corey Potter to be the 7th D-man, barring any moves, when the season eventually begins. I'd expect the Oilers to try and find another physical D-man who can kill penalties to complement Smid and Peckham.

Unless we see a resolution this week, it looks like Khabibulin will be ready in time to start the season, albeit as Devan Dubnyk's backup.

Here's a quick update on the Oilers currently playing in Europe:

Ales Hemsky: 12 goals, 22 points in 18 games for Pardubice.
Yakupov: 10 goals, 14 points in 14 games in the KHL. He was playing in Super Series the past two weeks.
Ladislav Smid: 2 goals, 11 points in 17 games for Liberec.
Sam Gagner: 5 goal, 8 points in 9 games in Austria.
Lennart Petrell: 8 goals, 8 points in 14 games for Helsinki.
Corey Potter: 0 goals, 3 points in 13 games for Vienna.

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#1 freeze
November 20 2012, 12:00PM
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Too bad about Khabby; I was happy that the Oil wouldn't have him around if there was a season.

Also, I much prefer to read Tambi's answers than listen to him fumble with words on the radio/TV.

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#2 The Beaker
November 20 2012, 11:16AM
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Man do I ever hope they do something on defence to solidify that back-end.... Status Quo just isn't good enough.

I cannot wait for Khabibulin to be put out to pasture, that era needs to end, maybe someone can put a fist in his eye and tell him never to come back.

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#3 Will
November 20 2012, 11:30AM
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Good insights from Strudwick. I usually don't enjoy his articles as I think they kind of meander around a point. But as an interviewer he has some really poignant questions that showcase his knowledge of the game, and ability to see things that regular fans, such as myself, might miss.

It's too bad you did not ask him to delve further into the 'wow' trade. Not that he would give up a name or anything, but it's fun to speculate.

Too bad about Sutton. I always thought he played with a lot of heart last year and was did everything you could have asked of him. I was excited to see him back this year.

It really sounded like Tambillini was almost about to call out Nail on the dreaded 'Russian factor', then you guys swung it back to the point about being possibly super tired, to which he basically said that's no excuse. Am I reading too much into this or did it seem like Tambillini is not giving Yak nearly as much rope and leeway as Nuge, Ebs, and Hall when they came into the league and needed "time to develop"?

All around great read.

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#4 RexLibris
November 20 2012, 12:35PM
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The point he made about Ken Lowe really stuck out to me. That he is communicating with the coaches and trainers on the prospects' teams is a great sign. Lowe has a lot of cachet, I would think, after his many years of work and turning that towards this kind of work is a brilliant idea.

Too often miscommunication, or a lack thereof entirely, results in poor development or a souring of the relationship between organization and player. That has sunk this franchise so many times in the past it'd be nice if we could get out in front of that problem for a change.

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#5 B S
November 20 2012, 01:10PM
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@Will

Strudwick's "meanders" usually involve his hockey experiences and provide a context to the point he is making that you don't usually get from many so-called "hockey analysts". Personally I enjoy them.

I agree with you on Sutton, he seemed to be one of the few older guys on the team that tried to do his job every night. With the exception of the Ponikarovsky hit, he did exactly what he was supposed to do. I hope they can get him back next year to fill in that 7th D slot.

When was the last time you heard Ebs or Hall criticized for effort level? Not saying you're wrong about Tambellini being biased in general, but Yakupov seemed to disappear at times during the Super Series.

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#6 The Beaker
November 20 2012, 01:22PM
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B S wrote:

Strudwick's "meanders" usually involve his hockey experiences and provide a context to the point he is making that you don't usually get from many so-called "hockey analysts". Personally I enjoy them.

I agree with you on Sutton, he seemed to be one of the few older guys on the team that tried to do his job every night. With the exception of the Ponikarovsky hit, he did exactly what he was supposed to do. I hope they can get him back next year to fill in that 7th D slot.

When was the last time you heard Ebs or Hall criticized for effort level? Not saying you're wrong about Tambellini being biased in general, but Yakupov seemed to disappear at times during the Super Series.

I would suggest that it was inevitable for Yak to "disappear at times" during the super series. They play how many games in how many nights, they are essentially playing ALL on the road after travel from Russia with team mates that are mostly new to him and he is the guy all the teams key on every night. Not to mention not really having elite type talent surrounding him. Not the greatest of conditions.

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#7 B S
November 20 2012, 01:42PM
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@The Beaker

I watched the QMJHL as well as the WHL games, and N64 was missing at times in both. It's understandable in his own zone, that's how the Russians play, but it was disappointing when he did it in the neutral zone, he didn't move the puck through very often, or draw defenders before passing it through. I'm not criticizing his scoring, the WHL had at least two guys on him whenever he entered their zone, and their coverage was generally very tight.

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#8 The Beaker
November 20 2012, 02:07PM
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B S wrote:

I watched the QMJHL as well as the WHL games, and N64 was missing at times in both. It's understandable in his own zone, that's how the Russians play, but it was disappointing when he did it in the neutral zone, he didn't move the puck through very often, or draw defenders before passing it through. I'm not criticizing his scoring, the WHL had at least two guys on him whenever he entered their zone, and their coverage was generally very tight.

Yeah I get you, I'm not going to read too much into it though. I'll wait to see how he does through the grind of a regular season... should be nice to see next year. *sigh*

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#9 Will
November 20 2012, 02:10PM
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B S wrote:

I watched the QMJHL as well as the WHL games, and N64 was missing at times in both. It's understandable in his own zone, that's how the Russians play, but it was disappointing when he did it in the neutral zone, he didn't move the puck through very often, or draw defenders before passing it through. I'm not criticizing his scoring, the WHL had at least two guys on him whenever he entered their zone, and their coverage was generally very tight.

All fair points. I didn't actually watch much of the super series and I hope I formed my criticism in the form of a question as I wanted to know what the guys thought. If in fact I was reading too much into his comment, or if it was warranted. It just really seems like Tambillini didn't want to pick Yak and got over-ruled at the draft table, but again that could be pure fabrication.

You are right that Ebs and Hall do not take nights off (especially Hall), but they were certainly forgiven for some rookie defensive errors, and some slack was lent to them that I just don't see Yak getting, and I worry that will transfer over to the fan base.

Cool that you like Struds articles, purely subjective opinion that I enjoy him more as a radio interview guy than a blog writer. He does have really insightful comments, but his articles generally lack the focus and interesting data that backs up points in say a Willis article, or the conversation generating points of a Gregor article. Just my opinion, I'm, sure he could still beat me up.

Question for both of you, since we seem to be the only ones in the comment section here, who do you think will be the biggest surprise that no one was looking for? For example, my prediction is that in edition to his solid defensive play, Smid emerges as an 8-10 goal and 25-30 point defenseman (obviously during the next full season).

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#10 toprightcorner
November 20 2012, 02:46PM
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With 12 goals in 22 games, it looks like Hemsky is learning to shoot more. I hope that gives him more confidence to shoot more as he will be a much bigger threat. After the last lockout, he played awesome so hopefully we see the same.

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#11 Will
November 20 2012, 02:54PM
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toprightcorner wrote:

With 12 goals in 22 games, it looks like Hemsky is learning to shoot more. I hope that gives him more confidence to shoot more as he will be a much bigger threat. After the last lockout, he played awesome so hopefully we see the same.

That would be great. Who do you trade (if anyone), Hemsky at the top of his game (I think 77 points was his best season) or Yak and all his potential. Keeping in mind with the way they have both been playing, I think you could get a lot back for either of them.

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#12 Rocket
November 20 2012, 02:55PM
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@Will

Last time I checked, Laddy was already putting up points overseas. Hopefully that translates to the NHL whenever they start playing again.

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#13 B S
November 20 2012, 02:58PM
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I could see Smid getting 25 points, but not more than about 5 goals. He's a shutdown D-man who should get lots of ice time next season (hence more assists on counterattack), but I think the prize offensive time will go to Petry and Schultze the younger, giving Smid fewer opportunities to score.

I think the surprises next season will be Gagner breaking out and/or Peckham becoming a consistent, nasty shutdown guy. I suspect one of the biggest problems for both these guys last season was coaching, Renney didn't give them a consistent position and style to play.

@Beaker, I suspect Yakupov will hit his stride in late October, then cool off around January. Last season only RNH seemed to keep up the pace all season from beginning to end, and he missed a bunch of games. Landeskog finished strong, but he had a weak start to the season that a lot of people seemed to forget when it came to voting for the Calder. I don't think Yakupov is lazy, or even out of shape, I think he's just playing a very Russian system, and happened to let off a bit in a tournament that had little overall significance to him. Tambi clearly wanted Yakupov to keep his foot to the floor and I think there may have been room for his criticism, but I wouldn't be too concerned yet either.

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#14 Harlie
November 20 2012, 04:21PM
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Is it just me or is Tambellini starting to grow on a guy? I love how he handled the Musil question keeping no negative references at all in his answer.

And I lol'd at Strud's buttering Tambi up on his age and looks. Classic!

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#15 Oiler Al
November 20 2012, 04:24PM
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Dont worry about Yak, I think his head is so far removed from Junior Hockey [ already], that its all KHL then on to the NHL.. He's Pro driven, and wants out of the baby steps.

He will be just fine as expected.

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#16 Word
November 20 2012, 06:29PM
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Totally random question: is Brian Burke posturing to become Gary Bettman's successor?

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#17 nathan
November 20 2012, 07:41PM
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In a parallel universe the oilers nation is overrun with distraught comments about the oilers drafting another yet another bad lab rum (Murray) when they could have had yakupov. It's easy to underestimate risk before the first one and overestimate afterwards.

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#18 Evials
November 20 2012, 09:59PM
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Has there been any word on why Theo left San Fran? I haven't heard anything, anyone else?

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#19 Taylor Gang
November 20 2012, 11:00PM
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I wish tambo would just straight up just tell us who he's looking at in the wow trade, or at least what position

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#20 Taylor Gang
November 20 2012, 11:00PM
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I wish tambo would just straight up just tell us who he's looking at in the wow trade, or at least what position

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