Worst to First Jerseys: The Edmonton Oilers

Jonathan Willis
November 22 2012 10:56AM

This installment of the Worst to First Jerseys features the Edmonton Oilers, and much thanks to Oilers Nation for letting me guest post on their blog. On my own blog, I talk about about graphic design in hockey and I'll be doing the rest of the league over time, so come by Hockey By Design to check it out.

By John van der Woude

The Oilers are the epitome are consistency in a league that tends to treat design like a revolving door: easy come, easy go. Aside from the Original 6 teams, only Philadelphia and St. Louis have kept essentially the same logo since the Oilers joined the league in 1979. (Pittsburgh, Buffalo and the NY Islanders have all gone back to their circa 1979 logos, but not before dabbling with other atrocities.) And the Oilers' jerseys have remained admirably consistent as well.

Here's how this works: I'll count down, from worst to first, all the jerseys the Oilers have ever worn. Homes and aways will be lumped into the same category (so, more of a jersey "era") and I won't worry about small changes (like slightly changed positions of piping for example). Third jerseys will stand on their own. And I'm focusing on the jerseys only, not the entire uniform. The jersey images are compliments of the fine people over at nhluniforms.com. For the Oilers, there's 4 different jerseys/eras. And we'll start with the worst one:

4. 2001–2007 Third Jerseys

I respect Todd McFarlane. I really do. He's an accomplished artist, cartoonist, writer and business person, achieving more than I probably ever well. But of all the things he is, one of them is not a graphic designer, and while his alternate logo that graced the Oilers' third jerseys is well-constructed, it's such a departure from the legacy of the Oilers that it's hard to not say it pales in comparison (I ranked the Oilers at #11 for the best team logos in the NHL, which you can read about here).

I know the legacy is built into this logo with the 5 gears representing the 5 Cups they've won, but you've basically got to re-design this logo whenever the team wins another Stanley Cup. To me, it says, "Well, we're not winning another one anytime soon, so we're safe to keep this logo going." The Islanders do a similar thing, but the integration is much simpler and subtle and not as integral to the overall design. This post, though, isn't about logos, but about jerseys and I have no idea how much input McFarlane had in the design of this one.

I've stated numerous times on my blog how difficult it can be to disconnect legacy and heritage from a cold analysis of the design of a logo or jersey, and this is one of those instances. In the mid-'80s, Glen Sather assembled what is arguably the best teams to have ever existed in the NHL, winning 5 Stanley Cups with 6 of the players from those teams sitting in the Hall of Fame. So, that logo, that jersey, that era, is almost holy. And this third jersey threw that all away.

That being said, outside of that context, these are not bad jerseys, and a valiant effort to forge a new identity for the Oilers that, at the point these jerseys were worn, were over a decade removed from those glory days. True, they had a run in 2006, but anybody except for the most delirious Edmonton homers who tell you that such a run was completely expected should be psychologically evaluated. If you ignore all history of the dynasty years, these jerseys are pretty solid but not without some things to complain about.

The best thing about this jersey is the simplicity and minimalism of it. The piping is simple but strong, complementing the jersey and the logo rather than overtaking it. I've always been a fan of including lacing at the collar, giving it a instant sense of history and legacy.

But the biggest complains about this jersey comes down to a pet peeve of mine, a blue so dark that it becomes almost black, which then begs the question, why even bother? The Oilers are by no means the only team guilty of this, with Buffalo, Columbus, Florida, St. Louis and Winnipeg all doing the same thing in this past season alone. I'm not against using a dark blue, but just lighten it up enough that it's obvious that it's a dark blue.

What the dark blue also does is also make these jerseys a combination of almost-black/grey/white, lacking in any sort of visual punch anywhere. I've never liked that on the LA Kings, and I don't like it here either, especially when you have such an awesome blank canvas like a white sheet of ice to work with. Colours work so great with hockey that it doesn't make sense to essentially not include any.

This is also the first and only time the Oilers played with using a font on their jerseys other than the angled-off block font that's a sports staple. I commend the effort in trying something different and wish more teams would play around with this, but it's a bit of a miss, looking more like a oddly squished Game of Thrones-esque font. Meh.

Jersey Recommendation: #83 Hemsky - A great player with lots of skill, but either because of injuries or other issues, has never really lived up to expectations. Kind of like McFarlane and this logo/jersey.  

3. 1996–2007 Home and Away Jerseys

As I mentioned earlier, there's a large amount of consistency with the Oilers' jerseys, so the rest of this post will be nit-picking about details. But, as they say, the devil is in the details. And I think Todd McFarlane would agree with me.

To be honest, I could rank the previous jersey as #2, and the rest as #1a, 1b and 1c as there's good and bad things about all of them, but nobody likes a tie game anymore.

This jersey represents what was the first re-branding in the Oilers' history in the NHL. And the re-branding was very slight. The royal blue became a darker midnight blue, the orange became copper and a little touch of red accent was added. Otherwise, everything remained almost exactly the same from the jerseys that preceded it. I think the copper was a great choice and works well with the name. I'm not sure how much copper has to do with oil drilling, but there's an industrial metaphor that works there. And it's a unique color within the design world of the NHL. But, you can probably guess by now how I feel about the midnight blue.

Like a badly-lit photograph, it's too dark. When on the ice, it's almost completely black and is not taking full advantage of the aesthetics of hockey. Like Charlie Brown, it needs to brighten up.

As for the red, I don't think its inclusion is totally necessary and I'm not crazy about its use on the numbers/name plates. It's not horrible, and works better on the dark blue jerseys because it's fairly subdued against the blue, but it's less successful on the white jerseys.

The piping along the bottom and sleeves on these jerseys are exactly the same as during the Oilers' dynasty days and are classic hockey jersey piping. Nothing wrong with a solid design that works like that. They're simple and off-set the logo just fine. Maybe they're a little bit too dominant on the jersey, and again, the additional red stripes on the copper stripe is totally unnecessary.

In the first year of these jerseys, that had additional blue shoulder yokes on the home jersey. Thankfully, that only lasted one season.

Jersey Recommendation: #94 Smyth - The heart and soul of the Oilers during these years, and the undisputed leader of the team during its 2006 Cup run.  

2. 2007-2011 Home and Away Jerseys, 2011-present Third Jerseys

For these jerseys, you can pretty much re-read what I wrote about the previous jersey regarding the colours, so I won't bother talking about that again in this section. To sum up: cooper = Great!, blue = Too dark!, red = Meh.

But the piping design of these jerseys is totally different from anything else the Oilers have had, the main reason for this being that they went for a re-design when the NHL introduced the Reebok Edge jerseys in 2007. At that point, some teams just kept the same design and made it work with the new shape, some teams took the opportunity to redeisgn their jerseys to complement the new shape, and some teams decided to radically change the traditional idea of hockey jersey piping and trace the new contours of the jersey with colour. The Oilers fell into that last category, and for the most part, they did so successfully.

A few teams went for the vertical piping from the base of the jersey to the collar, tracing a contour of the new jersey's design. I like the contemporary minimalism of it, like the hockey jersey suddenly got all refined and grownup - like the opposite of BizNasty. And it's much better than what the Oilers' hockey cousins to the south did with theirs, making it look like a barley-cooked spaghetti strand.

But the piping on the sleeves bug me. I don't mind the actual structure of the piping, with the thin white stripes and thicker copper stripe (but the red is still unnecessary), but I have no idea why they didn't just wrap it around the entire arm or why they gave it that wave-like thing, going thicker and thinner in different parts. That's a bit of a miss.

That being said, it's a great-looking, contemporary hockey jersey. Wear it with pride.

Jersey Recommendation: With the new era of Oilers hockey about to get going, you've got a whole list of people you put on this jersey. A #4 Hall? Yes. A #93 Nugent-Hopkins? Sure. A #14 Eberle? Why not. A #64 Yakupov? Go for it, but make sure that will be his actual number with the Oilers first. But since they're moving away from these jerseys (except as thirds), might be better to go for a #10 Horcoff?  

1. 1979-1996 Home and Away Jerseys, 2003 Heritage Classic Jersey, 2008-2011 Third Jerseys, 2011-present Home and Away Jerseys

Remember what I was saying earlier about separating legacy and history from the cold analysis of a design? Well, the difficulty of doing such a thing may have influenced the decision to place these at #1. But it's easy, as a fan of any hockey team, to see the intrinsic value of a jersey that raised not just 1 Stanley Cup in, but 5. These jerseys are pretty abrasive and even gaudy, but there's a reason the Oilers' organization keeps coming back to them: It's a symbol of success, and seeing all those #1 picks that the Oilers have gotten in recent years skating around in these jerseys makes you believe that success is again right around the corner.

And this royal blue is a hundred times better, because it actually looks like blue as opposed to light-blackish blue. It automatically makes the jersey bolder and more aggressive on the ice. The orange is, for those who know a little colour theory, the complementary colour to blue, so they highlight each other well. But too much of each colour, and they'll start competing against each other instead. In the case of these jerseys, they're well balanced though.

The piping is, like I said about the #3 ranked jersey, are solid classic hockey jersey piping. Unlike those jerseys though, it comes across as much more aggressive here because the orange (as opposed to the copper) stands out much more. That's good and bad, as the piping becomes pretty dominant on these jerseys (and like a a little gaudy) and could be pulled back just a little bit by either making the stripes slightly narrow, or have less of a gap between the stripes, or both. Primarily, you want the jersey to really compliment the logo, and it's starting to take over the logo a bit in this case.

Part of the problem too are the colour bars on the shoulders, which also compete with the logo. They're really unnecessary and could be removed, as they did with the 1996-2007 jerseys.

There's serious complementing (not complimenting) that needs to happen in a jersey, and this jersey has just enough of that. However, once you factor in the history and legacy attached to this jersey, it's just too much to not place (barely) in first place over all the previous jerseys.

Jersey Recommendation: You could put the names of the entire rosters from the '80s teams and the most current rosters and make an argument for getting a jersey with their name and number on it (well, almost everyone). Some of the most iconic players to ever play the game wore this jersey, as well as some serious upcoming superstars. Me? I'd rock out the #17 Kurri, in what was the home whites at the time.

Editor's note: John van der Woude previously wrote a similar piece at Flames Nation featuring Calgary's best and worst jerseys - JW.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 Ten K
November 22 2012, 07:35PM
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At the time they were introduced, the Copper and Blue jerseys made a lot of sense to me; the copper drop in the logo glimmered in the light and the red seemed to bleed into the copper producing a shiny orange effect. I think it was a brilliant design that stayed true to the Oilers heritage. That being said, when the retro blue and orange jersey was re-introduced, I couldn't help but smile when watching them on the ice; they are brighter, more colorful, and hold so many great memories. History is repeating.the Oil will rise again!

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#52 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 22 2012, 07:53PM
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Not at all reflective of the correct order. This is just another effort from an obvious out of touch outsider.

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#53 NewAgeSys
November 22 2012, 08:03PM
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@Prudham's.

I agree with you 100% on all counts.Just say that there is an artisticly catalysed SYSTEM that you would love to teach J.Willis or his likeminded cohort Staples and they will go into a catatonic state like a shark goes into when you turn them upside down and tickle their fishy bellys.They are great at overstating the tangible obvious things,professionals in fact--they have their niche.

Forgive them they are SYSTEM incontinent,they get all plugged up just hearing the word SYSTEM,ha ha ha.

Stick to tangibles and they will tag along.Use anything that remotely resembles an intangible and you threaten their statistic based mentality and livelyhood,without stats and 100% tangibles they would be lost.

I happen to think that every detail of every thing is important,no detail is to small to matter when you are being professional.

I like the Jersey Wayne Gretzky is wearing the best because it strikes fear into the hearts of millions.It is like excaliber,the people of Edmonton lost their faith the colors--the colors never lost power or their shine.

Once you are a winner ,history cannot be rewound and altered,that is a CHAMPIONSHIP jersey you see Gretzky wearing and MANY MEN bled many red spots onto the ice to give this franchise the right to celebrate those colors and the players of even today have a right to don them and proudly wear them into battle because of the sacrifices of those before them..

We will be denied championship glory for as long as this team ignores its history and the intangible power the Dynasty team created and weilded.

A lot of hard work and professional acumen was put into each and every type of Jersey the Oilers have ever worn,of that there is no doubt at all and I appreciate all who contributed.

But deep down in my Oilers heart I have nothing but worship to offer the Jersey Wayne is wearing.I think we should change back to it immediatly and reclaim our history,we earned it with blood sweat tears,and Stanley Cups in another era,lets never forget that.Lets respect our history and pay tribute to it by rekindling it ASAP.

Nice piece J.Willis,it is always nice to be reaquainted with our Oilers history,and also to get a feel for where our future might take us.Really at the end of the day you discussed an excellent example of a championship intangible,good on ya.

I think that the design of the jersey has tactical value that is intangible and we ought to bring the one Wayne was wearing in your photo back to life.

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#54 NewAgeSys
November 22 2012, 08:19PM
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Seeing as J.W started in the past ,I thought I would as well,ha ha ha ha.

The Oilers brought the traditional colors back at the perfect time,I love seeing that look and just like mini-skirts and plaid pants if you wait long enough and dont croak--everything comes back sooner or later.

If it aint broke--dont fix it,that Dynasty team didnt break it was sold and those colors belong on the backs of todays Oilers.

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#55 DSF
November 22 2012, 09:20PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

@Prudham's.

I agree with you 100% on all counts.Just say that there is an artisticly catalysed SYSTEM that you would love to teach J.Willis or his likeminded cohort Staples and they will go into a catatonic state like a shark goes into when you turn them upside down and tickle their fishy bellys.They are great at overstating the tangible obvious things,professionals in fact--they have their niche.

Forgive them they are SYSTEM incontinent,they get all plugged up just hearing the word SYSTEM,ha ha ha.

Stick to tangibles and they will tag along.Use anything that remotely resembles an intangible and you threaten their statistic based mentality and livelyhood,without stats and 100% tangibles they would be lost.

I happen to think that every detail of every thing is important,no detail is to small to matter when you are being professional.

I like the Jersey Wayne Gretzky is wearing the best because it strikes fear into the hearts of millions.It is like excaliber,the people of Edmonton lost their faith the colors--the colors never lost power or their shine.

Once you are a winner ,history cannot be rewound and altered,that is a CHAMPIONSHIP jersey you see Gretzky wearing and MANY MEN bled many red spots onto the ice to give this franchise the right to celebrate those colors and the players of even today have a right to don them and proudly wear them into battle because of the sacrifices of those before them..

We will be denied championship glory for as long as this team ignores its history and the intangible power the Dynasty team created and weilded.

A lot of hard work and professional acumen was put into each and every type of Jersey the Oilers have ever worn,of that there is no doubt at all and I appreciate all who contributed.

But deep down in my Oilers heart I have nothing but worship to offer the Jersey Wayne is wearing.I think we should change back to it immediatly and reclaim our history,we earned it with blood sweat tears,and Stanley Cups in another era,lets never forget that.Lets respect our history and pay tribute to it by rekindling it ASAP.

Nice piece J.Willis,it is always nice to be reaquainted with our Oilers history,and also to get a feel for where our future might take us.Really at the end of the day you discussed an excellent example of a championship intangible,good on ya.

I think that the design of the jersey has tactical value that is intangible and we ought to bring the one Wayne was wearing in your photo back to life.

I would be very interested in your take on Chaos Theory and how it relates to SYSTEMS.

Don't hurt yourself.

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#56 Cheap Shot Charlie
November 23 2012, 03:03AM
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I'd agree with some posters that the 2007 jersey looked like a practice jersey. I missed the official unveil of the jersey at the Joey Moss cup and then saw the teams skating in the jersey. I asked a neighbour when they were going to unveil the "new" jersey and he said that they were wearing them. I just think they could have done a lot more with a full arm band and some colour under the armpit area.

I think Buffalo had a good idea with their "electic slug" jerseys that year but had a bad emblem.

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#57 EasyOil
November 23 2012, 06:25AM
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Riiiiiiiight...

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#58 JSR
November 23 2012, 06:42AM
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i'm not a fan of the new jerseys. Back in the '90s, I didn't like it when they switched to the dark blue ones, thinking there was too much history in them to switch. Then, the dark ones started to grow on me. I''d have to rank them as #2, right behind the RBK Edge jerseys. Going back to the new retro jersey doesn't sit well with me. It's funny how opinions change over time!

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#59 DSF
November 23 2012, 11:17AM
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DSF ,I am somehow surprised you even know what the Chaos Theory is .Hell you read my post so you now have the traditional Chaos Theory and the correct version-mine the NHS to compare,the NHS ,the naturalistic version that isnt based on incorrect mathamatics or "statistics"--the ergodic theory was the core value we were spoonfed by the PTB to quantify the Chaos Theory, this is the danger of succumbing to peer pressure The physics based analysis was all catalysed by incorrect mathamatics.The three body question was really a dimensional equation that couldnt be solved with artificially manipulated non-natural mathamatics it needed a time/space quotient and still does,the turbulence astonomical processions and the engineering questions were also all pursued using the wrong tools.To keep it clear for you ,the mathamatics were wrong. Google Wilbur Smith he is a very important Canadian you probably dont even know about,just do it and learn--maybe it will save me some typing if you get your gear on straight.

The funny thing is that I am not sure if you intentionally hit the mark or if your witt and wile took you there by mistake.

The Chaos Theory is not only considered in terms of traditional mathamatics,in fact it was and is essentially an observation of very natural science --made by people who had only flawed tools to work with in their analysis of that naturally occuring poetry.

There is this funny little thing called the magnetic revolution happening all around you--I figured maybe you would be noticing by now.Google Keshe Foundation,Searl,David Hamel another Canadian, John Hutchison yet another Canadian, there is a lot of data available that will help you learn and catch up to world events.And marten up a little without hurting YOURself,ha ha ha ha.Grasshopper.

Mathamatics of the MAINSTREAM peer-driven variety was the only conduit for people to try to quantify the natural interactions they were witnessing ,documenting and recording,naturally their explanations and rationalisations would be based on the most popular perspective.However now that time anomalies are being produced under controlled environments and neutral dimension based understandings of physics are coming out of the closet,people like yourself who seem to be traditionally schooled are pretty much screwed,you swing around your steak knife traditional intellect in the face of the machete of new natural science,its a losing game man,educate yourself to current events.

Mathamatics and physics are being rewritten as we waste breath.And buddy the Chaos Theory is falling right in line with every aspect of the NewAge Hockey System ,in fact by the same application of natural science principals it is quite easy to understand--the same dynamic natural principals which will soon be accepted by mainstream science to better quantify the Chaos Theory and it wont be called a theory anymore,are the core values that make the NHS superior to any hockey system ever created.I explain how Gretzky manifested the Chaos Theory on the ice via the NewAge Hockey System and modern cutting edge natural science is resolving the Chaos Theory the same groundbreaking way way.

I dont expect you to fully grasp this all at once,take the hit feel the sting,find a corner to sit down in and recover then come try to take another bite of me.Dont hurt yourself.

For anyone reading this who isnt familiar with the Chaos Theory just google it,and read it,the dynamic references will fit a lot of the things we all see in hockey games and in any competative dynamic.Just think moving bodies in space are players,and the universe is the ice surface things will fit if you take your time and keep your mind open--its really peanuts--clowns try to make it seem complicated but it just aint.In fact if you arent thinking in any mathamatical terms at all it is even easier to understand,now you see why it is so stupid to rely on statistics for much at all when discussing anything about hockey,blatently stupid and decieving,intentionally decieving you rats. I know this knocks the wind out of the sails of a lot of people but so what ,people used to think the World was flat.I have been saying t for years when sharing my NHS,wake up and smell the coffee because the NHS produces winning results nearly every time,and you can only supress them for a short time.

Traditional mathamatics is to the Chaos Theory what Statistical considerations are to the NewAgeSys Game of hockey--they pluck it up royally.They are a lie,a peer-pressure catalysed application of the wrong tools.

Did you get any of that DSF?

I am actually pretty sure you do,why not jump on board the NHS train man ,it has already won one Cup last year and will win more,in fact the NHL will not be the same.Change does happen you know --so you must also know you NEVER see it coming or it simply wouldnt happen ,would it??

Dont feel bad there are thousands of scientists and physicists and astronomers and the like pulling their feet out of their own arses as we speak,same with a lot of hockey people exposed to the NHS philosophys of competative domination based on natural science and dynamic interaction.And remember the 80s Oilers PP,Wayne was a genius,a natural if you will.No book there boys and girls he created things on the fly.And so do I.Ha ha ha ha.

Now that was fun,really really fun.

Little do you know just how dependant on Systems the Chaos Theory really is,identifiable,newly quantifiable ,scientificlly validated SYSTEMS,all working in a natural state of symbiosis ,within time ,space and light and magnetics.

Actually thanks ,how else could I have ever brought this up here??Ever hear of a guy called Pimsleur??He uses the exact same "Chaos Theory"/NHS/Pimsleur method SYSTEM to teach you to speak another language functionally in about two weeks.

Xie'xie',Mr.Pimsleur, for your genius and free internet courses.I was however already there in Hockey perspective.

And DSF thank you,I was aware of the Chaos Theory but considered it bunk and still do because of the mathamatical baseline used to introduce it to us all,that is until the new natural science rediscoveries we are now integrating become mainstream,I thank you because I hadnt noticed the similaritys in form and function yet between the Chaos Theory /NHS/Pimsleur method of teaching,because you see I unknowingly used a combonation of Chaos Theory and the Pimsleur method in the manifestation of the NewAge Hockey System --you just made it much easier for me to find ways to indoctrinate people to the NHS.Outstanding.

Now...lets get to work on Phi and how it relates to the goal/assist ratio in hockey.

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#61 Archaeologuy
November 23 2012, 01:17PM
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DSF wrote:

Now...lets get to work on Phi and how it relates to the goal/assist ratio in hockey.

Didnt rickithebear already try th...OH MY GOD... NewAgeSys IS rickithebear!!

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#62 B S
November 23 2012, 03:42PM
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@gcw_rocks

You just got me thinking that fans should try a mockup of what their ideal jersey would look like.

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#63 Archaeologuy
November 23 2012, 03:46PM
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B S wrote:

You just got me thinking that fans should try a mockup of what their ideal jersey would look like.

This has Wanye-Style Oodle Noodle Photoshop contest written all over it!

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#64 B S
November 23 2012, 04:11PM
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What better way to pass a non-season, than foaming-mouth arguments over whose fake jersey design is more awesome. Drag the contest out for the next few months. Heck, the winner could try selling it to the Oilers for season tickets to next year's non-season.

Quick Willis, better get in touch with the Oilers brass and tell 'em to get ready for a new third jersey.

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Explanations of changes to current or previous designs encouraged.

Other than that, change anything other than the current jersey dimensions and the team name. Colours, logo, font etc., minor changes to old jerseys, totally new designs, anything goes.

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#65 Harlie - a guy too scared to put my real name
November 23 2012, 06:20PM
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" Almost three years in the making, the new Oilers jersey represents a proud step into the NHL third-jersey program and is a singular vision of both the team's past and future.

Though the new logo is bold, dynamic and industrially modern, it's rooted in respect for the traditions of hockey's past. The new design's key element -- the oil drop -- is taken from the original Oilers logo. The five rivets encircling the oil drop represent the five Stanley Cups the team has won since its 1979 National Hockey League debut. The 10 gear teeth (five each on both the inner and outer rings) represent each of the Oilers' 10 team captains, who include such legends as Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier. "

http://www.spawn.com/news/news.aspx?id=5313

More info...

http://www.spawn.com/news/news.aspx?id=5273

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#66 B S
November 23 2012, 07:57PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:
Wilbur Smith,Manley P Hall,David Hamel and John Hutchison,if you are bored read up on these guys,their own work not the reviewers opinions of their work thats like listening to Willis.

That's awesome. In that quartet you've got:

1) A conspiracy theorist who believes the U.S. government knows about aliens but is keeping the data secret.

2) A phrenologist.

3) A guy who says he "was given advanced information from extraterrestrial from the planet Kladen, enabling him to build a Free Energy machine and a space craft" and claims that the pyramids have blueprints of UFOs in their hieroglyphs.

4) A "self-taught scientist" who discovered, then forgot, levitation and believes that "free energy technology" really brought down the World Trade Center on 9/11.

I've always wondered what kind of person listened to these charlatans. Now I know.

As tempted as I am to see what more I can get out of a "to be fair..." statement on phrenology. I'm not sure I can go anywhere with free energy or alien pyramids. Plus NAS should know that reviewers' criticisms are the ones that matter, otherwise you can claim anything is true.

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#67 David S
November 23 2012, 08:45PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

J.Willis maybe you should stick to regurgitating statistical spin-doctoring,it much safer there at least you wont get in over your head.I believe Willis is this way because he didnt really get a chance to learn compteative dynamics,methinks he was a catcher not a pitcher.

Why not be really "fair" and let Willis know what a horses arse he is,he is supposed to be able to read for goodness sakes.

For anyone along for this little ride, Wilbur Smith has four excellent vidoes or rather youtube videos of radio interviews he gave to the public,they are absoulutely amazing and show just how far ahead of his time he and Canada really were,this is bigger than the Avro-Arrow suppression and theft by the US,Canada could have easily beed a much more powerful nation today had we retained Wilbur Smiths tech and knowledge.

Interesting stuff to bust up the hockey blues.

Wilbur Smith,Manley P Hall,David Hamel and John Hutchison,if you are bored read up on these guys,their own work not the reviewers opinions of their work thats like listening to Willis.

These are all Canadians who have made and documented groundbreaking cutting edge new natural science discoveries,they were ALL suppressed to differing degrees but ALL remain in the public domain-Viva la Canada!!!

And I bet those guys all had awesome SYSTEMS too!

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#68 Harlie - a guy too scared to put my real name
November 24 2012, 09:54AM
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@NewAgeSys

None of those bums matter. Guys like Nikola Tesla or David Icke are far more interesting and in Tesla's case far more substantial to human history than any of the guys you ran through.

Hell there is a guy living on Vancouver Island that has broken down human perception and symbolism to life actually being just a big 3D holographic illusion. And I'm still trying to figure out if Bryan Kemila really is DSF or not.

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#69 HOZ
November 24 2012, 11:01AM
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Umm..

You color wheel is wrong. You mean contrasting colours not complimentary. Complimentary colour are colours that BLEND together ie camouflage.

Contrasting colours are the ones that make each other stand out and catch eyes.

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#70 David S
November 25 2012, 03:26AM
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Harlie wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/tCp90.gif

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*High fives Harlie*

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#71 Harlie
November 25 2012, 12:44PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qnd-hdmgfk&feature=fvwrel

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#72 Harlie
November 25 2012, 01:07PM
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* drops computer exits stage and meets Dave S for 10 Jagerbombs and 2 donairs*

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