EXPLODE THROUGH THE CHECK

Lowetide
November 03 2012 08:06AM

Photo courtesy Rob Ferguson. All rights reserved.

The future of the Edmonton Oilers was on display last night. Taylor Hall was cleared to play, scored a goal early and the Barons won. However, the game didn't completely follow the script and Hall may be facing a suspension.

LETS GO TO THE VIDEO 

The first 12 seconds of this video (courtesy Neal Livingston from Tend the Farm) are the story this morning. I've read a lot of online stuff suggesting it was a charge--I thought he took two strides, waited a heartbeat and then two more before the hit--and have also read that he targeted the head.

I'm no expert and these eyes aren't what they used to be, but I think Hall hit him with his shoulder and it looked like the impact on Brodin was also shoulder. That's my take, and as mentioned the internet has other views (I invite you to share your views too). The one thing I believe is dangerous--and all players seem to do this know--is the explosion through the man when Hall hits him. That's how they coach it, right?

ON A LARGER SCALE

If you were offended by the hit, or are uncomfortable with your young Oilers being placed in a negative light, you may not like the next few seasons. The Oilers of 2012-20 are going to have that physical element and Oilers Nation should embrace it (in my opinion). I'm not suggested a Sean Connery "if they send one of yours to the hospital, send one of theirs to the morgue" mentality, but the bottom line is this a physical game and the Oilers have not been able to deliver that element in the past on their skill lines.

And it doesn't mean you have to be ten feet tall--Milan  Lucic has a teammate named Brad Marchand who is 5 feet nothing and an extreme pain in the ass.

Last night, two of the best young Wild prospects were hurt against the Oilers farm team. I take no pleasure in it, in fact its a damn shame and if that happened to the Oilers there'd be a lot of anger among Oiler fans today.

I get that. I understand it.

However, too many times over the last many seasons Edmonton has responded to physical intimidation with no pushback and a leaky powerplay. This current group can kill you on the powerplay and give you some trouble in the alley.

There's nothing wrong with it. Nothing.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

You never want a player to be injured, but its also true that hockey has a lot of violence in it--that's in the rules of the game. Hall's hit wasn't late to my eye, I do not think he charged Brodin, and as mentioned it looked like shoulder to me. If he gets suspended, I believe "check through the man and explode on your check"--which is coached into these kids from what I understand--is the culprit. The video posted here courtesy of Neal Livingston isn't conclusive, but from what we see its pretty hard to give a suspension to a player with no history of head hunting. That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee.

Bottom line: I'm sorry Brodin got hurt, but don't believe Taylor Hall did anything wrong or outside the rules of the game. If I stand alone, that's fine too. The Edmonton Oilers of 2012-20 are going to be hell to play against. This fan thinks it is about time.

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#1 RexLibris
November 03 2012, 09:10AM
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There was an interview with MacGregor a while ago where somebody (yourself or Stauffer, perhaps) asked him if he was worried about some of the hits Marincin was delivering at the World Juniors and in the WHL.

I may be misremembering here, I think it was Marincin, but the gist of the questioning was "are you worried about player X playing too dangerously, taking penalties for roughing and such? MacGregor's response was something to the effect of "I don't there's anything wrong with that".

MacGregor's response told me that one architect of this team believes that initiating rough play, and taking the physical game to the opponent, even on occasion inadvertently causing injury, isn't a bad thing for a team with a high level of skill.

I don't want to see Brodin or Granlund injured, but to be perfectly frank, the Wild seemed to have no reservations handing out a butt-kicking to our smaller skill player(s) for years (Boogaard, Clutterbuck, et al) so a little bit of turnaround is to be expected.

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#2 Bi-Curious Gord
November 03 2012, 12:52PM
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@ New Age System, Are you on Twitter? I'd love to follw you if so. Your in depth analysis is always spot on. The way you present your thoughts in a clear, coherent manor is a treat to read. Truly a wordsmith that comes along once in a generation.

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#3 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 03 2012, 10:49AM
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Good for Taylor. He should get kicked out of this evenings game as well. Instead of playing the shrinking violet, dish it out, set the tone, be the prick. Hope the shooting fish in a barrel pace continues for Hall.

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#4 John Chambers
November 03 2012, 08:33AM
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It is better to give than to receive.

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#5 steveb12344
November 03 2012, 10:05AM
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DSF wrote:

Looks like a borderline charging penalty to me.

My concern would be that the Aeros might really start targeting Eberle, Hopkins, Hall and Schultz to get retribution.

The Aeros have some pretty big boys on their roster and I expect you'll see some pay back tonight.

How would this be any different from the past?

The Aeros/Wild players have been targeting our stars for years.

Maybe Bulmer's broken face at the hands of Teubert,might make them think twice.

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#6 fuzzy muppet
November 03 2012, 12:39PM
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no suspension for Hall. AHL says match penalty rescinded and was shoulder to shoulder.

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#7 mayorpoop
November 03 2012, 08:17AM
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how could anyone really tell with that top quality production the AHL is putting to TV. that being said, the refs hopefully got it wrong. don't think Taylor is that kind if player. Oh and first.

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#8 Vaclav
November 03 2012, 09:29AM
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By no means am I suggesting that I'm pleased that two of Minnesota's top prospects are injured. But after years of watching the Wild's goon squad (RIP Boogeyman) physically intimidate and manhandle the Oilers skill players it's nice to see things go the other way.

The Oilers need to get back to being a tough team to play against... particularly in their own barn. Make other teams dread playing a fast, physical Oilers squad.

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#9 Lummeropenet
November 03 2012, 09:53AM
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Don't Messier with Hall.

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#11 Bi-Curious Gord
November 03 2012, 10:46AM
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Nuge better keep his head on a swivel tonight. Something tells me Abney might be busy today.

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#12 stevezie
November 03 2012, 12:07PM
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It wasn't a hit to the head, but Hall did take six strides into the hit. I don't think he was taking them thinking he was going to make a hit; Brodin took a very, very ill-advised lunge and does bear some responsibility, but I think the strides make it a charge.

I think 5 and a game was more than enough for the charge and do not expect a suspension, but who knows?

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#13 book¡e
November 03 2012, 12:17PM
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I'd say it was a borderline hit - the type I would prefer players not do, but its going to happen some times when you have ambitious aggressive players so I am ok with it and am also ok if there is a short suspension.

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#14 Wanyes bastard child
November 03 2012, 05:17PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

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#15 Milli
November 03 2012, 08:37AM
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Great hit and sounds like a helluva first game for T Hall!I'll be wearing my jersey Jan 11 and 12 for our back to back OKC Barons games and can't wait!

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#16 T.C.
November 03 2012, 08:40AM
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A couple of things: 1 the audio/video last night was athousand times better than it usually is .didn't mind paying for that one.2 I think the call on hall was wrong didn't look out of line at all.3 the barons played like S*** last night.

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#17 fuzzy muppet
November 03 2012, 09:07AM
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It doesn't help that Brodin lunges in at the last second.

It's not charging when two players are racing for a lose puck. Brodin barely beats him there and put himself in an awkward position.

It's unfortunate he got injured, but I'd hardly classify it as "dirty"

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#18 Truth
November 03 2012, 09:11AM
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Brodin looks to be reaching and therefore places himself in a vulnerable position. Considering that he probably noticed it was Hall coming at him he was not too concerned about being lit up like that he felt that would be alright. Hall will probably get suspended for hitting Brodin in a vulnerable position which resulted in his injury, but this is a case where Brodin should be anticipating a check. The old it's not a hit from behind if the guy turns.

Love the aggressiveness though. Hall is most often compared to Messier. What would Messier have done? That hit would be a blatant elbow targeting the head and then he would have probably 2 handed and pummeled the first guy to disagree. In summary, a shoulder to shoulder check resulting in injury should be fine, but today's NHL is not like it used to be. I'm guessing 2 games.

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#19 The Soup Fascist
November 03 2012, 09:34AM
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Agree. Brodin getting hurt is unfotunate. Other than that ...

1. Nice to see Hall wasn't walking on eggshells with his shoulder.

2. Can't say I would be disappointed to see Hall develop a mean streak and rep. May extend his career.

3. If he were to get suspended a couple games, would it be the worst thing in the world? Other than Sutton, how many Oilers have been suspended in the last 5... er.. make that 10 years? Feel free to play on the edge, FFS.

4. On a size impaired top 6, any physical presence is like pennies from heaven (less the escrow hold backs, of course). Oilers have played with as much edge as a wet Kleenex.

5. Stu Mac, was asked before last years draft if he was concerned with Henrik Samuelsson's suspensions in the WHL. His response to his interviewer, "you say that like it is a bad thing".

Exactly, MBS. Exactly.

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#20 seanjohn
November 03 2012, 10:28AM
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tough luck. them the brakes. keep your head up. the new Oilers want to be tough to play against. this is what we want in Hall: Justin Brown, only better. a hardnosed player with 1st overall type skills. Bring it on, Hall.

unfortunate for Brodin.

but, as for Hall playing it tough... love it.

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#21 Rama Lama
November 03 2012, 11:35AM
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Whatever play a player engages in........do it without any hesitation and do it with all your might!

The best hockey players historically never second guessed their actions.......indecision leads to failure.

Good for Hall in delivering that hit they way he did. Shoot the same way, drive to the net the same way, pass e same way........it does not matter what the play is just do it with all your might and abilities.

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#22 NewAgeSys
November 03 2012, 12:02PM
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I think by now the staff on both teams have reviewed the hit many times and have admitted the obvious,the hit was catalysed by an indecisive hesitation by the defensive player in his initiation of puck pursuit caused by his teammate in front of the net who was stickless and didnt clearly back away from the developing play,the injured player was drawn into the vulnerable position by his own teammate,Hall did not exhibit predatory tendancies on his entry to the hit or his engagment with the other player who was reaching and overextended and therefore unprotected at the moment of impact.

Mr.Nelson has a firm and solid system approach to team integrity and we dont need to worry about rough stuff,this is a good hockey league and the refs will be ready to shut the teams down early if it looks even a tad ugly out there.I would be more concerned with goaltender abuse which I see just around the corner--the only way to beat a team this skilled is to get down to basics and crash their net. I believe that Nelson has an excellent system tactic for asset protection on-ice,I think it is so effective that teams will be forced to go the traditional route and retaliate on our crease to try to stay somewhat competative out there.No one wants to get beaten twice in one night,and this system the Barons use seems to be designed to do exactly that to you if you dont react to it and cover and move.Teams have to step back to compete,if they try to step forward and take control of momentum they get steamrolled one way or another scoreboard or washboard,its beautiful to watch.

I would rather see the battles in front of our net where fights happen more than out in open ice where careers are ended by questionable hits,the Barons system forces opponents to use this net crashing tactic,teams will soon see that this is REALLY the only effective way to counter our tactics.Till then we simply continue to execute as we have been and continue to encourage teams to use this tactic in front of our net,it means a lot of fisticuffs on center stage and action for our tender, but it is what it is.

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#23 GVBlackhawk
November 03 2012, 12:18PM
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Rocket wrote:

Hall is a beast!

Seriously though, this is exactly how I want Hall to play. He really did look like Messier out there.

Hopefully MPS is getting the right idea watching Taylor Hall play like that. He could be destroying guys out there, too.

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#24 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 03 2012, 12:24PM
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DSF wrote:

So, you think Hall was standing up to the Aeros?

Appeared to me he was just finishing a check that, unfortunately, involved Brodin's head.

The Aeros have called up Corbin Baldwin for tonights game.

He's 6'5" 215.

Wonder if that means anything?

means nothing

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib

This stuff about Corbin Baldwin being recalled by #aeros in response to Taylor Hall's rough stuff is untrue. Not like Baldwin is some goon.

If the #aeros were trying to respond to OKC, it'd be somebody a little different than Corbin Baldwin.

thanks for playing the make something out of nothing game

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#25 Smokey
November 03 2012, 12:29PM
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Thought it was clean, saw two strides, shoulder on shoulder and a guy putting himself in harms way by turning at the last second. The last second turn by guys avoiding the hit can be more dangerous. Taylor said last night if he hit him the head, why was his collarbone broken. The guy should of taken the hit.

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#26 Wanyes bastard child
November 03 2012, 02:01PM
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@DSF

Sweet, thanks dude, I don't care what everyone else says, your pretty all right in my books :)

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#27 DSF
November 03 2012, 02:10PM
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Wanyes bastard child wrote:

Sweet, thanks dude, I don't care what everyone else says, your pretty all right in my books :)

I don't care too :)

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#28 Wax Man Riley
November 03 2012, 03:45PM
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stevezie wrote:

It wasn't a hit to the head, but Hall did take six strides into the hit. I don't think he was taking them thinking he was going to make a hit; Brodin took a very, very ill-advised lunge and does bear some responsibility, but I think the strides make it a charge.

I think 5 and a game was more than enough for the charge and do not expect a suspension, but who knows?

Exactly how I see it.

We all know Hall plays like a bull, 100% all the time. I think he was seriously racing for the puck, and tried to rub Brodin out.

It's just that when you are 6'1" 200lbs of elite athlete that skates like Hall does, a rub out turns into an exploded helmet.

Hall was finishing a check like all of us were taught to. I think 5 and a game for a charge is fair for sure.

Maybe not a suspension.

Also, the league ruled no suspension.

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#29 Wax Man Riley
November 03 2012, 03:46PM
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Bi-Curious Gord wrote:

@ New Age System, Are you on Twitter? I'd love to follw you if so. Your in depth analysis is always spot on. The way you present your thoughts in a clear, coherent manor is a treat to read. Truly a wordsmith that comes along once in a generation.

Bra-vo

*Wiser's slow clap*

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#30 NewAgeSys
November 03 2012, 05:16PM
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@David S

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Thank you rheumatoid arthritis--I am on Twitter.I have only used it a few times and am still new,i cant get on it now as I forgot my password and havent reset it yet,but I am learning and will do that soon.I dont really know how it all works yet.I set it up during the playoffs last year to acess a specific team ASAP but didnt really use the account after that I think I made 4 tweets.I am not a Tweeter by nature.I am nervous using it because I am not sure exactly who the tweets go to --all I know is I get tons of Twitter stuff in my e-mail--time to sharpen up I guess.

I dont really prefer a social media format as I dont play well with others who arent into winning 100% and unless I start a blog I need to use proper forum manners which I find to confining when I am trying to problem solve.I am on ATS "moma2s NewAge Hockey System" its not an organised blog but its a NHS thread you can respond on.Right now its pretty much a maze of random posts,all NHS related,but not in chronological order at all.I was a player/coach through high school-coached 3 teams and played on one myself so I have some very basic competative tactics and philosophys to share,not much but some.It seems in many cases the tactics and ideas fit really well into a hockey mindset.But anything new is always denied until it proves itself to be superior to the old.To be quite honest I am used to competing and in that environment I am in control and a constant communicator and very verbally involved,I was a quiet leader in practises and a loud verbal one in competition,as a result I am used to people just trusting me based on results they are personally witnessing that prevent them from questioning me and my tactics.It saves tons of time when you can just do it and show someone.I am very ill-prepared to handle the constant questions and debates from people that i am forced to accept when I cant just go out and do it as an answer to their inquiries or simply have them comply first and experience the results and ask questions later??So I end up writing huge volumes of text because if i was on the ice I would be considering all of these things--so how can I justifiably leave anything out if I am playing to win or teaching to win???

90% of the time the questions are the same from people,the sticking points are the same and it is soooo frustrating because hockey is so well coached from such a young age that players are indoctrinated and really handcuffed into conforming to convention and tradition or they just dont ever hit the ice.And my lack of basic hockey knowledge drives people batty especially when after two thousand words they finally get it--they couldnt define the dynamic situations but they had all of the data all along--which I wasnt getting,ha ha ha.I think and communicate in dynamic terms always,I cant change that anymore than I could throw any type of game on purpose,its just not possible.

If a G.M just told a team I was a consultant with carte-blanche and didnt give any more dynamic data other than I was untouchable as per managment then Players would listen and learn new dynamic tactics faster than in other sports because then that deep and complete coaching system would be working in my favor even if some of what i said was counter to conventional thinking.But if there is even the slightest chance that conventional thinking and tradition can be used to trump or impede me ,all is lost because those steel trap hockey minds will instinctively revert to their lifetime of teaching.I personally would have paid attention as a competitor to the freaking janitor just out of curiosity and the understanding that critical data can come from literally anywhere. Social forums are a death-trap for my methods.But alas I need the hockey brains because I have no technical baseline as a non-player--just a dynamic baseline from being a winner at many other sports.I NEED the people who fight new ideas so i can learn what they are thinking and seeing dynamicly.The problem starts after we communicate and I begin to introduce non-traditional dynamic actions,because all hockey players do is demand results or shut down,they are seriously not even willing to explore anything that isnt 100% results based,they are like storm-troopers.So I hit and run,post and duck,make a point and retreat to let the smoke clear--and do it again.Its the long way but without the basic hockey knowledgebase to properly do a blog I need hockey peoples perspectives controversy or not.

I love coming here because of the direct and short manner in which hockey people make their points and counterpoints based in large on each ones paralell personel experience,I learn a tremendous amount from them.I know that even a pee-wee player outguns me here but it is a learning environment for me not them,I know I am the one asking strange questions and presenting strange ideas to them.But I also know that places like this are the BEST resource if you are trying to learn about the game and how it works aside from just watching games on TV. Hope to see you on the moma2 thread when I straighten out Twitter I will post the name there.But I am here the most where I can learn the most.

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#31 Unhealthy scratch
November 03 2012, 06:28PM
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Certain postings seem to be longer than the Twitterverse's 140 characters, no? Twitter is an excellent suggestion.

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#32 n0f00ln
November 03 2012, 08:17AM
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Fist! WOOOOOOOHAAAA!

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#33 n0f00ln
November 03 2012, 08:18AM
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Boo..

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#34 bsmart
November 03 2012, 08:20AM
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it was a nice hit too bad he was injured

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#35 Chirp26
November 03 2012, 08:45AM
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How about the display of skill zharkov put on last night

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#36 Dipstick
November 03 2012, 08:51AM
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I hope that the review shows that the head was not targeted. I hope both Brodin and Granlund recover quickly. What happened to them last night is my worst nightmare for our prospects.

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#37 Guy Lafleur
November 03 2012, 09:24AM
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I loved the hit , gotta admire Hall getting his nose dirty right away and testing his shoulder also .Hall is gonna play the way he plays he goes to the dangerous areas to score goals and he plays with reckless abandon , its what he is .I would rather have the bull than another soft perimeter player ..love HALL and looks like the shoulder is fine ..bonus!!!

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#38 PerryK
November 03 2012, 09:33AM
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LT,

I posted the following at your blog:

"There is a video of the Hall hit at the Wilderness site. I hadn’t seen it anywhere else. After viewing it slowly backwards and forwards, it seems that Brodin was lost in space a little bit just before the hit. Some one reversed the puck off the right boards to behind the net. Brodin had the opportunity to make a play on it but chose to let it go to his d partner; who must have yelled at him because he didn’t have a stick! So now Brodin is lunging after the puck and Hall looks like his eyes lit up as soon as Brodin let the puck go because he realized that the other d-man didn’t have a stick. He went flying after the puck as Brodin was lunging towards it. Brodin touched the puck first but got creamed as he was in a vulnerable off balance position. Any way that is what I saw!"

I noticed something else in the video posted here. Before all of this took place, Hall tried a wraparound that broke the stick of the other d-man. That is why he didn't have a stick. Also since it happened only seconds before is why Brodin wasn't aware that his partner didn't have a stick.

I think that all in all, Brodin was an unfortunate victim of rapidly progressing set of circumstances.

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#39 Archaeologuy
November 03 2012, 09:34AM
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I dont see any way possible that was a hit to the head. I might be the wrong person to ask about ths stuff though, I personally have no problem with the occasional hit to the head in hockey.

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#40 NewAgeSys
November 03 2012, 09:36AM
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At 00:o8-9 seconds the opposition player makes eye contact with taylor hall and then makes a decision to pursue the puck,the defender is caught flatfooted and he knows it,he sees hall with a head of steam and closing on the puck and he decides to challenge him for the puck.It was a bad decision by the defender. The defender was aware of Hallsy the entire time,he wasnt caught off gaurd he was simply caught out of position and time and made a bad call. To the defenders credit he did not turn his back like an NHL player would have--this is the catalyst of the hit--in the NHL the man turtles and takes the hit,here the fella pulled a old Hall move and stretched out for it.All we saw there was an example of Halls maturity and experience,and an example of his opponents inexperience --last year Taylor was the one reaching,but not anymore.Taylor kept his feet on the ice and didnt expolde into his approach,he skated in with just enough speed to safely play the puck,it was not reckless,he was cautious--that was 1/3 speed not even for Hall.That was simply a text book hit with perfect timeing that the defender was not prepared to recieve,he was caught stretching.

I am no hockey player but in any contact sport you do drills every practice working on absorbing punishment or hits,part of everyones game is being able to recieve a hit on a pro level.That young defender was brave to not turn his back like a turtle,he was also gutsy to go for that puck,but he was vain to think he wasnt going to get punished by Hall especially because he made clear and unobstructed eye contact with hall long before the play was catalysed and the one on one race for the puck began.

Heres moma2s dynamic analysis of the play in question and its catalyst--what the hell I havent posted a long one in a long time.

I am superglad we have this video to watch because it drives home a point we had problems with last year ,a real traditional conendrum if you will.Moma2 has blogged this one to death already.

"WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU LOSE YOU STICK IN A HOCKEY GAME IF YOU ARE NOT ENGAGING THE PUCK???"

In the NHS you immediatly race ASAP to either a teammate of the bench and you get another stick,you DO NOT destroy your lines ability to defend properly.Ever.In traditionally managed hockey you might do a variety of other things when you are out there with no teeth,but you wont be eating any meat thats for sure.

At 00:04 sec of the video we can see a man with no stick pursuing Hall as he challenges the net,that is the catalyst of the play that caused the injury.That man set his teammate up for the injury,he caused a moment of indecision at exactly 00:08.5 sec by looking at his teammate but not calling for the puck,this planted indecision in his teammate,then at 10:00 sec we have a perfect shot of this moment the "man in the middle"with no stick between hall and the soon to be injured player who Pauses because of the man who looks like he should be able to get to the puck first BUT HAS NO STICK TO DO SO.This is a textbook example of the NHS core values clashing with hockey tradition and kicking arse--I got banned from an unnamed major Oilers site for slamming coaches and managment for refusing to adjust their old school hockey mindsets and this was one of the bones I beat them over the beanbag with,it was a real pain in my tophat for two years until I saw change happening out on the ice.

I have to stop ranting now because I also have evolved and moved past the days when I felt it was necessary to engage the Oilers managment--not anymore folks.Moma2 just makes observations now---gotta love the video no one argues.

This injury gets gently laid at the feet of the opposition coach for not clearly delineating to his players what to do when you lose your stick,the more times I watch the video the more sorry I feel for the guy with no stick because he actually looked to the bench before chasing Hall the first time and methinks he was told to get into the play.

Nice play Taylor --you didnt open up the jets and take advantage of another player you showed very good respect out there,you kept your feet on the ice and even turned a bit ,it was a clean play------sorry for the oppositions lack of preparedness I guess their coach has some good video to work with,I know we sure do.

Thanks for the video and the excellent piece,it is much appreciated and sure illustrates some really critical dynamic plays in a very easy to understand fashion.Please keep em coming.Nice to see you back Hallsy.

Moma2 still thinks it is Mucho Loco to have our gold coins playing where they are right now risking injury--just an observation.

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#41 geoilersgist
November 03 2012, 09:42AM
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I'm glad to see Hall isn't taking any crap. He looks like he glided into Brodin. Probably could have been a lot worse than it was.

I wonder how DSF will feel about this since Minnesota is his man crush.

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November 03 2012, 10:00AM
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geoilersgist wrote:

I'm glad to see Hall isn't taking any crap. He looks like he glided into Brodin. Probably could have been a lot worse than it was.

I wonder how DSF will feel about this since Minnesota is his man crush.

Looks like a borderline charging penalty to me.

My concern would be that the Aeros might really start targeting Eberle, Hopkins, Hall and Schultz to get retribution.

The Aeros have some pretty big boys on their roster and I expect you'll see some pay back tonight.

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November 03 2012, 10:01AM
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It's too bad Hall didn't get an assist on one of the other goals. It would have been his first Messier hat-trick.

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I mean did you see the rage on Teubert's face when he gave those beatdowns?

I'm guessing there's not many NHL'ers who would want to get in the way of that freight-train, let alone Aeros.

If they are so brave then why didn't anyone go after Teubert after beating down Bulmer/injuring Granlund.

My guess is they want no part of him.

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This is different from previous games against Minnesota/Houston? I don't think so. The Oilers standing up to them is the news here.

So, you think Hall was standing up to the Aeros?

Appeared to me he was just finishing a check that, unfortunately, involved Brodin's head.

The Aeros have called up Corbin Baldwin for tonights game.

He's 6'5" 215.

Wonder if that means anything?

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November 03 2012, 10:23AM
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I tell you #schulte feels that hit was clean, and #schulte knows hitting it's all he did when he played.

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@DSF

supposedly brodin broke his collar bone... im no doctor but if the principal contact point was the head how the eff did he break his collar bone??? sorry but thats no hit to the head, shoulder to shoulder.

tuebert will lay this baldwin guy out

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November 03 2012, 10:35AM
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geoilersgist wrote:

supposedly brodin broke his collar bone... im no doctor but if the principal contact point was the head how the eff did he break his collar bone??? sorry but thats no hit to the head, shoulder to shoulder.

tuebert will lay this baldwin guy out

Hardly mutually exclusive.

Very hard to tell from the replay but the referee certainly thought it was a hit to the head.

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Just means more meat on skates. Houston must have a half dozen.

More than half a dozen.

I expect you'll see a bit of nasty tonight.

Any word on whether or not Hall has been suspended?

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