ALES HEMSKY: GET WHAT YOU CAN

Robin Brownlee
February 10 2012 03:17PM

Is there any debate that if Edmonton Oilers GM Steve Tambellini moves Ales Hemsky by the NHL's Feb. 27 trade deadline he'll be giving him away for pennies on the dollar? Of course there isn't. The only thing worse would be getting nothing for him.

Hemsky, 28, is coming off another shoulder surgery. He's without a goal in his last dozen games and has just one goal in his last 26 games. Then, there's speculation about that body language thing – which either screams "Get me the hell out of here" or "I'm pissed about losing my place on the marquee," depending on whose translation you're inclined to go with.

Add it all up and it's safe to say Hemsky's value is at an all-time low and that Tambellini isn't going to get anything approaching full value for an in-his-prime player who, when healthy (whenever that last was), has been a crowd-pleaser who fits in the top-six of every team in the NHL.

If Tambellini moves Hemsky, who has underwhelming 4-18-22 and minus-15 totals in the 41 games he's played, he's going to get stiffed. If he doesn't move him, he's going to get nothing.

There's a lose-lose proposition if ever there was one.

FEW OPTIONS

I'm going to resist the urge to kick a player when he's down and pile on Hemsky with the people who are willing to drive him city limits just to get him gone. People, including those in the media, have a habit of turning on players when they're on the way out. Not fair.

That said, I think it's a stretch of monumental proportions to think, given how this season has unfolded, that Hemsky and the Oilers are going down the road of signing a new contract to keep him in Edmonton for the next four or five years. The next four or five weeks, for that matter.

I don't have any hard-and-fast inside information that Hemsky, despite some half-baked comments about liking it in Edmonton, has made it known he absolutely wants to stay. On the flipside, nobody who is in-the-know has told me Hemsky has made it clear he wants out, even if every instinct I have tells me he wants a new start as an unrestricted free agent this summer.

Likewise, I'm not convinced that the Oilers are determined to keep Hemsky in the fold moving forward. Even in the unlikely event they are, I'm not sold that Tambellini is capable of making the kind of pitch to Hemsky and agent Jiri Crha that'll make it happen on a team that's about to miss the playoffs for the sixth straight season.

Owner Daryl Katz made that pitch to Hemsky over dinner a couple of summers ago and the Czech winger bought it. Hemsky's performance on the ice has since gone sideways with his shoulder problems. And it's not like Katz or anybody else can sell Hemsky on the merits of being the brightest star on the big team in town this time, as was the case before Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins arrived. Another season or two of rebuilding before this team can contend? Hmm.

"Ales, we'll be really good in two more years . . ."

LIMITED MARKET

Listening to plugged in Darren Dreger of TSN tell it today on TEAM 1260, the market for Hemsky isn't exactly teaming with GMs trying to elbow their way to the front of the line to get him. Why would they after what we have seen the past two seasons? Has Hemsky looked like a player a Stanley Cup contender has a spot reserved for in the top six?

That, as Dreger and others point out, could change in the next 18 days as the playoff picture starts to sort itself out and the wants and needs of contenders become more pressing. Then again, realistically, how many destinations might there be aside from Los Angeles, Nashville and Detroit, where past interest in him is apparently waning in favor of adding a grittier forward?

And, unless a team absolutely needs a player with one goal in his last 26 games right here and right now, isn't it more likely that they take a run at him over the summer, should Hemsky catch fire down the stretch? And if somebody does make an offer now, what might the best possible return to the Oilers be? That's the question.

While it's absolutely fair comment to ask how the Oilers and Hemsky got to this point in the first place, it's where they are. Framed in that, the way I see it is that Hemsky's gone one way or another and it's better to get something for him in the next 18 days rather than nothing.

Unless you think Hemsky is coming back. If you do, I have a real estate deal that can make you rich. Really.

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#51 TonyT
February 10 2012, 06:12PM
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I think how management deals with Hemsky is a pretty good indicator of what the kids or any FA signing should expect from management in the upcoming years. I am still dumbfounded as to of all the Oiler players shipped out over the years, Horcoff is where the draw the line. We the fans are probably not the only ones waiting to see if (Mr. Communication) Tambellini gets re-upped. Forget the return on Hemsky, I want to know what to look forward to in the next 2-3 years...

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#52 Paq Twinn
February 10 2012, 06:14PM
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Tyler wrote:

I think it's steep for a player having a lousy year AND coming off two shoulder surgeries when he's not the big cog in the machine he was just two or three seasons ago.

Well, I'm not convinced he won't be a big cog going forward if he were to stay. Time would tell. Nothing wrong with being able to do different things on the PP for example, and Hemsky's a good two way player.

The injuries are the real wild card. None of us have any idea what the expectation is as far as his health coming back. His percentages this year have been so miserable (shooting percentage and on-ice shooting eprcentage) that I'm inclined to believe the numbers are misfortune mixed with recovery from injury.

Unfortunate or not but Hemsky is already NOT an important cog. In fact all he ever really was, is an excellent complimentry player. He isn't and never really has been, minus a few exceptions, the drink stirer.

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#53 @NateInVegas
February 10 2012, 06:22PM
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My biggest problem with the Oilers, is that they've sold the idea of a rebuild without actually having a plan. When they drafted Taylor Hall it was obvious Penner and-or Hemsky would be on their way out.

Maybe the Oilers can create a market by pulling Hemsky out of the line-up until a deal is done one way or another. The way I see it, every shift Hemsky plays until Feb27 is playing with fire.

Some transparency and consistency from this organization would be greatly appreciated.

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#54 Oiler AL
February 10 2012, 06:23PM
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Whoa! $5.75 for five years. Got to be kidding! That would be a non starter. I think its time for Ales to move on and test the market. He will be shocked when they try to get those [above] kind of numbers.Gretzky got traded, why not Hemsky. Oilers can pick up a draft in the likes of one of the Russian kids, for 1/3 the rate, and save 8 years.I also think Hemsky would like to be on a winning team..At the end Tambini looses , he wont get much for him at this point. Unless Lombardi is still asleep.

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#55 Quicksilver ballet
February 10 2012, 06:23PM
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5.75 for each of the next 5 yrs, good luck with that Ales. Watch him settle for 16 over 4 yrs during the summer with his new club.

At the end of that difficult 09-2010 season, Steve met with alot of players to see if they were on board with what was about to happen. Looks like Hemsky gave Tambellini as much bullshit as he could carry during that departure meeting.

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#56 Clarko
February 10 2012, 06:35PM
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magisterrex wrote:

For years the Oilers tried to find someone who had chemistry with Ales Hemsky, but no one seemed to fit. Horcoff gets paired with him to make up for Hemsky's oft-brutal defensive game, so it's less of Hemsky being stuck with Horcoff and more of Horcoff being stuck with Hemsky.

Look at the Top Six. Where does Ales fit in? I don't see him as a third line guy. So who can play with him on the top lines?

Horcoff and his minus 19 makes up for nobody's defensive game. Horcoff is an average defensive player at best, and it is usually the offensively-challenged players that get the "defensive forward" label.

Horcoff should be sending Hemsky royalties for that massive contract he got. Hemsky was easily the best player on the team in 05/06...and was the main reason Horcoff piled up all those points and received one of the most generous contract extensions in league history.

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#57 DieHard
February 10 2012, 06:52PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

FROM HEMSKY TO GREGOR

“Of course I would like to stay, but it depends on the terms. I can’t really talk about it because I haven’t seen an offer yet. I like the guys here, I like the city, the fans are great and I have lots of friends here. I’ve always been happy here so I’d like to stay.”’

Yes, the terms.

And like I said, even if Hemsky wants to stay, there's the Oilers half of the equation. Do they want him at the terms Hemsky speaks of?

Haven't read all the comments yet (usually do) but what team will risk what Hemsky's terms may be? From any GM's point of view, based on what you've seen of Hemsky this year - no scoring (yes, playing the toughs but he's done that before) to giving up on plays to losing the puck and no effort to get it back. No matter what happens by Feb 27, July 1st is a big issue for all GM's with regards to Hemsky.

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#58 Oilers4ever
February 10 2012, 07:00PM
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No way he's coming back... anyone who thinks that is nuts.. The deal would have been long ago to kill any rumors if that was true... I know people say it sucks cuz his return is low but seriously.. if his on ice play shows this badly in games.. what the hell is he like in the lockerroom? Cancer like Souray? Doubtful... but he won't be the same glowing bed of roses of exuberance and energy like Hall, Ebs, and RNH and I have to believe there is a bit of a negative impact on the team in some way. None of us living in the Oilers lockerroom day in and day out so we'll never know. I just hope Hemmer and his agent are not thinking they are going to get big time bucks come July 1... 4 million for 1 goal in 26 games... yeesh.. even Belanger is better deal.. at least he scores one, kills penalties, wins faceoffs and has a positive attitude... the Detroit deal that is rolling around is the best one in my mind.. or Blum and Nashville's 1st if they will still do it... Stop crying and move on... oh yeah.. and fire the GM already. :)

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#59 BingBong
February 10 2012, 07:11PM
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Put me in the "Hemsky's gone at the deadline" camp. I don't really think Ales has much incentive to want to come back, and I definately don't think the Oilers want him back. The youth/culture change movement is in full swing. I don't know what he'll get July 1st ($18M for 4 years maybe?), but there's no way he'll get that here. I'm guessing we get a late 1st rounder, or 2nd rounder and an average roster player on deadline day. Tambo's hoping for a bidding war.

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#60 Chris
February 10 2012, 07:25PM
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The thing that bothers me is not if you want Hemsky gone, if you like him, hate him, think he is injury prone, too expensive etc.

The bottom line is how terribly this asset has been managed. If the Oilers have given up on him and decided to go "youth movement" did they feel differently about this 6 months ago? If they knew this was the eventual outcome, why not sell him last summer? Why risk injury or a bad season??

Tambo has backed himself into a "must-sell" corner, and Hemmer is at an all time low. This moment in time is the absolute maximum worse time to sell the asset. You can't really look back and say there is any moment in time where Hemsky was worth less than right now today, when Tambo has basically broadcast to the world he isn't interested in signing him and must trade him for whatever he can get..

Sounds like some stellar management that deserves a contract extension.

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#61 etownman
February 10 2012, 07:28PM
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I cannot predict what's going to happen with Ales from the deadline on but I really don't want to see him back with the Oil next year! If Tambellini can move him & get something of value that would be great but there really isn't a place for him on this team. He will be 29 to start next season & very fragile! All teams know this & if he does make it onto a playoff roster what do you think part of the game plan will be to neutralize Ales, 'finish your checks always on Hemsky'! When the Oilers lost Laraque it was open season on Hemmer & he paid the price big time!

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#62 dawgbone
February 10 2012, 07:41PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

5.75 for each of the next 5 yrs, good luck with that Ales. Watch him settle for 16 over 4 yrs during the summer with his new club.

At the end of that difficult 09-2010 season, Steve met with alot of players to see if they were on board with what was about to happen. Looks like Hemsky gave Tambellini as much bullshit as he could carry during that departure meeting.

Unlike the Oilers, most negotiators start out with a number that they fell is either above or below the amout that they want to pay/accept (depending on what side they are on).

Like Tyler said, if this was his initial position it doesn't mean there isn't significant room to negotiate either in terms of term or dollar amount.

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#63 A-Mc
February 10 2012, 07:57PM
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5.75m/yr for 4 years literally made my stomach sink. I feel a strong negative gut reaction to tht deal: I sure hope we would pass on that.

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#64 Quicksilver ballet
February 10 2012, 08:38PM
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dawgbone wrote:

Unlike the Oilers, most negotiators start out with a number that they fell is either above or below the amout that they want to pay/accept (depending on what side they are on).

Like Tyler said, if this was his initial position it doesn't mean there isn't significant room to negotiate either in terms of term or dollar amount.

To have Jiri Crha put that number out there is laughable. He's a support player, nothing more. To even float that number out there for the Oilers to consider is ludicrous.

Does Hemskys agent think they'll risk losing an Eberle or another important piece in one more yr just so the Oilers can hang onto the on again off again 83?

Offer him 6 over 2 yrs.... and send him a message. Your time here is done Ales, get out of town.

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#65 Slats
February 10 2012, 08:48PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

I think it's steep for a player having a lousy year AND coming off two shoulder surgeries when he's not the big cog in the machine he was just two or three seasons ago.

Your point is taken, though. Even if we take him at his word, I'm not convinced the Oilers are nearly as interested in placating him as they were a couple of years ago.

Correct Brownlee and as with all things of value you pay for its "future" value not what you did in the past. $5.75 mm for 4 years are the deals they are printing a lot of in Calgary. Please let's not make that mistake!

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#66 Kevin
February 10 2012, 09:08PM
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When Tambellinis extension gets announced he should extend Hemsky 3 years to say a cool $12 million or so. This will give Tambellini some more time to assess......NOT. The fact that we have to be starring at this sort of return makes me sick. I have heard this tune far too many times with this Management duo of Lowe and Tambellini. Asset management has been an issue around and continues to be such. How does trading Sutton for any kind of pick make any sense when he brings exactly what we need regardless of age. He has two years in him easy while we wait for some of our young D to further develop. Watching my childhood team being so badly mismanaged is exhausting me.

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#67 Bryzarro World
February 10 2012, 10:54PM
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Tyler wrote:

I think it's steep for a player having a lousy year AND coming off two shoulder surgeries when he's not the big cog in the machine he was just two or three seasons ago.

Well, I'm not convinced he won't be a big cog going forward if he were to stay. Time would tell. Nothing wrong with being able to do different things on the PP for example, and Hemsky's a good two way player.

The injuries are the real wild card. None of us have any idea what the expectation is as far as his health coming back. His percentages this year have been so miserable (shooting percentage and on-ice shooting eprcentage) that I'm inclined to believe the numbers are misfortune mixed with recovery from injury.

You gonna get that big "cog" from Cogswell's Cogs or maybe Spacely's Sprockets? Tough choice...

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#68 Reagan
February 10 2012, 11:04PM
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Didn't pull the trigger last year, and they probably won't this year. Hey TSN did mention there was a soft offer for Jeff Carter. Kinda wonder if they scoffed at the Hemsky for Carter Trade? Haha.

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#69 Douche Nietzsche
February 10 2012, 11:22PM
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I hope Hemsky gets traded. The man deserves to see what a winning and succesful franchise is before his career is over. The only thing sadder than this franchise is the state that Isreal and Iran will leave Middle East in in a couple of months.

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#70 CDean
February 11 2012, 03:01AM
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If value is at an all time low for Hemsky and they trade him for next to nothing but if they don't they risk him leaving for nothing. I suggest an alternative, let the trade deadline pass and keep trying to negotiate a new contract. This could help in different ways. It puts a new image to the seriousness of the team in terms of loyalty, winning and talent. It also will show this to Hemsky himself and that will help him sign a new contract. I think Hemsky deserves to stay here is this will help both sides.

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#71 Ed in Mada
February 11 2012, 03:02AM
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Hemsky is currently putting up a point every two games after coming off two injury plagued seasons. I would expect he signs for aout 2 million for one year, no GM would take a gamble on this guy long term or for big bucks.

I believe last year the Oil had to make a decision to go forward with Penner or Hemsky. When Hemsky was out for the season the decision was made, they had to trade Penner as Hemsky was untradeable. The irony is that Penner is having a worse year than Hemsky, so ST should be praised for getting two first rounders for Penner.

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#72 RossCreekNation
February 11 2012, 06:45AM
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Wouldn't it be ironic if come d-day, Hemsky was asking for 5.5 & the Oilers were offering 5.4, and they traded him (for 3 riff prospects) over 100k...? Ironic... or awesome!

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#73 Kodiak
February 11 2012, 07:08AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Wouldn't it be ironic if come d-day, Hemsky was asking for 5.5 & the Oilers were offering 5.4, and they traded him (for 3 riff prospects) over 100k...? Ironic... or awesome!

No, that wouldn't be ironic, it would be extremely fortuitous. Paying Hemsky anything more than $4m a year or a term more than 3 years is assinine.

All you have to do is compare our win/loss record over the last few years with Hemsky in and out of the lineup to see how unimportant he is to this team.

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#75 Kodiak
February 11 2012, 08:48AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Who else was out in the games Hemsky missed? What was the quality of opposition the Oilers faced with Hemsky out of the line-up compared to when he was in? Road games vs. home games? Etc.

Have any take you want -- I happen to agree Hemsky is not as important to this roster as he was to the team two or three years ago -- but the win/loss record with him in and out of the line-up argument is as weak as it gets because of the all the variables involved.

On a small sample size I would agree with you but thanks to Hemsky's brittleness we've got a large sample size (playing 110 games, missing 118 games since 2009). IMO a 228 game sample size averages out the variables enough to get a decent read on his overall impact in winning and losing games.

If you agree Hemsky is not as important to this roster as he once was, what would you pay to keep him here? I can't see giving someone who is less valuable to you going forward more money than they are presently making, and that's without taking in to consideration his ongoing injury concerns.

You might want to consider dropping the " as weak as it gets" comment unless you have crunched all the variables involved and are able to back it up with stats....

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#76 Romulus' Apotheosis
February 11 2012, 08:50AM
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Kodiak wrote:

No, that wouldn't be ironic, it would be extremely fortuitous. Paying Hemsky anything more than $4m a year or a term more than 3 years is assinine.

All you have to do is compare our win/loss record over the last few years with Hemsky in and out of the lineup to see how unimportant he is to this team.

What Brownlee said... but also, this:

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2011/12/12/the-oilers-record-with-and-without-ales-hemsky/

and this:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/correlation-or-causation-12012011-gfx.html

The correlation ≠ causation is a bread and butter fallacy. Best to leave it at home. It's only impressive to people inclined to believe that blinking causes the world to disappear and reappear.

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#78 tileguy
February 11 2012, 10:14AM
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RB worte "Unless you think Hemsky is coming back. If you do, I have a real estate deal that can make you rich. Really."

Don't be so sure of this, Tambo is in a no win situation here, so patience is the best option. Let him play out the season here and test the waters this summer, a 3yr deal back in E town for 3.5 mil might look pretty good. If some gm wants to throw money around, well good for him, Hemsky has no value right now, so no need to panic.

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#79 tileguy
February 11 2012, 10:19AM
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Romulus that made me laugh, for those who didn't bother to look, have a peek.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/correlation-or-causation-12012011-gfx.html

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#81 nunyour
February 11 2012, 11:09AM
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no matter how much Hemsky and his agent think he is worth ,you have to look at the stats,22 games in 09,47 games in 2010,and this year he is brutal ,and if he really cared he might spend a little time after practise working on his game instead of being the first one out the door

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#82 Chris
February 11 2012, 11:18AM
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Assuming Tambo isn't making up his long term plans on the fly, why didn't he sell Hemmer last summer? Did Tambo not know his 74 Pacer wasn't in the cards long term?

Lost in this conversation is how much we could have got for Hemmer in the past and how little we will get now. Epic fail by management.

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#84 pelhem grenville
February 11 2012, 11:45AM
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Ed in Mada wrote:

Hemsky is currently putting up a point every two games after coming off two injury plagued seasons. I would expect he signs for aout 2 million for one year, no GM would take a gamble on this guy long term or for big bucks.

I believe last year the Oil had to make a decision to go forward with Penner or Hemsky. When Hemsky was out for the season the decision was made, they had to trade Penner as Hemsky was untradeable. The irony is that Penner is having a worse year than Hemsky, so ST should be praised for getting two first rounders for Penner.

Ed...

nicely played back-handed compliment for our GM!!!

...last year was the year of The Lumux...

... this year is the year of Lazy Bones that no one wants really

will it end with 83 going b-bye finally?

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#85 Lofty
February 11 2012, 11:46AM
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I think the Oils best course of action is to get whatever they can for Hemsky. Draft another talented forward with the 1st round pick in the draft.

Use the money saved from Hemskys salary and Smyths new lower contract to bring in a quality D for 2 years.

After 2 years a couple of the D prospects should be ready and the cap space will be available for Eberle and Hall. Fix the goalie situation if needed at the end of next year when Khabby is gone.

If the Oil end up with another lottery team next year they'll have to trade the pick or one of Hall, Eberle, RNH or the 2012 1st rounder because the money will not work. This is assuming no major changes to the CBA.

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#86 Soccer Steve
February 11 2012, 01:27PM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

My biggest problem with the Oilers, is that they've sold the idea of a rebuild without actually having a plan. When they drafted Taylor Hall it was obvious Penner and-or Hemsky would be on their way out.

Maybe the Oilers can create a market by pulling Hemsky out of the line-up until a deal is done one way or another. The way I see it, every shift Hemsky plays until Feb27 is playing with fire.

Some transparency and consistency from this organization would be greatly appreciated.

Nate, imagine this: You own a pizza shop and I own a pizza shop. I have decided to deconstruct pizza as it is currently known and relay my goals and aims to my customer base. You find out. As a competitor, you do everything in your power to undermine my plans (ie unveil the same product sooner, steal my customers, buy from food distributors and block the sale of their goods to me, etc etc).

This is the kind of transparency you would like all the other teams in the NHL to see? Or you know for a fact they don't actually have a plan?

What is it then?

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#87 tileguy
February 11 2012, 01:31PM
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The source of panic comes from these blogs, I have no insider information myself, but can well imagine management has no idea what they are going to do. I am only suggesting that that we wait and see how the cards lay out. the pacer may have a hemi under the hood that just needs a repair(shoulder) and a top 6 forward may reappear.

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#89 tileguy
February 11 2012, 02:21PM
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Panic = comment #1 - sign him for 1 more year

#2 - loose/loose proposition

#6 - confusion, "why does he tell Gagne he wants to be here"

#7-8 short term signing, panic makes people sat things that just ain't gonna happen

12 - "sign him 2 years" next breath "no RB, you're bang on"

well tha's 6 examples in the first 12 comments tbhat suggest confusion and concern about what is going to happen to Hemsky. That's panic.

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#90 @NateInVegas
February 11 2012, 02:29PM
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Soccer Steve wrote:

Nate, imagine this: You own a pizza shop and I own a pizza shop. I have decided to deconstruct pizza as it is currently known and relay my goals and aims to my customer base. You find out. As a competitor, you do everything in your power to undermine my plans (ie unveil the same product sooner, steal my customers, buy from food distributors and block the sale of their goods to me, etc etc).

This is the kind of transparency you would like all the other teams in the NHL to see? Or you know for a fact they don't actually have a plan?

What is it then?

When I order a pizza it's expected it to arrive within a reasonable amount of time...

Is this a 3 year pizza, 5 year pizza, or a 7 year pizza?

When Mr Katz wanted your money, he found a way to make himself available to the public. Now that he has it, where is he to answer legitimate questions about the direction of the team?

Consistency: Paajavi's development.

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#92 tileguy
February 11 2012, 04:06PM
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Last word is mine (maybe). Writers certainly have the ability to incite panic, in fact the more panic the more papers sell? Clever writers do it slyly, "get what you can" as opposed to "what can we get".

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#93 Lawndemon
February 11 2012, 04:10PM
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Might be in the best interest of both parties for Hemsky to sign a decent value 1 or 2 year deal? Give him the chance to rebuild his status and prevents yet another hole from opening up on the Oilers roster...

Let him move on when he (and the Oilers) can get something closer to full value for his skills.

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#95 TigerUnderGlass
February 11 2012, 06:47PM
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If Gaborik got 7.5 I don't see why Hemsky can't get 5.5 on the market.

Unfortunate or not but Hemsky is already NOT an important cog. In fact all he ever really was, is an excellent complimentry player. He isn't and never really has been, minus a few exceptions, the drink stirer.

You mean except for all the years he put up almost a point a game playing with Horcoff?

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#96 Toro
February 12 2012, 12:06AM
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If the right deal isn't there why would you just give away a supposed top 6 forward on any NHL team, sign Hemsky to a 1 year deal and let him have a full year (hopefully) to show if he really wants to be an Oiler or not, I still think he's STILL recovering from his shoulder but he seems to be able to take a hit and stay in the game lately and his play has been improving if you ask me, I can just see Hemsky ripping it up being a point a game player like he is usually on pace for next year and you and everyone else who's crying to trade him bitching about how the Oilers didn't get enough for him or didn't resign him, I just don't get why ppl are hating on this guy soooo much, its not like he's the only player that can produce offence on this team, but I GUARANTEE if we trade him we will regret it

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#97 nunyour
February 12 2012, 10:48AM
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you have to trade hemsky,he will be unrestricted this summer,maybe he will see that the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence and want to come back this summer with a new attitude.

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#98 Helmethead
February 12 2012, 03:00PM
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A little late for the Prom with my reply but thought I’d give my three dollar bill opinion.

We can all agree that Hemsky has not been consistent when he’s in the line-up but in his defense, there’s a few factors we need to consider before we throw this guy under the proverbial bus. Coming back after the injuries he has suffered not only affects the physical parts of the game but also the mental aspect.

I’d be willing to forgive his performance for roughly 5 games upon returning from an injury. Say 2games to get the “legs and lungs” back and then another 3 to mentally adjust. Whether he’s dancing through the neutral zone or sweeping behind the net, he must have a fear of being hit and injured again. The expression “playing not to lose” can be changed to “playing not to get hurt” in Hemskys case.

And in all honesty, I don’t care about what Hemsky is wanting for a contract. It’s not going to sway the Oilers to trade or not trade him. Those things aren’t factors when it comes to a player of Hemskys ability.

The only way Tambo can move Hemsky with his current depleted value is to do 1 of 2 things:

1) Throw on the Herb Tarlic jacket and really sell the potential and hope a team can overlook the wonky shoulders Or 2) Sweeten the pot by adding a high draft pick, say a 2nd rounder or throw in a utility player like Peckham, Lander or even possibly……Ryan Whitney. (ducks from the plethora of veggies being hurled at him)

Either way, I agree with RB that Tambos hands are tied.

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