LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT

Lowetide
February 10 2012 05:10PM

Sometimes when people sit down to create music, everything clicks. Sometimes it does not. Oiler fans are on the home stretch of another viewing of Groundhog Day. Who should they blame? The management? The coach? The players?

FIRE THE COACH!

 

  • Don't fire the coach, he's done well. In his one season as head coach of the Edmonton Oilers, Pat Quinn's record was 27-55, ,329 winning percentage. Since Tom Renney took over from Mr. Quinn, coach Renney's won-loss is 46-90, .338. We can argue about the rebuild, etc but there's no way the won-loss record can be counted as a positive for Renney.
  • Lots of kids have made the NHL in his two seasons. Oh hell that's for sure, the Oilers buy rookies by the 6-pak every fall. I don't think you can give Renney too much credit for RNH, Hall and Eberle but will give some credit for men like Jeff Petry and Devan Dubnyk. The Oilers are giving at-bats to these kids and trying to find out if they can play, and Renney has created situations for the kids where they can flourish (when possible). I'll give a partial mark here.
  • Renney hasn't had the horses. True, that I'll give you. This season they finally got a center who could win a faceoff and added some penalty killers, plus the PP was gifted with Ryan Nugent not-of-this-world for 35 games. However, the defense had some holes (major injury concerns for Whitney dating back to the summer, plus the big UFA signing on the blue had just experienced a buyout) and there were a lot of kids again opening night.
  • Future: I don't think he stays. I would vote for retaining Renney, because in fact there's not enough talent here to expect a stronger result. I felt at the start of the season this team would finish 13th in the conference and 27th overall. Renney has them right on track.

THE GENERAL MANAGER'S OFFICE

  • He sucks! Well, that certainly is a popular refrain on the internet, but one hopes we can parse that statement with a little more literacy.
  • Blah blah blah. 30th. Okay, but let's for a minute agree that the Oilers mission statement involved improvement this season and a push for the playoffs. You know, some of the summer moves were solid bets.
  • Right. Ryan Smyth traded himself to the Oilers. That's one, but the GM also acquired Eric Belanger and most of us thought he was pretty good. Right?
  • Go to hell. Belanger is bad and that's the GM's fault! I'm just saying that if you thought it was horrible at the time then fill your hat. For me, I thought that deal was a positive. I also thought Eager would be an upgrade on Stortini and still believe that Hordichuk is better than MacIntyre. Plus Sutton and Potter worked out, at least to a certain extent.
  • So you're saying Tambellini's off-season was a success? No, that's not what I'm saying. Some of us were concerned about Cam Barker as the big off-season pickup. Ryan Whitney had injury concerns (remember when we wondered if he'd be ready for training camp?) and Barker didn't appear to be a sure thing for the top 4D. I think we can be critical of that move, and considering the relative lack of depth it's reasonable to suggest that an NHL team would have to consider it an error in judgement that cost the team dearly this season.
  • What else? I've always been critical of the idea that a team needs an enforcer at all. Eager and Hordichuk mix it up but they also cost penalties. Edmonton's PK has been very good for long stretches this season and is 12th overall, but I would prefer that the GM use those roster spots on 2-way wingers.
  • Future: The word we get is that a contract extension is about to be signed, with 2 years being the favorite term mentioned. History tells us the GM gets a longer window of opportunity, so from that point of view 2 more years makes sense. I would argue that the coach has done a better job than the GM since 2010 fall.

THE PLAYERS

One thing is certain: the Oilers are sending away a bunch of people every summer. First rounders, pet projects, guys who signed AHL contracts but got a cup of coffee--most losing teams have a long list of lost persons each year.

Have the Oilers flushed away useful players since Steve Tambellini arrived? Well, the club has waived goodbye to a few useful players like Mathieu Garon, Erik Cole, Kyle Brodziak, Lubomir Visnovsky and Dustin Penner in exchange for varying picks, prospects and talent.

I think one could argue that the club would have liked the Brodziak deal back based on how things have turned out and the Lubo trade netted Whitney but the big man has been hurt a lot. I think the players Edmonton sent away delivered on value for the most part, I'm not sure how many of the deals other NHL teams would like to reverse.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

  1. Tom Renney never had the horses and it may not matter.
  2. Steve Tambellini looks like a very lucky man.
  3. Glen Sather was a helluva horse trader.
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Reply #51 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F February 11 2012, 09:57AM
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dougtheslug wrote:

It's the mismanagement of assets that troubles me. Gilbert Brule is a case in point. Acquired for Raffi Torres, he gets sent down this year, while Anton Lander stays with the big club. In 50 games, Lander has 5 points, and clearly could have used AHL seasoning. Brule is lost to the club when he is called up and doesn't clear waivers. In 12 games with Phoenix he has ....5 points. Lost for nothing, not even a depth prospect, while Lander misses out on development. Bothersome, to say the least.

To be fair, if you go back to when Brule was cut the majority of the fan base was applauding the move because the team "rewarded the guy playing the best"

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Reply #52 raceguy February 11 2012, 10:12AM
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From what I recall Brule didn't have a very good preseason and deserved to be in the minors.

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Reply #53 TS February 11 2012, 10:58AM
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Fire Tambo. Fire Renney. Run the team by blog. Happy?

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Reply #54 bazmagoo February 11 2012, 01:33PM
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@TS

Yes!

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Reply #55 chet February 11 2012, 06:58PM
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@TS And take Lowe, Bucky, Smith, Krueger and any other old boy with you. If your rebuilding, start from scratch. WHAT A MESS!!!!

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Reply #56 dougtheslug February 11 2012, 10:20PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

To be fair, if you go back to when Brule was cut the majority of the fan base was applauding the move because the team "rewarded the guy playing the best"

I'm talking management of assets. Maybe Lander had a better training camp, but sending Brule down meant a useful asset was lost for nothing. A little foresight could have meant some necessary seasoning for Lander, and the possibility at least of a trade for Brule. Sure hindsight is 20-20 but I don't think the scenario that played out (Lander struggling, Brule playing well enough on the farm to warrant a call up and failing to clear waivers) was too difficult to predict, That's the job of the gm isn't it?

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Reply #57 TigerUnderGlass February 12 2012, 12:23AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

The Tallon stuff would seem more brilliant if it weren't for that delightful Jovanovski contract, which already looks like an albatross.

Also there's the fact that not all the players listed by DSF as Tallon acquisitions were acquired by Tallon.

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Reply #58 Used Rugs February 12 2012, 07:43AM
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book¡e wrote:

"Okay, but let's for a minute agree that the Oilers mission statement involved improvement this season and a push for the playoffs. You know, some of the summer moves were solid bets."

I don't think Tambellini wanted the playoffs, more like 20-25th. I think he is addicted to the draft after seeing Hall and RNH and wanted one more pick in what was, at the time, considered a deep draft.

I totally agree with you on the "20-25th" place finish. Oh sure, Tambellini said all the right things, made proclamations of playoff hunt hockey, and made a few low end UFA signings with the intent of improving the hockey club in weak areas. I'm done with the snake oil salesman BS.

Last year we had without a doubt the weakest defensive group in the league. How does Tambellini fix that problem? By signing other teams cast offs that have no business near a competitive top 6 defensive group.

Sutton has played very well IMO, but he's still a bottom pairing guy. There's no way Tambi thought "a injured Whitney, Smid, Gilbert, and a bunch of shots in the dark will push for the playoffs!"

If he honestly believed that, then this team will never go anywhere and he should be canned.

I don't think he truly believed that though. I'm certain the man (and maybe the entire org.) wanted another high draft pick. -sigh- fine. What's another year in the cellar right?

I don't think I can handle another year of sucking hind teet in the standings. The kids have shown they can carry the mail offensively, now would someone PLEASE instruct Tambelinni how to patch the holes around them?

Best regards,

Everyone.

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Reply #59 kim February 12 2012, 09:52AM
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renney said at the start of the year he is going to play the kids & let them learn. he put them out for a couple of 4 on 4 against san jose & they made a couple of mistakes. bring on belanger for the rest of the year-the kids must have learned enough!!!! hall takes 2 penaltys trying too hard against ottawa & he is benched for a couple of shifts. belanger takes penaltys all the time & doesnt miss a shift but still gets more ice time then the kids. hall comes back & wins game. we re still waiting for belanger to win a game or do anything !!!!!! the coaches have to go !!!!!

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