HEMSKY IN LIMBO?

Jason Gregor
February 03 2012 02:47PM

The trade deadline is 24 days away, and so far Ales Hemsky hasn't heard anything from the Oilers regarding his future with or without the team. How is this possible? Does Steve Tambellini believe that top-six forwards grow on trees, and that it will be easy to replace Hemsky? I hope not, because it is very hard to find proven point producers.

People have been speculating for months about Hemsky. Does he want to be here? Is he happy?

I'm a fan of Hemsky's abilities as a player. I've always liked his fearlessness, his ability to beat defenders one-on-one, and his elite level skill. I've always felt he could be even better, if he spent a bit more time after practice working on things, but in my eyes is a bonafide top-six forward, and for years he was the Oilers best player

You'd think they would at least approach him and gauge where is head is at regarding his future with the team.

Hemsky is a simple guy, and he is comfortable in Edmonton. He likes the city, he has lots of friends here and he's essentially grown into a man in Edmonton. If he really wasn't happy don't you think he would have asked for a trade sometime in the past three years when the team was awful, and had no other legitimate offensive threats?

He never did, and now that the Oilers have three young guns coming up, I'd like to think the Oilers would look at the 28-year-old as a part of the future, rather than ship him off for prospect and unproven potential.

It is ridiculous that the Oilers haven't approached him with anything significant to see if he'd be willing to re-sign. Maybe they will have differing opinions on terms of a new deal, but if the Oilers don't at least approach him and his agent then they have failed big-time in trying to ensure that this team becomes competitive.

Hemsky didnt' come out and say it's a guarantee he would sign here, but he would at least like to hear from management.

Here are some of the things he said earlier on my radio show today.

"The future looks bright now. We have some great young players, but I don't know what will happen. It's not in my hands right now. I haven't really talked to them, and it is up to them to come and talk to me. We have another three weeks, which really isn't a long time to do something," said Hemsky.

Would you want to stay in Edmonton for another three or four year deal, I asked.

"Of course I would like to stay, but it depends on the terms. I can't really talk about it because I haven't seen an offer yet. I like the guys here, I like the city, the fans are great and I have lots of friends here. I've always been happy here so I'd like to stay.'''

How do you feel health wise? Are your shoulders finally better, do you think you can be like Marian Gaborik and stay healthy after a few years of injuries?

"I feel like I'm just coming into my prime. I don't feel like I'm close to retiring, (laughs) I'm only 28 and I have lots of hockey in front of me. It (shoulders) was something I had to fix and there was no other way to do it, and I'm happy I did the surgery. I feel like I'll be a better player now. Of course it was a struggle with the injuries for a few years, and this year has been a bit of a struggle offensively for me, but I'm feeling much better lately. I've had some pretty good years before and I'm confident I'll be back there again."

Hemsky didnt' guarantee he'd stay here, but it was clear he would at least like to see an offer from the Oilers. He also was confident that his best years are still ahead of him.

"Whoever gets me, the Oilers or another team, will be getting the best Hemmer yet."

From my vantage point trading Hemsky will be a step backwards for this team. They could likely get a late first round pick for him, but that player won't be an impact NHLer for at least three years, if ever. Trading away a proven player who is 28 makes no sense to me, but it makes even less sense that the organization hasn't even spoken to him about an extension.

If that doesn't change in the next three weeks, and the Oilers end up trading him, then it is fair to say that the organizaton still lacks proper communication skills.

It is very possible the two sides won't be able to come to an agreement even if they offered him a deal, but to do nothing would be a mistake. It would be a major slap to the face of Hemsky to not even offer him anything reasonable. Maybe he wants four years or more, and maybe the Oilers only want to offer him two, but at least find out exactly what he wants.

If he wants to be here, and you can agree on a reasonable contract why wouldn't you keep him? Do people honestly think his best days are behind him? I sure don't.

I repeat proven top-six forwards are hard to find. I know Hemsky is struggling this season, but many guys have had off years, only to rebound the next.

Are the Oilers willing to dispatch a player who feels that is best is yet to come without as much as a contract offer? I sure hope not.

Mr. Tambellini I strongly recommend that you or someone from the organization pick up the phone and talk to Hemsky's agent. The Oilers have no one in the system who is close to putting up Hemsky-like numbers. I don't see anyone who you can confidently say is able to be a solid 2nd line right-winger behind Jordan Eberle next season.

Before you trade Hemsky at least find out if you can keep him.

You owe it to him and your fans.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#1 yawto
February 03 2012, 02:50PM
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Still don't know why we would want to trade hemmer in the fist place.

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#2 book¡e
February 03 2012, 02:55PM
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Hemsky is pouting, if he really wanted to stay here then he would say so¡

On that note - I believe that the team should have talked to him. This seems to be an ongoing problem with this management group. They fail to communicate with players effectively. Regardless of one's position, you need to come across as cordial and respectful of those you deal with. It empowers you in a lot of ways to do so. It makes no sense to not be talking to him.

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#3 TrentonL
February 03 2012, 03:01PM
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Mega props Gregor for asking him the question of weather he wants to be here instead of looking at an injured guys body language and concluding he wants out. Hemsky has said repeatedly season over season that he likes it in Edmonton and wants to stay. Could not agree more, you do not just let a scorer like Hemsky walk, especially without making every effort to make it work. Failure to approach Hemsky is another mind boggling move by Oilers management, who could have guessed that.....

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#4 Clyde Frog
February 03 2012, 03:01PM
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Especially if we are trying to end the rebuild and become a competitor.

At some point you need to actually keep talent and build on it, trading points for magic beans that may generate points is the bad habit teams have to break to leave the basement!

Auditioning half the roster every year is how you become the islanders, not the wings.

Just saying.

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#5 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
February 03 2012, 03:06PM
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Well according to Rishaug they've talked to the agent about whether or not he is interested in coming back. Whether or not they talked about a contract is a different story.

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#6 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
February 03 2012, 03:08PM
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As far as his best days. They are over. Not saying he can't be a solid top 6 player, but he'll never play a full season and very doubtful he every plays at a PPG pace unless it's over a 10 game season.

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#7 Travis Dakin
February 03 2012, 03:09PM
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Mother of GOD!!!! This is madness!!!! Sign the damn guy. He's put up with everything you've put him through. Now reward him for being a good soldier and the only reason we had anything to cheer about from 2007-2010. Dammit Tambo! TTTTTTAAAAMMMMMMBBBBOOOOOO!!!!

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#8 book¡e
February 03 2012, 03:11PM
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Yes, I agree mega-props for asking the guy as opposed to interpreting 'body language'.

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#9 Archaeologuy
February 03 2012, 03:11PM
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Wow.

I get the Oilers trading him if the return is right.

I get the Oilers trading him if he doesnt sign by the Deadline.

I get the Oilers trading him if he demands way too much money.

What I dont get, and only adds to my ever growing list of reasons to turf Tambi, is that dialogue wasnt even opened about extending Hemsky at all. 3 weeks before the Deadline and this team still doesnt know what their options are because Tambellini is too incompetent to pick up a telephone and talk with Hemsky's agent!

At least Tambellini could pretend to have weighed all the options in front of him if the phone lines were open, but this is just another example of ST sitting around doing nothing.

As badly as Hemsky has looked recently, you have to know what your options are. Tambellini looks to be putting all of his eggs in the Trade basket, and I have little confidence in him.

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#10 Eddie Shore
February 03 2012, 03:13PM
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book¡e wrote:

Hemsky is pouting, if he really wanted to stay here then he would say so¡

On that note - I believe that the team should have talked to him. This seems to be an ongoing problem with this management group. They fail to communicate with players effectively. Regardless of one's position, you need to come across as cordial and respectful of those you deal with. It empowers you in a lot of ways to do so. It makes no sense to not be talking to him.

"Of course I would like to stay, but it depends on the terms. I can't really talk about it because I haven't seen an offer yet. I like the guys here, I like the city, the fans are great and I have lots of friends here. I've always been happy here so I'd like to stay.'''

Sounds like he would stay if a reasonable contract was tendered...

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#11 Wendy01
February 03 2012, 03:13PM
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I feel a great deal of frustration over the way Oiler's management deals with their players. It isn't just Hemsky. It is the perception that this is the way all players are handled by management. Point in case; we all knew there was no way in the world they were sending RNH back to junior in the fall after his nine games and yet they let the kid sweat to the bitter end. Is it Renney? Is it Tambellini? Does it go further up the food chain? Who would know? As to Hemsky.... well I'm not one to say the team should trade him but I think they should be finding where his head is at. On the other side of things... how does a guy go -2 and no shots on a night the team gets 8 goals? Is it his linemates? Horcoff is a bust as far as I'm concerned. It must be like skating with a boat anchor tied to your a** with him as a linemate. He's either stepping on the puck or looking like Bambi on the ice! I digress! I like Hemsky. I hope they sign him and see where he goes next year. Top six guys are hard to come by.

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#12 Milli
February 03 2012, 03:20PM
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Ya, I am not a huge Hemsky fan, but dear god why wouldn't you be speaking with him and try and get something done. Make an offer, try and get a decent term with no no movement clause. It does seem nuts to let this guy walk without getting much in return

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#13 Rick
February 03 2012, 03:20PM
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You are right on with your comments. This is a major oversight by the management and, as a season ticket holder, I find their lackadaisical approach disturbing.

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#14 Oilers4ever
February 03 2012, 03:21PM
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I'll tell you why he should be traded:

1) We scored 8 goals last night and he didn't get a sniff point wise. Neither did a lot of other offensive players but for a top 6 guy, making the money he does and wanting what he will likely want come July, no points when you score 8, pathetic.

2) Reports always state last guy on the ice, first guy off. Doesn't sound like someone trying to improve his game.

3) I really believe Omark can be as good or better than Hemsky if given top 6 minutes and at a fraction of the cost. Yes, naysayers will say he has not proven that either, but Omark has never been given the chance either. Look at Gags last night.. plays with the top two wingers on the team and ka-ching. Nuff Said

4) For a guy who has spent more time on the IR than the ice in the last 4 years, he won't be worth anything more than a 1 year term at about 3 million until he proves otherwise. If there is a GM out there dumb enough to offer huge years at 5.5mill plus, let them have him. We could put the money to better things... like Hall and Ebs in another year.

If he will take a home town discount on a one year contract and prove he belongs longterm without all the sulking and such I am all for it. Otherwise, trade him for whatever you can get and move on.

Oh.. and in the other blowout against the Hawks... 9-2.. Hemmer had one point.. 17 goals.. one point. Any further questions? I thought not...

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#15 Walter Sobchak
February 03 2012, 03:24PM
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I still say coming off those injury is very hard thing to over come. Having said that I could see how a guy could get frustrated when your not complimented with like skill set. Let's see how he will play with a legit center playing beside him.

Do you honestly see Tambellini trading Hemsky for what rumors are floating out there? I do. Shame on Tambellini if he does.

IMO Hemsky is worth at least a top ten pick if he gets traded plus a top end prospect.

Still having no faith in this management team.

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#16 Milli
February 03 2012, 03:24PM
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Oh and Rishaug, I am sooo damn tired of hearing "move the asset". This is a player, his name is hemsky, he has been playing for us for years. His name is hemsky. Trade him, fine, sign him, fine. Asset? He is a player. And really, if he'd sign at the right price, why wouldn't he be here? And, maybe he has played like sh1t because this has really weighed on his mind.

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#17 LoDog
February 03 2012, 03:25PM
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Jump the gun much?

Just because the Oilers have not made any offer to Hemsky does not mean they have not talked to his agent and gauged interest.

Just giving Tambi haters a non story to pile on some more hate.

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#18 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
February 03 2012, 03:25PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

I still say coming off those injury is very hard thing to over come. Having said that I could see how a guy could get frustrated when your not complimented with like skill set. Let's see how he will play with a legit center playing beside him.

Do you honestly see Tambellini trading Hemsky for what rumors are floating out there? I do. Shame on Tambellini if he does.

IMO Hemsky is worth at least a top ten pick if he gets traded plus a top end prospect.

Still having no faith in this management team.

Good luck getting a top ten plus top end prospect.

Injury prone UFA's don't go for that.

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#19 TrentonL
February 03 2012, 03:27PM
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Oilers4ever wrote:

I'll tell you why he should be traded:

1) We scored 8 goals last night and he didn't get a sniff point wise. Neither did a lot of other offensive players but for a top 6 guy, making the money he does and wanting what he will likely want come July, no points when you score 8, pathetic.

2) Reports always state last guy on the ice, first guy off. Doesn't sound like someone trying to improve his game.

3) I really believe Omark can be as good or better than Hemsky if given top 6 minutes and at a fraction of the cost. Yes, naysayers will say he has not proven that either, but Omark has never been given the chance either. Look at Gags last night.. plays with the top two wingers on the team and ka-ching. Nuff Said

4) For a guy who has spent more time on the IR than the ice in the last 4 years, he won't be worth anything more than a 1 year term at about 3 million until he proves otherwise. If there is a GM out there dumb enough to offer huge years at 5.5mill plus, let them have him. We could put the money to better things... like Hall and Ebs in another year.

If he will take a home town discount on a one year contract and prove he belongs longterm without all the sulking and such I am all for it. Otherwise, trade him for whatever you can get and move on.

Oh.. and in the other blowout against the Hawks... 9-2.. Hemmer had one point.. 17 goals.. one point. Any further questions? I thought not...

Hemsky played against Toews all night long. Holding not getting a point in these games against him is asinine.

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#20 Sean17
February 03 2012, 03:27PM
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I think Hemsky's back check on the Sharp shortie last night sealed his fate with me. You skate all the way back to not cover the guy? Don't get me wrong, I love Hemsky's skill and ability to play that puck possession game but, if his value coming back is a top 4D then make the move. If it's picks and prospects (suspects) - keep him!

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#21 Milli
February 03 2012, 03:31PM
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Actually, listening to Rishaug just changed my mind. I think he is right.

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#22 They're $hittie
February 03 2012, 03:32PM
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TWO MAJOR PROBLEMS

1. Injuries 2. Not Justified giving him a raise, and long term is a big risk considering Eberle, RNH, Hall, and Probably Murray (if pans out) will require 6+ mill a year (on the conservative side)

Oh and that elite 2nd centerman you want isnt going to cost only 2.25 mil. With oilersnation expectations of a second line center look to pay him around 4.5 to 5.

Can Horcoff and Hemsky just switch contracts?

How good would it be if our top six forward all player good at the same time. and Horcoff was properly slotted as a 3rd line penalty kill guy.

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#23 Oilers4ever
February 03 2012, 03:36PM
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TrentonL.. with all due respect, because everyone is entitled to their opinion, if yer a top 6 guy getting paid the big bucks, you find a way to get the points. Seriously... 17 goals, 1 point and you come back with he played against Toews? What kinda crap ass excuse is that? Gagner was out against Kane most of the night and got 8 points, so what's your point? The Sedins of the world, the Datsyuks.. the Zetterbergs.. all play against top players or checkers and yet they still put up the points. There are no excuses. If Hemsky REALLY IS that good then you find a way. Don't get me wrong, he's a good player, but stop defending the guy like he's your kid or something. Point being, in comparison to other top 6 forwards of other teams around the league, he does not put up the points for what he is paid to do and he's a liability injury wise. I never said they should turf him outright. If he wants to stay and at a discount based on his production over the last couple years and his injuries then fair ball. He's good when he decides to actually play... Problem is, he doesn't come to play enough.

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#24 Jerconjake
February 03 2012, 03:36PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

As far as his best days. They are over. Not saying he can't be a solid top 6 player, but he'll never play a full season and very doubtful he every plays at a PPG pace unless it's over a 10 game season.

Based on what? A player's career doesn't end at 28, even with injuries. The skill is still there and his body will catch up eventually.

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#25 Dutchscooter
February 03 2012, 03:36PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

"Of course I would like to stay, but it depends on the terms. I can't really talk about it because I haven't seen an offer yet. I like the guys here, I like the city, the fans are great and I have lots of friends here. I've always been happy here so I'd like to stay.'''

Sounds like he would stay if a reasonable contract was tendered...

Reasonable to him or the team? Those are two different numbers.

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#26 LRemp
February 03 2012, 03:37PM
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Are you kidding me? Track record speaks for itself on the injury front. Why would anyone bet 5M per year on that changing. I agree on the draft pick, but if he can be a part of bringing a bonafide top D-man, why wouldn't you trade a band-aid? He's a nice guy and all, but judge on points per year, not points per healthy game played.

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#27 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
February 03 2012, 03:40PM
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Jerconjake wrote:

Based on what? A player's career doesn't end at 28, even with injuries. The skill is still there and his body will catch up eventually.

Let me ask you this what has Hemsky showed since 07-08 that would led you to believe that he'll be a PPG player over 80 games? Heck make it 70 as he played 74 that year.

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#28 CaptainLander
February 03 2012, 03:46PM
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As I see the the future of this young Oil team, still miss size in the top six. Getting someone with size and skill and grit of course is tough but Hemmer? I like him but it is that time in his career he expands on his role, I still think he would be good on the PK if he wanted to play there.

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#29 freeze
February 03 2012, 03:50PM
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Who has Tambo's email address? There has to be some way to get through to these fat cats! How do you not even have discussions with a top 6 RW?!

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#30 Henry
February 03 2012, 03:56PM
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Mr. Gregor, Thanks for articulating pretty much what I've been thinking for a while. Hemsky is a terrific player having an inconsistent year. Not good yesterday, very good against Vancouver (playing with Hall).

Not exploring a deal with Hemsky would be seriously incompetent for Management. Could it be that they are procrastinating on re-signing Hemsky with the Tambi and Renney decisions up in the air? Still, it makes sense to talk contract with Hemsky if only to show the teams out there bidding for a trade that the team doesn't need to trade him and they will have to pay up with real talent.

He said that he wants to stay and doesn't seem motivated by greed. If true, what's the problem?

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#31 Yzermanfan19
February 03 2012, 03:57PM
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Tambi has to at least offer him a contract, why would we get rid of a top 6 winger just so next year we can be dying to have one. You gotta at least see what a guy like Hemsky expects in a deal.

Maybe he is too focused on getting his own money.

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#32 OilFan
February 03 2012, 04:01PM
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This is the same Hemsky that leaves practice early ? Same top 6 forward that hasn't had a top 6 season in three years. 4 goal !!! I believe Steve knows what Hemsky wants (length and $) and it's smart to wait to see what the offers will be before signing him if he feels it's right for the team.

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#33 D-Man
February 03 2012, 04:02PM
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Oilers4ever wrote:

I'll tell you why he should be traded:

1) We scored 8 goals last night and he didn't get a sniff point wise. Neither did a lot of other offensive players but for a top 6 guy, making the money he does and wanting what he will likely want come July, no points when you score 8, pathetic.

2) Reports always state last guy on the ice, first guy off. Doesn't sound like someone trying to improve his game.

3) I really believe Omark can be as good or better than Hemsky if given top 6 minutes and at a fraction of the cost. Yes, naysayers will say he has not proven that either, but Omark has never been given the chance either. Look at Gags last night.. plays with the top two wingers on the team and ka-ching. Nuff Said

4) For a guy who has spent more time on the IR than the ice in the last 4 years, he won't be worth anything more than a 1 year term at about 3 million until he proves otherwise. If there is a GM out there dumb enough to offer huge years at 5.5mill plus, let them have him. We could put the money to better things... like Hall and Ebs in another year.

If he will take a home town discount on a one year contract and prove he belongs longterm without all the sulking and such I am all for it. Otherwise, trade him for whatever you can get and move on.

Oh.. and in the other blowout against the Hawks... 9-2.. Hemmer had one point.. 17 goals.. one point. Any further questions? I thought not...

Omark is not as good and is unproven... He hasn't done anything to show he's a top 6 forward in the NHL... He's also coming off of a broken ankle. That's a huge risk in assuming Omark might fit that role...

We still don't have the depth in our top six to trade Hemmer... And I've been on record before saying that I'd sign Hemmer to a 2 year $4.5 - $5.0 million dollar/year deal... When healthy and granted a big IF, he'd be a spectacular complementary player... Now - if we could somehow get another top-4 d-man for him (which I doubt), then I'm all for considering a trade...

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#34 Zamboni Driver
February 03 2012, 04:06PM
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Wow.

Matheson. Jones. Chubey. even Brownlee have to got to be cringing right now.

Not only because the Tin Man finally spoke (not to them) - but that the reporter ran to the public without any verification.

To suggest that the Oilers have NEVER made an overture to Hemsky is ridiculous. And, believe me, I'm no fan of the 'Braintrust' at all...even they are not this dull.

When it comes down to it, Hemsky is a business asset. To suggest they would NEVER approach him, as far back as this time last year is patently foolish.

Congrats, I guess Jason. Mr. Hemsky and his agent are, I'm sure, thrilled.

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#35 Joels
February 03 2012, 04:08PM
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Hemsky for Nikolai Kulemin.

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#36 db7db7db7
February 03 2012, 04:10PM
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I think management should have at least asked Hemmer what he's looking to get out of a deal. However, I agree that they should hold off on making him an offer, just to see what other GM's are willing to offer and compare that with Hemmer's request.

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#37 joels
February 03 2012, 04:14PM
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Sam Gagner for Martin Hanzal

Hemsky for Nikolai Kulemin

I would be happy.

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#38 DieHard
February 03 2012, 04:15PM
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So why not trade him for the best and brightest shiny new bobbles and then on July 1st when he becomes a UFA (presumably) we make him an offer.

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#39 Millertime
February 03 2012, 04:19PM
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D-Man wrote:

Omark is not as good and is unproven... He hasn't done anything to show he's a top 6 forward in the NHL... He's also coming off of a broken ankle. That's a huge risk in assuming Omark might fit that role...

We still don't have the depth in our top six to trade Hemmer... And I've been on record before saying that I'd sign Hemmer to a 2 year $4.5 - $5.0 million dollar/year deal... When healthy and granted a big IF, he'd be a spectacular complementary player... Now - if we could somehow get another top-4 d-man for him (which I doubt), then I'm all for considering a trade...

If I'm Tambo, evaluating Omark's recovery between now and the deadline will be a huge factor on what I offer Hemsky.

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#40 Chris
February 03 2012, 04:21PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Let me ask you this what has Hemsky showed since 07-08 that would led you to believe that he'll be a PPG player over 80 games? Heck make it 70 as he played 74 that year.

So whats your point? That he isn't a PPG player so therefore is no good?

In 2010-2011 if he got 69pts he would have been 25th in entire league scoring.

There were 7 PPG players in the entire league. SEVEN.

So you are saying that because he isn't in the top 7 in the entire league he should be turfed for some other teams AHL castoff prospect?

Even if he got 60pts he is still a top 6 fwd on ANY team in the NHL. Any.

If you think Omark can be a top 10 NHL player in this league I'd like some of what you are smoking.

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#41 Oilers4ever
February 03 2012, 04:26PM
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Agreed DMan on Omark and I did state that the "naysayers" would say he has proven nothing.. but Gags was the same till he played with Hall and Ebs last night... if he doesn't play with those two.. he doesn't get 8 points.. its all in the people you play with as well... If you had RNH-Ebs-? and Gagner-Hall-? and you put Omark in either of the "?" positions.. I 110% guarantee you that Omark would get the points... Hall, Ebs, and RNH make everyone around them that much better....

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#42 Scott in Grande Prairie
February 03 2012, 04:28PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Wow.

I get the Oilers trading him if the return is right.

I get the Oilers trading him if he doesnt sign by the Deadline.

I get the Oilers trading him if he demands way too much money.

What I dont get, and only adds to my ever growing list of reasons to turf Tambi, is that dialogue wasnt even opened about extending Hemsky at all. 3 weeks before the Deadline and this team still doesnt know what their options are because Tambellini is too incompetent to pick up a telephone and talk with Hemsky's agent!

At least Tambellini could pretend to have weighed all the options in front of him if the phone lines were open, but this is just another example of ST sitting around doing nothing.

As badly as Hemsky has looked recently, you have to know what your options are. Tambellini looks to be putting all of his eggs in the Trade basket, and I have little confidence in him.

Um, OK.

So where in Gregor's interview does it indicate that "this team still doesn't know what their options are ..." or is "sitting around doing nothing."

I see a quote in the interview in which Hemsky is saying that he hasn't heard from Tambo on an extension, but I'm not quite sure how you could divine a lack-of-plan out from that on the Oilers' end of things.

Why can't the plan be this: See how Hemsky plays in the months and weeks leading up to the deadline and entertain offers at the deadline. If one knocks your socks off, great. If not, c'est la vie.

My guess is that you actually believe that Hemsky and his agent would seriously consider NOT testing the free agent market on July 1.

If so, then, well ... sigh.

Did Curtis Joseph teach you nothing? Or any of the other unrestricted free agents who said all the right things before the trade-deadline but signed with a new team at 12:01 a.m. on July 1?

I have no way of proving this, but I'm just going to go on a hunch and assert this anyway: Any offer that Tambo would make to extend Hemsky between now and Feb. 27 (or, if you like, between last fall's training camp and Feb. 27) would be received thusly by his agent: Thank you for this, Steve. We'll get back to you on July 1, yea or nay.

The far more efficient and prudent move for right now - Friday, Feb. 3 - is to let the player and the trade market do their thing.

But to misinterpret a lack of a contract offer as some sort of lack of plan, well, that's a little naive coming from a fan base that's been burned by plenty of unrestricteds over the years.

Or, I not "getting" something?

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#43 Jays
February 03 2012, 04:32PM
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Give Hemmer a 2 year contract. At a fair price, keeping in mind we have to sign Hall and Ebs next year. If IF he can stay healthy in those 2 years sign him long term at a more cap friendly price. But if he spends a majority of those years on the IR, do we really need him going forward? The Oilers have to be fair to Hemmer as he has been the face of the franchise in some of our worst years, but Hemmer has to be fair to the Oilers too. Does he really think he should be paid top dollar to ride the pine all year?

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#44 TrentonL
February 03 2012, 04:34PM
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TrentonL.. with all due respect, because everyone is entitled to their opinion, if yer a top 6 guy getting paid the big bucks, you find a way to get the points. Seriously... 17 goals, 1 point and you come back with he played against Toews? What kinda crap ass excuse is that? Gagner was out against Kane most of the night and got 8 points, so what's your point? The Sedins of the world, the Datsyuks.. the Zetterbergs.. all play against top players or checkers and yet they still put up the points. There are no excuses. If Hemsky REALLY IS that good then you find a way. Don't get me wrong, he's a good player, but stop defending the guy like he's your kid or something. Point being, in comparison to other top 6 forwards of other teams around the league, he does not put up the points for what he is paid to do and he's a liability injury wise. I never said they should turf him outright. If he wants to stay and at a discount based on his production over the last couple years and his injuries then fair ball. He's good when he decides to actually play... Problem is, he doesn't come to play enough.

Here is your excuse, the guy has been recovering from shoulder surgery most of the year and is still putting up a point every 2 games. By your logic the Penguins should dump Crosby as he has played even less games than Hemsky in the last 2 years.

Newsflash buddy, Gagner is not going to put up 8 points every game. Hall/Eberle/RNH will not score a point every game. Hemsky has put up 5 point nights when other guys were shut-out as well.

In his last 85 games, Hemsky has put up 62 points while playing hurt in half the games. That would put him just outside the top 30 scorers last year. You are right though he is not a top 6 forward.....

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#45 Lofty
February 03 2012, 04:34PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

Mother of GOD!!!! This is madness!!!! Sign the damn guy. He's put up with everything you've put him through. Now reward him for being a good soldier and the only reason we had anything to cheer about from 2007-2010. Dammit Tambo! TTTTTTAAAAMMMMMMBBBBOOOOOO!!!!

Dakin you made the first page of CBS's hockey page!

http://eye-on-hockey.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/27694626/34683475

Didn't there used to be a score and win thing that would give a million bucks if an oiled scored 4 goals in a game?

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#46 Rama Lama
February 03 2012, 04:35PM
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What I find absolutely confunding, is that there are STILL fans that support this over-rated has been.

Yes he had some good years, so freking what? If Hemsky wanted to be signed I would suggest his play would indicate that notion. Instead we get a lazy, pouting, shy, ( oh Im still hurt ) shade of his former self, guy who seems as engaged as monkey at a MENSA meeting!

For all those of you who continue to support this has been, when exactly are you going to embrace reality?

It's time to, "cut our losses", with this player who need a change as much as we do!!!

Bye bye Hemsky, take your pouting to some other team.

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#47 magisterrex
February 03 2012, 04:35PM
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We've been waiting for Hemsky to be the superstar winger for years. It's just not happening. He's got some moves for any team that hasn't figured out how to play him. After that it's "watch the play die on Hemmer's stick" night.

He's a good 2nd line winger, but he's looking for 1st line money. Forget it. That "value contract" that everyone applauded has turned out to be an overpayment.

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#48 Druds
February 03 2012, 04:45PM
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So let me get this straight...Hemmer has played like crap or not played at all the last three years and we should be running to him on our knees offering him 4-5Million ???!! just because he was such a good trooper 4 years ago...isnt that how we ended up paying horcoff 5.5 million forever? Hemsky has shown through his play and his attitude that his days are done. What would that say to the young guys...oh you just have to stay here and like the city and you will get a guaranteed 4 million ...playing good is optional?

Stupid

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#49 JD_06
February 03 2012, 04:52PM
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I certainly think that Hemsky has top six talent. But if he really wants a contract or even an offer then he's really gotta play like it! I watch him and I don't see the effort or the intensity. Every hockey player, especially highly skilled players have scoring droughts. But when you're in these droughts put you're head down and do the hard work (work harder defensively, dig in the corners, got to the net and crash and bang, and in Hemsky's case, SHOOT when you're in position). I'm not doubting Hemsky's skill but what I do doubt is his effort, which if you look closely is something that stands out. This goes double for often injured players (which I believe applies to Hemsky). Whether he wants a contract or a trade he just needs to look more like he actually gives a s**t on the ice.

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#50 Mark-LW
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Oilers4ever wrote:

TrentonL.. with all due respect, because everyone is entitled to their opinion, if yer a top 6 guy getting paid the big bucks, you find a way to get the points. Seriously... 17 goals, 1 point and you come back with he played against Toews? What kinda crap ass excuse is that? Gagner was out against Kane most of the night and got 8 points, so what's your point? The Sedins of the world, the Datsyuks.. the Zetterbergs.. all play against top players or checkers and yet they still put up the points. There are no excuses. If Hemsky REALLY IS that good then you find a way. Don't get me wrong, he's a good player, but stop defending the guy like he's your kid or something. Point being, in comparison to other top 6 forwards of other teams around the league, he does not put up the points for what he is paid to do and he's a liability injury wise. I never said they should turf him outright. If he wants to stay and at a discount based on his production over the last couple years and his injuries then fair ball. He's good when he decides to actually play... Problem is, he doesn't come to play enough.

If by "Gagner was out against Kane most of the night" you mean that he was out against Kane for 1.6 minutes then you are correct.

Hemsky was out most often against Keith, Toews, Kane and Seabrook in that order.

"Problem is" your entire post.

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