Hurry Linus

Lowetide
February 04 2012 08:25AM

Linus Omark may be the most qualified player in the Edmonton system to replace Ales Hemsky. 

At this point it is difficult to see what the Oilers have planned for RW moving forward. Some things are becoming more clear, however;Jason Gregor's article yesterdaywas very revealing in regard to 83's future with the team, the strongest indicator we've seen so far that the young Czech is headed elsewhere.

Which isn't to say there is no time left to sign Hemsky. However, with the knowledge we have currently it is completely reasonable to suggest the Oilers management group have indeed sussed out their options at RW with Hemsky out f the picture.

What does that look like?

I'm not going to lie, it isn't pretty. The Oilers RWers for skill lines sans Hemsky might look like this:

  • Jordan Eberle 47, 20-30-50
  • Ryan Jones 51, 12-10-22
  • Magnus Paajarvi 33, 0-4-4
  • Teemu Hartikainen 5, 0-0-0
  • Linus Omark 5, 0-0-0 (injured, likely back with OKC by next weekend)

You could argue Gagner can play that position but center appears to be his strength. So, if the Oilers offload Hemsky at the deadline, which of these young men will get the push?

Jones is the safest bet, an NHL player whose offense has vanished (he's not alone) of late (0-2-2 in his last 10 games). Paajarvi performed well last winter when he got the push, but honestly keeping him in the AHL for the rest of the season might be the better plan. Hartikainen is an interesting option because he has size and is effective down low in battles but has not established himself in this year's look-see like he did last season when recalled from the farm. 

Omark is an exceptional skill player, a slow start and an injury have him well down the depth chart. He's an older player compared to someone like Paajarvi, and a Hemsky deal might be his last best chance.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

A year ago, all of the options we're discussing (Omark, Hartikainen, Paajarvi) performed well at the NHL level. This season has been a different story for the three Euro's and I think Edmonton may hold open auditions for 2line RW using all of them plus Ryan Jones after the deadline.

That's if the Oilers trade Hemsky. Ryan Rishaug's tweet last night in regard to conversations between the two sides offers some hope, but I believe Jason Gregor caught the spirit of the situation covered in his article on Oilers Nation yesterday.

Good organizations have viable options waiting in the wings when dealing off notable talent. I'm not certain the Oilers can say they have the 'Hemsky slot' covered from within at this time.

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#1 OilBomber
February 04 2012, 08:36AM
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LT, I completely agree. The Oilers don't seem to have any sort of succession plan at right wing (or any sort of plan that involves veteran players outside of a defensive forward type of role).

Does anyone else think this is a little short sighted?

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#2 ItsTheBGB
February 04 2012, 08:41AM
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I bet Linus could replace Hemmer on the power play easily. Hemmer seems to slow things down too much. What's his PPP/60????

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#3 Terran
February 04 2012, 08:52AM
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I'm sorry, was there an article here? All I saw was my lovely Salma

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#4 A-Mc
February 04 2012, 09:01AM
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I read that Linus is hitting the gym and taking some things seriously. In all honesty, results aside, I would rather see Linus out there than hemsky most days based on effort alone.

Having both would be A-ok with me but if it's going to cost us 4-5m/yr to have hemmer around, I just don't see that being a good signing. I we do keep hemsky around for a while maybe Renney can mandate he take hypnotherapy to cure his no-shoot condition.

Can't wait to see Linus back in action, I'm disappointed that it won't be until next season though (if he doesn't get traded).

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#5 Captain Obvious
February 04 2012, 09:03AM
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LT, I really hope that the brain trust have seen something more in Linus than the masses have. There is no arguing that the kid has skill, I only question his overall complete and lack of a complete game.

When Hemsky was playing like the player we dearly miss, before the last few injuries, he was responsible defensively and you could rely on him playing tough minutes with the likes of 3 years ago Horcoff. I don't see that yet from Linus. Can he round into shape? Maybe, but he isn't 21 and still adjusting to the pros. He was playing pro prior to coming here. I hope my pessimism is proven wrong as I dont see anyone else right now who can ate up. Jones will definitely be in a bit over his head long term, great short term stop gap though.

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#6 A-Mc
February 04 2012, 09:07AM
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One issue I see the oilers have is puck possession after we've done the chip an chase. Unless its one of the kids who chase it, our other guys don't seem to win the 1-1 and therefore we don't setup the offensive attack.

If there is one thing omark is good at, it's beating guys 1-1 and playing keep away. I think that skill alone could really help with our attack game.

Hemsky tries to do this but I don't think he is very good at it.

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#7 Archaeologuy
February 04 2012, 09:08AM
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Replacing a real talent like Hemsky, who has a long history of playing and producing against top players, with Linus Omark makes me sad.

I hope we can fill other more pressing needs with what we get for Hemsky. If we fail to do that then we're moving backwards.

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#8 dohfOs
February 04 2012, 09:16AM
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Headline kind of nailed it for me. HURRY LINUS!

..and he'll be back this Thursday. He's a slow starter though so might struggle a bit for the first week or so but he'll be good. Personally, I'm hoping he's back with the Oil post trade deadline at the latest.

I know Archaeologuy secretly agrees with me.

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#9 A-Mc
February 04 2012, 09:16AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Replacing a real talent like Hemsky, who has a long history of playing and producing against top players, with Linus Omark makes me sad.

I hope we can fill other more pressing needs with what we get for Hemsky. If we fail to do that then we're moving backwards.

Looking at hemsky since he started getting injured: do you really see a top talent there? What about this season even?

Question: if we sign hemsky for 1 more year and in that year he stays healthy but he plays like he has played this season. Would you keep him @4-5m/yr when it came time to make a new 3-4yr contract?

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#10 1manwolfpack
February 04 2012, 09:23AM
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I'd prefer to see Linus in Hemsky's spot if and when something happens.Hopefully he can get back in the OKC lineup soon and earn a call up

Impeccable taste, LT! Selma has always been high on my list! Her "scenes" in Desperado will forever be burned in my mind. As will any pic of her in that Frida unibrow outfit.

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#11 OilFan
February 04 2012, 09:30AM
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It's funny all the kool aid drinking on the nation regarding there prospects and you all right O'mark off ?

I read everyones comments months ago about Hemsky leaving practice early etc now we have to keep him ? Hensky is on psce for just over 30 points this season, is that hard to replace ? >

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#12 russ99
February 04 2012, 09:30AM
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@1manwolfpack

My concerns are:

1) Renney puts Omark back on a line with Belanger thus cutting any chance of him contributing offensively.

2) The Oilers could still move Omark, with RFA waiting for him in the offseason.

Don't want to see another Miro Satan deal, the Oilers need to give Linus a shot with the skill lines.

Also, he's going to need at least 5 games in the AHL to get back up to speed after a broken ankle.

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#13 Archaeologuy
February 04 2012, 09:31AM
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@A-Mc

The talent is there. He's just starting to feel healthy again. He's at his worst now and still produces more than Omark. I'd make the gamble that he'd return to form sooner than Omark could elevate his game to a place he's never been.

But the writing is on the wall. Hemsky is as good as gone. I just hope we can get a part that we need for him. If we dont then we just lost a 2RW for nothing, and that position gets added to the long list of Oiler needs.

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#14 michael
February 04 2012, 09:31AM
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Linus Omark is at the precipice of becoming an NHL never was. He needs to come back strong,focused and determined. He of all of the prosects in the Oilers farm system has the skill to play as a top 6 forward. Does he have the heart? Does he have the guts night in and night out? If the Oilers and Hemsky part ways we will find out sooner rather than later. I want him to succeed. I want him to bring that swagger of his and back it up with points. He is probably sitting on his couch in OKC and just chomping at the bit after the Gagner onslaught. Omark could be "the guy". The question is does he want to do what it takes to be that guy. I hope he does. He is a hell of an enetertaining player to watch on the ice.Cowboy up Omark and get ready for a ride of a lifetime.

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#15 A-Mc
February 04 2012, 09:44AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

The talent is there. He's just starting to feel healthy again. He's at his worst now and still produces more than Omark. I'd make the gamble that he'd return to form sooner than Omark could elevate his game to a place he's never been.

But the writing is on the wall. Hemsky is as good as gone. I just hope we can get a part that we need for him. If we dont then we just lost a 2RW for nothing, and that position gets added to the long list of Oiler needs.

To be fair, omark wasn't given much of a chance this season due to contract limitations. If we had omark and hemsky up in the NHL right now, I think hemsky would produce more. But the kicker for me is the price tag that comes with a hemmer contract. If omark can be 80% of what hemsky is but with a significantly lower price tag, I'd take that deal all day. I want lots of $$ room when hall/ebs/RNH are up for real contracts because those boys we cannot afford to lose.

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#16 knobby
February 04 2012, 09:47AM
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Omark and Hemsky both march to the beat of their own drum. That makes it hard if not impossible to get either of them to buy in to any system.

Whoever it is they slot in, whether it be Omark, Harti or whomever the Oil are going to have to put them in a position to succeed. Don't put them with the Horc-line or Belanger. Put them with some talent and leave them there for a few games and give them a fair shot. The Oil aren't famous for patience.

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#17 Rama Lama
February 04 2012, 09:47AM
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The Hemsky era is over or should be over. If in my job sales dipped three years in a row and I never came to work and put in an honest days work........I suspect I would be fired!

Hemsky has been eclipsed by all of the younger players and considering he is in the prime of his career, he should be producing plain and simple. No more excuses, we have heard too many of them; his shoulders are bad, he has no one to play with, he has no real center man to play with in years, he has a headache, people say mean things about him, his feeling are hurt........who cares?

This guy for the past three years has no game and the play always dies on his stick!

Let's trade the bum!

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#18 Archaeologuy
February 04 2012, 09:52AM
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@A-Mc

Money certainly will play into the decision. I just wished the Oilers had bothered to see exactly what kind of money they would need to spend to retain him.

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#19 A-Mc
February 04 2012, 10:00AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Money certainly will play into the decision. I just wished the Oilers had bothered to see exactly what kind of money they would need to spend to retain him.

Very true. Something is weird there. Perhaps the oilers brass don't want any part of the 4.1m hemmer is making now. Although he doesn't need to be re-signed for quite a while yet.

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#20 filthymotherpucker
February 04 2012, 10:05AM
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Ok I'm pretty sure a pylon could acheive more than hemsky right now. He's gotta go while we can get something for him. He is exactly what the old Oilers were about. Its time to keep moving forward and bring in someone who looks like he actually wants a job in the NHL. Hemsky has been ann eyesore all year long and looks like he'd rather be a figure skater than a hockey player.

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#21 Senator Theo
February 04 2012, 10:06AM
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I still prefer to say, "Lee-nus".

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#22 Jimmer
February 04 2012, 10:09AM
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Does this team need a $4M Hemsky or a $4M Top 4 d-man that can move the puck?

Bottom line is how can you afford RNH, Hall, and Eberle if they all get paid between $5-6M each plus whomever we take in this year's draft plus a $4M Hemsky. Doesn't leave a lot of cap space...even if it contiues to rise a bit.

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#23 Romulus' Apotheosis
February 04 2012, 10:34AM
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~I love to throw away valuable things~

Couple of questions:

$$ - what do you expect to pay a top 6 guy in the NHL?? - If you think you can discount the price you are either: 1) trading proven talent for ??? like Omark, or 2) living in a dream land

how many top forwards does a team need to be successful? - It's not so much that the Hemsky detractors don't like Hemsky, it's that they can't count up to 6.

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#24 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
February 04 2012, 10:59AM
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Kool aid and Selma for breakfast.

At this point, I think Omark has a better chance of developing into a solid NHLer than MPS. Having said that, neither one of them can even come close to what Hemsky brings. I hope they sign this guy.

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#25 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
February 04 2012, 11:03AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

~I love to throw away valuable things~

Couple of questions:

$$ - what do you expect to pay a top 6 guy in the NHL?? - If you think you can discount the price you are either: 1) trading proven talent for ??? like Omark, or 2) living in a dream land

how many top forwards does a team need to be successful? - It's not so much that the Hemsky detractors don't like Hemsky, it's that they can't count up to 6.

You suppose the same guys who wants to trade Hemsky are the same guys who criticize management for getting rid of guys like Satan, Cleary, Whitney?

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#26 Bucknuck
February 04 2012, 11:14AM
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The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33 wrote:

You suppose the same guys who wants to trade Hemsky are the same guys who criticize management for getting rid of guys like Satan, Cleary, Whitney?

It could be, but I would argue that Satan, Cleary, and Whitney were all traded before they showed what they can do. Trading Gagner would be more similar to those names than trading Hemsky.

Hemsky has been in the league for ten years. He's a proven talent and can be counted upon for good offence when he is healthy, which hasn't been often lately.

What I find interesting are the things not being said about Hemsky. They don't talk about his work ethic, or his leadership, or his presence in the room. If you are going to pay a veteran good coin to be in a young team, he should be providing some of those items, no?

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#27 Clarko
February 04 2012, 11:37AM
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Rama Lama wrote:

The Hemsky era is over or should be over. If in my job sales dipped three years in a row and I never came to work and put in an honest days work........I suspect I would be fired!

Hemsky has been eclipsed by all of the younger players and considering he is in the prime of his career, he should be producing plain and simple. No more excuses, we have heard too many of them; his shoulders are bad, he has no one to play with, he has no real center man to play with in years, he has a headache, people say mean things about him, his feeling are hurt........who cares?

This guy for the past three years has no game and the play always dies on his stick!

Let's trade the bum!

LOL!!! Yeah, his 84 points in 107 games over the last 3 seasons (including his numbers this year) is TERRIBLE!!! Throw him out!

Injuries does not equal excuses! They are very real and I don't blame any player in the NHL for having injury issues. If anything, I suppose you can say he has been too aggressive at times which has made him somewhat vulnerable to injuries.

Like Gregor said, top 6 forwards do not grow on trees. As it stands now, we could have two legitimate scoring lines. Tonight we might see Hall-Gagner-Eberle, Smyth-Nuge-Hemsky. That looks pretty good to me.

The other issue is the gross mismanagement by the Oilers. They should have been negotiating this contract extension over a year ago. Even if you plan on trading him, it would have raised his trade value substantially. Instead we will lose him for pennies on the dollar if we trade him now, or lose him for nothing if he goes to free agency.

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#28 book¡e
February 04 2012, 11:49AM
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When does Linus leave the ice after practice?

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#29 Clarko
February 04 2012, 11:52AM
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Lets not forget how well the team has been playing lately with all the players coming off of injuries. We will get Nugent-Hopkins back tonight and Gilbert isn't far behind. The Oilers have collected 7 out of 8 points against some very good competition over the last 4 games.

My question is, do you mess with this lineup if they start playing like a playoff team over the next 3 weeks. I'm not suggesting they will make the playoffs (too far back at this point), but this team might look great with everybody back in the lineup.

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#30 @NateInVegas
February 04 2012, 12:01PM
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Jimmer wrote:

Does this team need a $4M Hemsky or a $4M Top 4 d-man that can move the puck?

Bottom line is how can you afford RNH, Hall, and Eberle if they all get paid between $5-6M each plus whomever we take in this year's draft plus a $4M Hemsky. Doesn't leave a lot of cap space...even if it contiues to rise a bit.

Say the Oilers sign Hall, RNH, Eberle for $6 million and this year's 1st gets $4million, that's $22million for their core. Edmonton has plenty of cap space even at this price range. Ryan Smyth won't make $6.25 moving forward, so $4million for Hemsky's fine, but for how many years?

Chicago- $21.7 for Toews, Kane, Hossa, and Sharp. With room for Keith-Seabrook at $11 million.

Vancouver- $22.5 for Sedin, Sedin, Kesler, and Luongo.

Pens-$26.4 for Malkin, Crosby, Stall, and Fleury

LA- $23.8 for Kopitar, Richards, Doughty, and Johnson.

I think the Oilers would like to change the dynamic of their forwards. A Lucic, Stewart, or Benn type winger and they'll have plenty of cap space to sign a couple defenseman.

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#31 CJ
February 04 2012, 12:05PM
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For all of those people wanting to replace Hemsky because he is injury prone , where do you think Omark has been for the past two months. When Hemsky was on his game, he was a 0.9 ppg player in the NHL. Omark's last year in the KHL was 0.6 ppg. Oh yeah, he turns 25 this month. He is not a replacement for Hemsky on RW.

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#32 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 04 2012, 12:06PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

The Hemsky era is over or should be over. If in my job sales dipped three years in a row and I never came to work and put in an honest days work........I suspect I would be fired!

Hemsky has been eclipsed by all of the younger players and considering he is in the prime of his career, he should be producing plain and simple. No more excuses, we have heard too many of them; his shoulders are bad, he has no one to play with, he has no real center man to play with in years, he has a headache, people say mean things about him, his feeling are hurt........who cares?

This guy for the past three years has no game and the play always dies on his stick!

Let's trade the bum!

The above exemplifies everything that is wrong with Oiler fans.

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#33 Tha Legion
February 04 2012, 12:17PM
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I read this article naked #stillnotasbossastravisdakin

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#34 Rama Lama
February 04 2012, 12:22PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

~I love to throw away valuable things~

Couple of questions:

$$ - what do you expect to pay a top 6 guy in the NHL?? - If you think you can discount the price you are either: 1) trading proven talent for ??? like Omark, or 2) living in a dream land

how many top forwards does a team need to be successful? - It's not so much that the Hemsky detractors don't like Hemsky, it's that they can't count up to 6.

Really.......are you serious man? I think that you should start a Hemsky Fan Club and sign up guys like Gregor! Im starting to think that you dont watch any Oiler games.

Even people like you will eventually come to reality on Hemsky!

His play has dictated his support and right now most people see him for what he is........a has been!

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#35 Rama Lama
February 04 2012, 12:24PM
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Stop obsessing with Hemsky.......take down the Hemsky posters on your wall man!

Im and Oiler fan.............NOT a Hemsky fan. Its too bad you cant understand that, I feel sorry for you.

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#36 Rama Lama
February 04 2012, 12:29PM
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Clarko......just when do you predict Hensky will bounce back?

83 points and most of these are secondary assists......who cares?

I suspect that Hemsky will eventually stop pouting and start producing......we have all been waiting for that and it never seems to come. I dont want another Horcoff contract on this team and be stuck with this crybaby for another 6 years.

Watch the young guys the are the future NOT Hemsky, Horcoff, Smyth......sorry but reality bites!

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#37 etownman
February 04 2012, 12:29PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Replacing a real talent like Hemsky, who has a long history of playing and producing against top players, with Linus Omark makes me sad.

I hope we can fill other more pressing needs with what we get for Hemsky. If we fail to do that then we're moving backwards.

I think Omark or Paajarvi could easily fill the void of Hemsky's departure & contribute more than what Hemmer has done over the last two years! If LO or MPS get the ice time Hemsky has been given they will produce! Too much talent there not to! They just need to play!

I would hate to see the Oilers offer the kind of dollars Ales will command & the term & then wonder how many games the team gets out of him during the year? No thanks!

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#38 oilbaron
February 04 2012, 12:34PM
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Nail sure would look nice playing along side sam. #imjustsayn

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#39 etownman
February 04 2012, 12:40PM
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Hemsky supporters focus strictly on his point totals, which are mediocre at best for a 'top 6 elite' talent! What about the rest of his game? He's soft, very brittle & temperamental & these are just the things I can see from the outside! Move on, get some size & grit with some talent (doesn't have to be elite) to play with our skilled young guys!

I will also say this, the character & determination of our young guys is very encouraging because Hemmer has not handled there appearance on the scene very well! It's had a polarizing effect on Hemmer!

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#40 a lg dubl dubl
February 04 2012, 12:43PM
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oilbaron wrote:

Nail sure would look nice playing along side sam. #imjustsayn

Speaking of Nail, I heard he got suspended for 2 games because he missed the young stars game. Curious to know why he did that?

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#41 Saytalk
February 04 2012, 12:46PM
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So if you're a 28 year old winger with a proven track record of producing in the NHL, but having a down year while recovering from an injury, then you're a lazy bum that should be traded.

But if you're a 24 year old winger with a poor record of producing in the NHL, and having a down year while recovering from an injury, then you're a great prospect that should be the second line RW?

I can buy the argument that Hemsky should be traded on the basis of managing the salary cap for the long term, but please stop this baloney about how Omark is a hard worker or how he is great at playing a puck possession game. Replacing a lazy talent with a lazy minor leaguer doesn't constitute a rebuild.

Put Jones or Hartakainen in that spot, at least their size and physical play would give us a more balanced lineup.

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#42 Romanus
February 04 2012, 12:56PM
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@etownman

-Paajarvi has definitely proven he can do it.

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#43 Butters
February 04 2012, 01:07PM
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I found the Gregor interview of Hemsky disturbing. It did not appear that Tambellini bothered to talk to Ales about what Ales wanted to do. I think he deserves that courtesy. Maybe asset management might include taking Ales and his girlfriend out for dinner and a sit down.

Also, I cannot, barring a freak injury season or lockout, see the Oilers being a lottery team next year. In fact, I am not sure they are going to be one this year. So maybe time to keep some pieces?

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#44 Crash
February 04 2012, 01:09PM
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Saytalk wrote:

So if you're a 28 year old winger with a proven track record of producing in the NHL, but having a down year while recovering from an injury, then you're a lazy bum that should be traded.

But if you're a 24 year old winger with a poor record of producing in the NHL, and having a down year while recovering from an injury, then you're a great prospect that should be the second line RW?

I can buy the argument that Hemsky should be traded on the basis of managing the salary cap for the long term, but please stop this baloney about how Omark is a hard worker or how he is great at playing a puck possession game. Replacing a lazy talent with a lazy minor leaguer doesn't constitute a rebuild.

Put Jones or Hartakainen in that spot, at least their size and physical play would give us a more balanced lineup.

If you're a 24 yr old forward and are still floundering around in the AHL your chances of making any sort of impact at the NHL level are very slim at best.

Good point on Hemsky just having a down year....coming off two straight years in which he had to have both shoulders repaired you could probably expect a player to not quite be himself and for it to take a bit of time to gain enough confidence to get back to form.

Come this time next year one of the Oilers biggest needs will be secondary scoring and we'll be wondering why we traded Hemsky as he'll likely be back to full strength next season with his contract situation settled. He's also only 28 yrs old...far from a has been. The player has been our best player for a long time and has gone to the wall for this team time and time again....that's why he's been injured the last couple of years. It's no wonder players don't want to play in these fish bowl situations with the reaction of some of the fans and some of the media to a down year.

Trading Hemsky is not going to address any needs in the present...it will be more late round picks and/or prospects that we hope can turn into something down the road. At this point PRV is the only player who has a chance of becoming a Hemsky...Omark stands a better chance of being in Europe next year than he does of replacing Hemsky.

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#45 bazmagoo
February 04 2012, 01:12PM
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Omark and Paajarvi have certainly not proven they can be top 6 guys, but they deserve a shot to prove themselves. Would rather give them an audition than play a guy who has quit on the team mentally. Even on a rec league team it's hard to not be affected by someone who has quit on the team.

I loved Hemmer during the 2006 playoff run and it could come back to haunt us but I think it's time to go our seperate ways.

Ales, it's not you it's us. We just need a little space and hope that we can still be friends. You have been a fantastic player and will make some other team happy, it's just not working on our team. No hard feelings.

A mid level prospect and a 1st, or a high level prospect and a 2nd. We will get it at the deadline, too much money to be made by a team getting an extra round or two in the playoffs and Hemsky has proven pedigree. Detroit might not want him but someone will.

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#46 Clarko
February 04 2012, 01:15PM
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Clarko......just when do you predict Hensky will bounce back?

83 points and most of these are secondary assists......who cares?

I suspect that Hemsky will eventually stop pouting and start producing......we have all been waiting for that and it never seems to come. I dont want another Horcoff contract on this team and be stuck with this crybaby for another 6 years.

Watch the young guys the are the future NOT Hemsky, Horcoff, Smyth......sorry but reality bites!

Secondary assists? Please provide evidence of this, but even it was true, why doesn't everyone else have a lot of 'secondary assists' if they are so easy to come by?

Crybaby?? Again you have no evidence of this. Try to find a single quote where Hemsky either complains...or better yet, find one quote where a coach or teammate thinks that he is complaining or being a 'crybaby'. Don't bother looking too long, because that quote does not exist.

He did produce the last two seasons when he is in the lineup...64 points in 69 games. This season has been admittedly a down year and no one is denying he should be playing better. But I think he has been getting somewhat better over the last month. He has 9 points in his last 12 games (that would be prorated to about a 60-point season). Not great numbers, but not too bad either.

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#47 50 in 39
February 04 2012, 01:16PM
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Trading Hemsky could address some needs in the present if management could do a "hockey trade" rather than trading talent for picks where time just stands still.

If all else fails, the Setoguchi treatment could work for the Oilers.

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#48 bazmagoo
February 04 2012, 01:19PM
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I'd take Pancakes over Hemsky right now, at least we'd have some size on our 2nd - 3rd line. Maybe Penner doesn't like playing in LA, who knows what could be the reason for him not producing. Could be worth the gamble considering he's going to be available as a UFA. Seems like a good guy in the room. Might be lazy but at least he makes guys laugh and lightens up the mood when/if necessary.

If we could get Penner for two years at 2.5 million per in the off season would that change the dynamic of Hemsky being traded in anyone's mind?

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#49 DieHard
February 04 2012, 01:27PM
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YOU are the Oilers GM regarding Hemksy.

What is your bottom line for term and amount?

I don't think he'll sign for anything less than 4 years and a cap average of 5.25M. Personally I think this would be fine if he played 90% of the games and showed more effort and commitment. I just don't know if he can do that. Is it worth the risk?

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#50 knobby
February 04 2012, 01:32PM
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Could Hemsky be tanking on purpose because he is considering returning to Europe? KHL maybe.

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