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Lowetide
March 13 2012 07:38AM

There's little doubt the Edmonton Oilers are going to be looking for blueline help this summer. The club has enough assets--young NHLers, prospects and draft picks--to overpay for a legit impact defender. Is the shopping list a long one? Will any of these player types be available?

OH, THAT BACK END

Oiler fans know the club has some extreme needs on defense. Ryan Whitney's injured and doesn't look like he's going to get better or quicker any time soon. Cam Barker has been a disappointment, Corey Potter started well but his effectiveness since returning from injury has been found wanting. Theo Peckham has struggled more than anyone.

That leaves Ladislav Smid, the trending Jeff Petry, new hire Nick Schultz and big man Andy Sutton to save the day.

That my friends is not enough. Over the next few weeks I'll profile some of the players Edmonton may target this summer. I understand they may not be available--these players rarely are--but want to get an idea about what kind of talent pool may be out there when the trade market opens.

NO DAY AT THE BEACH

The available candidates have some things you're not going to like. Some of them cost too much, others have injury histories that are cringe worthy and still others may not be as "high end" as Oiler fans would like to see incoming over the summer.

Note: For Leaf fans, I'm not suggesting Phaneuf is getting traded or that Brian Burke would even consider it. I'm suggesting Edmonton might be interested in the player.

CANDIDATE #1 DION PHANEUF

Dion Phaneuf is a very famous hockey player on a very famous team. I can hear howls from both Oiler and Leaf fans when reading his name as a possibilty, but there are reasons to believe he might be available over the summer. Toronto has not had success with Double Dion as their whammo captain and he doesn't ka-bong like he used to. Moreover, Phaneuf takes home a mighty mighty paycheck every month ($6.5M times 2 after this season) and Toronto is paying a lot of money to their blue.

Let's start by seeing how the Leafs use Double Dion:

  • EV: 69, 3-15-18, 19:14 per game
  • PP: 69, 6-15-21, 3:40 per game
  • PK: 69, 0-1-1, 2:30 per game

Right away we see that this is a 25 minute a night defenseman and he plays in all three disciplines. Toronto boasts the 8th best PP and 29th ranked PK so there might be some question as to how much he's helping 4x5.

At even strength, Phaneuf this season has performed well. The offensive numbers he's delivering are well short of his contract, but he's a more consistent defender and the numbers are good for a 9th place tie in the entire NHL. Edmonton's current point leader from the backline has half the points (20) and is half as effective on the PP.

CORSI REL

Phaneuf is having a good season by this metric, we see those big 5x5 minutes and a Corsi Rel in the black. This graph also shows us that the future of Toronto's blue should be able to survive a Phaneuf trade--Liles, Gardiner, Gunnarson, Franson and Schenn should be the future. That's a more cost effective group too, with Phaneuf's contract down the line.

ZONE START

Komisarek and Gunnarson get the tough assignments and after that it's pretty much random from what we see here. Ron Wilson certainly gave his 4 best offensive options the best chance to impact the game in a positive way with zone starts in enemy territory.

QUAL COMP

We see with Qual Comp the real pecking order for Ron Wilson. He put Phaneuf and Gunnarson out against the tough opposition and then rotated the soft parade among the rest. Interesting to see Komisarek getting soft minutes, tough zone starts and a terrible Corsi Rel--I'd be interested in seeing the quality of players he was out there with during those sorties.

 

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

First, we wouldn't have this conversation without Gabriel Desjardins and behind the net.ca but after that we get a look at a pretty nice NHL player. Is he worth the money? Well, I think we can agree not having one of these guys makes for a pretty crappy winter so I'd suggest we include him on the list and see how many we can find who are clearly better than Double Dion. Phaneuf has settled down defensively and his offense has returned to more historic levels--although he's certainly not the PP monster of olden days.

I have no idea if Toronto would deal him, and whether Edmonton would have the assets to move in a blockbuster to bring the back man back to Alberta. We'll deal with those issues after we identify the available talent pool.

Dion Phaunef must certainly a player of interest.

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#1 oilbaron
March 13 2012, 07:44AM
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woohoo FIST, thank god i called in sick today.

please no! if your gonna go after a defenceman via trade that costs as much as phaneuf, lets look else where. Matt Carle is a UFA at seasons end and he's on the up swing. he would look nice lined up next to petry or shultz. wont cost us assets to get him and he wont be as big a cap hit as Pierre Mcquire's boyfriend.

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#2 BLEEDING OIL
March 13 2012, 07:45AM
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i think we would take a FISTing to get Dion.

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#3 Ben lent
March 13 2012, 07:46AM
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Fist!!

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#4 BLEEDING OIL
March 13 2012, 07:46AM
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BLEEDING OIL wrote:

i think we would take a FISTing to get Dion.

crap.....2nd fist

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#5 DBO
March 13 2012, 07:59AM
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No to Phaneuf. Another LH dman does not serve us. I'd like to see Wideman from Washington, who would only cost us money, or Garrison from FLA (who is LH) who would be cheaper.

And if we are going to deal assets, make a play for Weber. Shoot for the moon, or overpay. Wideman at Phanuef's money is something he would go for, and would allow us to use some of the assets we have to improve in other areas.

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#6 Truth
March 13 2012, 08:02AM
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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

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#7 Pajamah
March 13 2012, 08:10AM
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Stat guys, prove me wrong

Carle without Pronger would be a terrible choice. Carle is another #4 defenseman that prior to the trade of Gilbert, we had too much of.

Wideman and Garrison could be good PP options, but they don't strike me as exceptional defensive options.

I am in the Weber/Suter boat, but they may be too expensive to bring in.

And I know its even harder to attain, but we want a future cornerstone that isn't quite there yet. (eg. Pietrangelo, Dougie Hamilton, maybe Bogosian etc.)

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#8 yegCopywriter
March 13 2012, 08:12AM
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If you asked me unprompted who are the top 2 hated defencemen in Edmonton, I'd say Pronger and Phaneuf. LT, do you think we'd actually be able to cheer for that guy?

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#9 VK63
March 13 2012, 08:21AM
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~Well wouldnt that be something~

However..... that "back end" in the tall heels................. yes please!

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#10 Buzz Lightbeer
March 13 2012, 08:34AM
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NO. And never suggest an ex-Flame or Stampeder is a fit in Oil Country again. Thank you.

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#11 oilbaron
March 13 2012, 08:35AM
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@Pajamah

pronger only played 13 games this season and in those 13 games, Carle had 7 points (.53 PPG) and was a -1 with an average of 23.7 minutes per game. since than carle has played in 55 games has 27 points (.49 PPG) is +6 and averages 23minutes per game.

It might be just me, but in just these stats that i posted i dont see any proof that pronger going down has impacted Carle's play in a negative way. If you also look at his previous seasons he's on the up swing and hes getting better every year. we need players like this.

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#12 Dman09
March 13 2012, 08:38AM
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I would have to say no, he just another guy that only seems to show up when he wants to especially when he was in Calgary. There was a reason they traded him and I don't think that should be added to the team. Also Horcoff for starters shouldn't be an Oiler next season but thats like asking for a miracle but he should not be captain next season either. I would give it to Hall as a lead by example. Also I fully expect that if Tambo and Renny are both here next season there will be little to no personel changes and this team will be a bottom 5 again.

The whole bottom 6 last night were invisible from my eyes. Not effort and determination. Defense was bad as usual but Smid and Petry still looked good. I swear this team is going to lead to higher suicide rates in Edmonton

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#13 j
March 13 2012, 08:53AM
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@Dman09

The Oilers need real hockey players with heart, determination and skill. I really couldn't care if they played for the Flames. Would you take Giordano? In a heartbeat. However, I don't think DP is the answer. The Oil need a young(er) stud to build around with a good veteran mentor to assist in the kid's development. We may have the answer in our system already but I'd rather we pick up a player in his third or fourth year that is projecting well. Keep in mind that most big name defensemen who have been traded in the past 5 years don't turn out as planned. Bouwmeester, Phaneuf, Campbell, Johnston(s), Byfug, Gilbert (TBD). Pronger seemed to be the exception - he was gold wherever he went. My point is there is risk in going out after the biggest fish. The biggest successes seem to be finding an emerging talent on the blue line who has suffered through the first few years of development with his draft team and traded for other talent. Many examples of this.

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#14 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 13 2012, 09:06AM
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Two new defensmen please.

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#15 mayorpoop
March 13 2012, 09:16AM
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maybe we can bring Dion in and Dustin back. awesome.

no offense LT. i hope we reach higher than Phaneuf when we look for that defenceman we need.

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#16 mayorpoop
March 13 2012, 09:17AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Two new defensmen please.

1-2 guys or 3-4 guys?

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#17 Dman09
March 13 2012, 09:20AM
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mayorpoop wrote:

1-2 guys or 3-4 guys?

One of each

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#18 Oilcruzer
March 13 2012, 09:21AM
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Ben lent wrote:

Fist!!

ÜberFail.

A participant ribbon at best.

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#19 justDOit
March 13 2012, 09:22AM
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The idea of DP wearing the Oil drop makes me feel dirty - so does the idea of giving up young assets to BB.

UFA back-end help please, or maybe a RFA offer sheet...?

Or maybe the Sabres don't want to cough up $12M for Myers next season, and he could be traded for? Wow! I had to read that 3 times, but it still says that he's due to make TWELVE MILLION dollars next year (nhlnumbers.com).

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#20 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 13 2012, 09:24AM
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mayorpoop wrote:

1-2 guys or 3-4 guys?

One of each should realistic.

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#21 Oilcruzer
March 13 2012, 09:29AM
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In my opinion, the big money should go to the one you count on, and who plays the biggest minutes, as they have the biggest impact and sell the most jerseys.

I don't see a lot of Khabibulin jerseys or Dubnyk jerseys at Rexall. Listen to the fans. We used to see a lot of Fuhr Moog Ranford Joseph Salo and Roloson jerseys in the crowd.

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#22 Oilcruzer
March 13 2012, 09:30AM
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Pronger was also one of those players. The time to think about cap implications is coming and you can't throw big money at every need.

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#23 mayorpoop
March 13 2012, 09:40AM
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@OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

@OB1 & @Dman09,

agreed. was just curious to see what others felt would be sufficient to meet our needs.

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#24 Talbot17
March 13 2012, 09:45AM
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I think this summer its time the oil plucked a Toronto D man. You can be sure Burke is desperate come summer given their recent slump and need for secondary scoring

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#25 Evilas
March 13 2012, 09:59AM
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If the Oil want to finally get out of the cellar, this year's 1st round pick should be used to get a Dman. There are too many question marks surrounding the clear cut top 2 picks (KHL/injuries/attitudes) & we have enough Dman prospects. Perhaps the 2nd round will uncover a forward. There are so many prospects coming up and there will be little room to groom them.

Move Gagner at the draft and get a second Dman, and maybe throw in next year's 2nd round pick to sweeten the pot. I would target one vet 25-28 yrs old and one up and comer 20-24 yrs old. They should be top minutes types.

I would hope that Belanger and Jones would be thrown into the deals, and Khabbibulin as well.... but he might be more useful at next year's trade deadline.

Great read Lowetide! I look forward to this series, this is exactly the type of discussion we should be having (or more accurately, that Tambo and co should be having).

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#26 ralph_u
March 13 2012, 10:06AM
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If Toronto was where I was shopping I would look at Franson. I think I would like to talk to Boston about Hamilton. Saw him at the world's I thought he was best on ice for us. Maybe next years first and Gagner or Omark?

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#27 OilLeak
March 13 2012, 10:13AM
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Trade the 1st round pick and prospect for Oliver ekman-Larsson, then you will have your 1-2 d-man. Acquire a 3-4 d-man through free agency.

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#28 6 ring circus
March 13 2012, 10:14AM
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With word coming out this morning from Renney and Horcoff that there are problems in the dressing room again. I would think that there needs to be a complete overhaul of staff from the top down.Bringing in a stud d man or drafting another top 3 pick is not going to help, there are problems within this organizations management,coaching staff and again some players that needs to be addressed before we will be a competitive team.

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#29 Dman09
March 13 2012, 10:14AM
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Evilas wrote:

If the Oil want to finally get out of the cellar, this year's 1st round pick should be used to get a Dman. There are too many question marks surrounding the clear cut top 2 picks (KHL/injuries/attitudes) & we have enough Dman prospects. Perhaps the 2nd round will uncover a forward. There are so many prospects coming up and there will be little room to groom them.

Move Gagner at the draft and get a second Dman, and maybe throw in next year's 2nd round pick to sweeten the pot. I would target one vet 25-28 yrs old and one up and comer 20-24 yrs old. They should be top minutes types.

I would hope that Belanger and Jones would be thrown into the deals, and Khabbibulin as well.... but he might be more useful at next year's trade deadline.

Great read Lowetide! I look forward to this series, this is exactly the type of discussion we should be having (or more accurately, that Tambo and co should be having).

I think with a lottery pick they could use it in a package to get a top dman by trading down into the 20-30 range as the value of a lotto pick is that high. Personally I would prefer doing it that way and you would still have a first rounder to try and find a decent forward prospect.

I don't think we can trade Gagner unless we have someone to replace him with and Belanger and Horcoff are not options, they are bottom six and nothing else.

I think a 3-4 d-man can be found UFA and I also think Edmonton should try for Harding. They need to have another option other than Bulin and DD. Carry all three if you have to until deadline and try to move Bulin but I think it is obvious that DD isn't going to be a #1, at least not yet and Bulin is just old.

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#30 Time Travelling Sean
March 13 2012, 10:16AM
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@ralph_u

That's the most stupidest proposal I've heard.

We all love Dougie, he's a stud, but Gagner AND a first? I wouldn't do Gagner straight up for him.

Gags for Subban straight up. Klefbom and our 2nd for Dougie.

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#31 Lochenzo
March 13 2012, 10:16AM
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The TSN guys were talking about Justin Schultz out of Wisconson. He's a BC boy, he's an NCAA 1st Team Allstar and he's been one of the best for 2 years running. If he chooses not to sign with Anaheim, he would become a free agent and circumvent the entry level deal requirement.

I'm not a fan of kids that bypass entry level deals. Paying seven figures for a guy that has yet to play a pro game is not normally a good thing. But there is a lot of excitement about this guy. The Oil have a very good history with right shooting, collegiate Dmen. Matt Greene, Gilbert, Petry.

Anybody see this kid play? Is he NHL ready right now?

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#32 OilLeak
March 13 2012, 10:17AM
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Talbot17 wrote:

I think this summer its time the oil plucked a Toronto D man. You can be sure Burke is desperate come summer given their recent slump and need for secondary scoring

Besides Gunnarson and Gardiner, there is no one worth going after in Toronto. Burke would want a king's ransom for them as well.

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#33 Smokey
March 13 2012, 10:19AM
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Lowetide,

You need to stop talking to Ecklund. This trade is not happening. After gagging on last nights dinner after reading your article, I thought long and hard about Phaneuf. Is Phan-ugly a leader that can change the culture in organization, or just a hard ass that splits a dressing room?

I don't anticipate a trade, cause Burke's not restarting the rebuild. The Leafs are only a couple decent players from being a competative team. Dion's not an elite top 10 defencemen, but he would be better then anything we got.

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#34 Dman09
March 13 2012, 10:23AM
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6 ring circus wrote:

With word coming out this morning from Renney and Horcoff that there are problems in the dressing room again. I would think that there needs to be a complete overhaul of staff from the top down.Bringing in a stud d man or drafting another top 3 pick is not going to help, there are problems within this organizations management,coaching staff and again some players that needs to be addressed before we will be a competitive team.

I would really like to know who the problem people are because the team has already replaced damn near everyone.

Also, and don't take this the wrong way but, I'm not so keen on drafting and/or playing european players. I just don't see the drive to win, the effort to raise the bar to another level when the teams need it. I look at Wash and Van and ya they do good throughout the season but come playoffs they falter. Now there are exceptions, Lidstrom for one, but in general that is what I see. Detroit is an exception of sorts as well because it doesn't matter to the team where you are from they expect that kind of effort from day 1 and if you don't they will get rid of you for someone that will.

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#35 Smokey
March 13 2012, 10:27AM
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Dman09 wrote:

I would have to say no, he just another guy that only seems to show up when he wants to especially when he was in Calgary. There was a reason they traded him and I don't think that should be added to the team. Also Horcoff for starters shouldn't be an Oiler next season but thats like asking for a miracle but he should not be captain next season either. I would give it to Hall as a lead by example. Also I fully expect that if Tambo and Renny are both here next season there will be little to no personel changes and this team will be a bottom 5 again.

The whole bottom 6 last night were invisible from my eyes. Not effort and determination. Defense was bad as usual but Smid and Petry still looked good. I swear this team is going to lead to higher suicide rates in Edmonton

Here, Here on Horcoff. Love the guy, but if this team needs the cap space then I'm all for it. I don't believe the Oilers are anyways close to a cap team next season, so he will be here. Hopefully they can reduce him to a 15-16 mins a night guy and I think that would be ok.

I've said it before, that as long as Horc's playing 21 mins a night, this team is rebuilding. Timewise he is our number one guy still, and if this is the case next year, we will see more of the same.

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#36 TigerUnderGlass
March 13 2012, 10:33AM
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@oilbaron

If you also look at his previous seasons he's on the up swing and hes getting better every year.

Carle will turn 28 next season. He is not on the "upswing".

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#37 Quicksilver ballet
March 13 2012, 10:37AM
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Dion Phanuef to me is a No. 2 guy on the back end. A poor mans No. 1.

With Petry making progress this season perhaps we could narrow the needs down to just one reliable No.1 guy on the back end. Petry would only get better working in the shadow of a guy like Shea Weber.

Alot will change over the next 5 yrs on the Oilers blueline. One solid top paring guy will make a difference on the blueline, it's really all that's needed to help bridge the gap here.

One more top 6 forward, a marquee blueliner,tinker with your bottom 6 if needed, grab a goaltender while waiting in line at the express checkout and the Oilers will be on the incline for the next few yrs.

Appologies for my tunnel vision (Shea Weber) but he's exactly what's needed here. Everyone else is definately plan B. You don't go to a Chrysler dealership if you're in the market for a Mercedes.

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#38 TigerUnderGlass
March 13 2012, 10:40AM
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For me the target is clear. This off season is the one and only chance where Carlson might be had. There will never be a better time.

Recently the sentiment out of Washington is that Orlov has broken out and is seen as the future replacement for Green. Orlov's emergence makes for a small window to try and pry Carlson loose before he becomes elite, a window that doesn't appear without Orlov's recent fine play.

Carlson is the right age and could grow into the backbone of this team for years.

Willis suggested to me yesterday that it could cost something like Gagner, Musil, and the 2013 #1. I would try and do it for MPS instead of Gagner, but I would happily pay that for Carlson now, because a year or two from now it would not be enough.

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#39 OilLeak
March 13 2012, 10:47AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:
If you also look at his previous seasons he's on the up swing and hes getting better every year.

Carle will turn 28 next season. He is not on the "upswing".

Really? Considering that most defenseman are not generally effective till their mid twenties, i'd like to know what you consider an effective NHL player. Carl is excellent and is in his prime.

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#40 Boozer
March 13 2012, 10:47AM
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6 ring circus wrote:

With word coming out this morning from Renney and Horcoff that there are problems in the dressing room again. I would think that there needs to be a complete overhaul of staff from the top down.Bringing in a stud d man or drafting another top 3 pick is not going to help, there are problems within this organizations management,coaching staff and again some players that needs to be addressed before we will be a competitive team.

If I was one of Eberle, Nuge, Hall, Gagner, Petry, Smid I would upset at the vets on this team. The kids have arrived, unfortunately the 2nd tier prospects are 1-3 years away, and the vets on this team are unable to fill the gap right now. This organization is going to loose the window to have the youngins in these value contracts and be competative, ala Chicago, Pittsburgh. Such a shame.

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#41 TigerUnderGlass
March 13 2012, 10:58AM
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OilLeak wrote:

Really? Considering that most defenseman are not generally effective till their mid twenties, i'd like to know what you consider an effective NHL player. Carl is excellent and is in his prime.

Is he in his prime or is he on the upswing? Make up your mind, they are not the same thing.

Carle is a good defenseman who will soon be paid like an elite defenseman. I'd rather have an elite defenseman if I'm paying that kind of money.

This reminds of all the people that think White suddenly became a good defenseman when he started playing with Lidstrom.

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#42 Simpsonite
March 13 2012, 11:16AM
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@6 ring circus

Where and when did this come out? And exactly how? Was it on the 1260 this morning? Wouldn't mind seeing some details on what's happening. If you got some deets let me know.

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#43 Clay
March 13 2012, 11:22AM
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I think it's safe to say that how the reconstruction of the defense is handled this summer will determine if we're watching a Pittsburg/Chicago rebuild, or a NYI/Columbus rebuild.

If Dithers stands pat or pulls some more Barker reclamation projects, then all of Hall, Eberle, and RNH are as good as gone. These kids are winners above all else, and will not accept wasting their careers playing for a team who has a management team comprised of idiots.

First chance they get, they will jump ship. Book it.

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#44 oilers1974
March 13 2012, 11:30AM
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I think when Tambo goes to fix this blueline, he needs to be extremely cognisant of the fact that he has one RHS defencemen. I'm not really counting Potter as someone we want in our top six moving ahead, so that leaves Petry. Unless he moves out a LHS Whitney, Smid, Schultz, Peckham or Sutton then I would suggest bringing in another LHS will only confuse the pairings even more as they are already having difficulty finding guys to play the right side effectively. Also, I would say this years lotto pick is the one to play with, and it should be parlayed into a top notch RHS two way defenceman closer to the development level of their high end forwards. This lotto pick will have more trade vale than anything on our roster not named Hall, Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins. This pick needs to be seriously shopped.

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#45 OilLeak
March 13 2012, 11:31AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Is he in his prime or is he on the upswing? Make up your mind, they are not the same thing.

Carle is a good defenseman who will soon be paid like an elite defenseman. I'd rather have an elite defenseman if I'm paying that kind of money.

This reminds of all the people that think White suddenly became a good defenseman when he started playing with Lidstrom.

Can players on the rise not be in their prime? I think so, If getting Carle required an overpayment I would do it, this team will not get any better shuffling deck chairs.

Personally, I would love to acquire an elite defenseman via trade, but teams are not usually willing to part with those type of players.

Who would you attempt to realistically acquire?

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#46 Quicksilver ballet
March 13 2012, 11:33AM
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Simpsonite wrote:

Where and when did this come out? And exactly how? Was it on the 1260 this morning? Wouldn't mind seeing some details on what's happening. If you got some deets let me know.

On the Sportsnet loop this morning. Tom mentioned it only takes a couple guys with a don't give a ship attitude to infect the whole room. 10,20,83,89... just didn't give a ship last night.

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#47 vetinari
March 13 2012, 11:36AM
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I will interpret your suggestion that we need to get "DP" to mean, we need a player LIKE "DP", but not really "DP".

Phaneuf would be a gong show and divisive force in the dressing room and I think that any deal to land him would be too costly, if not in terms of young talent, but in fan revolt and discontent.

I know that we need to cash in some of our second tier young talent to land a defensive stud, but I think we also need to get a quality goaltender as well.

One option, which I am simply recognizing is an option, is to unload our likely top 3 first round pick for a defensive stud and drop back to the 4th to 7th range and take a defenseman with that pick as well. We then plug two holes and have our defenceman of today with our defenceman of tomorrow in the wings. We could then shop some of second tier youth like Omark for an upgrade at goalie and/or defence.

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#48 TigerUnderGlass
March 13 2012, 11:37AM
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OilLeak wrote:

Can players on the rise not be in their prime? I think so, If getting Carle required an overpayment I would do it, this team will not get any better shuffling deck chairs.

Personally, I would love to acquire an elite defenseman via trade, but teams are not usually willing to part with those type of players.

Who would you attempt to realistically acquire?

Can players on the rise not be in their prime?

Not if you know what the words "prime" and "upswing" mean.

If getting Carle required an overpayment I would do it, this team will not get any better shuffling deck chairs.

Paying elite money to an above average defenseman is probably the worst mistake a GM could make.

Who would you attempt to realistically acquire?

If you want to know who I would target try reading the thread.

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#49 DoubleJ
March 13 2012, 11:40AM
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Lochenzo wrote:

The TSN guys were talking about Justin Schultz out of Wisconson. He's a BC boy, he's an NCAA 1st Team Allstar and he's been one of the best for 2 years running. If he chooses not to sign with Anaheim, he would become a free agent and circumvent the entry level deal requirement.

I'm not a fan of kids that bypass entry level deals. Paying seven figures for a guy that has yet to play a pro game is not normally a good thing. But there is a lot of excitement about this guy. The Oil have a very good history with right shooting, collegiate Dmen. Matt Greene, Gilbert, Petry.

Anybody see this kid play? Is he NHL ready right now?

I would love to steal this player away from Ana.

But, I really doubt Tambi has the "skills" to win this guy over. My guess is Burke gets him or the Rangers. Those two teams have the GM that can win over players. They seem to do it all the time. Maybe Boston as well. Tambi has yet to prove that he is guy that can bring in talent.

I'm all for brining in Wideman for a few years at a $5 mil. I don't know his game very well, but i bet he's pretty tired of being traded every deadline. He might like being apart of something like the Oilers have to offer.

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#50 Simpsonite
March 13 2012, 11:44AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

On the Sportsnet loop this morning. Tom mentioned it only takes a couple guys with a don't give a ship attitude to infect the whole room. 10,20,83,89... just didn't give a ship last night.

GAH! The one day I didn't watch the loop. Daggnabit. Thanks.

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