Will The Oilers Take The Best Player Available At The Draft This Summer?

Jonathan Willis
March 07 2012 11:01AM

While virtually every club around espouses “best player available” as their draft strategy, there’s no doubt that the Oilers pay attention to the position played by the guys they’re drafting. If there was any doubt of that, the last episode of Oil Change should have removed it.

First, there was this exchange on the draft floor at the Oilers’ table before the Oilers made the 19th overall pick in 2011:

Tambellini: “More offense on [Oscar] Klefbom?”
MacGregor: “Pelly likes Klefbom better, Robert thinks they’re really even.”
[Unclear]: “We want a ‘D’”
MacGregor: “Yeah, you know, those three guys are all very close. We had him ranked higher anyhow, so he’s the guy to go with.”

Which three players were the Oilers looking at? We can’t know for certain, but the next four defensemen taken were Connor Murphy, Joe Morrow, Stuart Percy, and David Musil.

Speaking of Musil, here’s what was said before the Oilers drafted him in the second round:

MacGregor: “31. If we don’t take one of those D’s, the guys you’ll be looking at, they’ll likely go.”
Bob Brown: “I thought we had enough forwards, and you never have enough defense. I’ve always said David [Musil]’s going to play. He might be one of the smartest guys on the back end.”
Unidentified scout: “He’s kind of the whole package in a defenseman that’s gonna be an anchor for a while.”
Unidentified scout: “I think that they will force him to [inaudible] that and I do think it’s an issue.”
Kent Hawley: “Total opposite. I think his feetwork will improve; his positioning, his gap, and his stick and his hockey sense, I just don’t see it being a concern.”
MacGregor: “[Oilers skating and skills coach Steve] Serdachny says his skating can get better.”
Tambellini: “So, you agree with character?”
Brown: “Character, leadership.”
MacGregor: “We may need to take defensemen, but… it’s very close. Very, very close. Good discussion.”

Again, we can’t know which forward might have been in the discussion, but we do know that St. Louis drafted Ty Rattie (63GP – 53G – 57A – 110PTS in the WHL this season) with the next pick.

Those discussions are interesting given the choice the Oilers have to make at the Entry Draft this summer. As it stands, they’re likely to finish with the second overall draft pick, and the top two prospects on most publicly available lists are Nail Yakupov and Mikhail Grigorenko. The two likely best defensemen – Ryan Murray and Matt Dumba – are a little further down, more in the third-to-fifth range.

We don’t know who the Oilers are going to pick, or even where they’re going to select, but we can guess that the positional needs of the organization are going to be discussed.

(Photo above a screenshot from Oil Change.)

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 Zed
March 07 2012, 12:01PM
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I had a coupon for a free subway sub once.

I felt like a pizza sub at the time so that's what I got. Halfway through the sub I thought,

"Wow. I could have had a chicken teriaki. It wouldn't have cost me anything more."

I felt pretty stupid for the rest of that lunch hour.

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#2 Halfwise
March 07 2012, 11:15AM
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Is there a kind of "auction fever" at draft time that makes draft picks worth more than real players, while at the trade deadline it is the opposite? An arbitrage opportunity, based strictly on the mood of GMs.

If that is the case, trading a high draft pick would gain you a better player in June, and trading a player in February would gain you a better draft pick than if you did it in June.

If everything else is equal, the Oilers could trade #2 or #3 for an actual NHL impact D-man in June, more easily than they could make that trade during the season.

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#3 Zed
March 07 2012, 11:53AM
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"Will The Oilers Take The Best Player Available At The Draft This Summer?"

THEY DAMN WELL BETTER!

If drafting the team's current needs is the philosophy these guys preach then they NEED to pick the best player available.

Keep it simple. Address the team's needs via different avenues.

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#4 Zack
March 07 2012, 12:31PM
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Jonathon, interesting you bring this up but I think the significance of the pick weighs heavily on the position of the draft you are picking. Every draft after the top "X" amount of players had been picked then things can sway between need and BPA. You already know this though, what exactly is your argument here?

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#5 Quicksilver ballet
March 07 2012, 02:04PM
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I'm not confident the Oiler scouting staff is on top of things yet with just Eberle to show for their efforts over the last 4 yrs. Hopefully the Oilers win the lotto and are forced into taking the BPA again. There's no denying the Oilers are a better team today because they've had this decision made for them in Hall and Hopkins.

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#6 Justin R
March 07 2012, 11:07AM
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I would like to see them not pick anyone and trade that pick for a stud D-man, but that is just me

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#7 andrewmk20
March 07 2012, 11:40AM
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Since the draft rankings of Nail and Mikhail at midseason there have been reports of Grigerenko's character and work ethic coming into question. Scouts have also observed that he racks up points against lesser opponents but doesn't show up against the elite squads in the Q. That poses a major problem since the NHL is tough every night even against the bad teams, as the Oilers showed last night in San Jose and have shown against teams like Chicago, Philly, and Nashville on occasion. After Yakupov a defenceman seems more likely. I know a lot of people like Griffin Reinhart but the Oilers drafted a similar player to him in Klefbom last season. I think Dumba and Murray fill a much needed role as great skating puck movers.

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#8 Dman09
March 07 2012, 11:48AM
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andrewmk20 wrote:

Since the draft rankings of Nail and Mikhail at midseason there have been reports of Grigerenko's character and work ethic coming into question. Scouts have also observed that he racks up points against lesser opponents but doesn't show up against the elite squads in the Q. That poses a major problem since the NHL is tough every night even against the bad teams, as the Oilers showed last night in San Jose and have shown against teams like Chicago, Philly, and Nashville on occasion. After Yakupov a defenceman seems more likely. I know a lot of people like Griffin Reinhart but the Oilers drafted a similar player to him in Klefbom last season. I think Dumba and Murray fill a much needed role as great skating puck movers.

I would rather take a forward and trade for a proven defenseman. 3 or 4 years development won't help right now and the theme of the oilers seems to be play great against elite teams and lose to the lesser teams. Maybe Gregor will even that out.

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#9 Clarko
March 07 2012, 12:35PM
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Dave Hester wrote:

wtf? Do they not come prepared? Get your scouts together BEFORE the draft, rank ALL the players in the order you would draft them, and then cross off players as they are taken.

You don't come to the entry draft and fly by the seat of your pants.

Yeah...I'm sure they don't do any ranking before the draft. Maybe you should send them your resume!

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#10 Jim Roepcke
March 07 2012, 01:05PM
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I watched Musil in Victoria last week. His footspeed and his stride were issues, as was his first pass, which rarely hit the mark. His skating reminded me of someone who'd played goalie and switched to D - feet very wide apart, short strides.

On the good side, he's really mean and strong and well positioned in his D-zone.

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#11 Mabell
March 07 2012, 02:28PM
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It depends upon where we pick - if we win the lottery and pick 1st - you take Nail.

If 2nd or lower - trade the pick for a top pairing offensive D. My first thought is Oliver Ekman-Larsson - out of Phoenix. They need some high end forwards - we need D....seems like a deal could be made.

I like Ryan Murphy a lot. But we need someone who is going to make a difference in the next couple of years - not 5 years from now. And realistically that’s how long it's going to take a draft pick to get to that level.

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#12 Dave Lumley
March 07 2012, 10:19PM
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Oil Dude wrote:

I for one am not worried at all about this pick. The way I see it Tambi is playing with house money right now.

The rise of Eberle has now given us potentially three franchise players to build around. I am far more concerned with who Tambellini picks up at free agency than I am about some young guy picked up at the draft.

He is not picking anybody of importance in free agency. He has said that all along, we need to develop from within because the cost of a first class free agent coming to Edmonton is way to expensive (as history has proven).

That is his plan like it or not. If nothing else he has been very consistent with this.

Pick the "D-man", if he is not turning out then move him with one of the many addons we have and a draft pick for your stud D-man.

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#13 Talbot17
March 07 2012, 11:13AM
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they should take best available, as high picks for D are not guaranteed studs (Barker)

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#14 Dman09
March 07 2012, 11:31AM
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Talbot17 wrote:

they should take best available, as high picks for D are not guaranteed studs (Barker)

No pick is guaranteed, Take the best but if you had the option of either Nail or Gregorenko I think I would lean to Gregor because of his size. Being that high in the draft there is a lot higher probability that he will be a good NHL player and Edmonton is constently looking for size.

This season has showed everyone that we are still weak at center and I don't see either of horcoff or belanger as a solution. Lander did alright and the other center propects didn't do so hot in OKC.

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#15 belly
March 07 2012, 11:53AM
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The way Montreal is playing, it is doubtful we will be drafting in the number two slot. Anybody being drafted in the top 5 should always be a forward. Unless the consenus has a D-man going #1 overall, then it is up for debate. Go back to Beaumeester(spelling) being drafted, he almost fell out of top 5 after it was up for debate if he or Nash was going to go first. The truth of the matter is weather or not you want a franchise player or a potential solid 2-4 dman in a period of 3-5 years. Not really a tough call.

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#16 tileguy
March 07 2012, 11:54AM
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Looks we are going to draft 3rd overall as Montreal is only 2 back with a game in hand and dropping like a stone. Now what?

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#17 geeker99
March 07 2012, 11:58AM
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Yeah I am on the trade the pick in a package for a "vet" #1-2 defenceman. Unless we pick 1st overall I can see our braintrust screwing it up.

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#18 Dave Hester
March 07 2012, 12:24PM
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wtf? Do they not come prepared? Get your scouts together BEFORE the draft, rank ALL the players in the order you would draft them, and then cross off players as they are taken.

You don't come to the entry draft and fly by the seat of your pants.

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#19 vetinari
March 07 2012, 12:32PM
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Assuming that the Oilers end up with the #2 pick overall, I would be tempted to trade back to the #3/#4/#5 pick IF it meant getting a high end roster defenceman that was a RFA or had an affordable two or three years left on his contract, and then I would pick Murray or Dumba. This way, I have an immediate defenceman to plug into the lineup and our future defenceman in the wings.

We have enough young forwards that we won't be able to afford long term deals for more than Hall, Eberle, RNH, and Gagner unless they take some level of "hometown discount", and typically, Russians don't come over to play second, third or fourth line minutes while taking a "hometown discount".

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#20 Romulus' Apotheosis
March 07 2012, 12:45PM
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It's got to be BPA in the first 3-5 positions if not first round.

Two things to consider:

1) D take way longer to develop. Drafting D based on immediate need is like buying a rock hard avocado an hour before a guacamole party.

2) Because of the development path for D it is much more of a crap shoot as to who is going to make it; cf. Plante. you should be more cautious about D in the first round.

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#21 Anon
March 07 2012, 12:48PM
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What if the BPA is a goalie? Don't you nick him down the draft order, consider the wide availability of FA goalies, development time, uncertainty in development, etc.

The Oilers may not have the most robust ranking system, but good on them for considering more than boxcar numbers.

The importance of defense versus the quicker development of an offensive forward muddy the waters.

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#22 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
March 07 2012, 12:56PM
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Zack wrote:

Jonathon, interesting you bring this up but I think the significance of the pick weighs heavily on the position of the draft you are picking. Every draft after the top "X" amount of players had been picked then things can sway between need and BPA. You already know this though, what exactly is your argument here?

That was basically my thought, top 4/5 or whatever picks of course you go BPA, once you are into the high teens though, it's pretty hard to differenciate.

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#23 gord962
March 07 2012, 01:28PM
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Because the current Oilers squad has basically been built from front to back, they can't be thinking "no matter where we pick in the first round, we need a d-man." Defensemen take time to develop and it has been proven time and time again that there is much more of a market to trade high end defensemen that high end forwards. If we draft a d-man is he is ready at age 23, that is 5 years down the road. We are getting into UFA land for all out young forwards that we most likely aren't going to be able to hold onto all of them.

My opinion is that you take the best player available when drafting inside the top 10. After that, the likelyhood of players being regulars in the NHL drops off so go ahead and draft for position after that point.

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#24 Dog Train
March 07 2012, 01:31PM
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I think it's a bit different depending on where you are drafting. In the top 10, I would definitely go best available. Depending on the depth of the draft, you can start to move a bit closer to draft by need if two players are pretty close. I have heard conflicting scouting reports on Grigorenko, but if our scouts think that he is the best player available when we step to the podium, then we need to take him or trade down (which is not usually easy to find a deal that makes sense). We could use a big body like that and if he makes somebody else expendable, then they become trade bait.

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#25 etownman
March 07 2012, 01:41PM
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The Oilers will overtake Montreal for sure & I actually predict they'll finish with the 5th worst record!

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#26 BaconWrapped
March 07 2012, 01:44PM
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Clarko wrote:

Yeah...I'm sure they don't do any ranking before the draft. Maybe you should send them your resume!

Nice one.

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#27 Dyckster
March 07 2012, 01:47PM
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I'm in the, "getting real tired of who we're going to pick 1st, 2nd, 3rd,...." camp. I for one would rather see an Oiler related article which debates, "who are we going to pick with our 1st, 27th overall pick?"

I know we've gathered up some sensational talent through the draft over the last couple of years, but can we just start winning please?

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#28 They're $hittie
March 07 2012, 01:53PM
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Haven't heard of a bad scouting report on Yakupov. Only bad things are Russian factor and a little small.

Grigorenko has had a lot of bad scouting reports. One wouldn't take him at 25. Sounds too much like Alexander Daigle. No hustle or effort. Last Russian like this was Cherapanov. We all know why he had no effort (he couldn't because of his health). Don't want this guy. Sorry. Don's see how we can pay 3 first round forwards and a late first round forward 5-7 million and the other top two 6 around 3-5 million. Eventually we need cheap all around players to fill out the roster and not just high end forwards.

Murray is most likely the best player available when the oilers draft. Yes I think he is better than Grigorenko.

A d-man may be a risk at 3 but how and where do you get a top d-man without trading a major asset. Anyone willing to give up Eberle or RNH to get it. Didn't thinks so. We got our steal with Eberle at 22. Most 22nd overall picks don't become this offensively good at this young of age. If we draft a D at 3rd overall and get someone maybe doesn't pan out to top 3 but a first rounder than it balances out as Eberle could easily got to the top 5 of his draft year.

In the new age: CHAMPIONSHIPS CAN'T BE WON WITHOUT A GOOD DEFENCE CORE/

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#29 Oilcan
March 07 2012, 01:55PM
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Would love to see Edmonton sitting in 25th place then winning the lottery...it would be too funny to see Howsons face when it is announced.

ALso I am in no way an expert or anything but I kind of feel Grigerenko is getting knocked because he is so highly skilled and highly ranked. When Yakupov went down and Galchenyuk then the top rated forward was Grigerenko by a landslide and was the most scouted player and when scouts watch someone for a long period of time they begin to knock them for little things. In my opinion the same things happened to Couterier because he was scouted and ranked so highly for two years as opposed to Huberdeu who shot up in one year.

I also would take the knock on Grigerenko's compete level then a knock on his actual skill (to a certain degree) because he has been injured this year and he could be nursing it still because I saw no reports of his compete level earlier in the year.

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#30 RexLibris
March 07 2012, 01:59PM
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What about Galchenyuk?

Arguably a higher offensive potential than Grigorenko, haven't read any questions about motivation or character, and his point totals from last season (his first in the OHL) are pretty eye-popping. His scouting report suggests he is defensively aware and has a pretty high hockey IQ in reading and anticipating plays.

I know people will say that because he was injured the entire season he's too risky, but Ewanyk was injured for the better part of the season and used the time off to improve his personal game and understanding of strategy and positioning. Assuming that the Oilers draft 2nd or 3rd overall I'd be quite happy to walk away with Galchenyuk after day one.

As for a D-man, we have so many developing and the opportunity to sign free agent defenceman, or even trade for some younger ones in the way that Tampa traded for Keith Aulie. When it comes to defencemen for this team, I don't want a cornerstone d-man "right now" because his usefulness will be wasted on this team "right now". We need place holders and useful plug-and-play types to help keep our core from collapsing under the pressure until we begin to graduate our own top-level d-men.

So Galchenyuk with the 1st pick, then maybe move Peckham for an extra 2nd and take Henrik Samuelsson and maybe another d-man?

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#31 RexLibris
March 07 2012, 02:02PM
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What about the idea of trading the 2nd or 3rd overall pick to Washington for both of their 1st round picks and maybe an extra later-round pick? If it's D-men we want, there would still be plenty to go around at 11th and 13th or whatever the Washington and Colorado picks will be.

Not what I would do, but just thought I'd mention the idea.

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#32 Smokey
March 07 2012, 02:12PM
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Ill be happy with either the Big G or Ryan Murray, either way it fills one of our two obvious holes. I believe the Oilers will target Murray. If they get the 2nd pick they have to take the BPA which will the Grigs, but I`d rather they trade down and take Murray.

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#33 Smokey
March 07 2012, 02:19PM
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Talbot17 wrote:

they should take best available, as high picks for D are not guaranteed studs (Barker)

Ive always wondered how Barker went so high with his horrible foot speed and lack of defensive awareness.

I worry about the same thing as you in regards to defencemen. I am hoping that the Oilers organization can identify whether that number 1 or 2 stud defencemen is in the system already. Can one of Klefbaum, Marincin, Gernat be that guy. Cause if one of those guys is our future 25 minutes a nite stud, then I hope they take the forward. Unfortunately I don`t have faith in Tambo`s judgement, and am worried about this pick.

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#34 BaconWrapped
March 07 2012, 02:19PM
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Dave Hester wrote:

wtf? Do they not come prepared? Get your scouts together BEFORE the draft, rank ALL the players in the order you would draft them, and then cross off players as they are taken.

You don't come to the entry draft and fly by the seat of your pants.

Of course they come prepared, don't you see that someone remembered to bring the Magic 8-Ball?

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#35 bazmagoo
March 07 2012, 02:23PM
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Oilers pick a defenceman with the 3rd overall pick, you heard it here first folks! :)

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#36 Lochenzo
March 07 2012, 02:41PM
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Stories of Grigorenko's lack of work ethic are a little disturbing, but Malkin has had his effort level criticized many times as well. Just saying. Competitiveness. Desire to be the best. Wants to win the Stanley Cup. Are those qualities Grigorenko has or will have?

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#37 They're $hittie
March 07 2012, 02:42PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

actually statistically we were a better team when we did not always pick BPA. I would say we started picking BPA with Gagner in 07.

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#38 Sliderule
March 07 2012, 02:42PM
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We are going to pick in top five maybe even top three.

It will be a fail if we don't pick BPA.if that's a defenceman so be it.

Don't beleive the draft white noise about attitude.we heard the same sort of thing about Halls parent interfering and Seguin being soft etc.As it turned out like most rumors it was bullcrap.

If the Oil can't get a player in the top five who can put us over the top the scouts won't have done their job

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#39 They're $hittie
March 07 2012, 02:46PM
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Smokey wrote:

Ill be happy with either the Big G or Ryan Murray, either way it fills one of our two obvious holes. I believe the Oilers will target Murray. If they get the 2nd pick they have to take the BPA which will the Grigs, but I`d rather they trade down and take Murray.

our obvious holes are not in our top two centers, (which is grigorenkos slotting). who cares if they are small. Look at detroit. And look at how good Gagners two way game has become. Our holes at center is Horcoff and 4th line. So to address this hole you would not draft that player top 5.

Defense is the hole. Address this need. Draft or trade. Dont think you are going to get it via trade, especially in your own conference.

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#40 They're $hittie
March 07 2012, 02:50PM
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Dont know how you do it but use these assets we have; omark, peckham, 2nd or 3rd overall, 2nd round, anahiems 2nd round and our 3rd.

Some how aquire 4th or 5th overall and 8th or 9th and draft two of the following, Murray, Dumba, Reinhart or Reily.

If we still have 32nd or so draft wilson to ad the big power forward to the group/

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#41 They're $hittie
March 07 2012, 02:52PM
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Sliderule wrote:

We are going to pick in top five maybe even top three.

It will be a fail if we don't pick BPA.if that's a defenceman so be it.

Don't beleive the draft white noise about attitude.we heard the same sort of thing about Halls parent interfering and Seguin being soft etc.As it turned out like most rumors it was bullcrap.

If the Oil can't get a player in the top five who can put us over the top the scouts won't have done their job

if you are referring to the white noise on grigorenko; even with attitude or being soft no scout had hall or sequin out of the top 5. With grigs there are numerous team scouts who have him out of the top 15.

also in regards to a drafting a Dman high. How many elite D have the oilers developed. How many Elite D are in the league. If we are looking for one I would rather have the odds on the high draft pick with pedigree than hope for the 1 in a thousand to come out of the later rounds.

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#42 Kevin Jamieson
March 07 2012, 04:05PM
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I don't think Dumba is a reasonable risk at any pick before 4. He is an injury risk at the NHL level in my opinion based on his size and style. He could be the best D available if blessed with some luck and able to play he next few seasons (prime developmental years) and optimal conditions for his development. He reminds me a bit of Ryan Ellis.

I like the look of Griffin Reinhart ahead of Dumba right now. I think the long term projections on him look better too. He may not provide the same offense but he might surprise.

I think Ryan Murray is the safest pick. He will be no worse than an NHL regular imo and maybe the best D available.

Morgan Rielly is a HUGE wildcard, possibly providing the most offense of any D in the draft but his injury this season has limited the ability to judge how things are developing for him or how much they might going forward. Similar situation for Galchenyuk up front, another possible stud.

Yakupov ahead of all. Grigorenko behind all above options in all likelihood, maybe ahead of Galchenyuk.

Forsberg in this conversation? He might be.

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#43 K-fed
March 07 2012, 04:33PM
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Clarko wrote:

Yeah...I'm sure they don't do any ranking before the draft. Maybe you should send them your resume!

In all seriousness, making crucial choices at the very last second is an incredibly stupid thing to do. It's amazing they actually decided on how to use the #1 pick beforehand and didn't just leave it to a coin toss the day of.

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#44 Mouse
March 07 2012, 04:36PM
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RexLibris wrote:

What about Galchenyuk?

Arguably a higher offensive potential than Grigorenko, haven't read any questions about motivation or character, and his point totals from last season (his first in the OHL) are pretty eye-popping. His scouting report suggests he is defensively aware and has a pretty high hockey IQ in reading and anticipating plays.

I know people will say that because he was injured the entire season he's too risky, but Ewanyk was injured for the better part of the season and used the time off to improve his personal game and understanding of strategy and positioning. Assuming that the Oilers draft 2nd or 3rd overall I'd be quite happy to walk away with Galchenyuk after day one.

As for a D-man, we have so many developing and the opportunity to sign free agent defenceman, or even trade for some younger ones in the way that Tampa traded for Keith Aulie. When it comes to defencemen for this team, I don't want a cornerstone d-man "right now" because his usefulness will be wasted on this team "right now". We need place holders and useful plug-and-play types to help keep our core from collapsing under the pressure until we begin to graduate our own top-level d-men.

So Galchenyuk with the 1st pick, then maybe move Peckham for an extra 2nd and take Henrik Samuelsson and maybe another d-man?

I also like Galchenyuk. Wasn't he higher ranked than Grigorenko prior to the season. He is just as big - 6'2" and will probably be bigger due to his year off. His stats were awesome last year, and was raised in NA, so the Russian factor isn't there. Plays C/L which is exactly what the Oilers need.

You still have to draft the best player available, but I'm not sure that Grigorenko is better than Galchenyuk. I think I would take either of these before any D.

What are the "pros" saying about Galchenyuk?

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#45 Sliderule
March 07 2012, 05:14PM
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The white noise we are getting about Gregorenko is from "scouts"

You only have to watch "oil change" to realize that this is a mixed group with diverse opinions.

On of the knocks on the Russian is he got a lot of points against weak teams.Doh! That's who big scorers feast on .His game by game scoring was getting points against every team until he was injured at WJC.

To my eyes at WJC he was strong

I assume the Oil will go on their own scouts rather than some unnamed other team scout.Unless the rumor was started by the Oil so they can prepare us for The selection of Murray.

Klefbom is only two months older than Murray yet it is said he is maybe two or three years away.At WJC Klefbom was an all star on the winner.Murray had a so so WJC particularly when it counted.

If they select Murray be prepared for at least a three year wait for him to contribute.

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#46 Maverick
March 07 2012, 05:17PM
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RexLibris wrote:

What about Galchenyuk?

Arguably a higher offensive potential than Grigorenko, haven't read any questions about motivation or character, and his point totals from last season (his first in the OHL) are pretty eye-popping. His scouting report suggests he is defensively aware and has a pretty high hockey IQ in reading and anticipating plays.

I know people will say that because he was injured the entire season he's too risky, but Ewanyk was injured for the better part of the season and used the time off to improve his personal game and understanding of strategy and positioning. Assuming that the Oilers draft 2nd or 3rd overall I'd be quite happy to walk away with Galchenyuk after day one.

As for a D-man, we have so many developing and the opportunity to sign free agent defenceman, or even trade for some younger ones in the way that Tampa traded for Keith Aulie. When it comes to defencemen for this team, I don't want a cornerstone d-man "right now" because his usefulness will be wasted on this team "right now". We need place holders and useful plug-and-play types to help keep our core from collapsing under the pressure until we begin to graduate our own top-level d-men.

So Galchenyuk with the 1st pick, then maybe move Peckham for an extra 2nd and take Henrik Samuelsson and maybe another d-man?

I have to agree with your comments, I think Galchenyuk will be the BPA when the Oilers will be drafting. If he wasn't injured he might have challenged for being the first pick. Hopefully the knee injury won't scare the Oilers away. If he is chosen then he can be the big 2nd line centre (6'1")behind RNH, this will make Gagner and his 5'9" expendable.

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#47 French Toast Mafia
March 07 2012, 05:26PM
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Justin R wrote:

I would like to see them not pick anyone and trade that pick for a stud D-man, but that is just me

So with the oilers last few first rounders being Ebs, PRV, Hall, and RNH, (3 of which are hands down the 3 best players on the team) why are people thinking its a wise idea to trade the pick away? Anyone want to trade one of RNH, Hall, or Ebs? No? Then maybe the best idea isn't trading away a pick in the top 3. Guys drafted in the top 3 are generally pretty good players... I think it's a pretty wise idea to draft someone instead of trading

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#48 RexLibris
March 07 2012, 06:01PM
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@Mouse

Here is the best scouting report (or collection thereof) that I have read and gives me the impression he could be a steal even at 3rd overall:

http://thehockeywriters.com/alex-galchenyuk-the-next-ones-nhl-2012-draft-prospect-profile/

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#49 sean lecomber
March 07 2012, 06:35PM
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Best player available always. You can't know what your need will be down the road when you are contending. Could be defense. Unless Petry, Musil, Klefbom and Marincin all pan out. If that happens and you passed on a centre with Grigerenko's upside you'll look like a management team incapable of big picture thinking.

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#50 Walter Sobchak
March 07 2012, 06:49PM
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I want to see the reports where people say Grigorenko has issues or questions about motivation or character!! Show me the link and the scout who said it!! I will show you the exact opposite!

Do you not think that some scouts out there put out the bad word about a kid in hopes that a team hear's that and passes on the kid? I would say absolutely.

At any rate I tend to get as much information on a player as possible before I spit out conjecture and rumors.

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/european-flavour-headlines-2012-qmjhl-crop/

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/2012-nhl-midterm-top-60-rankings-130/

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/story/?id=380587

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=58415

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/

http://www.thejuniorhockeynews.com/Grigorenko%20learning%20from%20Roy%27s%20tutelage.html

http://www.yourcanadiens.info/2012/02/why-tanked-season-will-be-worth-it.html

The Canadiens want this player bad!

On top of that I tend to agree with the other post's about Galchenyuk! i would take him before I even considered a D man

Just for the record Grigorenko was playing on one foot during the WJC and was still one of the best players. but I guess he has no heart.

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