Shocking Blue

Lowetide
March 09 2012 07:25AM

Oscar Klefbom had a strong World Junior tournament and played another season in the pro Swedish Elite League. Klefbom even scored a couple of goals right at season's end to eclipse last year's boxcars. Now, the young man--regarded as the top blueline prospect in the Oilers system--will have to hurdle many, many older kids hoping for the same thing: a pro contract this summer.

  

The number of blueline prospects who are going to push for pro roster spots this fall is ridiculous. The Edmonton Oilers are going to have to make some decisions, maybe as early as this spring. They can trade some of the surplus, they can sign the graduating class and send the rest back to junior, college or Euro pro, or they can flush a bunch of pro hockey players currently on their 50 man list (and playing in the AHL) in favor of the new hires.

NHL DEFENSEMEN

  1. Ryan Whitney (signed through 2013 summer, then UFA)
  2. Nick Schultz (signed through 2014 summer, then UFA)
  3. Ladislav Smid (signed through 2013 summer, then UFA)
  4. Andy Sutton (signed through 2013 summer, then UFA)
  5. Cam Barker (RFA this summer)
  6. Jeff Petry (RFA this summer)
  7. Theo Peckham (RFA this summer)
  8. Corey Potter (signed through 2014 summer, then UFA)

There's obviously going to be some movement this off-season (the Oilers already made a move at the deadline) so at least a couple of these names should be flushed before September. A guess might be Barker and Peckham out, but we also know that the Oilers plan on bringing in at least one defensemen. Added to the roster pressure is the distinct possibility Edmonton will select a defender with their lottery selection. If they add Ryan Murray or Griffin Reinhart, where does that put all of these kids from junior, college and European leagues?

 

SIGNED MINOR LEAGUE DEFENSEMEN

  1. Colten Teubert (signed through 2014 summer, then RFA)
  2. Taylor Fedun (signed through 2014 summer, then RFA)
  3. Alex Plante (RFA)
  4. Taylor Chorney (RFA)

Oilers have a few interesting young defensemen on AHL contracts--the crazy Russian Kirill Tulupov, for one--and they may factor in at some point, However, for the sake of conversation, let's assume the 12 names listed here are the incumbents heading into summer.  The Oilers current 50 Man Reserve List has 14 defensemen listed, down one from Johan Motin's departure early this season. If Edmonton keeps Whitney, Smid, Schultz, Sutton, Petry, Potter and the 4 AHL defenders that's 10 in total. Throw in the one defenseman Steve Tambellini plans to add to the NHL roster and the roster crunch is a real item.

 

THE BACK END 12-13

Let's approach this starting with those most likely to turn pro based on age and expiring eligibilty in their current league. There's one man who already has his entry level deal (Marincin) so it's a good guess he's going to get his ticket stamped to pro hockey in the fall.

  1. Brandon Davidson: He's 21 in August and won't be junior eligible in 2012-13. Edmonton will either sign him, trade him or walk away. Davidson's numbers (64, 13-34-47 +22) and the scouting reports I've heard suggest that he is a legit prospect.
  2. Kyle Bigos: Big man turns 23 in May and is having a solid year at Merrimack of the NCAA (31, 4-13-17). Bigos does have another season of college eligibility and the club may decide to keep him outside pro hockey for another year.
  3. Martin Marincin: Entry level contract has already been signed, he'll turn pro this fall. 54, 11-27-38 -4 and closing strong in Regina, Marincin is one of the big blueliners Edmonton is very excited about moving forward.
  4. Jeremie Blain: It sounds insane, but the depth is so impressive at this position there might be a chance that Blain plays another season in the QMJHL (he turns 20 in 2 weeks). 54, 9-39-48 +26 and the scouting reports say nice things about him.
  5. Oscar Klefbom: No pressure to bring him over and put him in the AHL/NHL, but the club probably wants to sign him and take away any possible draft re-entry for 2013. 33, 2-0-2 -1 for his SEL season, he was staring at goose eggs all season before punching through. I have no idea if they'll sign him, but do believe there's a chance they leave the top D prospect in Sweden next year while breaking in (at least) a trio of youngsters in the AHL.
  6. Martin Gernat: 55, 8-40-48 +38 is incredible production for a 5th round pick and he's still over a year from his 20th birthday. He should be back in Edmonton playing with the Oil Kings in the fall, although it does appear he could qualify for AHL action as early as this fall. The money quote is "Players drafted from European and NCAA leagues aren't held to these terms" and the Oilers selected him out of Kosice of the Czech juniors. Scouting reports are exceptional. **I'd love input into this item, because I'm not 100% certain I'm reading this correctly.
  7. David Musil:  Musil plays a very mature game for his age and anyone observing him during the WJ's knows how much he's capable of doing defensively. 56, 5-19-24 +13 with Vancouver of the WHL. Musil's only chance to turn pro is as an Edmonton Oiler, so he is not a signing priority over the summer.

The Oilers have 5 or 6 defensemen who they could sign and turn pro, and the other two have a chance to get signed and then returned to junior for a final season. They're graduating by the 6-pak.

 

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The Oilers are going to sign as many as 6 amateur defensemen from their previous drafts to pro contracts this summer. It's a good bet that at least one of them spends their rookie season in Stockton and there's a chance Edmonton either makes a trade involving one of them or walks someone like Brandon Davidson. Or they might ask Kyle Bigos to stay in college for a final season.  The numbers don't add up. Believe it or not, there's too much on the way. I expect we'll see a trade before or at the draft involving one or more of the prospect blue.

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#1 Dave Lumley
March 09 2012, 07:33AM
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Loks like we have a fist ful of defencemen coming!

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#2 Time Travelling Sean
March 09 2012, 12:41PM
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What would it take to get Dougie Hamilton? Klefbom and a 2nd? I'd give up MPS and a prospect or 3rd for him.

If we draft Grig or Yak we have our top 6 set.

Then some vets with some prospects for our 3/4 lines.

Then our D prospects will be packaged and upgraded or given a shot to stick with the AHL/NHL.

All we need is a goalie.

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#3 gcw_rocks
March 09 2012, 08:10AM
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LT: One answer is to offer Chorney an AHL contract. He MIGHT get an offer from another club, but its worth th risk. He does not have an NHL future with the Oilers so why waste an NHL contract spot on him?

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#4 They're $hittie
March 09 2012, 08:37AM
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Chorney, peckham, barker, gone, -3

Bigos one more year in college, -1

Blain one more year Q -1

Gernat and Musil on more year Juniors -2.

Kelfbom has to come over to get ice time.

NHL DEPTH CHART - Petry, Whitney, UFA, Smid, Schultz, Potter, Sutton.

AHL DEPTH CHART, Fedun, Tuebert, Marancin, Davidson, Plante, Klembom 1 AHL contract

Evaluate the rest next year and see what to do instead of jumping the gun. Nice problem to have every year going forward.

2014 Tuebert replaces sutton, plante gone,

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#5 Quicksilver ballet
March 09 2012, 01:01PM
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Since losing became our best option in 2010, why are we even concerned about who's coaching this hockey club or who's playing goal on a nightly basis?

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#6 Rama Lama
March 09 2012, 04:04PM
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Before we start entertaining any thoughts of trading this guy, or selecting that guy, we need to address Mr. Tamby.....aka Mr. Dithers! He needs to go to the light!

I'm hoping that he lets others select the appropriate draft selection and that given players that are very close on the tangibles, they select heart ( like TH) over anything else.

Surely to goodness we can package some prospects and land a legit top two d-man at this upcoming draft.

I'm getting tired of waiting.

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#7 Dipstick
March 09 2012, 04:08PM
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They're $hittie wrote:

why does everyone want to rush our d here. We have a good problem with a good solution with the exception of klefboms playing time. Leave the kids in junior and the older kids in the ahl. Maximize and slow there development.

This is the first time in a long time when there is no need to rush. No one in the AHL is ready for NHL (tuebert is close and will eventually replace sutton).

SO let them play where we can have them all and than make trades when there value is higher, you know who is better and who is the right fit.

Murray is the only player that may need to be rushed as he may not be challenged in juniors. Leave him there for another year.

Also for all you grigorenko fans, if we draft him and trade gagner, we are setting our rebuild back another two years. Even if he out scores Gagner, he will in no way shape or formplay to the defensive level gagner has grown to this year or be able to match ice time. Scoring is not the problem, lack of skill is not the problem, defense is the problem. And unless suter likes edmonton, we do not have tradable assests that is going to upgrade this teams defense very much.

Am I missing something? I have never considered Gagner as defensively exceptional. I can not believe that Grigorenko could be much worse.

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#8 Quicksilver ballet
March 09 2012, 05:14PM
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Whoever thought if the Oilers could improve their goals against considerably, bump up their F/O percentage by 5 points, and had the best powerplay in the league...and we'd still be at the bottom of the league.

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#9 pelhem grenville
March 09 2012, 06:08PM
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...Q has a friend...yo Buzz...u da bes...he's (Q) always gettin' crapped on for that deadpan way you speak of here ... only a few, i being one are happy to bask in his reflective glow...

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#10 TigerUnderGlass
March 09 2012, 11:16PM
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@Buzz Lightbeer

Geez,Last time I looked Suter was a RFA.

So I guess it's been quite a while since you've looked?

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#11 michael
March 09 2012, 07:34AM
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Yakuov. Nuff said.

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#12 michael
March 09 2012, 08:19AM
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Would you trade Klefbom for a chance at Rheinhart? Or would you pick Rheinhart at 2? I would take Yakupov or Gigerenko. I just keep thinking back to the article that Gregor wrote about how many Dman make it to the NHL who were high draft picks. You can never have enough scoring. I think we have alot of 3-4s in terms of prospects. We need to trade(Suter) for a 1-2 dman. We have enough depth in terms of prospects to make an offer this off season.

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#13 speeds
March 09 2012, 08:37AM
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It's hard to know what the Oilers will do - not too many leaks out of the head office. There weren't many hints that Gilbert was on the market, for example.

Were I in charge, I'd probably look to send all of Gernat, Musil, and Klefbom back to their current teams, but would try to sign them this summer provided they wouldn't count against the 50 contract limit (I don't think they would, based on age, but I haven't checked their birthdays).

Carrying 8 D might help alleviate the roster crunch, but I'm not sure it's THAT big a problem to have one or two of the prospects play big minutes in the ECHL until injuries (inevitably?) hit at the NHL/AHL levels above them.

Also, the Oilers will potentially have Fedun coming back, so he'd be another D in the system.

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#14 speeds
March 09 2012, 08:44AM
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With Klefbom in particular, I can see the arguments both ways. If you think his development is better off in the AHL, by all means you make room for him provided he's allowed and willing to play in the AHL.

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#15 butter
March 09 2012, 08:46AM
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Any chances of bringing klefbom over to oklahoma for the playoff drive? Would be smrt!

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#16 robinrussia
March 09 2012, 08:48AM
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NHL Ready prospects will be gold in 3 years. Invest in quality D prospects, develop for 3-4 years and use them as trade bait. Similar to Nashville but better managed.

What would Blum fetch today? What would Elis fetch? What would Sutter/Weber fetch?

Probably a pretty good crop of FWDs and Pick.

I see them as currency. Get more and more and cause yourself a headache trying to keep the best ones and shipping out the "POS" D Men.

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#17 I'm a Scientist!
March 09 2012, 08:48AM
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With such a 'back log' of D in our system, wouldn't it make sense to draft a forward with the second pick, instead of a D? All of our really good forward prospects are already in the NHL. Hamilton? Pitlick? Umm... maybe?

Unless a trade can be made that trims a bit of the fat off the D...

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#18 D
March 09 2012, 08:54AM
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LT,

Do you see a timing problem here? By the time this group of defensemen get NHL ready, we could start losing some of the talent up front? I just can't help but think that in the NHL today, the champions manage to time the peak of their forwards and defense into a winning team.

Thanks the for Ann Margret picture. I've been told Elvis never got over her.

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#19 Dman09
March 09 2012, 09:04AM
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I would let Barker, Peckham, Chorney, Plante all go. I don't see any of them being that useful. Teubert I would look at trading and give his spot to Tulupov. The guys numbers are pretty decent and his physical game is off the charts.

That leaves 6 NHL D and the ability for tambo to add two. Tuebert could be used in part of a trade for one along with Peckham's rights as I believe he is still a RFA.

We'll have to see where Fedun is come training camp but he looked to be NHL ready before being injured, something to keep in mind as he is a older prospect from the College ranks that is going to be more mature than most anyway.

I say Marincin, Gernat, possibly Klefbom(I'm not sure the development is there in the elite league and his stats don't really show anything, but we need to see development and progress), Davidson, and Blain should all be in OKC or Stockton next season. None of them are going to progress much in the Junior leagues and in regards to Davidson, you should at least give him a year to find out what you have in him in a more competitive league before sending him away.

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#20 Oiler Al
March 09 2012, 09:06AM
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Curious who Tambilni would be targetting for the addition of veteran D man. I dont think Suter or Webber would have interest in coming to the Oilers. Is it possible they have a target at this years draft for a D man.? I know people are suggesting it takes up to 3 yrs. to bring on a defense man into the NHL.There have been players, like Hedman, Daughty, Karlsson, DelZatto, etc. that came on board in the first or secdon year. IF their intended draft, pick is of this quality, they shouldn't draft a Defense man.

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#21 Dman09
March 09 2012, 09:10AM
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D wrote:

LT,

Do you see a timing problem here? By the time this group of defensemen get NHL ready, we could start losing some of the talent up front? I just can't help but think that in the NHL today, the champions manage to time the peak of their forwards and defense into a winning team.

Thanks the for Ann Margret picture. I've been told Elvis never got over her.

I think with the system they are trying to setup its not about timing at all. They want to have a continous flow to be a Contender every year not just in a cycle. Similar to what Detroit has done.

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#22 Walter Sobchak
March 09 2012, 09:11AM
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The only D-man on the Oilers active roster who I wouldn't move are.

Petry-Smid-Shultz and on the outside hanging on is Potter!

This is borderline the worst Defense in the NHL.

Those kid's or prospects you speak of are also no where near NHL ready and using this years draft for a D-man is just another 3 to 4 years of waiting.

Time to get rid of the junk.

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#23 Dman09
March 09 2012, 09:16AM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Curious who Tambilni would be targetting for the addition of veteran D man. I dont think Suter or Webber would have interest in coming to the Oilers. Is it possible they have a target at this years draft for a D man.? I know people are suggesting it takes up to 3 yrs. to bring on a defense man into the NHL.There have been players, like Hedman, Daughty, Karlsson, DelZatto, etc. that came on board in the first or secdon year. IF their intended draft, pick is of this quality, they shouldn't draft a Defense man.

If you pay attention to the wording that Tambo uses when he talks about it he makes sure that he puts wieght on adding "Vet Defenseman". So to me that would say its not about who they are drafting but I do think it likely that he already has a few trades in the works for the off season that teams didn't want to complete during the season. He may also still try and find something on the FA market but not likely a top Dman.

I wish they would have used Tulupov more this year in OKC. His numbers are as good as the other defenseman and I would like to see what he could do in a bigger role. If RNH stirs the drink, Tulupov shakes the whole damn Bar.

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#24 Archaeologuy
March 09 2012, 09:30AM
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Draft whoever will be better. Period.

As for the graduating talent, make room for them on the farm and leave guys like Klefbom in Europe.

Let the AHL team be filled with rookies. It's fine for the club to lose a bit under those conditions. There is no connection between AHL success and NHL Success. But if the Barons are grooming a bevy of Oiler defensemen for the future then good on them.

Winning is nice, but it's secondary in OKC to development.

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#25 MrCondor
March 09 2012, 09:33AM
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If they sign Plante and Chorney again, I'm going to start watching baseball instead.

I hate baseball.

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#26 Dipstick
March 09 2012, 09:48AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Draft whoever will be better. Period.

As for the graduating talent, make room for them on the farm and leave guys like Klefbom in Europe.

Let the AHL team be filled with rookies. It's fine for the club to lose a bit under those conditions. There is no connection between AHL success and NHL Success. But if the Barons are grooming a bevy of Oiler defensemen for the future then good on them.

Winning is nice, but it's secondary in OKC to development.

With a 50 contract limit and the need for mentoring, I am sure that they will have some quality AHL vets on the roster in OKC.

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#27 Archaeologuy
March 09 2012, 09:55AM
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@Dipstick

At some point Chorney and Plante will be those AHL vets.

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#28 Dipstick
March 09 2012, 10:03AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

At some point Chorney and Plante will be those AHL vets.

I don't think that they are quite yet ready to mentor the new arrivals, but at some point that will probably be their place. I think that Helmer and Montgomery are a good presence there.

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#29 Archaeologuy
March 09 2012, 10:11AM
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@Dipstick

No doubt about it, but I'd drop Montgomery in a heart beat if needed.

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#30 speeds
March 09 2012, 10:17AM
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@MrCondor

I haven't been watching any AHL games, but wasn't Plante an AHL all star? What's wrong with keeping a guy like that around, one that (I don't think) hasn't played enough games to be considered an AHL veteran?

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#31 Oilcruzer
March 09 2012, 10:28AM
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Chorney is developing nicely on the farm. He's by far their top D man.

Any news on Fedun rehab?

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#32 Bryzarro World
March 09 2012, 11:06AM
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butter wrote:

Any chances of bringing klefbom over to oklahoma for the playoff drive? Would be smrt!

Ya.. Great idea. Bring a guy here to diff style of game and just toss him into a playoff setting. Easy Homer...

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#33 etownman
March 09 2012, 11:08AM
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I would love to see Teddy evolve into that multi-purpose guy at 4th line LW! Have no faith in Eager to do his job & I know Pecks understands his job! Barker has to go, no question. Chorney as well.

What this team truly needs is grit! Cole was Mr. tough guy last night? Give me a break, we need toughness, changes the whole feeling of a hockey club when you have the security blanket. Team will play different.

DD's got to go, I'd keep Khabby for one more year rather than Dubnyk. He'l a cluster f**k waiting to happen, team plays different in front of a goalie like that! Just my thoughts.

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#34 Sliderule
March 09 2012, 11:16AM
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Your article reinforces the argument that the Oil should not draft a defenceman with their first pick.

The prospects they have are further along in their development than the defence draft prospects.This was supposed to be the year of the defender but the boxes don't show any huge talent.

Our defense will look better when the tank is over and we give most of the minutes to Smid ,Petry and Schultz instead of guys like Peckham and Barker.

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#35 Dipstick
March 09 2012, 11:26AM
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I hope that Moores, Sillinger and Serdachney can separate the wheat from the chaff. Some of the older prospects will have to be pruned to make room for the junior prospects that either have to be signed or lost. Davidson's unsigned status has me concerned. His continued development may tempt him to go back into the draft to place higher and get more ELC bucks.

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#36 D
March 09 2012, 11:27AM
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Dman09 wrote:

I think with the system they are trying to setup its not about timing at all. They want to have a continous flow to be a Contender every year not just in a cycle. Similar to what Detroit has done.

I hope you are right. But what happens when it becomes more difficult to refill the pipeline - i.e. when drafting becomes more difficult because of not being in the lottery?

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#37 RexLibris
March 09 2012, 11:57AM
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I agree that Chorney will likely be offered an AHL contract, or a two-way deal that means he has to clear waivers, once again, at the end of training camp. I don't think the Oilers will be as worried about losing him next year as they were this year. There is also a slim chance that he is moved at the draft for a late pick (5th round would be the highest I could foresee).

As for Davidson, I see him entering the AHL/ECHL, while Blain, Bigos, Musil and Gernat are all returned to their junior teams for one more year. Klefbom probably returns to Sweden, I recall reading back in the summer that the Oilers were very likely to let him play out his two year contract overseas before introducing him to the AHL (likely for one season to adjust). Marincin is the only one I see turning pro and entering the AHL next season, which is fine for me. The following season our AHL defensive corps will probably be almost entirely new with Klefbom, Musil, Gernat, Blain, Davidson, Bigos and Blain all equally likely to start the season in OKC. One of those group, as you have stated LT, is probably traded out of town.

This timeline also offers the possibility of another season to determine the possibilities of players like Plante, Teubert, Peckham, and Fedun (Tulupov seems like a longshot, but a fan favourite because of his potential and novelty) and then trade one or more of them away at crunch time to begin the process of draft and development all over again.

Not a bad way to manage players as assets: Grab a handful of prospects, pick out the gems and best-fit players, then try to find homes for the rest and recoup picks to draft more players.

The absolute absurdity of the defensive depth and the contract juggling that is going to have to happen to fit them all in is the reason I have very few concerns about this aspect of the Oiler's organization.

I also think that once the young defenders graduate to the NHL we will still have one or two veteran leaders on the blueline to help mentor them and a veteran and effective forward corps that can make their job easier with their responsible zone coverage and back-checking. I know that's a long way down the road, but that is my best guess as to the overall goal for the management group as well.

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#38 Oilcruzer
March 09 2012, 12:04PM
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@RexLibris

A fifth rounder? Even if he becomes a career AHL'er with the odd call up (and that's the very worst he will become), those guys are important and worth a helluva lot more than that. A 3 at least. Try and get a starting first line AHL D in the third round... not likely unless lucky - that's where firsts end up

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#39 Clay Rubie
March 09 2012, 12:11PM
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Man, if they hold on to someone like Chorney over Davidson, then Tambo does nothing to shed the "Mr. Dithers" moniker in my eyes.

I'm also begging Baby Jesus that they let Barker go. What a waste of a roster spot.

I would hope that they hang on to all 7 prospects (plus the one(s) they draft this year), as their potential upsides are arguably better than what all of Chorney, Teubert, Plante, and even Peckham have shown.

I got a chuckle out of you predicting a trade LT, but I'm hoping for it as well. I'm hoping for one that involves the 2nd overall pick, plus whatever else needed from the prospect shelf (anything but the Kids, actually) for a proven #1 Dman.

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#40 Marshall Law
March 09 2012, 12:12PM
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etownman wrote:

I would love to see Teddy evolve into that multi-purpose guy at 4th line LW! Have no faith in Eager to do his job & I know Pecks understands his job! Barker has to go, no question. Chorney as well.

What this team truly needs is grit! Cole was Mr. tough guy last night? Give me a break, we need toughness, changes the whole feeling of a hockey club when you have the security blanket. Team will play different.

DD's got to go, I'd keep Khabby for one more year rather than Dubnyk. He'l a cluster f**k waiting to happen, team plays different in front of a goalie like that! Just my thoughts.

Khabibulin has only won one game since the new year. Dubnyk, while less than spectacular at minding the twine, actually gives the team a chance to win when he's in there. Aside from the first month of the season, Khabibulin has been atrocious.

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#41 Quicksilver ballet
March 09 2012, 12:13PM
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I admire your willingness to try and remain positive LT but as we scan through the list of NHL and AHL defenceman we can't help but feel a little underwhelmed. 30th in 2010, 30th in 2011 and 29th in 2012 with this group....who are we trying to kid here with this ensemble.

This is hockey hell without a No.1 or 2 guy on the back end. We're left with fools gold and a lifetimes supply of 4-8 d'men in Edmonton and Oklahoma. Smid and Petry (if he can continue to make progress)look to be keepers, liquidate the rest.

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#42 Fresh Mess
March 09 2012, 12:27PM
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No one is going to give up a third round pick for Chorney. You can get players like him for free via waivers or UFA.

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#43 etownman
March 09 2012, 12:45PM
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Marshall Law wrote:

Khabibulin has only won one game since the new year. Dubnyk, while less than spectacular at minding the twine, actually gives the team a chance to win when he's in there. Aside from the first month of the season, Khabibulin has been atrocious.

The thing is, Khabby has only lost once since last Wednesday...:-)

Here's my thoughts, we've been watching Devan for quite awhile now & I just don't think he's going to be a championship calibre goalie! Khabby has been & if you watched Oil Change you can see he adds excellent veteran experience to this team. I think he also got banged up a little bit towards the middle of this season & it hampered him a bit. He still has better overall stats compared to DD. We've got some good prospects coming up but it's going to take time to develop them so let's get other tenders in here to see if we can strike gold, like Thomas in Boston.

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#44 Team Hall
March 09 2012, 01:08PM
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Can we please be patient with our prospects and leave them to stew in the A for a few years instead of rushing them along to the NHL to be our saviour only to see them fall flat?

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#45 gravis82
March 09 2012, 01:22PM
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I think gregor is horcov

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#46 Romulus' Apotheosis
March 09 2012, 01:37PM
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I've never heard that Shocking Blue version... only the Bananarama version of my youth.

But I can't get that opening guitar strum out of my head... it is so familiar!!

I can't find an exact replica or precursor... but it may have been inspired by or of the same rock sensibility as these two other late 60s jams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg5t7T5_rR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AKbUm8GrbM

can anyone else think of a 60s rock tune with similar strum opening?

anyway... let's send Barker away asap. Peckham... package him to someone who values empty-headed "truculence." And, for the love of God, let the Kid Ds ripen anywhere but the NHL. From now on only hire NHL ready players and keep the kids away from the team until they can play at that level. More and more the strategy of developing D at the NHL level looks like an excuse to save money on NHL talent and/or incompetence of pro-scouting/pro-recruitment.

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#47 Old Soldier
March 09 2012, 02:05PM
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I am not as versed in the managerial side of things as some of the posters, but I have to wonder what effect the new CBA may play in this. With the possibility of the league revamping (again) ELC and 2nd contracts, wouldn't it be more frugal for the Oilers to wait and see what happens with the CBA before inking some of the prospects to contracts.

I think the luckiest thing to happen to the Oilers is/was the new CBA. With the new focus on 2nd contract restrictions, it couldn't come at a better time for a team with the young talent the Oil have and the desire/need to keep them.

As far as the prospects themselves, let the competition and pressure of going into rookie camp dictate some of the moves. Look at Fedun /Potter /Tulupov this past fall. Management has said they want to inspire competition, and as far as the D-men I think they are beginning to achieve that.

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#48 Dave Lumley
March 09 2012, 02:57PM
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@Dman09

Let Peckham go? Last year he was much more solid, this year is a step back in development.

Last year everyone was trading and dumping Smid. Thank god the management didn't listen then and hope they are not listening now with everyone beating up on poor Teddy.

Teddy has that delicious mean streak and is not afraid to drop the gloves if neccesary. Let him work through his problems.

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#49 Dave Lumley
March 09 2012, 02:59PM
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@Archaeologuy

"Winning is nice, but it's secondary in OKC to development".

But winning and fighting playoff battles is part of the development.

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#50 Archaeologuy
March 09 2012, 03:07PM
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@Dave Lumley

I cannot find any connection between AHL success and NHL success. If there were one, then the teams with the AHL clubs that fought the most playoff battles would churn out the best prospects.

Learning how to win is important, but I'd much rather give the Klefboms of the world 18 minutes a night in all situations for 70+ games instead of Kevin Montgomery. And I dont care if that means the Barons lose more.

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