OILERS WIN!

Lowetide
April 10 2012 06:45PM

We know now where Edmonton will pick in the 2012 draft (barring trade). Winning the lottery creates all kinds of options. Who is the best prospect available? What's out there? Where do Edmonton's picks come from? Who are the important men in the amateur procurement department?

Stu MacGregor is the Oilers scouting director. His team consists of several men who contribute but rarely get a mention. Leading up to the draft last season, the Oilers published their scouts names and areas they cover. Since it doesn’t happen often, I wanted to take the time to post it so we can know the names of the men doing all this good work.

  • Bill Dandy: QMJHL
  • Brad Davis: OHL, tier 2 leagues in Q and O
  • Kent Hawley: OHL, QMJHL, tier 2 leagues in Q and O
  • Bob Brown: WHL, tier 2 leagues, USHL
  • Jim Crosson: WHL, tier 2 leagues, USHL
  • Scott Harlow: NCAA and American junior leagues (east coast)
  • Frank Musil: Europe
  • Pelle Eklund: Europe
  • Robert Nordmark: Europe
  • Stu MacGregor: WHL, cross checks the world

I believe the list to be correct along with their areas of coverage. We do know that the Oilers like to get their scouts in front of the top candidates and that MacGregor will have seen these players multiple times.

OILERS DRAFT TRENDS-SOME REAL LOOKERS!

Stu MacGregor--since becoming scouting director before the 2008 draft--has changed the Oilers' draft may. He is using precious early picks on Swedes. Since taking over in 2008, two first round picks, one 2nd rder and a fourth round selection have been used on Swedish prospects. For the record, this is where Stu's team shops at the entry draft:

  1. WHL: 10 (most recent: RNH, Musil, Ewanyk)
  2. Sweden: 4 (most recent: Klefbom)
  3. Finland: 4 (most recent: Perhonen and Tuohimaa)
  4. QMJHL: 3 (most recent Jeremie Blain)
  5. OHL: 3 (most recent: Tobias Rieder)
  6. BCJHL: 2 (most recent: Kellen Jones)
  7. NCAA: 2 (most recent: Dillon Simpson)
  8. Slovakia: 2 (most recent: Martin Gernat)
  9. Belarus: 1 (most recent: Kristians Pelss)
  10. USHS: 1 (most recent: Troy Hesketh)

WHL represents 31% and the entire CHL accounts for 50% of the selections. Sweden and Finland are CHL east and 25% of the selections come from those two countries. Three quarters of the MBS era picks come from the CHL and Swe/Fin. Add the two BCJHL selections into the group and there’s a pattern forming after 4 seasons of this drafting team.

Reading the tea leaves, there’s a good chance that the WHL, OHL, QMJHL, Sweden, Finland and tier 2 junior (BCJHL, AJHL, USHL, etc) will be hotbeds for the Oilers.

An interesting scenario exists with regard to Russians. Edmonton has steered clear since 2008 but that may change with two CHL draft eligibles from the Motherland. Nail Yakupov and Milhail Grigorenko are outstanding young talents and should go at or near the top of the draft.

After winning the lottery tonight, Edmonton's choices are threefold: take the BPA (Yakupov), trade the pick or select someone #1 overall who is not the best player available.

Early thoughts: take the Russian, don't look back.

Bob McKenzie's top 10

  1. NAIL YAKUPOV
  2. MIKHAIL GRIGORENKO
  3. RYAN MURRAY
  4. FILIP FORSBERG
  5. MATT DUMBA
  6. ALEX GALCHENYUK
  7. JACOB TROUBA
  8. GRIFFIN REINHART
  9. MORGAN REILLY
  10. RADEK FAKSA
  11. TEUVO TERAVAINEN

Nail Yakupov lays it all out about Team Canada after Russia beats them 6-5 in the 2012 World Junior Hockey Championships in Calgary

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Kid loves to win and has ridiculous skill. Hall-Eberle, Nuge-Nail? Lordy.

Next up: NHL equivalencies.

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#1 The Soup Fascist
April 10 2012, 07:29PM
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Johns wrote:

Pretty funny these Oiler fans so excited . Guess what your still a bad team.

Don't forget that

Great Post, Cletus

Unfortunately my friend, a couple of small grammar problems.

"Your" is an adjective to describe something you possess. As in "Your head is up your a$$."

"You're" is a contraction of the words "you" and "are". As in "You're embarassing yourself, you mouth-breathing hillbilly".

Don't forget that.

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#2 The Soup Fascist
April 10 2012, 07:42PM
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Johns wrote:

@ The Soup Fascist

I'm suppose to be impressed on your grammar on a hockey blog.

This is where you score victories.

sad

The word your are searching for is "supposed". Keep on "livin' the life, Jethro". Jeff Foxworthy would have no new material if not for you and the rest of "flame nation". Big hand is past the 6, I'll let you be off to "pick up Ma" at the French Maid.

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#3 John Chambers
April 10 2012, 09:18PM
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Re-build = over.

For the next decade this team is going to score at will. It was worth it. All this awful hockey will have been well worth it.

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#5 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 10 2012, 09:49PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

Good idea to draft Yakupov?

Or bad idea?

Why bother.

I'll give you his answer:

"something something Wellwood... something something Seguin... something something irrelevant stat... something something florida panthers... something something... burke (oh yea... not that one anymore)... something something disappear..."

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#6 dougtheslug
April 11 2012, 09:08AM
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@DSF

This guy is a riot! After months of touting the Florida Panther model of success (the most unsuccessful franchise in NHL history, a team that made the playoffs despite losing 6 more games than they won) , he has now shifted gears and is promoting the LA Kings method, (which has produced exactly zero Stanley Cups in their 45 year history), a team thar limped into this years playoffs in eighth place, with the second worst offence in the league. And he continues to lecture Oilers Nation on his brilliant insight that the Oil need better defence. As if we didn't know that since Pronger left town. Troll on, mighty DSF! And good luck with that Panther-King final. Vegas odds list it at 250-1. About the odds of your posts being taken seriously.

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#7 Johe
April 10 2012, 10:06PM
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The following is an actual conversation between Oilers GM Steve Tambellini and Flames GM Jay Feaster.*

Tambellini: Hey my friend from down the highway. Just wanted to congratulate you and your team on making the playoffs this year.

Feaster: mumble mumble mumble

Tambellini: Wait! What's that?! You missed the playoffs??!! I'm sorry to hear that. I was sure you'd said before the season you would make it. Oh well. Congratulations on your first overall draft pick. (Dumb grin begins spreading on face) They're handing these things out like lollipops!

Feaster: mumble mumble mumble

Tambellini: Wait! What's that?! You didn't get one??!! That's odd. We have three! Oh well. I'm sure you'll enjoy your top pick just about as much.

Feaster: mumble mumble mumble

Tambellini: Wait! What's that?! You have the worst draft pick of any non-playoff team??!! Ouch!!

Feaster: mumble mumble mumble i want a cheeseburger mumble mumble mumble

Tambellini: Well, sorry to bother you Jay. Good luck next year. Enjoy that oasis in Calgary while I wander through this Edmonton desert. Maniacal laugh. Maniacal laugh. *Not really

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#8 The Soup Fascist
April 10 2012, 11:23PM
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DSF wrote:

You don't know much about hockey, do you?

Thanks for responding with facts and a logical argument. I will assume your "I am taking my ball and going home" response indicates that you concede that using the LA Kings as a model franchise was asinine.

While you are feverishly looking up who Sam Pollock is please allow me to congratulate you on your ability to not allow facts to stand in the way of your opinions.

Goodnight and be well.

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#9 Jeavy
April 11 2012, 10:31AM
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Does anybody who is debating drafting or trading know Yakupov broke stamkos junior records. Ill take a 50 goal scorer everyday.

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#11 Time Travelling Sean
April 10 2012, 07:08PM
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Johns wrote:

Pretty funny these Oiler fans so excited . Guess what your still a bad team.

Don't forget that

STFU LOSER.

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#12 Spydyr
April 10 2012, 07:30PM
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CC wrote:

I hope the Oilers bring in an experienced Russian to help Yakupov. One guy I was thinking was Nik Antropov has great size (6'4 230 lbs), can play all three forward positions, can play on the top 3 lines, has a 4.75 million salary next year and is coming off a 34 point season. The Jets would likely be looking to move from that contract.

I remember reading an article when Jagr came into the league, the Pens traded for Jan Hrdina late in the season and after that move Jagr felt more comfortable and started to play better. Antropov could be that type of teammate for Yakupov.

CC

The Oilers have an experienced Russian.He tries to play goal for them.

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#13 The Soup Fascist
April 10 2012, 08:11PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

The Soup Fascist = My new favorite commenter.

Appreciate it but I am just another frustrated Oil Fan hoping this ship turns around. These Flame Trolls are so idiotic ... This stuff just writes ("rights" for you Flames Fans) itself.

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#14 Archaeologuy
April 10 2012, 09:21PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Re-build = over.

For the next decade this team is going to score at will. It was worth it. All this awful hockey will have been well worth it.

*high fives*

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#15 Oilcruzer
April 10 2012, 09:58PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Ryan Johanssen and......

Scarlet?

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#16 PeOiler
April 10 2012, 06:46PM
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Tird fist?!?!

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#17 Risto
April 10 2012, 06:48PM
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Pick the Russian and let the kids play... wow am I ever happy!

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#18 I'm a Scientist!
April 10 2012, 07:13PM
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CQYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*

*SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in Russian**

**really

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#19 Time Travelling Sean
April 10 2012, 07:21PM
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OMG????? WE ARE GETTING THE ONE PLAYER THAT IS HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE AND LAUGHING AT COLUMBUS ANDDDDD PEOPLE ARE TRADING AWAY PLAYERS ALREADY???

WHEN IS DEPTH A BAD THING?

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#20 rubbertrout
April 10 2012, 07:54PM
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Jesse wrote:

Trade 1st+ for Nash,

Hall-RNH-Eberle Nash-Gagner-Hemsky

Thats a scary top 6

Are you on crack? Nash?

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#21 dougtheslug
April 10 2012, 07:58PM
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Johns wrote:

Pretty funny these Oiler fans so excited . Guess what your still a bad team.

Don't forget that

Guess what YOU'RE still a bad speller. Don't forget that. Good luck passing grade three.

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#22 Wax Man Riley
April 10 2012, 07:59PM
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Johns wrote:

RNH+ Eberle +Hall + Yakupov = 4 midgets in the NHL

RNH+ Eberle +Hall + Yakupov = 4 - hundred points per year?

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#23 Wax Man Riley
April 10 2012, 08:03PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

The word your are searching for is "supposed". Keep on "livin' the life, Jethro". Jeff Foxworthy would have no new material if not for you and the rest of "flame nation". Big hand is past the 6, I'll let you be off to "pick up Ma" at the French Maid.

The Soup Fascist = My new favorite commenter.

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#24 Oilcan
April 10 2012, 08:32PM
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The Nation really needs to get a 'dislike' or negative props button maybe call its 'nrops' (Name is in the works....).

To the man who suggested trading Gagner and Hemsky for another top 5 pick all I can say 'nrops' to you, you know who you are...

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#25 John Chambers
April 10 2012, 10:27PM
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@DSF

Top NHL players are going to be pretty keen to play for the Oil. Last year they recruited Belanger because he saw what was coming, and this summer we'll get someone of even higher calibre.

Playing with the kids will be all kinds of enticing to UFA's. If that doesn't suffice, we can always come to the table with the same thing that gets you laid: CASH!

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#26 Peterborough
April 11 2012, 12:55AM
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Why do people bother reading DSF's posts?

Let alone respond to them.

Don't feed the trolls!

PS: this is indeed a good day.

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#28 Spydyr
April 10 2012, 07:23PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

OMG????? WE ARE GETTING THE ONE PLAYER THAT IS HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE AND LAUGHING AT COLUMBUS ANDDDDD PEOPLE ARE TRADING AWAY PLAYERS ALREADY???

WHEN IS DEPTH A BAD THING?

OMG......you caps lock is stuck.Might want to take a look at that.

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#29 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 10 2012, 07:27PM
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Poor Columbus. Their Fail for Nail, was a Total Fail.

Edmonton just became the second most hated team in the NHL.

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#30 CC
April 10 2012, 07:29PM
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I hope the Oilers bring in an experienced Russian to help Yakupov. One guy I was thinking was Nik Antropov has great size (6'4 230 lbs), can play all three forward positions, can play on the top 3 lines, has a 4.75 million salary next year and is coming off a 34 point season. The Jets would likely be looking to move from that contract.

I remember reading an article when Jagr came into the league, the Pens traded for Jan Hrdina late in the season and after that move Jagr felt more comfortable and started to play better. Antropov could be that type of teammate for Yakupov.

CC

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#31 Spydyr
April 10 2012, 07:37PM
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Jesse wrote:

Trade 1st+ for Nash,

Hall-RNH-Eberle Nash-Gagner-Hemsky

Thats a scary top 6

The most points Nash has had is 79. He quit on his team.Rumour has it he is a dressing room disruption.He is 28 and demands huge money 7 million a year.

The kids will need new contracts starting next summer.

Or we could take another kid head and shoulders above his draft class.Pay him entry level money.Have him grow with the other kids.

Seems like a no brainer to me.So yes I'm sure Tambo will trade the pick for Nash.

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#32 The Soup Fascist
April 10 2012, 07:51PM
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JohnS wrote:

@ The Soup Fascist

Your friends must be impressed with your witty responses.

Your Mother not so much.

My Mother is in a coma.

(Get one of your friends from Edmonton to explain in to you, Jeb. It's funny. Honest)

I would continue to have this Battle of wits but I won't fight an unarmed man. I am ooooot.

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#33 DrDave
April 10 2012, 08:36PM
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NAIL it down boys! Who needs D when you score 8 goals a game!!!

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#34 Crondor
April 10 2012, 08:45PM
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steve tambellini should be fired for that smile!!! "oh, look at me and the great job i've done! we get to pick number one again! i'm the best GM ever."

LAME!

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#35 Wax Man Riley
April 10 2012, 09:09PM
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renneyfan wrote:

Yakupov seems like an injury prone forward who will be concussed repeatedly in the NHL before he reaches the age of 20. I also think his personality wouldn`t be a good fit on the team. He would need another young Russian on the team to make him feel comfortable in Edmonton, and that`s something I`m not sure the Oilers want to invest in.

Trade the pick to Columbus for Ryan Johanssen. Let them handle this head-case.

Can you expand why he is a head case and why he wouldn't be a fit in the dressing room? How do you know he is injury prone?

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#36 The Soup Fascist
April 10 2012, 10:04PM
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DSF wrote:

I think you have to draft him but adding him and doing nothing else is pretty much a waste of time.

The ELC's of the youngsters are being burned off at a great rate so following through on the "6 year rebuild" isn't going to work.

If you look at how Lombardi rebuilt the Kings, he accumulated assets for 4 years and then started making moves. Tambellini is now entering year 4.

BUT, Lombardi built from the back end out with Quick, Bernier, Doughty, Johnson, Voynov etc. and then started adding complimentary forwards.

The Oilers, conversly, are loaded with high end forwards but have black holes on defense and in goal.

So how do the Oilers address those issues?

Gagner has plateaued, Hemsky just had a dreadful season and the rest of the bottom 6 and defense are pretty much junk.

How do you get the goaltending and defense you need in a time frame that fits with the window of the youngsters?

Some valid points, but I am curious why you are using the Kings' model? Isn't that sort of like asking Germany for tips on winning World Wars?

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#37 John Chambers
April 10 2012, 10:09PM
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LT wrote an article this past week about how cap space is now the team's new best friend. RNH has two years, and Yakupov will have 3 on their ELC's.

I say we load up a short-term offer to Suter - 2 years $16M. There's now enough studly young talent that it won't be a farce when the Oilers call on July 1st.

I'll even high-five DSF when we make the playoffs next year, and every year for the next 12. You won't be able to contain my jubilation!

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#38 Yourmomthinksimhot
April 11 2012, 12:11AM
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Doesn't anyone else see Yakupov as a good insurance policy for Hall? Hall can be reckless all he wants this way and we could still have Yakupov.

In fact he's a great insurance policy incase any of the big three go down due to injury. As far as im concerned there are no good arguements not to take this kid.

If Tambellini is half decent at his job (Insert joke here) then he should be responsible to aquire defenseman. The solution to our problems can't and shouldn't always have to be solved through the draft.

Seriously draft Yakupov and have Tambellini do his job, Burke and others have proven that aquiring quality defenseman isnt impossible. It's his job, let's hope and pray that he can get something done this offseason.

P.S. Yakupov = SQUEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

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#39 @Oilanderp
April 11 2012, 12:25AM
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Today was a good day.

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#40 Bryzarro World
April 11 2012, 09:08AM
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Woogie wrote:

Hemsky is not going anywhere. He has a NTC!!!

Ummm.. No he doesn't genius

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#41 nofool6110
April 11 2012, 10:24AM
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Grab the Yak.

Wait for Gene's inevitable Hemmer and Nail pun for all of the year.

Slowly cry.

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#42 Bi-Curious Gord
April 11 2012, 11:27AM
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We need Niall because the one thing that this team lacks is some Communist Flair. Well, the team lacks about a half dozen other things but---- you can't trade for Russian Ruthlessness- the disregard for human life and a general hatred of all things that prevent victory.

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#43 Bucknuck
April 11 2012, 12:56PM
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Boy, I was sure in a great mood about the Oilers picking first. I woke this morning feeling invigorated, and so I came on here wanting to read all the excited banter. I wanted to feel good about being an oiler fan (which is rare these days).

So I read through all of these comments and now I regret it. There are three things that got rid of my smile this morning.

1. Can someone please punt the trolls. Everyone knows who they are. Get rid.

2. People talk about the Oilers being classless and the management being the most classless. I know that signing someone (Hemsky) to a two year contract extension and then trading that player before it even comes into effect is CLASSLESS. It's not even an option. It won't happen. Even Tambellini isn't that ignorant.

3. There is a lot of speculation that Yakupov is the most talented player to be available at the draft since Crosby. If they make a trade, it probably shouldn't be for this kid. If he's as good as they say, then the Oil lose the trade no matter who the trade bait is.

4. It occurred to me that most people in the know really think Tambellini is sticking around, and he doesn't inspire confidence. IF they re-up his contract then I will throw a fit, but after that the only way he can redeem himself in my eyes is to get a different goalie to back up Dubnyk.

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#44 @NateInVegas
April 10 2012, 06:58PM
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Time for Taylor Hall to play Center.

L1= X-RNH-Eberle L2 MPS-Hall-Yakupov

I'd consider trading #1 for #3 + PK Subban

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#45 Harlie
April 10 2012, 07:20PM
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BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!!!!!!!!!

Hey Columbus, http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/029/367/shipment-of-fail.jpg?1318992465

Tambo is a rabbit foot for draft picks, he'll get 2 years for that.

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#46 They're $hittie
April 10 2012, 07:23PM
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how are hemsky, gagner and even paajarvi redundant parts? Maybe expendable but not redundant. Secondary scoring is a requirement people.

We need to use picks, omark and maybe hemsky to get the dman.

If magnus can turn the corner we have HALL, MPS, - RNH, GAGS, - EBS, YAK. Why not go with that top six.

Start developing the Hamiltons, Pitlicks, Hrtikainen, and Landers for our third Line

Any little addition or possible addition results in people saying to trade Gagner. Maybe we do, maybe we dont.

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#48 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
April 10 2012, 07:37PM
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Unless a trade for maybe 3 or 4 defenders, or 4 or 5 top centers, the team better keep it simple and just grab nail.

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#49 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 10 2012, 07:43PM
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un-fricken-believable!!!

1st emotion: squeeeeeeeeee

2nd emotion: ahhh... crap... tambi... how's he going to eff this up...

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#50 Spydyr
April 10 2012, 07:48PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

Sorry for being excited, some of us are actually fans.

Yes, I YELLED so loud when the Oil won the pick the better half jumped.

Then calmed down and started posting like my mom was looking over my shoulder.She hates yelling.

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