RYAN SMYTH: TIME AND MONEY

Robin Brownlee
May 02 2012 11:25AM

Time and money. Wouldn't all of us like to have more of both? I certainly would, and I'm guessing Ryan Smyth feels the same way. That's why it's far from a slam-dunk Smyth ends up re-signing with the Edmonton Oilers.

In case anybody has forgotten, time and money put an end to Smyth's first go-round with the Oilers. When GM Kevin Lowe didn't offer Smyth and agent Don Meehan enough dough during the 2006-07 season, the sides ran out of time, resulting in Smyth being dealt away to the New York Islanders and a teary farewell at EIA when 11th-hour negotiations fell through.

Five years later, we can debate how, if and where Smyth fits with the Oilers moving forward – Jonathan Willis offered yet another take today – and use all kinds of statistics and scenarios to justify our positions, but my sense is time and money, as it often is in the hockey business, will be the bottom line.

Smyth and Meehan turned down a contract offer from the Oilers before the trade deadline – a deal believed to be two years at $2 million a season – and now time comes into play. We're already into May and GM Steve Tambellini has a lot on his plate that bumps Smyth down the priority list.

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I can understand why Smyth wouldn't jump at a two-year deal in the $2 million range. Fair enough, but, that means he's going to have to wait for another offer, assuming there is one.

Tambellini has a full plate these days. His own contract extension hasn't been made official, yet. He's got a coaching decision to make. Is Tom Renney coming back? If not, then who comes in? That's not exactly a bit of business you take care of in a day or two, as we've seen.

Tambellini's scouting staff is in Palm Springs preparing for the 2012 Entry Draft and kicking around what to do with the team's third consecutive first overall pick. He's going to have a hand in that. Then, he's off to the World Championships. After that, there's preparation for the NHL combine. When that's done, it's off to the draft and later, free agency.

If Smyth feels like he's been put on the back burner after turning down Tambellini's first offer, there's good reason for it. He is on the back burner. Time and timing plays into contract talks with a lot of players, especially third-liners, which Smyth is now.

We're not necessarily re-visiting 2007 and rushed series of phone calls between Meehan and Lowe at the deadline because there is still plenty of time to sit down again, unlike the final hours of his first tour here, but Smyth is going to have to bide his time.

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Smyth, 36, made $4.5 million in real money and had a cap hit of $6.25 million in 2011-2012 in the final year of his last contract, so he's going to have to take a significant hit in the wallet in any new deal. The question is how much of a hit he's willing to take.

If Smyth and Meehan expect an offer from the Oilers in the range of $3 million a year, they might as well start considering their options elsewhere July 1 because that isn't going to happen in Edmonton. And it shouldn't.

The Smyth fans saw in the first 20 games or so this season made for a feel-good story in his return to the Oilers. He sure looked like he was earning every cent of his salary. The last 60 games? Not so much. If you split the difference, that's my best guess as to what we get moving forward.

If the Oilers decide Smyth is a fit – and there are reasonable arguments to be made on both sides of that debate -- they've got to decide what his role will be and what they'll pay. Smyth, no doubt, has his own numbers, term and dollars, in mind. That, with one offer turned down, will have to wait.

Time and money.

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#1 Tha Legion
May 02 2012, 11:27AM
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Like the rest of Edmonton I love Smytty, however I don't wanna be handcuffed on a long term deal or for too much skrilla.

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#2 dawgtoy
May 02 2012, 11:28AM
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Another article on Smytty...I love it!

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#3 Quicksilver ballet
May 02 2012, 11:48AM
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This issue shall pass without a whimper, compared to 2007. If 5 over 2 yrs isn't enough, it could be kleenex time again. Maybe he came back one yr too soon.

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#4 dawgbone98
May 02 2012, 11:51AM
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Oilers are willing to potentially sewer next year by spending $3.75 mil on a horrible goaltender but aren't willing to spend $3mil on a guy who provides excellent depth as a top 9 forward.

A guy who also just happened to finish 2nd on the team in TOI last year, despite the lowest PP TOI he's had in years.

In other words, if you don't bring him back you need to find someone to replace him. That should be easy for this management group, they've excelled at replacing players and fixing holes.

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#5 J-Bird
May 02 2012, 11:54AM
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Time to move on. Smyth is no top 6 player anymore, and doesn't provide what a 3rd & 4th liner should IMO. He's not a banger, fighter, checker, PK guy, etc., which a 3rd liner should be. This one year with the x-girlfriend is over, let's move on. He cost the team Paajarvi's minutes last year, cost him a year of development. Get over the X here Oil fans. It's time.

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#6 andrewmk20
May 02 2012, 12:03PM
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@dawgbone98

There's a huge difference. If Khabi's contract was up this year you'd be guaranteed that the Oilers would let him go off into UFA territory without so much as a whimper. But he's got one year left on a untradeable contract because of how the goalie market is. Smyth is coming off a very uneven year where he scored about 27pts in about 23 games and then about 19pts in the last 59 games. His defensive play was about average. The only thing that was somewhat consistent was his effort on the PK and I thought Jones, Belanger, and Horcoff were better on the PK in terms of stick checking, shot blocking, and applying pressure to the puck carrier. Smyth should not be resigned for that kind of money because it could be used elsewhere. Like using it to push for a top 4 dman come July 1st.

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#7 Wolfman
May 02 2012, 12:12PM
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Well my first post. I don't want to rag on Tambellini I think he gets an unfair rap considering how handcuffed he was when took the job...but...what sense does this make?

If they weren't going to re-sign him why didn't they trade him at the deadline? I bet Detroit might've given up something half decent for him.

All that keeping him down the stretch did was force Hartikainen and Pajaarvi into the minors or down a couple spots. If he walks for nothing that won't make much sense at all.

And Smytty wake up man, you asked to come back and you made a boatload of cash already. 2 years at 2 mil/per and a future job in the organization is a pretty sweet deal for an aging bandaid.

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#9 JessikaLovejoy
May 02 2012, 12:19PM
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Wolfman wrote:

Well my first post. I don't want to rag on Tambellini I think he gets an unfair rap considering how handcuffed he was when took the job...but...what sense does this make?

If they weren't going to re-sign him why didn't they trade him at the deadline? I bet Detroit might've given up something half decent for him.

All that keeping him down the stretch did was force Hartikainen and Pajaarvi into the minors or down a couple spots. If he walks for nothing that won't make much sense at all.

And Smytty wake up man, you asked to come back and you made a boatload of cash already. 2 years at 2 mil/per and a future job in the organization is a pretty sweet deal for an aging bandaid.

I'm pretty sure Smyth had a no movement clause. He would not have accepted a trade.

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#10 Walter Sobchak
May 02 2012, 12:20PM
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J-Bird wrote:

Time to move on. Smyth is no top 6 player anymore, and doesn't provide what a 3rd & 4th liner should IMO. He's not a banger, fighter, checker, PK guy, etc., which a 3rd liner should be. This one year with the x-girlfriend is over, let's move on. He cost the team Paajarvi's minutes last year, cost him a year of development. Get over the X here Oil fans. It's time.

Smyth is a banger and crasher, he is on the PK, he is on the PP, he can check and be gritty like a 3rd liner and he can move anywhere in your top 6! Now in what world is that not useful?

As for Paajarvi, he was developing in the AHL playing more minutes and in every key situation, but I guess you also miss how he was doing in the NHL much like you did with your assessment of Smyth.

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#11 nofool6110
May 02 2012, 12:22PM
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20 goal depth players that want to stay with the organization don't grow on trees.

Offer him Bertuzzi money, perhaps a bit more. 5, 5.5 over 2 is great.

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#12 Truth
May 02 2012, 12:56PM
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Just sign him, the guy is a beauty.

What message does it send to all the young guns in Edmonton that the Oilers brass don't properly treat the biggest fan favourite in town? If I'm T. Hall or Eberle I'm paying attention; hometown discount, long term deal?? Just so you can screw with me later?? No, thankyou.

This relates to your (Mr. Brownlee) article on Khabibulin last week. It was argued that Khabi should be kept around because he is a good soldier. I disagree, Khabi has been here for only 3 years and should be classified as a 3rd string goalie now (useless on an NHL team). Good riddance. Smyth should have been here since he was drafted and should be classified as a 3rd string winger. Sign him.

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#13 50 in 39
May 02 2012, 12:58PM
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If he isn't overworked by excessive minutes and tough match-ups he will be a much better, more consistent player.

He is an excellent third liner, who can move up if needed. He has the type of character, work ethic and professionalism (with skill) that a winning team would kill for on their third line.

Pay him like a top end third liner and then actually play him third line minutes.

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#14 Team EHH
May 02 2012, 01:03PM
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He still is a useful player, a fan favourite, and I would like him to stay but only on a year-to-year basis.

PRV and Harti need opportunities soon to play regularly on the second and third lines. A two year or longer contract for Smyth hinders this.

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#15 Sean17
May 02 2012, 01:07PM
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Offer Bertuzzi money. 4.5 over 2 years. Done.

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#16 etownman
May 02 2012, 01:13PM
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Ryan got his wish to come back to the Oilers to finish his contract! It did cost MPS development time & he is one player i'm very excited to see play with quality ice time & linemates! My opinion is that it's time to move on without Smytty. Hallsy, Ebs, MPS are all 3rd year pros now & there's still Horc & Hemmer! Let's move forward with some quality trades for size, grittiness & speed!

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I heard he wanted 3 years? Why? Does he really think there is any team out there that would be willing to give him anything more than one after his stunt last year in LA?

Smyth is all about Edmonton until it comes contract time. I'd love to have him back, but I'm sick and tired of people pegging him a victim.

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#19 Harlie
May 02 2012, 01:15PM
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is he still the fan favourite that everyone is talking about? To me he's in behind the big 3. I don't think that argument holds as much cred as it used to.

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#20 admiralmark
May 02 2012, 01:18PM
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Would a 1 year deal at 3 million handcuff the team salary cap wise? If not i think it makes sense. Isn't that what Belanger's making? I wonder if he's willing to play 3rd line however?

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Not sure if you'll comment on this Brownlee, but what is Smyth like in the locker room? Stauffer seems to take the odd stab at maybe Smyth isn't the guy that fans think in the locker room. Is there any truth to this?

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#23 Dipstick
May 02 2012, 01:35PM
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At his age he must realize that the end of his career is in sight. It makes no sense for the team to extend a deal over two years. I think that they should give him a generous one year deal with good bonuses (since that option exists). At the end of the year if he is still the 3rd LW on the depth chart and they have contract room, re-sign him for another year.

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#25 Vaclav
May 02 2012, 01:47PM
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@ Wes Mantooth

In what league is Smyth a banger and a crasher? He was 13th on the Oilers with 53 hits last season. He's the recipient of alot of banging and crashing. I'll give you that much. But Smyth does not initiate physical play.

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#26 Digger
May 02 2012, 01:47PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Not sure if you'll comment on this Brownlee, but what is Smyth like in the locker room? Stauffer seems to take the odd stab at maybe Smyth isn't the guy that fans think in the locker room. Is there any truth to this?

IMO Smyth is a good guy, but he's not a saint either. He's human just like everyone else.

I do think that for a lot of fans (especially the ones under the age of 30 who were likely too young to know a time when the Oilers had real superstars), Smyth is the THE Oiler. So, there's an emotional attachment that's hard to let go of.

I'd like to see him retire here, but I'm not going to get too upset if he moves on. At the end of the day he needs to do what's best for his family, and if that means an extra half million dollars per year and one more year on a contract from another team than what the Oilers are willing to offer, then so be it.

Just dispense with the "He bleeds copper and blue!" nonsense please, if it were true then he wouldn't be a constant pain in the ass to sign every single time his contract's up for renewal.

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#27 book¡e
May 02 2012, 01:47PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

All I'll say is this: Bob is connected and he spends more time with the team than I do now.

Wow, so you are saying that Smyth is like a cancer eating the soul of the Oilers.

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#28 Oilcan
May 02 2012, 01:52PM
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Truth wrote:

Just sign him, the guy is a beauty.

What message does it send to all the young guns in Edmonton that the Oilers brass don't properly treat the biggest fan favourite in town? If I'm T. Hall or Eberle I'm paying attention; hometown discount, long term deal?? Just so you can screw with me later?? No, thankyou.

This relates to your (Mr. Brownlee) article on Khabibulin last week. It was argued that Khabi should be kept around because he is a good soldier. I disagree, Khabi has been here for only 3 years and should be classified as a 3rd string goalie now (useless on an NHL team). Good riddance. Smyth should have been here since he was drafted and should be classified as a 3rd string winger. Sign him.

This doesn't relate to the kids at all and people need to stop trying to make that connection. If your Hall or Eberle you are NOT paying attention because they are concerned with WINNING, they know its a business and maybe they are watching and saying to themselves why is Smyth wanting more money when we might be near cap team in a year or two.

Smyth has played with the kids for ONE year so that argument is irrelevant.

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#29 TwoSkidoos
May 02 2012, 01:52PM
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I said the same thing in JW's article - it's not what you've done for me in the past, it's what you've done for me lately.

If he was paid based upon his history, he'd be a rich(er) man. Unfortunately for him, his performance in the last 3/4 of the season is likely indicative of his go forward contributions.

I say that he's worth no more to this team, and likely less, than a player like MPS is - although I think it was better for MPS to go to the AHL to learn his craft a little better because of Smyth in the lineup, he's a year older and likely deserves more optimal ice time than Ryan Smyth.

If Ryan Smyth doesn't return to the Oilers, I don't think I'm going to lose any sleep over it.

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#30 Mitch
May 02 2012, 02:05PM
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Robin if I'm EDM I offer 1.8m on a 1 yr deal and a bonus of 1m if team makes playoffs. I'm honestly tired of a lack of veteran gamesmanship not being in this lineup. The veterans have been horrible, for whatever reason they get a free pass/huge contract and "he will be better next yr". I like what Taylor Hall said at the end of the yr.

Ryan Smyth is a 3rd to 4th liner at best who should be used on the pp. Ryan could also be a big part of a playoff run, in the regular season it's 82 games and it can really wear players down.

Money needs to be spent on making this team much much tougher, if you want to waste some money.

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#31 Oldlurk
May 02 2012, 02:05PM
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Hopefully Ryan will accept the third line position. Someone there to show grit and effort, and when someone in the top 6 is hurt he can step into the role for a short time and the team doesn't suffer from injuries as badly.

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#32 VK63
May 02 2012, 02:10PM
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How much will Calgary pay him? Further to that is he worth more to the Flames than he is to the Oilers?

Given that he basically forced a trade on the Kings to come home I can't imagine he endured the hassle for a single year. If the return home was the sole motivation,, the market for Smyth is exactly two teams, provided he stands by the reasoning he gave to the Kings.

Or am I missing something.

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#33 Quicksilver ballet
May 02 2012, 02:11PM
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Now we can see why there are so many contributors to this Oiler management group. If one guy is going to spend 4 months on this Smyth extension then it's no wonder they need so many guys. Make a decision already. Procrastinating like this on Smytty and Renney can bite them in the arse if they leave it too long.

Keeping your options open till the last possible moment is often mistaken for not knowing what you're doing.

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#34 Vaclav
May 02 2012, 02:41PM
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@QSB

What's the rush to sign Smyth? I'd rather see how things play out at the draft which could affect the team's composition than rush into a new contract with him.

There are other options out there that can fill the role Smyth does and given the 29th place finish improving the lineup wouldn't be a bad thing.

And seems to me by offering Smyth what some would consider a fair contract offer I don't really see how that would be considered procrastinating on Tambellini's part.

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#35 Truth
May 02 2012, 02:48PM
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@Oilcan:

If you, as a player, have two options, Team A and Team B, wherein all things are considered equal. Team A is known for treating their players with respect and acknowledgment of what they have done for the team in the past (ie. Detroit, Anaheim) or Team B: known for lowballing or publicly denouncing players that are respected and loved by the fan base (ie. Columbus of late, possibly Edmonton). Where do you sign?

This is about Edmonton becoming a world class organization. Winning is a huge part of it, as is a world class arena and a giant fan base. Being known for disrespecting the generation's fan favourite player would not help. Plus, he can play. Given Smyth's apparent trade value last season, if he doesn't get the money he's asking for in Edmonton he will surely get it somewhere else.

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#36 Shredder
May 02 2012, 02:48PM
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On a recent episode of Oil Change I saw a real bad attitude with Smyth after one of the lackluster losses that got Renney all fired up and calling out the team. He's certainly not the guy getting the rest of the team all fired up - meaning he's not the leader of this team anymore. He's certainly a fan favorite based on history, but fans want wins more than they want a historic icon on the team. Most guys his age, who have never won a cup, only win it by going to a new team - the guys like Smyth and Iggy just don't usually win it with their original team.

As far as contract goes...in 2007 they were apparently $100,000 apart - Lowe got ripped for trading him, but there are 2 sides of any deal gone south. Smytty could have given in on that, and he can give in on contract dollars now too - especially if he has 1 other team in the league that will let him play in proximity to where the rest of his family is. As was stated above - I hate that he gets pegged a victim. I'm sure his agent is pushing him to get as much as possible (I wonder why???)...but so what - Smytty has to make a choice here.

Should we keep #1 overall and take Yakupov there will be little TOI for Paajarvi to develop without Smyth in the lineup. With Smyth in the lineup it guarantees that Paajarvi is in OKC. When I bought my season tix in 2010 I bought into the youth movement - not nostalgia. I was thrilled to see Smytty come back, but based on Tambi's comments at the year end presser, it's Smytty that's being a dink:

Tambi said they made him an offer and the deal died at that point). I happen to be a negotiator for a living, and any deal I'm working on goes south if there isn't some sort of counter offer, otherwise one side is negotiating against itself (and after having been part of that, I consider the other side to be a total douches when they do that). Now given Smytty's desire to play in Alberta, if there is one side to negotiate against itself, it would have to be his, not the Oilers who really don't need him as much as he thinks they do. Smyth either needs to respond to the offer by accepting it or countering it, but if he just flat out rejected it, then he is gone-zo.

And it won't break my heart if he is, even though I do love the guy. But it pales in comparison to my man-crush on Taylor Hall, and my desire to see him and the other young guns in the playoffs next year.

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#37 J-Bird
May 02 2012, 02:58PM
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Smyth ain't a banger, ain't a PK guy, ain't a PP guy anymore, doesn't fight, can't get there anymore. He chose to leave once already, get over the X-girlfriend folks. He ain't a productive 3rd liner, period. If you're gonna finish 29th overall like this team did this year, why they were giving the ice to a 36 year old Smyth is beyond me? At least accomplish something development wise if you're gonna put us fans through that kind of year again?

If Smyth comes back, what price does this team pay in player development and reward for those who could earn ice time?

I love Smyth, like everyone else. He's not going to provide anything this team needs in a supporting role better than any of the prospects could. And those prospects possibly have upside. We will never know with Smyth being there.

Just my 2 cents.

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#38 Quicksilver ballet
May 02 2012, 03:03PM
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@ Vaclav

Steve already let the rooster back into the hen house. It's a little late to try and play boss and possibly embarass the organization again. The time to say no to Ryan Smyth was last summer. You can't say no to 94 now that you chose to bring him back and allow him to finish his career here. Tambellini throws nearly 10 million dollars out the window on Souray and Quinn, and now it's time to pinch pennies on Ryan Smyth? 5-6 over 2 yrs is much closer to what he wants, for optics sake they need to put this issue to bed. They're thin on the left side anyways.

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#39 Tony_Clifton
May 02 2012, 03:27PM
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etownman wrote:

Ryan got his wish to come back to the Oilers to finish his contract! It did cost MPS development time & he is one player i'm very excited to see play with quality ice time & linemates! My opinion is that it's time to move on without Smytty. Hallsy, Ebs, MPS are all 3rd year pros now & there's still Horc & Hemmer! Let's move forward with some quality trades for size, grittiness & speed!

this says it all

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#40 Wolfman
May 02 2012, 03:30PM
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@JessikaLovejoy

Yeah you're right on that, but you'd think if he was offered a deal before the trade deadline as this article suggests then he'd have an idea of what type of deal he would be looking at moving forward...and if he didn't like it then, why would he think they would offer more later? Doesn't make sense from his point of view either.

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#41 laughing pug
May 02 2012, 03:32PM
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Renney is unsigned. Smyth is unsigned. . . . . . . I can't believe I didn't see it sooner..... . . . . . . RYAN SMYTH IS DESTINED TO BE THE NEW HEAD COACH OF THE OILERS!!!!

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#42 DieHard
May 02 2012, 03:34PM
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Ryan would still be in the playoffs with a decent shot at a cup. He should have waited for his UFA status and tried to come back next year instead. BUT, would the Oilers be interested?

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I like Smitty but he's a third line player at $2 million per year IMO.

I get the love affair and feel good stories that is connected with him but feel good stories don't help you win hockey games especially in the playoffs. If he's willing to be a third liner making third liner money then please sIgn this guy already.

On another note, maybe Lowe had his value pegged to begin with. He's been traded by the Avs and Kings seemingly because he wasn't worth the $$ he was making.

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#44 Oiler Al
May 02 2012, 03:52PM
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If he's not a huge point contributor, not a banger, seems like not that big locker room leader, why bother signing him at all. I guess the real question why did you bring him here from L.A. knowing his best years are past him. Hell, they dont use him on the PP to bang goals in.[ that seems to be Horcoffs job]. I think the big screw up here is your paying Hemsky $5.000mil for doing the same job. We all know the Horcoff situation.Not saying they should sign him for anything beyond the Bertzzi numbers [$2 mil ], Heck Holstrom gets $1.9 Ray Whitney $3 mil, Koivu $2.5 mil, Steve Sulivan $1.5 mil. If the offer was $2 mil is fair.. but whats not fair when you have Hemsky and HOcoff making north of $ 5. million. Your also paying Habby $3.8 and Whitney $4mil.. hard to argue if you are Meahan.Heck your paying Souray $1.5 to not show up. No wonder Stevie boy is dithering again.

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#45 Pucker
May 02 2012, 04:21PM
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I am confident the Oiler's will offer a contract of value of his worth to the team. He's probably worth more to another team so it's really up to him whether he wants to be an Oiler or uproot his family again. I like what Ryan brings to the team but he's got to be prepared to accept a role. The Oiler's are in a win/win with whatever his decision is.

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#46 madjam
May 02 2012, 04:27PM
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SMYTH WOULD DO WELL TO STAY HERE FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS IF THE PRICE TAG IS RIGHT . I don't see us not wanting to resign him . If his asking price is too much , like it was once before, then he''ll play elsewhere - and that might even be with the Flames . He is still a valuable asset and not easily replaced .

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#47 michael
May 02 2012, 04:36PM
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Robin. If the new CBA sees a rollback of 20%. Smyth signing at 2.5 would then translate into a 2 million dollar contract.Stupid math.

Here is why the Oilers wait and see. And here is why the other 29 GM's are not going to pay 3 million for Ryan this summer. The CBA. If the new agreement is such that the cap is set at 55 million then that puts alot of pressure on GM's to ensure that they fill thier 3rd and 4 th lines with players in the 1.5 to 900,000 range. Thats what I see as the starting point for Smyth. If you sign him in the 1.5-1.8 range that would make sense. Even with amnesty clauses and such the reality is that teams will be scrambling to trim payroll to meet the cap.

If Smyth can find someone to pay him 3 million dollars this summer all the power to him.

Time and money are on the Oilers side.

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#48 Glenn
May 02 2012, 04:41PM
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Love Smitty had the chance to meet him and visit, hes great with fans and my kids thought he was the best we cheer for him everytime he plays where ever that is. But i've also heard he's a good leader but misses some of the spot light that the kids get. He leads well on the ice but if what we hear is true he must get over it to be a true leader on this team. It's time for Smitty to realize he will always be loved in the city, but also should be pushing the kids into the spotlight more not holding ill feelings because of it. Smitty sign the deal you want to play here plus you've made around 50 mil over your career suck it up take the 2-2.5 and the 3rd line minutes, back the kids be a great pro.

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#49 smiliegirl15
May 02 2012, 04:53PM
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Smitty is all right but 2 years at $2M seems pretty fair to me.

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#50 oldhippy
May 02 2012, 04:54PM
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Listen, people. Smyth is definitely not the victim here. Tambellini didn't go to the Kings asking for Smyth. Smyth asked to come back to the Oilers. It cost $4.5m and a $6.25m cap hit to "bring him home". Never mind the bad blood with L.A. (although they got badly needed cap relief) Did Smyth earn $4.5m last year? Barely! That said, we don't have cap trouble going in to this season, so paying him $3m on a one year, with a hand shake agreement to $1.5m next year, would not be unreasonable. If Feaster wants to sign him for a longer, bigger deal then, See Yah Ryan. Having him around, maybe leaving him home with his family on the odd road trip, keeping him fresh. The way he started was great, but it sure didn't last. Maybe, like Mario's last season, he could play, say 65 games. See what MPS, Lander and Hartikanen look like.

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