AT RANDOM: DECISIONS

Robin Brownlee
May 22 2012 10:38AM

One of my favorite songs is Then Came The Last Days of May by Blue Oyster Cult, not that I'd expect anybody under 40 to know that tune or the band, for that matter.

As for the actual last days of May on the hockey beat, they always serve as a reminder that covering the games is the easy part of the job, especially if your gig is covering a team like the Edmonton Oilers, out of the playoffs for the sixth straight season. It's down time and nobody is answering the phone.

With the Oilers on the slab in terms of post-season since January, the carcass poked and prodded, the disappointment of another fail duly documented and the toe tag affixed to the stiff – fire Kevin Lowe/Steve Tambellini/the coaching staff and everybody else who had hand in the mess – we work the phones, we snoop around, we speculate about stuff and, mostly, we wait.

With the next real bits of actual news being the NHL combine in Toronto this coming weekend and then the Entry Draft in Pittsburgh, thank goodness the Oilers have a head coach to replace and the first overall pick to make for the third June in a row.

The last days of May, for those with gigs that don't involve documenting the conference finals and the Stanley Cup unless the teams we cover are in it, tend to drag on. The real meaty stuff – should Tambellini hire Brent Sutter or fill-in-name-of-anybody-who-didn't-coach -the-Godless-Flames-here and getting a handle on who Stu MacGregor and his staff have decided to use the first pick on (they aren't saying) – is just around the corner.

Not a day too soon.

ABOUT THE BENCH

I still think Sutter is the name we'll hear when Tambellini summons us to announce a replacement for Tom Renney, but knowing it and thinking it are two distinctly different matters. Nobody is talking, and in rare cases when they do, they aren't telling us anything. Gut feel. Circumstance.

While there's plenty of room for debate about who the next coach should be, and we're reading and hearing plenty of it, what I don't get are the references by readers here about not wanting Sutter because of the stint he put in down the road in Cowtown. Record? Sure. Ability to develop young players? Yes. The right fit for this stage of the rebuild? Obviously. But having Calgary on your coaching resume as a negative? Please.

I chatted with Craig MacTavish the other day and came away from that conversation with the sense he won't be on Tambellini's short list and has no great desire to be. While I think the circumstances are markedly better than the situation he left no so long ago, an encore isn't in the cards. I'll get together with MacT in Kelowna for a coffee before the draft, but I expect Renney's replacement will be in place by then and it won't be him.

There are some outstanding young coaches out there – Jon Cooper of Norfolk and OKC bench boss Todd Nelson, to name two – but I can't see Tambellini putting his job on the line (and, make no mistake, it is) on a coach without NHL experience running the bench. Tambellini won't roll the dice on anybody without a track record. Should they get a look? Yes. Will they get the job? No.

ABOUT THAT PICK

Until MacGregor coughs up the Oilers draft list, something I've yet to coax out of him despite all the history we have dating back 20 years or so, we're left to guess about who he and his staff slotted No. 1 heading into Pittsburgh.

I'm not completely convinced that it could be any one of three or four players as MacGregor was selling last time we talked, but there probably is more room for debate than there was in 2010, when Taylor Hall separated himself from Tyler Seguin with a second straight Memorial Cup win as MVP, and in 2011, when Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was the class of field.

What struck me in my last conversation with MacGregor was his reference to Tambellini making it clear that organizational need is a factor that has to be considered, as opposed to taking the garden variety BPA. This is the first time I remember MacGregor making that reference regarding Tambellini or Lowe.

Might "organizational need" bump Sarnia centre Alex Galchenyuk or defensemen Ryan Murray or Griffin Reinhart ahead of winger Nail Yakupov or am I just reading between the lines and seeing something that isn't there? I don't know, although I read Jason Gregor's latest piece here with interest -- as it pertains to the unquestionably talented Galchenyuk.

THIS AND THAT

The Oilers used to send a horde of scouts to the NHL's combine, but they've cut down on the size of the contingent in recent years. Expect MacGregor, Brad Davis, director of research analysis Sean Draper, Tambellini and Lowe to attend this edition.

The Oilers have interviews planned with 83 prospects in Toronto, including Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Murray and Reinhart, the Oil Kings defenseman who has the benefit of showcasing himself in the Memorial Cup while the others sit and watch.

Listen to Robin Brownlee Wednesdays and Thursdays from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

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First I'll Say Tambellini in my opinion is not the man to be able to pull off the ballsy moves a team needs to make to contend for the cup some day i think he'll be fired before the oilers ever win another cup, secondly i love acronyms

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#2 mike
May 22 2012, 10:51AM
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Good read.

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#3 vetinari
May 22 2012, 10:57AM
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My guess on the draft is that the Oilers will take Yakupov #1, and then look to their 2nd through 4th rounders to fill organizational needs (big 2/3 centre, offense minded defencemen, etc.). I am obviously not in the Oiler's decision-making circle, but if I was, I would be working hard to move some surplus second tier youth for another top 10 pick and look to choose a defenceman with that pick.

As for the new coach, having coached the Flames shouldn't be held against a candidate; what you did with the players you were provided with when you were in Calgary should be.

I understand that the World's was an obvious audition for Sutter but we need to look past what's standing in front of us and consider other quality candidates. I know that Tambi won't bank his future on a coach without NHL experience but there must be other guys out there (including the European leagues) who would be quality coaches in the right circumstances.

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#4 Matt Henderson
May 22 2012, 10:58AM
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The organization is only in a state of need on the back end because the GM is a goof. Trying to get the amateur scouting department to make up for the incompetencies of the GM at the Pro level is pathetic. The Oilers were given a gift, the opportunity to draft a goal scoring dynamo. Now they have to consider taking a defenseman with very little offense instead, all to make up for the fact that Tambi wasted assets and/or money on Ankles Whitney and Cam Barker.

Wonderful.

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#5 Dog Train
May 22 2012, 11:08AM
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Pat Quinn and Tom Renney had previous NHL head coaching experience before we hired them and that didn't go so well. There are good coaches out there just waiting for their big break. I would like to see us think outside the box and I would add Dallas Eakins of the Marlies to that list. That said, my guess is that Tambellini does go with a proven name like a Brent Sutter or a Marc Crawford (ugh).

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#6 TigerUnderGlass
May 22 2012, 11:14AM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

The organization is only in a state of need on the back end because the GM is a goof. Trying to get the amateur scouting department to make up for the incompetencies of the GM at the Pro level is pathetic. The Oilers were given a gift, the opportunity to draft a goal scoring dynamo. Now they have to consider taking a defenseman with very little offense instead, all to make up for the fact that Tambi wasted assets and/or money on Ankles Whitney and Cam Barker.

Wonderful.

I'd like to add 'constant assessment' to the things they need to make up for.

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#7 Bucknuck
May 22 2012, 11:33AM
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Robin, maybe one of the reasons you "don't get it" with respect to the Calgary thing is because you claim to be objective. We fans are very guilty of being homers (and far from objective). We look down the highway at Calgary and we try as best we can to pick them apart because they are rivals and we have to put up with ribbing from Flames fans.

We learn to mock Feaster and Sutter and some others in their roster, and over time we might even start to believe some of our stupid Schtick. When these very same folks are kicked out of Calgary and we take them on, we see a "taking Calgary's garbage" litany in the future from our rivals. It's irritating, and especially when we have trained ourselves not to like them.

So if there is someone else out there as (or more) qualified than someone from Calgary then my preference would be to steer clear of the Cgy option. It's irrational, I know, but it is what it is.

I also don't really want a coach who can't even get team Canada to the medal rounds, thank you very much. But that's a rational argument, and I was just trying to address the irrational "Calgary's garbage" feeling.

That said if they get Sutter and the team starts winning I'm sure I'll get over it.

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#8 15w40
May 22 2012, 11:36AM
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Well if they draft a centre the will need to make some other moves - too many on the roster or on the cusp right now.

RNH Gagner Horcoff Belanger Lander Vandevelde

The last 1 will be in the AHL for sure I would think and you could leave Lander down there but there is still a logjam. I guess if you took a centre he could play wing to start and spot duty at centre. If they draft a centre I think it's a safe bet that Gagner will be used to secure another asset. Drafting a defenceman would be a mistake I think, unless its a Doughty or Subban type of player. I think the top 6 has a distinctly different look next year one way or the other. I don't see Smyth on the 2nd line unless Hartikainen bombs at training camp plus there is also MPS to get into the mix. Some of this also hinges on whether they are interested in or can sign Justin Schultz on defense.

On an aside, another interesting thing I heard is that Mikael Granlund has not been signed by the Wild yet and needs to be before June 1st or he goes back into the draft. Another smallish forward to add to the mix but not really any different than Yakupov. Its not likely that this happens but Bob McKenzie has stated that he is for sure a top 10 pick again and in some organizations opinion would supplant Yakupov as the #1 pick in this draft.

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#9 Wanye
May 22 2012, 11:36AM
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Downloaded that Blue Oyster Cult song and you weren't wrong RB.

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#10 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
May 22 2012, 11:37AM
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@#94 sized hole where my heart used to be...

Bravo!

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#11 michael
May 22 2012, 11:41AM
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Interesting seeing Klowe sitting with Ulf Samuelson last night at the Memorial CUP. Ulf had 2 other kids with him watching his son Henrick play. A couple of Dads watching thier sons play in the CHL's biggest showcase. Samuelson is my 32cd pick if he is there.

Robin you are not going to the draft in Pittsburgh. Who from the Nation will be there to represent?

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#12 freeze
May 22 2012, 11:59AM
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It would be a shame for Tambo to limit his options to a coach with experience rather than the best available candidate. But based on the rest of his tenure, it wouldn't surprise me if he went with the 'safe' option. A good GM should be able to find the best person for the position regardless of their NHL experience level. That goes for staff and players.

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#13 Jonathan Willis
May 22 2012, 12:02PM
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Of course last time around Tambellini didn't want to gamble either - instead betting it all on two men he knew very well - Renney and Quinn.

Also, I'm glad to see Jon Cooper get some love here.

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#14 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
May 22 2012, 12:04PM
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Matt Henderson wrote:

The organization is only in a state of need on the back end because the GM is a goof. Trying to get the amateur scouting department to make up for the incompetencies of the GM at the Pro level is pathetic. The Oilers were given a gift, the opportunity to draft a goal scoring dynamo. Now they have to consider taking a defenseman with very little offense instead, all to make up for the fact that Tambi wasted assets and/or money on Ankles Whitney and Cam Barker.

Wonderful.

This is a really good comment, Arch.

Drafting anyone other than Yakupov, regardless of organizational needs, is equivalent to professional suicide in most industries. Unfortunately, hockey is a funny business, and often isn't as just as is it should be to the people in it.

Please, someone must stop Steve and possibly Kevin before they do something really stupid..... this time.

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#15 Bucknuck
May 22 2012, 12:11PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Of course last time around Tambellini didn't want to gamble either - instead betting it all on two men he knew very well - Renney and Quinn.

Also, I'm glad to see Jon Cooper get some love here.

I don't know you can't give a coach with the longest winning streak in AHL history a hard look. The guy's resume reads pretty darn impressive.

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#16 TwoSkidoos
May 22 2012, 12:15PM
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Of course they have to look at organizational need, then they pick Yakupov.

I don't see the value in picking more defensemen with Gernat, Marincin, Fedun, etc, waiting in the wings.

It's been beaten to death all over the interweb - you don't draft "top 2" defensemen, you trade for them or you pick them up via free agency.

Especially in an era where hockey is more dump and chase where it requires physical defensemen or the few D that have high hockey IQ like the Lidstroms & Suters.

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#19 50 in 39
May 22 2012, 12:23PM
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Unfortunately the problem with organizational need is that it happens to be organizational needs. As much as quality players are needed on defense and other key areas, additional top end scoring is also needed to propel the Oilers into the upper echelon of the league.

With all of the needs in perspective, a player like Yakupov would be the hardest, most expensive asset to acquire outside of the draft. Unless you would like to contaminate your team with a discarded talent like Semin.

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#20 madjam
May 22 2012, 12:32PM
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Trouba is my number 1 pick of this years draftees , and i suspect he will be best down the line as well . Yakupov will/should be top forward . Tams may feel rushed to make a contender this year, and that could prove disasterous with him doing the trading, etc.. I prefer Sutter over Crawford if we are going to get a competitive club going for next season .

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#21 Zed
May 22 2012, 12:34PM
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"That said if they get Sutter and the team starts winning I'm sure I'll get over it."

@Bucknuck

If the Oil start winning with Sutter then you'll do more than get over it. You'll have even more ammo to boil the blood of any Flames fan.

If they start losing then just blame the GM.

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#22 Oil Is My Blood
May 22 2012, 12:37PM
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Tambo should make a gutsy move and hire Paul Maurice. He brought Staal and Skinner along nicely and would do the same with Hall, RNH, and Eberle.

Tambo will make a gutless move and hire Sutter. What's he done lately?

As for first overall, draft the Yak, and trade for #2D

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#23 T__Bone88
May 22 2012, 12:51PM
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The next coach for the Oilers needs to have a more defensive structure in the gameplay. Almost every fan wants the "run and gun" style because it worked back in 1980's & is exciting, but that is the easiest style of gameplay to beat. With that style of hockey it creates lots of mistakes and puts the defensemen out of position. Id rather have the oilers win 2-1 and have 45 wins instead of 5-4 games and only 25 wins. Sure the defensive style is boring but it wins you games and you don't need the elite defensemen to have it work.

As for drafting if the NHL had the entry level age set at 20-22 instead of 18 then for sure you can go off need instead of bpa. The NFL & NBA mostly pick off need because the players drafted have their skills more developed when they enter the draft and make an impact right away. The NHL is like the MLB and that they pick the bpa because most don't make it into the league until they are 23-25. Some of the higher draftee's falter by the time they are considered ready for the big time.

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#24 The Fish
May 22 2012, 01:02PM
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My 2 cents:

Coach: Brent Sutter 1st Pick: Yakupov Blue Oyster Cult song: Cities on Flame with Rock n Roll

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#25 Quicksilver ballet
May 22 2012, 01:04PM
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It wouldn't be too much of a reach to select Galchenyuk first overall. From 91-2005, 10 out of those 15 yrs, the best player in that draft class was not the first player selected. First overall doesn't gaurantee you get the best player.

More recent yrs tell a different story. 8 out of the last 10 yrs has gotten you the best player if we consider Hall the best in 2010. I'm so confused.

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#27 Bucknuck
May 22 2012, 01:16PM
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@Zed

I like the way you spin those alternatives. Nice

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#28 Walter Sobchak
May 22 2012, 01:19PM
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If Tambellini wants to hang onto his job past January he will add another top pick in the draft, the defense this summer.

Finnish the top 6 forwards, draft Yakupov and trade up for Galchenyuk!!

UFA-Schultz, Garrison or Carkner.

Trade bait:

Hemsky-Ganger-Paajarvi-Lander-Jones-Gernat-Tebuert-Marincin-Plante-Bunz and draft picks.

A combination of that list should bring in a top pick I would think.

As an Oilers fan I have to put my faith in Tambellini one more summer. If he fails to do this then he's done.

No coach will help this team as is.

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#29 50 in 39
May 22 2012, 01:37PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Setting aside predictions of what direction Tambellini might be leaning for the head coach, what would your short list look like for the Edmonton head coaching position?

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#30 treevojo
May 22 2012, 01:38PM
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Originally I wasn't at all for Sutter coaching the Oil...... But after seeing that picture how could you not want that guy as your coach! The guy looks like he could be a regular on star trek. The more I look the more I laugh. Thanx for that Robin. Made my day.

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#31 Gavin
May 22 2012, 01:38PM
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If we are talking about coaches with good NHL experience why is no one saying Michel Therrien or Jacques Martin, they have both coached elite talent Malkin and Crosby for Therrien; Spezza and Alfredsson for Martin. They have also coached teams to success in Pittsburg and Ottawa with their Stanley Cup appearances. As an Oiler fan, I'm not against Sutter, but we should not pick him because he lives a couple hundred Km's down the road. For your comments on the 1st pick, it is hard! Where is the Oilers managements head space at? What is their top priority? Continue to build or jump to a playoff position. If they trade the pick they are taking a jump, and I would not like to see them step back because they did not take the BPA and work from a point of strength. Just my opinion. Great read Robin.

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#33 Bushed
May 22 2012, 01:48PM
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@Brownlee

BOC was a great band--saw them in Rexall Place years ago (Coliseum back then) and still rates as one of the best concerts I've seen.

You do know they're playing at Hawrelak Park this summer (Rock Festival), right?

Hopefully the Oil management get it together soon, or else we'll have to start using "Veteran of the Psychic Wars" as a new fan anthem on the Nation...

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#34 Mitch
May 22 2012, 01:51PM
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Robin this is ST last hire unless they go deep in the playoffs,he must not have a contract for more than 2yrs if I was guessing. What bothers me most about EDM managment is they are clearly the worst bunch of communicators in pro sports maybe.

I'm glad to see some very qualified coaches get short listed, what I would like to see is someone who is stern demands a very high level of accountability at all times. A coach who a player will go through a wall for. A coach who has his players understand that it is a must to protect each other at all costs!!

What is most important for me is to have the players understand that the jersey is the most important thing you can put on in this city. It is a privilage and a honour, the coach that can drive this message home the best should get the job.

No matter how experienced this person is coaching is about motavating and understand the players as well as the culture of the city.Whom ever is hired better be ready to be a winner.

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#35 dawgbone98
May 22 2012, 02:06PM
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@Bucknuck

So you wouldn't want Hitchcock as the coach? The 2011 team didn't make the medal round either (they lost in the QF as well).

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#36 jake
May 22 2012, 02:15PM
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Tambo don't fear the reaper....nor does the wind, the sun or the rain.....

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#37 Rama Lama
May 22 2012, 02:26PM
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You have to learn not to inhale......see Bill Clinton's guide to smoking dope.

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#38 Quicksilver ballet
May 22 2012, 02:33PM
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Dinosaurs aren't extinct...

They're just hiding.

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#39 Smokey
May 22 2012, 02:53PM
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I wish the media would stop this Sutter BS. Maybe they should poll us Oiler fans and we would give a big hell no to these media hacks insistant on being lazy and just trying to perpetuating this bad rumor during a slow news cycle.

The coaches we should be looking at our like a Quennville, or Hartley, Trotz, Tippet if available. If not get a young coach like the casino boss Nelson outta OKC, or Eakins outta TO. No to Sutter, no to Crawford, no to Marice. Maybe to Martin or McClellan sp?

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#41 Reg Dunlop
May 22 2012, 03:24PM
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I was thinking that Bob Hartley would be a good fit here, with his beautiful wife Emily and wackey neighbor Howard. But then I heard he was rumored to be in the running for the flames job, so obviously he is somehow tainted.

Seriously, a defensive structure(trap?) would help the oil tremendously and with some offence talent(like Heatly in Atl) Hartley might save Tambo's job here.

Also, my fav BOC album is Cultosaurus Erectus

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#42 gcw_rocks
May 22 2012, 03:32PM
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@brownlee

So you do not prescribe to the Pierre lacroix theory? he went with a younger Marc Crawford because he wanted a younger, more progressive coach with whom the players could relate and grow.

The NHL landscape is changing and we are seeing lots of younger coaches having success, for the reasons lacroix identified, and most likely because younger coaches are more likely to embrace new methods like leveraging advanced stats and the like.

Tambo may go with the veteran coach because he hasn't had an origonal thought in his life, but all you have to do is look at Dan Bylsma, Guy Boucher, Kevin Dineen, Kurt Muller and others to see that younger, innovative coaches can have success, more so than re-treads in many cases. When you look at the resume of a Cooper, I do not know how you could call hiring someone with his track record a "flyer".

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#43 dawgbone98
May 22 2012, 03:35PM
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@Smokey

You should name a few more coaches under contract while you are at it.

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#44 Lochenzo
May 22 2012, 04:07PM
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Chicken and egg. I would hope that you have a pretty darn good idea of what asset(s) you need to move to obtain an established top 2 Dman. If you're going to move Gagner, Galchenyuk is pretty obvious as a replacement. If you (God forbid!) trade Hall to land Norris Trophy type Dman, then draft Yakupov to replace him.

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#46 Gavin
May 22 2012, 04:39PM
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@Robin Brownlee

My short list would be Therrien, Martin, Sutter, and I would not be shy about Maurice, because he bet us for a cup in 2006.

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#47 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
May 22 2012, 04:44PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

So you do not prescribe to the Pierre lacroix theory? he went with a younger Marc Crawford because he wanted a younger, more progressive coach with whom the players could relate and grow. The NHL landscape is changing and we are seeing lots of younger coaches having success, for the reasons lacroix identified, and most likely because younger coaches are more likely to embrace new methods like leveraging advanced stats and the like. Tambo may go with the veteran coach because he hasn't had an origonal thought in his life, but all you have to do is look at Dan Bylsma, Guy Boucher, Kevin Dineen, Kurt Muller and others to see that younger, innovative coaches can have success, more so than re-treads in many cases. When you look at the resume of a Cooper, I do not know how you could call hiring someone with his track record a "flyer".

exactly! look at the final 4 coaches this year as proof.. or the coaches in the finals last year..

wait, what were we talking about?

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#48 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
May 22 2012, 04:45PM
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@Gavin

Maurice didnt bet or beat anyone for a cup in '06.. unless it was for a cup of beer?

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#49 Quicksilver ballet
May 22 2012, 05:04PM
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~Robin, this Blue Oyster Cult group you speak of, are the from before Duran Duran, or after?~

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