NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY

Robin Brownlee
July 03 2012 02:28PM

The Edmonton Oilers are building some reasonable depth on defense in terms of quantity, but it seems to me there's still room to add quality and that's why it seems likely GM Steve Tambellini will make another move to bolster his blue line this off-season.

Even after added prized unrestricted free agent Justin Schultz to a blue line that includes Ladislav Smid, Ryan Whitney, Jeff Petry, Nick Schultz, Corey Potter, Andy Sutton Theo Peckham and Colten Teubert, Tambellini is open to adding another proven piece. Tambellini said so today.

"If we have a chance, regardless of who we have, we're going to do it," Tambellini told Bob Stauffer of Oilers Now on 630 CHED. "There's no question about that."

Tambellini's take, given how lack of depth on the back end – particularly as it pertains to defenseman ready to play in coach Ralph Krueger's top two pairings -- has been exposed the last couple of seasons, is welcome. You can't have too many real NHL defensemen. You can, as we've seen, have too few.

STRENGTH IN NUMBERS

While every one of the players I've listed above is or projects as an NHL defenseman, it seems to me there's two tiers in the group the Oilers have in the fold and under contract now.

Petry, Smid, Whitney, Nick Schultz and Justin Schultz, if all the hype has merit, are legitimate options for top-four duty, although the extra body count does hinge on how Whitney's troublesome ankle rehabs and if Petry doesn't go sideways after making big strides at the end of last season.

As a group, the foursome of Potter, Sutton, Peckham and Teubert looks capable of rotating through the final two spots, with one in the press box. That said, it's hardly an untouchable bunch, given Sutton's age and that Teubert has yet to prove he can play beyond spot duty. Not a lot of margin for error.

It makes all the sense in the world for Tambellini to pursue another top-four guy. While that won't be big deal UFA Ryan Suter – the Oilers won’t get near his short list of U.S. teams – he might be able to move some of the usual suspects up front to get what he needs. If that bumps somebody in that first group of five down, so be it. If either Schultz, for example, is in Krueger's third pairing, the Oilers will be in pretty good shape. Tambellini will be taking calls and making some.

Sort them out later.

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#1 Thor762
July 03 2012, 02:33PM
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Robin do you think a possible deal for Bowmeester is likey?

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#2 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
July 03 2012, 02:34PM
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MPS + a secondary prospect for a 2nd pairing Dman or MPS + next years first for a 1st pairing Dman, please.

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#3 Antony Ta
July 03 2012, 02:37PM
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If we need to overpay to get Matt Carle, we should do it. He is at the right age and when the Hemsky/Smyth contracts expire we will be glad we did it since the cap is going up.

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#4 Antony Ta
July 03 2012, 02:39PM
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Alternatively, I don't know what PK Subban's status is with Montreal, but if we could flip a roster player plus some of our RFA's and a high pick (2nd 2013?) for PK, I think we would have nailed our needs in the top 4 with the freedom to continue to pursue whoever is on the market.

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#5 Rama Lama
July 03 2012, 02:40PM
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Why not go for the big prize and wait for Webber?

Poile must be hurting now with the Suter situation, and may lose this player very soon. He is not going to make that mistake twice, and lose Webber next year,........ so the deal has to be made this year and waiting for the trade deadline next year, is risky.

Webber to the Oilers for what ever it takes outside of the fab four!

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#6 Old Soldier
July 03 2012, 02:48PM
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I read on another site that Philly has the highest cash offers submitted for both Parise and Suter. Looking at their cap situation, if that were to happen I wonder if they would be even remotely interested in moving Scott Hartnell and Andrej Meszaros for non-roster prospects and picks to free up money.

Hartnell gives us skill and size in the top 6 and the definitive option to move Hemsky/Gagner. Meszaros is a relatively young defenceman with good offensive instincts, size and average defensive skills and a reasonable cap hit.

With those additions we could package any of MPS, Omark, Lander, any of the defence prospects and Anaheims 2nd round pick next year. Hemsky and/or Gagner could then be moved to get us some serious bottom 6 help and we could look at dumping Belanger, Eager and maybe even Hordichuk.

Just a thought

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#7 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 02:50PM
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I personally think J Schultz, Whitney (if healthy) and Petry give us plenty of offensive depth on d. For their shut down partners I think Smid and N Schultz are great. The last spot is the one I am concerned with and Sutton isn't way over his head in that role.

D looks much better this year, and it sounds like Klefbom is very close to NHL ready. This means without any changes I would say we are ok this year and strong the next on D. If they decided to start Klefbom this year this is how I see our D.

Petry-Smid, J Schultz-N Schultz, Whitney-Klefbom, Sutton

I am hoping both Paajarvi and Hartikainan are ready to move up as well. This would add the size we need on forward. I would still love to see them add 1 power forward but the group is improving.

Paajarvi-Nuge-Eberle, Hall-Gagner-Yakupov, Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky, Hartikainan-Belanger-Jones, Hordichuk

A lot of the same guys or their AHL backups in the lineup, but this lineup looks a lot stronger then whatthey actually iced last year.

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#8 dietflannel
July 03 2012, 02:52PM
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I'm sorry, but some of these trade proposals are ludicrous.

Bouwmeester: with that contract and given that we'd be sending something CGY's way, no thanks.

PK Subban for a roster player, some RFAs and a 2nd rounder? MTL isn't on bath salts.

Trading for Weber with one year left as an RFA? I wouldn't give up half of what it would take to get him out of there for one season. Too short sighted.

In all reality, the Oilers should be looking at a guy like Yandle: he's 25, signed for four more years at a reasonable 5.25, has played 164 games in the last two regular seasons, and has put up a lot of points. Couple this with the fact that PHX is financially constrained and you have the ability to trade prospects for a legit top pairing d-man.

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#9 Jasmine
July 03 2012, 02:54PM
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@Thor762

Oilers don't need that overrated Blowmeester. Teams that have Blowmeester don't make the playoffs.

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#10 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 02:58PM
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I personally think J Schultz, Whitney (if healthy) and Petry give us plenty of offensive depth on d. For their shut down partners I think Smid and N Schultz are great. The last spot is the one I am concerned with and Sutton isn't way over his head in that role.

D looks much better this year, and it sounds like Klefbom is very close to NHL ready. This means without any changes I would say we are ok this year and strong the next on D. If they decided to start Klefbom this year this is how I see our D.

Petry-Smid, J Schultz-N Schultz, Whitney-Klefbom, Sutton

I am hoping both Paajarvi and Hartikainan are ready to move up as well. This would add the size we need on forward. I would still love to see them add 1 power forward but the group is improving.

Paajarvi-Nuge-Eberle, Hall-Gagner-Yakupov, Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky, Hartikainan-Belanger-Jones, Hordichuk

A lot of the same guys or their AHL backups in the lineup, but this lineup looks a lot stronger then what they actually iced last year.

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#11 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 03:03PM
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oops, took forever so I hit submit a second time.

Why would we want PK Suban? All I have heard about his character is negative and he is not great as of yet. May still pan out, but if he is a cancer keep him far away from this team.

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#12 Mitch
July 03 2012, 03:18PM
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Robin I can see Edmonton holding on for a while, maybe until christmas before they move on a dman if they choose. Many good young up and comers I was very impressed with Klefbom. I think that it would be in EDM best interest to have him in NA, even if it means just to get used to the culture.

Yakupov and Klefbom are on a much differnt level then any other prospects, I will put Justin Schultz in this catagorey just on the basis of how many teams pursued his services,as well highlights I have watched.

Marincin I feel will also turn out as well but it will take time.

If I was most worried right now its on the wings. I don't like how the 3rd line projects and the 4th line won't see enough ice to be a factor most nights. So if I could have a wishlist it would be a heavy body to play left wing with Hall and Yak or Hall and Ebs. Maybe Eager takes the odd turn up there or maybe Pitlick gets a look. Its just the grind of 82 games and trying to make the playoffs that concerns me when I look at the top 6 guys and I know Gagner will get alota time at centre on 2nd line as well.

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#13 Antony Ta
July 03 2012, 03:20PM
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I don't think a roster player like Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky, or Magnus Paajarvi would be ridiculous at all. If anything, depending on the RFA being considered, that 2nd round pick might need to turn into a 3rd round pick.

Obviously tweaking would be necessary, but IMHO it is not as out to lunch as you seem to suggest.

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#14 Eddie Edmonton
July 03 2012, 03:20PM
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Harti-RNH-Eberle

Jagr-Hall-Hemsky

Smyth-Horcoff-Yakupov

Eager-Lander-Jones

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#15 dyarchy7
July 03 2012, 03:28PM
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any truth to the fact the oilers put a offer in to carle

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#16 dyarchy7
July 03 2012, 03:28PM
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any truth to the fact the oilers put a offer in to carle

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#17 MrCondor
July 03 2012, 03:29PM
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How do people realistically think we are going to get a top pairing D man for spare parts? It's going to take a lot more than Paajarvi and a draft pick.

I'm betting Hemsky + Paajarvi + prospect or draft pick to get the type of player we need.

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#18 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 03:29PM
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I would not go hard after Jagr, but would not be sad to see him sign. I am sure it won't happen. That being said if it did there is no way you put Yak with a defensive centre on the 3rd line.

Would have to change you order to

Harti/Paajarvi-RNH-Eberle

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov

Jagr-Horcoff-Hemsky

Harti/Paajarvi-Belanger/Lander-Jones

Obviously Jagr is a big body with skill. The problem is I see him being an overpay for one or 2 years that stops one of our young guys from progressing properly.

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#19 glenn schwarz
July 03 2012, 03:31PM
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Pollie must be crapping his pants about now. He lost Suter for nothing he could lose Webber for nothing, I listened to Bobs show today and Webber was brought up (also by Matty). Matty thinks one of the top 4 must go the other way that's tough but for a top 5 D man in the league i think you have to look at it. How would our d look if Webber was an Oiler is he worth loosing Hall or Ebs? it's a real tough call but one Tambo might have to make.

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#20 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 03:37PM
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@Mrcondor I agree that it would cost a lot to get a 1st pairing Dman. Most likely more than we are willing to give up. If you look at our current top 5 and some of the prospects I disagree that we need a top pairing Dman. Obviously in an ideal world you have a Pronger, Lidstrom, Chara, or Weber that plays close to 30 minutes a night, but these are franchise players, and usually to get a franchise player you have to give up a franchise player. I think with one more top 4 shut down Dman all of our D pairings looks very tough to play against, and we could rotate them fairly evenly.

I would be looking at a 3-4 Dman that is a large, tough, shut down guy with good foot speed.

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#21 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 03:46PM
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@ Glenn Schwarz

We would be in the same boat as them. We would have to give up a star to get him and then we would be at every bit as much risk as them in losing him in a year for nothing.

I would not touch Weber unless he was signed long term, to a reasonable cap hit. If he signed a 5 yr deal at a cap hit of 7 million or lower (Not going to happen judging by the fact he will probably get around 10 million per year in free agency)

If he was signed to this type of contract then you try to work out a trade. I would look at Eberle but would probably try to offer Hemsky, one or 2 prospects (other then Klefbom) and our #1 draft pick next year. If neither of those deals got it done I would walk away even though it would hurt to do so.

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#22 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
July 03 2012, 03:54PM
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@ glenn schwarz

I don't think many people would consider the first round pick from the defending champion of 1st overall picks a spare part.

Also, a top pairing Dman doesn't mean an allstar, it means on of the 60 best defensmen in the league, I'm pretty sure PRV + next years first would land us someone in the 40 - 60 range.

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#23 Will
July 03 2012, 03:58PM
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dietflannel wrote:

I'm sorry, but some of these trade proposals are ludicrous.

Bouwmeester: with that contract and given that we'd be sending something CGY's way, no thanks.

PK Subban for a roster player, some RFAs and a 2nd rounder? MTL isn't on bath salts.

Trading for Weber with one year left as an RFA? I wouldn't give up half of what it would take to get him out of there for one season. Too short sighted.

In all reality, the Oilers should be looking at a guy like Yandle: he's 25, signed for four more years at a reasonable 5.25, has played 164 games in the last two regular seasons, and has put up a lot of points. Couple this with the fact that PHX is financially constrained and you have the ability to trade prospects for a legit top pairing d-man.

Well said. I think the fans should just simply forget about PK Subban, and Weber. I mean, ok so Weber is going to maybe be a free agent, but his contract will be the largest one awarded to date, guaranteed. And PK Subban, the guy's a franchise player, especially now that his Brother is on the Bruins. That would be like us trading Smid, I h=just don't think that after all the time and effort we've put into him it makes sense to trade him.

Good call on Yandle, I have been drooling over the thought of seeing Yandle on our blue line for a while. The guy is defensively responsible, and offensively gifted. He would bump everyone down in our group, be a better replacement for Whitney (whom if not recovered will likely not be qualified next year), and provide us with another durable d man.

I guess the question is what do you trade for him?

Outside of him, however, I think our blue line needs a hard hitting shut down defender, basically another Smid, or Seabrook like player. Sutton said it best on the last episode of Oil Change, "Smid has become this nasty defensive defender. He blocks shots, is hard to play against, and is just mean to guys." That way we'll have a puck mover and a stay at home on every pairing. Plus we'd have a bit more grit without giving up penalties. Yandle - N. Shultz / Smid - Petry / J Shultz - Mystery player. I do think Tubert, Peckham, or eventually Klefbomb or one of our other prospects could fill this role, but why not have a legit guy here, and let our prospects develop at their own pace, getting call ups during bouts of injury (which alway, always always happen) and time as the number seven defender (as Sutton is done next year, and it feels like Peckham might be gone as well)

It feels like a very offensive and less physical defensive core, but also incredibly solid and deep with few holes.

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#24 dietflannel
July 03 2012, 04:06PM
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@Will

Those guys are pipe dreams that are too expensive.

Well, Whitney will be a UFA, not an RFA, so there is no qualification process; however, if we improve our blue line and he sees a future, we may be in a better position to actually retain him rather than keeping the cap space right now.

I'd be comfortable in a MPS + Gagner (potentially +) for Yandle. If it takes our second-rounder next year, I do it. If it takes a prospect like Musil, then PHX needs to beef up with something else on the other end. The fact of the matter is, if it works out to be a fair trade, then some fans on both side should be whining about it. You need to give up quality to get quality, hence why I refuse to include Omark in this proposal.

The Oilers' blue needs this top pairing dman, because, if everyone can shift down one pairing, we look significantly more impressive than the current state of affairs.

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#25 Oilcruzer
July 03 2012, 04:15PM
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Jagr?? No. Besides he's in Dallas.

Oil have to move money and people. Philly is out.

J Bo is not over rated, just not a scorer. A big Smid in a way.

His contract is too big tho.

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#26 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 04:20PM
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@dietflannel

Not a chance in hell I touch this trade! You would give up one of our better froward propects (with size and speed) and our 2nd line center for 1 Dman that is not a franchise Dman, and did not play the toughs last year.

That leaves our forwards decimated for a decsent Dman. that would leave our centre depth at Nuge, Horcoff, Belanger, and Petrell. This hole is to big to bare.

If it was Hemsky plus a defensive prospect other then klefbom I would do this deal. If we need to throw a mid range draft choice in we have extra next year.

Personally I would rather get a shut down dman and have Whitney as my 3rd pairing offensive Dman. If he regains mobility we are set. If not, we can look at trading part way through the year. If he gets us through another season Klefbom should be ready.

I would throw up if Horcoff was our 2nd line centre again!!!!!!

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#27 DieHard
July 03 2012, 04:21PM
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We could use another top 4D. I wouldn't want to trade Hemsky or Gagner to do it. This team will need them both. Swap a few bottom 6 and/or prospects (not Klefbom or Harti or PRV). Someone with a year or 2 left at 4ishM per year that the other team needs to clear cap with.

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#28 Quicksilver ballet
July 03 2012, 04:23PM
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@ Rama Lama

Amen to that. Things could fall apart quickly once Suter makes his decision. Aim for the top and settle for nothing less.

It's a shippy thing that happened to the Ducks (Schultz) and it's a shippy thing the Predator fans are going to have to go back to square one if Weber leaves for greener pastures.

What are your thoughts of gifting a roster spot to Klefbom to keep him here?

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#29 Butters
July 03 2012, 04:27PM
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I am not sure what the Oilers have that other teams want, except for the Untouchables. The Oilers top 6 look like they could be lethal, but the forward corps still looks thin to me. A few key injuries and next June we might be debating picking Nathan Mackinnon or Seth Jones.

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#30 DieHard
July 03 2012, 04:28PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

Klefbom should stay in NA and play 9 games in the NHL and the rest in the A.

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#31 bazmagoo
July 03 2012, 04:30PM
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Personally I think Carle would be a great fit for the Oilers, but we'd probably have to overpay quite substantially and would probably guarantee we don't attempt to re-sign Ryan Whitney (is that a bad thing? debateable).

Ideally I'd love for the Oilers to convince Klefbom to stay and play in the NHL this season. That would make our top 8 defencemen:

Whitney - N Schultz

Smid - Petry

Klefbom - J Schultz

Sutton - Peckham/Potter

I'd be content with that improvement for 2012/13 with all the young d-men we have coming up.

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#32 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 04:33PM
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@ Quicksilver ballet

Suter would be the dream and we would go from one of the 2 weakest D groups in the league to one of the top 3 by adding him and J Schultz plus another year of maturity through the developing D. If Whitney was healthy I would say that this is D to rival any in the league.

That being said Suter is going to get grossly overpaid and I don't want that for our team.

I heard Klefbom has agreed to come back to the rookie camp and main camp, which is after SEL starts their season. If he has a good camp, I would have no problem giving him a spot, but I think you would need to commit to him for the year as it could nurt the team relationship with him, if we got him to come over and then sent him down to the AHL.

I would think with him being the rawest of the group you would need to pair him with Smid, N Schultz, or Whitney. I put Whitney earlier but I think I would change this to N Schultz as he could proably move down to the 3rd pairing and he is a good shutdown Dman.

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#33 Wax Man Riley
July 03 2012, 04:35PM
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Cody anderson wrote:

I would not go hard after Jagr, but would not be sad to see him sign. I am sure it won't happen. That being said if it did there is no way you put Yak with a defensive centre on the 3rd line.

Would have to change you order to

Harti/Paajarvi-RNH-Eberle

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov

Jagr-Horcoff-Hemsky

Harti/Paajarvi-Belanger/Lander-Jones

Obviously Jagr is a big body with skill. The problem is I see him being an overpay for one or 2 years that stops one of our young guys from progressing properly.

How do you have either Harti or PRV on the first line?

There is no way they come out ahead of Hall, Hemsky, Yakupov, or even Smyth. Maybe with some time they will be top line players.....maybe.

If I see them on the top line this year, then they have made amazing strides, but I think you put to much value in their current abilities.

They may spot in on the top line to shake things up during a tough night, or a losing streak, but that's about it. If they start the year in the AHL, it will be fitting.

No sense in rushing them. Earn the time, fellas.

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#34 bazmagoo
July 03 2012, 04:35PM
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@DieHard

Why would Klefbom agree to play for the OKC Barons when he could play in Sweden and make more money honouring his current contact?

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#35 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 04:40PM
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@Bazmagoo

D does look much better then 2011/2012 especially if Klefbom is ready. No way I start either of the rookie D togethr or with Petry. There is always a learning curve for a new NHL Dman and having them partnered with good shut down guys lets them be creative, try things, make mistakes, and have a solid guy behind them to cover their ass. I am afraid even if they both had above average years for rookie Dmen if they were together their mistakes would be magnified hurting their confidence, and our media and fans would label them as turn over machines.

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#36 dougtheslug
July 03 2012, 04:40PM
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Off topic but there is a report in the journal today (story by Cam Tait on the Brick Tournament) that RNH is in the US having his shoulder examined by a specialist. Saw a news report of him at a charity golf tournament a few weeks ago and he was cranking his shoulder around and massaging it like it was bothering him. What gives? Anyone have any inside info? Maybe the hockey gods who have been so generous are going to have us start the season with Hall and RNH on the disabled list.

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#37 DieHard
July 03 2012, 04:42PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Why would Klefbom agree to play for the OKC Barons when he could play in Sweden and make more money honouring his current contact?

How much does he make in his current contract?

Playing in OK is a higher level than the SEL. It also gets him used to NA hockey and can be called up quickly when needed. If he's still in the SEL he can't be called up.

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#38 lolhockey
July 03 2012, 04:44PM
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I don't think Paajarvi or Harti start the season on the top two lines. They'll have to earn it. It can't just be because of their size otherwise this'll be just like the J.F Jacques experiment that Quinn did.

As for Gagner, unfortunately, I think he's "untouchable" unless we're getting someone back to replace him or Hall plays centre.

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#39 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 04:46PM
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@dougtheslug

I read today that Nuge said it was just a regular check up and that everything checked out OK.

Supposively we was back out golfing with Legaila?? after the check up.

Scared the hell out of me too. Hopefully they are not hiding anything.

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#40 bazmagoo
July 03 2012, 04:47PM
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@DieHard

Can't seem to find how much he makes on his current SEL contact online anywhere. I'd guess it's more than the $80,000 he'd make in the AHL, at least double if not triple.

I'd say it's debateable that the AHL is better quality hockey than the SEL. SEL players make on average around $200,000 - $350,000 per season according to these pages:

http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?6068-Salary-levels-in-European-top-leagues-and-in-NA

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1030213

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#41 justDOit
July 03 2012, 04:56PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Why would Klefbom agree to play for the OKC Barons when he could play in Sweden and make more money honouring his current contact?

There are benefits for him to play in NA next season. First, his AHL club should be near the top of the league again, and there should be some valuable playoff lessons learned next season too.

Secondly, he has to adjust to the smaller ice, the NA game in general, and get used to playing almost 100 games per year. None of these things can be accomplished in the SEL.

Third (and most importantly) - have you SEEN the pics of the OKC twins? I hear that they have similar things in Sweden though...

Klefbom is on record saying that he doesn't want to play over here until he's ready, but I think his devel camp performance pretty much declared that he's at least AHL quality.

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#42 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 05:01PM
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@Wäx Män Riley

I agree there is obviously no way they are ahead of Hall, and I think Smyth is a better player if used in limited amounts so he does not get fatigued like last year.

I would put Paarvi on one of the top 2 lines as I think he needs to play with finesse players to be effective. His rookie season that he looked really good for he was top 2 lines almost the entire season. last year he was 3rd and 4th. lets face it our 3rd is a defence first line and our 4th is AHL/roughians, not exactly elite players.

I would like to see the top 2 lines as balanced scoring lines so it is harder to send out top checkers against them. that is why I put Paajarvi on 1 and Hall on 2.

The difference between Harti/Paajarvi and JF Jacques is that they are big guys with skill. Jacques is not an NHL player in my mind. against certain teams or on some powerplays I undersatnd having the muscle with your skilled frowards for protection or to stand in front of the net as a screen and have pucks bounce off of them. If the player cannot play as well as fight he has no business on the top 2 lines on a regular basis.

Hartikainan I would have on the 4th line as I feel he will do well there and can move up the lineup if need be. If Smyth keeps them out of the lineup then it was a mistake resigning him.

He is still a solid player if used in the right spot, but these guys are ready to play and could be a big part of our future. Smyth may add some this year and to a lesser extent next year, but in my mind the primary reason to have him there is as a mentor. Having the oldest guy on the team be the last one off the ice, practicing an hour after everyone else leaves is a great thing for our young team to be exposed to. Hopefully it will be infectous and get our young guys working that much harder in practice and off the ice.

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#43 Dog Train
July 03 2012, 05:01PM
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We are in a good spot. I would rather have too many bodies right now than not enough. There is no rush to make a move but opportunities will come along as teams get close to the cap or end up with a roster imbalance between forwards and D. I wouldn't mind one more gritty forward if we are to part with a roster player up front.

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#44 Cody anderson
July 03 2012, 05:08PM
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I think there are benefits to both the SEL and the AHL. I think in the SEL you are playing against more skilled men where as in the AHL it's generally skilled boys and men that are AHL role players. If they were full grown men with good skill playing in the AHL they would be given NHL opportunity.

Playing in the AHL gets him used to the North American culture, media, more contact and the smaller rink. I would prefer he played in the AHL if he is not NHL ready, but the player himself said he would prefer to play another year in the AHL. Unless it is clear before he comes over it is to play in the AHL I think you might be burning bridges with him. If he moves because we tell him he is NHL ready, and we need him on the NHL team and then we cut him, you are hrting his confidence and trust in the team.

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#45 justDOit
July 03 2012, 05:29PM
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As much of a coup as it would be to land a Suter or Weber, it's even better to grow those bean-stalks yourself. Draft em, develop em and use them until they're no longer affordable - just don't let them walk for nothing. Strangling your cap with a $100M/13yr contract is not an ideal situation to be in.

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#46 bazmagoo
July 03 2012, 06:35PM
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I agree in an ideal Oiler world getting Klefbom over here to play in the AHL would be perfect. That way he would get used to the North American style of play and all the other things that have been listed.

But if Klefbom is set to make $200 K over in the SEL next season, we are being unreasonable if we are asking him to come play in the AHL at $80 K next season.

If there is a great chance of him sticking around all season in the NHL, however, I could see him being open to that as that bumps his salary up quite significantly to $900 K or so.

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#47 Ronald
July 03 2012, 06:38PM
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Ive read all the comments and not one person has even mentioned taylor fedun. Before his unfortanate "accident" during pre - season last yr he was almost a garuntee to make the team. He's calm under fire, doesnt throw the puck away, doesnt panic, and makes very smart intelligent plays both with the puck and more importantly without the puck. If both fedun and schultz make the team this season and whitney returns to form of a few seasons ago, then our back - end looks just fine with trhe emergence of petry, the development of smid and sutton being his usual self.

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#49 Walter Sobchak
July 03 2012, 07:02PM
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@dietflannel @ jasmine

Sorry Brownlee I usually agree with you.

Bouwmeester would be huge if we got him. He is a true top pairing defensemen.

That guy played on a miserable team and played tougher minutes, his defensive zone starts are extremely impressive and far better then Yandle, blocks more shots and hits more while taking almost no penalties.

Yandles minutes are more sheltered then Bouwmeester, I am not saying I don’t like Yandle, I just don’t think you need him as bad on this team with three players all having the same like skill set, Petry-Schultz and Whitney.

Bouwmeester career point totals are close to the same as Yandels, as for the cap hit your looking at 1.4 million in difference.

I also like the fact that Bouwmeester is an Edmontonian, while Yandle is an American. I know it shouldn’t matter.

We would be so lucky to get a player like Bouwmeester.

P.S I say sell the farm and go after Weber myself!

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#50 Wax Man Riley
July 03 2012, 07:17PM
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@Walter Sobchak

You think "sell the farm" in the sense of trade Eberle or Hall for him?

That is the only way I see a trade working out. I don't know that Hemsky and Gagner do it for him. Plus you know he is going to demand $7M+ and probably 10 years....

Not sure it's worth it...

How about Nail? Trade him before he plays a game?

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