I would like to point out again....

17% of gags offensive totals came in one game. Thats about as firmly a 2nd line center as a chub is a boner.

Hope Sam signs. Like Doobies signing. Gotta say more than 'FIST' next time. Oilers are getting set for next year. Schultz signing here brings credibility to Edmonton being desirable place to play.

Have we traded Horcoff yet?

The two signings make sense to me when some other details are taken into account.

Dubnyk's dollar amount certainly makes sense when taken as an industry standard. Even more so when one considers that Dubnyk's backup by season's end is not going to be Khabibulin.

As for Petry, this contract still leaves him as an RFA at the end of it. In which case a long-term contract now only buys RFA years, while a long-term contract two years from now, though more expensive, not only gives the team more time to hedge their bets on him as a player and means that the next contract buys the more productive UFA years.

Why are there no posts about the 'insane' $9 million two year contract the NJD gave Brodeur, who compiled a .906 save percentage facing just under 25 shots per start while Dubnyk was at .914 while facing just under 33 per start, no doubt including far more quality chances?

I also note Halak faced only 26.3 shots per start. Save percentage is not like batting average, where everybody faces the same pitchers, more or less, under the same basic circumstances. Save percentage is like Plus-minus. It tells you something of value but can be highly misleading. Someone who plays big minutes on a team with the worst even strength goal differential and ends up at -5 has likely done a Hell of a lot better than a big minute guy on the team with the best goal differential who ends up ONLY plus 5. And then there are the factors, like linemates and matchups. Using these stats to say, for example, that Dubnyk is the 18th best goaltender in the NHL is beyond idiotic. Of course it is impossible to say precisely how much better his numbers would be on a better defensive team but an analysis that factors in shots per game and quality scoring chances per game would tell us a lot more.

There are also rumblings that Getslaf is on the market and I would much sooner see him than Dubinsky.The guy is a proven winner,killer on face offs and tough as nails.Speakings of Nails he would look great on Getslafs wing.Gagner,peckamOmark and a pick might get it done.

Nobody wants Peckham. Scratch his name off that list and add Tyler Pitlicks and then you might have a deal.

Boxman, the problem is that even if the Oilers put a string of 4 cups in 5 years together DSF would be upset that no one scored 215 points in a season or he would focus on the 15 games they lost and not the 67 games they won.

Just like a cranky old neighbor, some guys can't be made happy. I had to ask my dad if he was DSF because he's the same way. You just have to learn to laugh at them but love them anyway.

*big hug sent to DSF*

There is nothing to suggest he would have taken a 2 year deal at 2.5. I'd suspect he'd have taken the market value 2.5 on a one year. Then next summer he's a UFA and you're back to square one and he holds all the cards. It's not like he signed a five year 5.25 million dollar contact.

For me, the dollar value is irrelevant as it's not my money and it wont affect the teams ability to keep the young core together - we don't have cap issues and the contracts wouldn't keep the players from being traded if required. They are two young players that have all the arrows pointing in the right direction and two years keeps them hungry.

I wish we had a magical unicorn at 2nd C. They're big as horses!

*whinnys and rides off into the sunset*

Would you trade Gagner, Hamsky and Paajarvi for Bobby Ryan?

Results in us

A) moving Horc to 2C B) maybe not getting another D man...

Is this an over payment? Remember you need to give something to get something...

You know the Oilers have missed the playoffs six years in a row and are working on seven, right?

Get back to me when they can play with the Big Boys.

I'd do it, but keep gag's and throw in whatever picks needed to get it done.

The Oiers should trade half the team plus the kitchen sink for Getzlaf

Getzlaf is UFA after next year.

Trade for Ryan and have him rejoin him after next year as a UFA signing.

sign mueller that is all!

Your all under the impression that we were supposed to win. Poor misguided fans. The last two and a half seasons were a tank job. Restock the prospect cupboards.

I think Samwise will get what Perron just signed for, 4yrs 15.25mil. Seems reasonable to me.

We need a big line physical long term (3plus years)center this year if we intend on climbing in the standings . Our youth deserves that, or their could be trouble down the road signing these elite talents . Priority one . Second priority is defence . Hopefully first priority will be on board for start of season . Defence should be better than last year but still could use a top notch talent .

Seguin , Evander Kane a possible target ? Nash and Getzlaf would be far more expensive i would think . For the price of the latter two , i'd prefer a stretch for Toews as unlikely it is we could pry him from the Hawks .

Too bad Gagner was not so streaky , and slow starter each season . Kane(Chicago) worth persuing to help Gagner ?

dubbys contact is ok,term is great let him prove himself as there is not lots out there.bad goalie contracts?depietro,luongo,ask the flyers about bryzgalaaf!now we need tamblowe to get off his butt and make a trade or two,cause oil fans are not watching another last place finish,we just need to teach tamblowe that you do not start a trade by saying "we are pleased to select",its probably making other gms hang up!!!!!!!!

@DSF That's a great point that they've missed the playoffs for, going on, 7 years. But I'm not talking about the Oilers. I'm talking about how we all need to show you love. Even cranky neighbors need to be cared for. *HUGS*

REFLEXIONS ? DEJA-VUE ? Meeting the crossroads . Last time we made playoffs we did it with many players who wanted out after our big run . We did not recover . If we did it again , i believe we could recover with our tremendous youth this time . Longer term benefits than just a rental and perhaps time to trade that type before the exodus rather than get nothing for it . Perhaps maybe two players like that might be worth the risk-reward ? Opens up some new alternatives even though Tams seems committed to players on a longer term basis . It worked for us once , it may work again with less after effects this time .

Cheap Shot Charlie

You are definitely on the right track. Nobody knows what has turned DSF into such a negative Nancy but it is clear he needs to be surrounded by positive caring people to turn this around. *HUGS* for you DSF.

I don't like the comments being edited by the moderators. If someone is posting inappropriate material, their comment should be removed and their account should be suspended. If the moderators feel that someone posted something that in their opinion is dumb or childish, they shouldn't be editing posts. Online forums are never going to be a perfect science, but putting words in other peoples mouths isn't right. If someone is only creative enough to come up with "Fist", why not post a response to that comment Jason, rather than changing the original post?

...o comeon Number44...y'haven't lived until you've been edited out or even partially by the brownlee or the gregor...

...and gregor BTW ? great piece

...lotsa good work thankyou...still think he's being overpaid by a million5 though...js

I would go 4 years at 13.5$ for Gags

Yes, it's an overpayment. Ducks are looking for a 2nd line Center and Gagner would fit perfectly there. For some reason they want to unload Ryan, who's a 30+ goals big winger. This could be a match made in heaven, since Oilers want to try Hall at center. Can you imagine Ryan-Hall-Eberle followed by Hemsky-Nuge-Yakupov

I agree we would have to give up something on top of Gagner to get Bobby Ryan, but it would have to be something smaller, like next year's 2nd rounder+Mark.