RNH: DOUG WEIGHT 2.0?

Robin Brownlee
August 12 2012 11:15AM

The Edmonton Oilers haven't had a player break the 80-point plateau since Doug Weight did it in 2000-01. The way I see it, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, who was eight years old when Weight accomplished the feat, will be the next – likely this coming season, the CBA willing.

It's been 11 seasons since Weight tallied 25-65-90 and the Oilers haven't had a player bump past the 80-point mark since then, although Jordan Eberle took a good run at it with 76 points last season and Ales Hemsky, who has breached the 70-point mark three times, had 77 in 2005-06.

While Eberle and Taylor Hall (if he can cut down on the number of headers he takes into the boards) are obviously candidates to join the 80-point club, I see Nugent-Hopkins, who had 18-34-52 in 62 games as a rookie in 2011-12, as the likeliest to achieve it first.

Nugent-Hopkins, 19, reminds me more than a little bit of Weight in terms of substance and style – he's smart, he's quick and shifty on his skates without possessing blazing top-end speed, he has excellent vision and anticipation and has a knack of putting the puck where his wingers can do something with it. And there's the number thing -- 39 and 93. If Weight is a distant memory for you, here's a video refresher

Those qualities aside, Nugent-Hopkins goes into 2012-13 with more firepower around him – Hall, Eberle, Hemsky and Nail Yakupov -- on the power play and as potential linemates than Weight ever enjoyed during his distinguished tenure wearing the oil drop.

WHAT'S REASONABLE?

In pegging Nugent-Hopkins for 80 points, I'm not talking about "Reasonable Expectations," as defined in the series Lowetide provides ON readers. That's a different measure – more of a bottom line. I'm talking about my expectations for the coming season – the top-end of what I believe Nugent-Hopkins is capable of as this point in his career.

I'm not using spreadsheets and a whole bunch (any) advanced statistical analysis here. The Bronte 5000, a Commodore 64 in the context of today's technology, is simply not capable of processing it.

In simple terms, if you project the 18-34-52 numbers Nugent-Hopkins produced in 62 games as a rookie -- .29 GPG, .55 APG and .84 PPG – straight across over 82 games, you get 24-45-69. Hey, Brownlee, that's not 80 . . .

Of course, it's not as simple as that and this is where my head begins to hurt – what about ice time, power play time, linemates, quality of competition, zone starts and all that other stuff (that goes into making an educated guess)? Insert sound of my brain flipping inside my skull here.

MY BOTTOM LINE

. . . While Nugent-Hopkins won't get as many protected minutes as he did from Tom Renney last season, he will certainly play more than the 17:36 he averaged last season as the clear-cut No.1 center right out of the gate under Ralph Krueger.

. . . I don't see anything unsustainable in the 13.4 shooting percentage had last season. It's not so high (Eberle was at 18.9) a marked drop-off seems likely and not so low that I see huge room for improvement.

. . . I think the Oilers will score more goals than the 212 (including shootout wins) they had last season. How many more? If a much-improved power play can stay in the top-10, I don't think 235-240 is unreasonable. RNH will be in on a greater share of those than he was last season.

Numbers aside, I like the way Nugent-Hopkins thinks the game and, like Eberle (and Weight), he has an understated competitive streak that drives him to prove doubters and critics wrong – the SIUTBOHC factor. Remember that fluke fall into the boards that cost him the Calder Trophy? Fuel.

On top of the ability to process the game and the I'll-show-you streak, Nugent-Hopkins is smart. I'm not concerned he won't be able to sneak up on anybody as a sophomore or that his name will be circled on white boards around the league. Yes, opponents have had a season to compile a book on Nugent-Hopkins. The flipside is he's had a year to size them up, as well.

Move over, Douglas. RNH is on the way. I'd bet sooner than later.

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#101 Wanyes bastard child
August 13 2012, 09:49PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Mike Babcock just called me. He has read what you have to say and he tells me he MUST have your phone number. Pass it along to me and I'll make sure he gets it.

Thanks in advance.

Did Babcock tell you that he read LT's post on what Eberle will score next year and tell you that he is out to lunch as well?

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#102 Wanyes bastard child
August 13 2012, 10:04PM
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So... I just googled moma2 and this is the site that I found;

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread839767/pg2 (I would have linked it but I lost the sticky note on how to do it that stocc told me somewhere...)

After a quick scan through the website I found a whole lot of nothing and more importantly not a lick of data or credit suggesting it is being implemented by any major hockey sports team. So, while he talks the talk he has nothing to back the walk so to speak.

Something else I found interesting is this one comment, bad grammer aside, is what I think most of us have been thinking;

" reply to post by one4all Let's here your hockey resume, because any body with any hockey sense, aint reading your thread. It's a mash up of nothing,hell you night as well play with six forwards & no goalie. Put a board up in net and if you get it in the hole you get a goal. You have zero hockey sense, zero as in nothing, nathan nada. I want reply any further as I feel I'm argueing with a third grader."

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#103 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
August 13 2012, 10:16PM
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In dog days of summer, where hockey news are far from plenty, such an article (and comments) is a welcome breath of "fresh" air.

A somewhat sincere thank you to you, NewAge!

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#104 NewAgeSys
August 13 2012, 10:18PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Oops, my bad Soupy.

Appears to be a lot of hot air. Last time i checked the Oilers failed miserably against the Kings the last two times they played last season. Even with this all too important newage system locked down, apparently stolen from NHS and implemented, the Oilers still got blasted 4-1 and 2-1. Who the heck can we blame for that systems failure!

I think the word i used was the data was scalped off of the Oilers site by LA where I had posted it specificly for the Oilers.

I freely gave the data online to the Oilers as I created the system for the team,and wanted to share it.So it was given to the Oilers,at least what I released then was given,because the data was on an open forum and the Oilers wouldnt hire me to get the data off-line as I suggested I was forced to keep posting data in public to keep it streaming out.

It was through this dynamic that Jarret Stoll either of his own accord or by someones direction tuned in soaked up my data--he is quick study--and then went straight to Sutter and with 25 gms to go they immediatly began a seriousattempt to integrte NHS core values ito their hybrid system.

I say Jarret because he was the first King to clearly be useing NHS tactics at the mark of 25 gms left.I pinpointed him IMMEDIATLY the first time he engineered anNHS style zone transition.Then the Kings really worked the NHS into their hybrid executeing accurately and adjusting well.Right to the cup no team{without my intervention and provision of NHS data}was able to turn LAs adjusted NHS/hybrid at the gates.

And I was asking you to look at the GAME not the score,I want you to look at the zone transitions and the style of play both teams are useing,break down each offensive transition zone by zone and analyse them and look for commonalities between both the Oilers and Kings systems games and then those games similarity to EVERY game right through to the cup for the Kings.You need to also consider how both teams were playing systemwise ten games before the point where they began to use the NHS.You need a clear point of reference for the changes evolution so you need to do more video watching of prior games the opponents dont matter just how LA and the Oilers execute their hybrid systems without NHS input.we need a baseline.Then we can accurately analyse the games I originally directed you to.

I remember those two games tell us how the winning goals were scored in those games?Were the LA goals system induced or were they one-man hero type goals,individual efforts so to speak??Then remember how they were finishing games consistantly through the entire playoffs??See a commonality there?And remember as the NHS creator I only released partial system data on-line ,non-critiacal stuff I could easily integrate into the hybdid system without breaking anything down and complicateing the adjustment I tried to keep it simple and seamless.I protected the Oilers interest or potential interest in the NHS by holding back the bulk of my system data that is critical.So you see I NEVER showed the Oilers or LA online how to integrate consistant and effective offence into an adjusted hybrids system check-mate.I just showed how to jazz up a hybrids offense without sacrificeing any defence,and how to use that adjusted hybrid to initiate a system check-mate or a full rink trap.Not really pure NHS at all .just core value concepts of NHS added to a conventional hybrid system.

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#105 NastyNate
August 13 2012, 10:28PM
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@NewAgeSys

And i always thought Peter Popoff's miracle water was a scam.....

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#107 Quicksilver ballet
August 13 2012, 10:57PM
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@NewAgeSys

Nothing you've posted here Newage leads us to believe you've reinvented the game.

Can you give us something,a trinkette from your program..... anything, something a little more than, just be the best team getting off the bus that day? With all this psychological mumbo jumbo you've suggested, it's like any beer leaguer could succeed if they use your 12 step program.

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#108 NewAgeSys
August 13 2012, 11:18PM
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@2:00 AM

I asked the Oilers to take the iniative and contact me so many times it contributed to my being banned from their website ,I didnt expect a sudden acceptance,remember I had to raise a lot of Cain with management as an anonymous poster and at the same time keep the posts filled with NHS system data so players could read it and acess it,I was and am now well aware that contrary to the Oilers website Moderators repeated claims to the fans there Oilers players and Management do in fact visit the website,because it is nutty to suggest that none of them EVER without a doubt ever acess this cyber-resource.

I didnt expect a professional team to just jump up and endorse me without seeing positive results first,but I didnt expect to be sandbagged by a video coach or someone in the chain of data relay to the bench,obviously my NHS data was being implemented on the ice but no one was willing to officially validate me as the source in any way shape or form.This didnt suppress my NHS system data from getting out there,it just kept a wall up between me and the Oilers bench preventing the coaches from getting all my NHS data at once as I wanted to do---yet the stream of data I continued to provide continued unabated to the bench and into the Oilers hybrid system adjustments in fact the relay and reaction times from the coaches got faster,but there was still no validation.

My NHS has already been integrated into quite a few hybrid systems,Oilers,LA,and all LAs playoff opponents.So it has been tested and it has already supported a Stanley Cup winning team in the LA Kings.I say thats tested,officially recognised and credited is another story,that would take a team of people and a lot of frank honesty form a lot of hockey profesionals.

I understand how you connect testing to validation,however as a visual thinker I have already watched it be superior thousands of times in full color video as i created it.

I am still here promoteing the NHS and anyone who reads enough of my data will have to honestly admit there has never been a system like it ,anywhere.Only the Oilers 80s PP is comparable.But the NHS is a full complete 5 on 5 system.

I have been looking for a team to hire me and give this a go,I have hounded the Oilers on their website for two years.No response there.

Obviously as this systems creator I want to see it produce results,wins,points and more Stanley Cups.I am out here appealing for opportunitys to make this system an NHL benchmark or standard for ten years or more,it is what it is.My expectations were realistic two years ago and in my opinion I have taken leaps and bounds I hadnt anticipated because the internet was much more effective at disseminateing data than I thought it would be.

I am not off course at all.

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#110 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
August 13 2012, 11:25PM
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I know what most of you are thinking: I have troubles reading accomplished authors; why the f*** would I devote 3 seconds of my "youth" to NewAge?

But I challenge you to read paragraphs 2 and 3 of comment # 104 (pretty much the only thing I read), and dare to tell me this is NOT a stupefying, and yet a remarkable, spoof!

Another bravo to you, NewAge!

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#112 Wanyes bastard child
August 13 2012, 11:27PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Can I start a petition for an IP ban?

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#113 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
August 13 2012, 11:29PM
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Wanyes bastard child wrote:

Can I start a petition for an IP ban?

What? No! Everyone should experience this!

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#115 the big GRIGowski
August 14 2012, 01:36AM
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@NewAgeSys

Three things:

1. Are we being punked? Seriously. If so, utter brilliance my man. Freaking epic.

2. We need evidence. Not, "I understand how you connect testing to validation,however as a visual thinker I have already watched it be superior thousands of times in full color video as i created it."

No wonder no one will answer your calls. How can anyone take you seriously if you can't provide a shred of evidence of your system actually working, or it being superior to those of thousands of coaches over the span of decades?

3. Send your data to Mr. Willis or Lowetide (the two major stat geeks on the site). Let them validate it.

I can guarantee that if either of them sees the value and brilliance in it, they will pass it on to exactly the type of people you are trying to impress or, at the very least, blog about your mastery of hockey strategy. They will give you credit for your work. Heck, you might even end up as a regular on NationRadio. Is there a bigger honor than talking with LoweTide every week? I think not.**

And once they've blogged it, you'll have your choice of teams to work for.

Your manifesto could spread so much quicker if the Nation ever updates their site with sharing options. Is this 1998? Is this site hosted by Geocities? Let me check my Netscape bookmarks.

Oh.....c...r......ap.....my.....28....8.....m...o....de...m...

***Maybe Wanye but he's too busy fantasizing about Ebs and Zuch to be bothered.

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#116 the big GRIGowski
August 14 2012, 02:17AM
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The best part of this drama?

Everytiime I refresh I get to see the Nuge.

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#117 Matt Henderson
August 14 2012, 08:51AM
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I invented a Banana peeler once. Turns out people wouldnt buy it because "their own freakin hands" seemed to be working just fine for them.

They had no respect for my New Peel System. It revolutionizes the peeling of Bananas by unlocking the untapped potential of the colour spectrum and its positive energy fliud like movements THAT WE ALL USE INTUITIVELY.

I am no ordinary inventor, I dont ask, "What do we need?" or "How can I change lives?" Instead, I ask "How can I peel this G#d-D@mned Banana without getting my fingers ooky from the under side of the peel?" Well the New Peel System will do just that. It requires only the NPS tool...and a Banana. I've shown this tool to monkeys at the zoo and within minutes they Peeled more bananas than previous, just CHECK THE DATA. The zookeepers couldnt explain it but put any one of those smoking monkeys on a POLYGRAPH and they will spill the beans faster than you can Peel a Banana, WHICH WILL BE LIGHTNING FAST with the New Peel System.

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#118 NewAgeSys
August 14 2012, 09:47AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Nothing you've posted here Newage leads us to believe you've reinvented the game.

Can you give us something,a trinkette from your program..... anything, something a little more than, just be the best team getting off the bus that day? With all this psychological mumbo jumbo you've suggested, it's like any beer leaguer could succeed if they use your 12 step program.

Yes,against the outdated "hybrid"system and the NHS adjusted hybrid system I think any minor league team or farm team would easily dominate,the NHS players just need to be of average size and physical abilitys in their sport,the sport as its currently played defines average size.

A team or an individual does not have to subscribe to traditional thinking to become dominant in a competative dynamic,they must manifest or engineer a series of repeated and interconnected dynamic situations ,all of which have the same catalyst and ultimate goal,or direction,the more times you stray from a straight line the higher the odds of a more complicated and long trip to your destination.As a competitor you must be able to identify the shortest most consistantly efficient path to each of this series of situational dynamics you must create,micro-dynamics is what they are called within the NHS.And they are a critical tactical core value of any offensive system.There also happens to be a mathematical connection that the NHS teaches players to utilise that is related to useing micro-dynamics to manipulate their opponents body posture and positioning.

I didnt re-invent hockey,I invented a new and dynamic offensively catalysed system of playing ice-hockey,a system unlike any other.

The mumbo jumbo is also known as winning attitude.

Tell me what you think of the NHS give me your analysis,because without questions you cannot learn how the NHS functions.Give me a scenario,something tangible to base an answer on.To learn you need to give me a way to validate the systems tactics and philosophys by challenging the system techniclly,or dynamicly.

I already know that your perspective will come from a "hybrid"system perspective,because that is the system most NHL teams play.

Question something specific,vauge claims of system inefficiency or other negativities are meaningless until there is a challenge that exposes core structure and function.

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#119 the big GRIGowski
August 14 2012, 10:43AM
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@NewAgeSys

"There also happens to be a mathematical connection that the NHS teaches players to utilise that is related to useing micro-dynamics to manipulate their opponents body posture and positioning."

Sorry NewAgeSys but I'm clearly not intelligent enough to know what this means. Can you please be more specific and dumb it down a little for me? How do NHS players manipulate their opponents body posture and positioning using micro-dynamics?

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#120 TigerUnderGlass
August 14 2012, 10:55AM
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to top it off in my second chess game ever I two moved an experienced player mostly because I understood the concepts of time and space as applied to a chess board and the capabilitys of the pieces

Unfortunately I missed most of this thread, but I wanted to note that the comment above is far and away my favorite from this thread and has been underrated by all of you so far. Please give this comment its due or I too will invent a "special" hockey system.

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#121 NewAgeSys
August 14 2012, 11:06AM
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the big GRIGowski wrote:

@NewAgeSys

Three things:

1. Are we being punked? Seriously. If so, utter brilliance my man. Freaking epic.

2. We need evidence. Not, "I understand how you connect testing to validation,however as a visual thinker I have already watched it be superior thousands of times in full color video as i created it."

No wonder no one will answer your calls. How can anyone take you seriously if you can't provide a shred of evidence of your system actually working, or it being superior to those of thousands of coaches over the span of decades?

3. Send your data to Mr. Willis or Lowetide (the two major stat geeks on the site). Let them validate it.

I can guarantee that if either of them sees the value and brilliance in it, they will pass it on to exactly the type of people you are trying to impress or, at the very least, blog about your mastery of hockey strategy. They will give you credit for your work. Heck, you might even end up as a regular on NationRadio. Is there a bigger honor than talking with LoweTide every week? I think not.**

And once they've blogged it, you'll have your choice of teams to work for.

Your manifesto could spread so much quicker if the Nation ever updates their site with sharing options. Is this 1998? Is this site hosted by Geocities? Let me check my Netscape bookmarks.

Oh.....c...r......ap.....my.....28....8.....m...o....de...m...

***Maybe Wanye but he's too busy fantasizing about Ebs and Zuch to be bothered.

Thank you for the direction,as a matter of fact that is the type of spot I was hopeing to find.

I understand the absurdity of this dynamic,but then again have you ever seen video of Spud Web dunking a basketball?

I watch Americas Got Talent sometimes and am blow away,almost every show there is someone who is better at their trade than most professionals out there,real gems,that produce superior results with very little support system.

I never even played organised ice-hockey,in my life.

I couldnt coach my way out of a wet paper bag,not on my own,I dont have the knowledge base,or personal experience,thats not what I can do,all I need is an existing communication network and acess to the coaches,then I can show a team how to dominate useing the NHS,the system requires all the ingredients I cannot provide,and once its taught its taught,but I need ALL the people in their regulars spots working full out of their own accord as usual.

I have said in the past I could use the Farm team playing the NHS to defeat the Oilers regular NHL lineup in a 7 gm series,in 4 gms,but I always say WITH their coaches and communication system in place as it is.I am an adjuster--I do not have the qualifications to deal in anything more technical than dynamics,this is admitted fact--but none of these shortcomeings I apparently carry seem to have an impact on the system I created or the results it can put a team in a position to achieve.

And no I am not Punking you,ha ha ha.Epic mad brilliance??No way,just the way I see things, put it this way,I think soccer games should always be 8-5,every game,its IMHO impossible to not score this much with so many transitions and possesion changes,and space,it just seems unnatural to see low scoreing games in that environment.A system is based on philosophys that cumulatively work together to to catalyse specific sets of micro-dynamics in specific sequences consistantly,this is known as the winning formula.And the plays will always be like lego pieces going wherever the system needs them,but by design---we will ALWAYS recognise these plays,we need to see the order and timeing of the presentation clearly to identify system core values.

Just saying something like"those are just hockey plays from 20 yrs ago" or "can you give us proof that it works" these statements are vague and non-specific,of course my NHS contains all hockey plays in context all systems must--you need to identify weaknesses in how I utilise those 20 yr old plays before you can fairly question their execution and timeing in the NHS.The proof it works is evidenced when a team strays from its normal system and adopts specific and ordered NHS core values,then actions those adjustments and recieves consistant positive results,then maintains these NHS adjustments.I already mentioned the Oilers,Kings,and the LA playoff opponents who implemented the NHS on the fly last year.I even targeted the timeline when my data hit mainstream,with about 25 gms to go lst year,and was being implemented,I even listed games between LA and the Oilers where BOTH teams were learning to implement the NHS into their hybrid systems at the same time,both adjusting and executeing very very well.

Hopefully I can see this data validated here and just answer questions.

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#122 NewAgeSys
August 14 2012, 11:19AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:
to top it off in my second chess game ever I two moved an experienced player mostly because I understood the concepts of time and space as applied to a chess board and the capabilitys of the pieces

Unfortunately I missed most of this thread, but I wanted to note that the comment above is far and away my favorite from this thread and has been underrated by all of you so far. Please give this comment its due or I too will invent a "special" hockey system.

Ha ha ha,i never really liked chess,my friend had to show me what every piece could do before our first game ,I learned what the pieces did in 20mins,lost a game to him,then two moved him,I realised I was lucky and refused the rubber match and never played another game in my life,but if you google chess two move win kasparov--you will see it was his favorite move.

I am serious about the applications of time and space concepts on that board,I just had to know what the pieces could all do to know their limitations then find the shortest route out of the game.End the game in as fast a time as I could and cover as little space with the men as possible to do this.

I wasnt really playing my friend I was playing the board and the dynamics of the game itself,my friend wasnt a focused concern the rest of the board we werent useing was.I wanted out of the game as fast as I could get there,so it was just a maze,like a puzzle as long as you see the parameters of the playing field and know the capabilitys of the pieces in all aspects,then its just a matter identifying the shortest route.This is what the NHS teaches players to do,to play the game from a new perspective.

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#123 the big GRIGowski
August 14 2012, 11:31AM
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@newagesys

You want your data validated. What data are you referring to? I haven't seen any.

"I already mentioned the Oilers,Kings,and the LA playoff opponents who implemented the NHS on the fly last year.I even targeted the timeline when my data hit mainstream,with about 25 gms to go lst year,and was being implemented,I even listed games between LA and the Oilers where BOTH teams were learning to implement the NHS into their hybrid systems at the same time,both adjusting and executeing very very well."

Prove to me that they adopted the NHS and didn't just make adjustments (that are well-established and not revolutionary). This isn't a difficult task.

Prove those teams adopted your system. How did they get the info/data?

Prove those teams adopted your system. When did they stop telling their players to create time and space? How did they know to change their jargon to properly execute the NHS.

I'm getting a little disappointed that you've made not a single effort to prove any of your claims. It's no different than me claiming I've slept with every woman that Lowetide has ever included in his posts. If you're wondering how I slept with all of those celebs I can prove it. "Technically it is called 3 dimensional visualisation and anyone can do it with practice,but some of us are born professionals." And by the way, it's true. Prove me wrong. Oh wait, for you to actually believe that statement, I guess it's up to me to prove it right. Right?

@tigerunderglass

"I have said in the past I could use the Farm team playing the NHS to defeat the Oilers regular NHL lineup in a 7 gm series,in 4 gms,but I always say WITH their coaches and communication system in place as it is"

The above now takes the cake.

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#124 NewAgeSys
August 14 2012, 11:38AM
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the big GRIGowski wrote:

@NewAgeSys

"There also happens to be a mathematical connection that the NHS teaches players to utilise that is related to useing micro-dynamics to manipulate their opponents body posture and positioning."

Sorry NewAgeSys but I'm clearly not intelligent enough to know what this means. Can you please be more specific and dumb it down a little for me? How do NHS players manipulate their opponents body posture and positioning using micro-dynamics?

Good question and I have a great example from last years playoffs that LA took straight from the NHS book,It was provided for the Oilers but the Kings also used it.

When LA was entering the o-zone and then shooting the puck after a tiny delay from the top of the faceoff circel cross ice forceing the goaltender to make a toe save,do you know why they were doing it that way?

Forget about the obvious dynamics of the play and put yourself in the goalies shoes,now listen to me whisper in your ear that I am about to make you do something you dont want to do,because you see when that cross ice shot comes from that spot a tiny delay included,the tender has been given time to set his feet for the primary threat and he squares to the puck--angle his feet,then when the shot is delivered low post on the tenders right side --he is FORCED to turn his feet and he essentially freezes himself,and has very little reboud directional control because of the movement of his feet and the resulting body posture and mechanics.Now an up-speed winger comes flying in and recieves the rebound as if it is a perfect pass and burys it in the net.

This play was used over and over by LA because it was one of my first major NHS system tactics I released online.It may be just a hockey play,but its also a tactical decision within the NHS for many intangible reasons.

This elimination of the goaltender through the manipulation of his body positioning and posture through the creation of a series of micro-dynamics all culminateing in the goal off the perfect toe pass,is the example Ithink you are looking for.

Now go back and read the Canucks site posts and see how I gave them NHS data to counter this tactic,same with the Wings.

On this particular play the up-speed man comeing into the zone late also needs to focus on manageing a series of micro-dynamics as he approaches and enters the o-zone.He needs to angle out the d-man who will be in the middle with a feint or a fake to slide him over to the middle more or stutterstep him to keep that rebound off the tenders toe available and accessable.

The math part is simple that there are only so many directions and angles your body position will allow you to utilise at any given time--there arent that many and when players learn the total number they are not intimidated they have a more complete picture,then they learn to micro-manage their opponents body positions as a system reqirement to support offensive dynamics we want to develop turning a d-mans feet or head or body at the right time to syncronise a developing play this is the management of these micro-dynamics I talk about---we create them.

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#125 The Soup Fascist
August 14 2012, 11:42AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:
to top it off in my second chess game ever I two moved an experienced player mostly because I understood the concepts of time and space as applied to a chess board and the capabilitys of the pieces

Unfortunately I missed most of this thread, but I wanted to note that the comment above is far and away my favorite from this thread and has been underrated by all of you so far. Please give this comment its due or I too will invent a "special" hockey system.

.... once you get in that Knight's head or get the Bishop off their game, they are incapable of doing more than moving one space backwards.

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#126 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
August 14 2012, 11:57AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:
to top it off in my second chess game ever I two moved an experienced player mostly because I understood the concepts of time and space as applied to a chess board and the capabilitys of the pieces

Unfortunately I missed most of this thread, but I wanted to note that the comment above is far and away my favorite from this thread and has been underrated by all of you so far. Please give this comment its due or I too will invent a "special" hockey system.

Brilliant!

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#127 TigerUnderGlass
August 14 2012, 06:02PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

Ha ha ha,i never really liked chess,my friend had to show me what every piece could do before our first game ,I learned what the pieces did in 20mins,lost a game to him,then two moved him,I realised I was lucky and refused the rubber match and never played another game in my life,but if you google chess two move win kasparov--you will see it was his favorite move.

I am serious about the applications of time and space concepts on that board,I just had to know what the pieces could all do to know their limitations then find the shortest route out of the game.End the game in as fast a time as I could and cover as little space with the men as possible to do this.

I wasnt really playing my friend I was playing the board and the dynamics of the game itself,my friend wasnt a focused concern the rest of the board we werent useing was.I wanted out of the game as fast as I could get there,so it was just a maze,like a puzzle as long as you see the parameters of the playing field and know the capabilitys of the pieces in all aspects,then its just a matter identifying the shortest route.This is what the NHS teaches players to do,to play the game from a new perspective.

I can't believe I'm engaging ....but that's not how chess works. Unfortunately you have to play an opponent.

Winning in two moves is everyone's favorite thing to do in chess, but it doesn't mean you get to do it against anyone without a debilitating brain injury...even if your name is Kasparov.

This whole discussion has passed so far beyond stupid that it's circling back around to awesome.

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#128 Mulli35
August 15 2012, 01:41AM
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7 minute ABS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdWntqCLwg

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#129 NewAgeSys
August 23 2012, 06:14AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Mike Babcock just called me. He has read what you have to say and he tells me he MUST have your phone number. Pass it along to me and I'll make sure he gets it.

Thanks in advance.

Tell Mike Babcock that I would be happy to talk to him any time at all,and please pass on that I will not post my phone number here but will respond immediatly if he provides me with a number here that I can call,I apologise for the dynamic ,and I am serious about being glad to talk to Mike Babcock as I tried to do so dureing the playoffs and was unsure if I was able to get through until I saw him adjust his team.On another note to Mike Babcock,that was the fastest ,most crisp,execution of the NHS inspired hybrid adjustments I saw outside of the Oilers last year,I would have said outside of LA but Edmonton actually has it down better{players adding NHS core valuse in increments} ---and that was without the direct support of the coaches through a total systemwide adjustment like LA had last year.This shows me there is probably a top three communications base in his organisation in Detroit,those type of immediate and accurate and crisp adjustments to an entire system on the fly dont just happen,top three in the NHL communication wise in my opinion.

Robin,you can also leave a phone number or an e-mail address here if Mike Babcock is hesitant to directly open a line of communication here on-line,and I will reply ASAP.

After the amount of controversy my advocation of the NHS has created I cannot see the wisdom of posting my personal info online--but will respond immediatly if that step is initiated by someone else.

I also have this silly little validation issue that is a carry-over from past experiences,and seeing as that is my personal dynamic and not that of people interested in the NHS,I am at the present in a position where I must respectfully ask anyone interested to extend me the benefit of the doubt and to post their contact number online as part of my validation of the NHS chronological history.My requirement to defend the NHS regarding the validation of source issue is a forced dynamic that I am trying to eliminate permanently,not eliminate critique of or evolution of the NHS --just the validation of source issue.

And on a slightly more"be here-be now"moment ,I currently have a pay as you go cell phone with about 30sec of time on it,and my internet services are a going concern,but the band marches on,ha ha ha.

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