ABOUT JONES: THE OTHER RYAN

Robin Brownlee
August 28 2012 09:51PM

Ryan Jones won over many (not all) of his critics by scoring 17 goals last season as a follow up to the 18 he potted during his coming out party with the Edmonton Oilers in 2010-11. It was a classic case of SIUTBOHC for those who thought his emergence was a fluke, a one-off.

Add up those two seasons, and the Flowmeister has scored 35 goals, most of the hack-and-whack, close-in variety. But, as the saying goes, the bottom line isn't how, but how many. Over the past two seasons, only two forwards have scored more goals while draped in Edmonton silks – Jordan Eberle has 52 and Taylor Hall has 49 despite being interrupted by injury. Sam Gagner, also out for long periods, has 33. Ales Hemsky? Nope. Bad shoulder. Ryan Smyth has potted 42 in that span, but one of those seasons was with L.A.

I liked Jones before a lot of people around here did, but I'm not for one second putting him in the same class as Hall and Eberle or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, who has just one season under his belt. Duh! Likewise, Hemsky will outscore Jones if he stays healthy (actually healthy, not just well enough to be in the line-up) for 65 games. So, too, whipping boy Gagner.

That said, there is no question, at least in my feeble mind, Jones is a handy guy to have around. He's a decent-sized winger who can spot in on the top two lines in a pinch because of his nose for the net and he's well-suited to a grinding/energy role. He's an adept penalty killer.

The question, and one facing new coach Ralph Krueger, is where does Jones fit in the 2012-13 mix when the puck finally drops given the talented kids ahead of him, the arrival of Nail Yakupov and that Magnus Paajarvi and Teemu Hartikainen will be vying for ice time?

ABOUT THAT THIRD LINE

The way I see it playing out, the Oilers just might have a pretty good third line on their hands if Krueger puts bodies in the places that would seem to make sense – specifically, a line with Smyth on left wing, captain Shawn Horcoff at centre and Jones on the right side.

If we assume that Krueger's first line will see Hall and Eberle flanking Nugent-Hopkins and Gagner playing between Yakupov and Hemsky, and I think that's a safe bet given what Krueger has said, that leaves the trio of Smyth, who can and will also play further up in the line-up as a safety net for Yakupov, Horcoff and Jones.

That sets up a less-than-ideal situation where Paajarvi and Hartikainen are looking for ice time with Eric Belanger, Ben Eager, Lennart Petrell and Darcy Hordichuk. It could be reasonably argued Paajarvi and Hartikainen are fits for the third line, but they'll have to wait until injuries strike or GM Steve Tambellini does some weeding out.

If Smyth and Jones are the primary wingers for Horcoff, opposing goaltenders are in for a faceful of backside via No. 94 and No. 28 when that line's on the ice. I also like it that there's some counterstrike capability there against teams loaded in the top-six but thin below. Smyth could flirt with 20 goals again if he isn’t run out of gas by too many minutes and Jones will get his 15-18 goals.

The lines, as they always are, will be a carousel of players as Krueger looks for fits, but my guess is a third line of Smyth, Horcoff and Jones might be a very pleasant surprise in 2012-13.

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#1 Reality Check to the head
August 28 2012, 09:56PM
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Jones is one of those glue guys. He isnt the toughest SOB out there, but I have rarely come away from a game thinking..."boy jones really did not put in an effort tonight." Jones may be replacable at some point, but at this moment he is a solid NHL player.

Good Article Brownlee, good luck with the new entreprise!

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#2 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
August 28 2012, 11:06PM
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Ryan Jones to me is a similar version of Pat Hughes. You need guys like him who give you the same effort night in and night out.

Pouzar, and Hughes types, every good team needs a couple of these type of guys. Hopefully the top half of the roster starts to gel while Jonesy is still here.

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#3 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 29 2012, 09:22AM
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Alex Mathis / Switzerland wrote:

Hi guys from Oilersnation!

Just wanted to provide you with some news of another Oilers player: Linus Omark signed a one year deal with EV Zug from the Swiss Elite League. Here is the news (written in German):

http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/sport/eishockey/evz/EV-Zug-verpflichtet-NHL-Spieler;art101,197191

As I live close to Zug, I am looking forward to watching Linus Omark live in hockey games. Meanwhile, I am disappointed that the Oilers are losing him...

BTW: On the roster of EV Zug, there is already Jussi Markkanen in Goal as well as players like Josh Holden and Andy Wozniewski.

Have good day over there!

Good riddence Linus.

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#4 BurkeTheTurd
August 29 2012, 10:56AM
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Guess with Omark gone, gets rid of one small forward. Looking back, guess Tambo would have been better of getting a 6 or 7 round draft pick for him.

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#5 Dave
August 28 2012, 10:23PM
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Reality Check to the head wrote:

Jones is one of those glue guys. He isnt the toughest SOB out there, but I have rarely come away from a game thinking..."boy jones really did not put in an effort tonight." Jones may be replacable at some point, but at this moment he is a solid NHL player.

Good Article Brownlee, good luck with the new entreprise!

What is Robin's new enterprise ?

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#7 Oilcruzer
August 28 2012, 11:26PM
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Nice RB.

If allowed to add two cents... It certainly ain't just the points, but also the attitude and enthusiasm. Guy gets it... Respects the fact he is one of the few allowed to live the dream, does what he has to, unquestioned, to keep that position.

We could all name a bunch of players who should have had the talent to make it in the show, for any number of teams. Goes to prove that skill means squat if you don't have it together upstairs.

"Gettin it" is why a guy like Buchberger had a long and respected career.

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#8 pelhem grenville
August 29 2012, 06:55AM
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Ryan Jones is, for me, Dave Lumley...period

Lummer came with his 'A'game night after night, which meant there were times when he'd race around like a fart in a mitt...he'd hit anyone who was there and would on occasion score an important goal...his PIMs were usually strategically timed infractions that would almost match his crafty way of drawing a timely penalty...i will always remember the empty netter he tallied with seconds remaining in the game to win the first Cup...i was between the benches and watched the look on Billy Smiths' face go from a hopeful public enemy #1 to vanquished warrior who saw that the end was near...that's what i think Jones could bring in the near future...he's exactly what any team like the Oilers need now and when they are contending...i hope he has a solid place on this team going forward...as well Lummer had the flow goin' on at times too...

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#9 Manfly
August 29 2012, 08:14AM
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^ among my favorites too...and i could care less about Omark, he's barely NHL calibre...Robert Nilsson 2.0

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#10 The Soup Fascist
August 29 2012, 09:39AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...here's an interesting lil diddy Soup...in my research i saw that Lummer was waived and picked up by The Hartford Whalers...played 48 games with them and was picked back up by the Oil those few months later to complete that season...time flew in those days...i just don`t remember which coma i was in when that happened ...

Semenko went to Whale Tails too, but I think it was a couple of years later. Semenko went on to be traded to the perpetual mess that is / was the Leafs. His disdain for then Leafs coach, John Brophy was pretty evident in Sammy's book.

But back to Lumley. The younger ON readers may be surprised that the Oilers record for consecutive games scoring a goal (12) is not owned by a Gretzky, Messier or Kurri, but by Dave Lumley.* Also important to note that during that run he was playing with Wayne Gretzky, who, if I remember, banked a couple off of Lummer's backside.

But Lumley, IMO, was best known for driving opposition tenders crazy by "bumping" them occasionally and was not above cheap shotting the odd opponent, especially if they got too close to Gretz. Lumley was a beauty.

* Re-reads to find he sounds amazingly like the annoying Cliff Clavin**

** Realizes most ON readers are too young to remember who Cliff Clavin is.***

*** Realizes he is older than dirt. Sigh ...

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#11 OvenChicken8 - Team JSBM
August 29 2012, 10:14AM
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Ryan Jones is a sex machine. I think he will regress this year when it comes to scoring but he will be a solid 3/4 guy for years to come with this young team.

Jones is the type of player you need to win. He knows his role, works hard and chips in from time to time.

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#12 oldhippy
August 28 2012, 10:04PM
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good article. I kind of forget about Jones. Everyone wants to push Harti or MPS up to the top two lines, but what about Jones. The guy is putting up close to the magic 20 goal season with limited PP, and rarely playing with the gifted athletes. If a player needs to spot in on the first or second lines to bring a physical element, I would prefer a proven veteran like Jones, over a timid MPS or a young Hartikanen.

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#13 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
August 28 2012, 10:04PM
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Solid utility player, good 3rd liner/great 4th liner.

Glad we've got him.

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#14 Johe
August 28 2012, 10:13PM
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Every good team needs players like Jones. Not as vital as the "flashy offensive producers but valuable nonetheless.

I also feel obliged to point out that your projected lineup has Hall playing on the first AND second line. He's GOOD, but maybe not THAT good... ;)

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#15 Cervantes
August 28 2012, 10:22PM
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(you doubled up Hall in your proposed top 6 in the middle. Think you mean to say Hemsky)

Jones is exactly what a competing team needs. A versatile winger on a good contract who can consistently land you 40 points or so. Guys who can take on anywhere from 1st to 4th line minutes without looking entirely awful. Smyth is in the same boat. This is the kind of depth you use to chew up a team with a weak bottom 6, and hopefully Kruger uses it wisely.

Also, because of the depth, I'm going to be very disappointed if we don't roll 4 lines this year. Doing a 20-15-15-10 break on the minutes would keep Horcs/Smytty fairly rested, and allow a good mix of shelter and fight for the kids. I have very little problem letting a non-gassed 94-10-28 line shut down another teams top 6 while the kids chew on the middle 6. Or let the kids have a good fight and let that third line destroy the other teams bottom 6. In games where there's no need for Hordy, a Eager/Belanger/Harski line is just fine, and has some decent speed and bang.

The worst thing that can happen to this team is our vets still putting in 22 minutes a game covering the hardest minutes. Hopefully the coaches actually see that this year and aren't overly focused on sheltering the kids. Another season of 22-22-11-5 split would not only ruin the vets, but it gives no opportunity for MPS or Harski, and is basically a waste of a fourth line.

That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the plan was MPS/Harski/Lander on the top line in OKC and Eager/Belli/Petrell in the bigs. Personally I'd rather the kids got to play up here, I think their prime learning years are going to be burned in OKC and by the time there's room in the bigs they'l be too old to adjust to the pace (for reference see Vande Velde, Chris), but I can't see The Great Thinker Tambo making any moves to clear space and give the younger guys a shot. Which is a shame, because with properly picked minutes, those three guys could be a real threat, and all of them have shown they can keep their head above water in the bigs. I fear we'll burn out their ELC's and they'll move on to a team that will let them play, while we enjoy the waning years of Eager/Belanger/Petrell and their combined 15 goals.

Anyways, /ramble. We have an obvious logjam at the bottom 6 that ruins our balance and depth, and in a year or two we'll have a logjam on defence where there's no good minutes available for any of our several excellent prospects. Tambo has misunderstood depth and flexibility, and instead of having a well stocked farm team and a rotating crew of waiver-exempt guys getting NHL minutes, we've got a logjam of mediocre bottom line players that we don't want to waive for fear they'll be picked up, and all our prospects are going to stagnate at the AHL. Good for OKC and Todd Nelson, bad for the team two or three years from now when we need depth for Cup runs and have nobody good to move up.

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#16 Oilfan69
August 28 2012, 10:34PM
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http://oilersnation.com/2012/8/16/54-and-6-down-the-road-together

this article of robin's talks about his new enterprise.

hopefully the whole nation supports him in it :)

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#17 The Soup Fascist
August 28 2012, 10:34PM
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What I like about Jones is the game means something to him. He wears his heart on his sleeve and shows immense joy when he or the team scores and is genuinely pissed when things go poorly. My only issue was I wish he would play more ... Bitchy ... If that is the right word. If he could get under the opponents skin consistently it would make him that much more valuable. That pest role is something the Oilers do not have and have not had for ages.

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#18 Stallions35
August 28 2012, 10:39PM
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Hall- RNH - Ebs Hemmer - Gags - Yak That's a pretty awesome 1st and 2nd line... Smitty - Horc - Jonesy ( I like MPS here just to give the kid a shot/better opportunity before we write him off) Pettrell/ Eager/ Belanger/ Hartty/ Hordichuk to sort out the 4th line isn't bad...Hopefully we have hockey this season.

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#19 Ben
August 28 2012, 11:03PM
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Likes to hit, scores ugly goals and the few times that he has dropped the mitts he has done a decent job of it. Perfect third liner for the Oilers.

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#21 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
August 28 2012, 11:11PM
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Most seniors who go hiking, do so, accidentally.

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#22 Reality Check to the head
August 28 2012, 11:14PM
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@ Dave,

Go back into Brownlee's posts.

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#23 Johe
August 28 2012, 11:38PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

With so much consumer demand, I'm opening a Bronte 5000 outlet. Four gig hard drive, 16 megs of memory, a hot-rodded Commodore 64 processor AND it's no bigger than your typical piece of carry-on luggage. Just $1,799.99. Don't be fooled by cheap imitations. Payment plan available.

I'll sell a million of 'em.

WHERE DO I SEND THE CHECK?!?!

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#24 Pouzar99
August 28 2012, 11:54PM
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Everybody loves Jonesy, but if I remember correctly he spent a couple of nights in the press box when RK was filling in. Why? I think Soup Fascist is onto something. Call it nastiness or more consistent physicality, we need more of it from Jonesy. I am not talking about fighting. He has one or two a year against guys like himself and that's fine. But his overall physicality comes and goes. It needs to come and stay. When he finishes his checks with attitude in the opposition zone he is a far more effective player and I suspect that's the message RK was sending him. He and Hartikainen will likely battle over that third line spot. Jonesy brings more offence but TH brings more nastiness.

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#25 Manfly
August 29 2012, 05:51AM
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it will indeed be interesting to see what happens to Jones long term here, especially if Harti or Magnus happen to blossom this year...then what do you do with him?

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#26 Alex Mathis / Switzerland
August 29 2012, 06:26AM
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Hi guys from Oilersnation!

Just wanted to provide you with some news of another Oilers player: Linus Omark signed a one year deal with EV Zug from the Swiss Elite League. Here is the news (written in German):

http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/sport/eishockey/evz/EV-Zug-verpflichtet-NHL-Spieler;art101,197191

As I live close to Zug, I am looking forward to watching Linus Omark live in hockey games. Meanwhile, I am disappointed that the Oilers are losing him...

BTW: On the roster of EV Zug, there is already Jussi Markkanen in Goal as well as players like Josh Holden and Andy Wozniewski.

Have good day over there!

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#27 German Titov
August 29 2012, 06:28AM
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I should be on third line. Certainly am better than that kazyol Jones.

At least give me job writing for Oilersnation please.

Why choose Strudwick? He has only 13 career goals. He also lost more fights than me.

Blyad.

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#28 pelhem grenville
August 29 2012, 07:05AM
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Alex Mathis / Switzerland wrote:

Hi guys from Oilersnation!

Just wanted to provide you with some news of another Oilers player: Linus Omark signed a one year deal with EV Zug from the Swiss Elite League. Here is the news (written in German):

http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/sport/eishockey/evz/EV-Zug-verpflichtet-NHL-Spieler;art101,197191

As I live close to Zug, I am looking forward to watching Linus Omark live in hockey games. Meanwhile, I am disappointed that the Oilers are losing him...

BTW: On the roster of EV Zug, there is already Jussi Markkanen in Goal as well as players like Josh Holden and Andy Wozniewski.

Have good day over there!

thanks for the update there Alex...glad you're looking forward to watching your YouTube Phenom...prepare yourself for disappointment...

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#29 The Soup Fascist
August 29 2012, 07:06AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Ryan Jones is, for me, Dave Lumley...period

Lummer came with his 'A'game night after night, which meant there were times when he'd race around like a fart in a mitt...he'd hit anyone who was there and would on occasion score an important goal...his PIMs were usually strategically timed infractions that would almost match his crafty way of drawing a timely penalty...i will always remember the empty netter he tallied with seconds remaining in the game to win the first Cup...i was between the benches and watched the look on Billy Smiths' face go from a hopeful public enemy #1 to vanquished warrior who saw that the end was near...that's what i think Jones could bring in the near future...he's exactly what any team like the Oilers need now and when they are contending...i hope he has a solid place on this team going forward...as well Lummer had the flow goin' on at times too...

Not a bad comparison in terms of skill set, but you are missing the boat on hairstyles. Definitely flow versus 'fro.

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#30 Rob...
August 29 2012, 07:08AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

With so much consumer demand, I'm opening a Bronte 5000 outlet. Four gig hard drive, 16 megs of memory, a hot-rodded Commodore 64 processor AND it's no bigger than your typical piece of carry-on luggage. Just $1,799.99. Don't be fooled by cheap imitations. Payment plan available.

I'll sell a million of 'em.

And here I thought you were a shoe-in for a line of 'yak nuts' Edmontonian's could start hanging from their trailer hitches.

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#31 Stack Pad Save
August 29 2012, 07:09AM
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Hey Brownlee,

Nice article, you really put Jones' last 2 seasons into perspective that showed his value for the Oilers. However, I wonder if playing him on same line as Ryan Smyth and Horcoff is the right move. The problem I see with it is who stirs the drink on that line? What I mean by this is both Smyth and Jones get there goals human cannonball, wrecking crew, or garbage man style, which is great, however who on that line is going to get the puck to the net for those 2 to get the chances to score the garbage goals? I would like to see maybe Paajarvi with Smyth and Horcoff and maybe Jones starting on the 4th line and then like you said play him where ever the eventual injuries fall. What do you think?

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#32 pelhem grenville
August 29 2012, 07:13AM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Not a bad comparison in terms of skill set, but you are missing the boat on hairstyles. Definitely flow versus 'fro.

...i stand partially corrected 'bro

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#33 Next Year Country
August 29 2012, 07:16AM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Nice RB.

If allowed to add two cents... It certainly ain't just the points, but also the attitude and enthusiasm. Guy gets it... Respects the fact he is one of the few allowed to live the dream, does what he has to, unquestioned, to keep that position.

We could all name a bunch of players who should have had the talent to make it in the show, for any number of teams. Goes to prove that skill means squat if you don't have it together upstairs.

"Gettin it" is why a guy like Buchberger had a long and respected career.

Exactly!

Jones brings enthusiasm and a great work ethic. He goes to the tough areas, hits, is coachable, accepts whatever role he is given, is good in the room and great in the community, is a good role model for the young guys, and as Oilcruzer said: " He get's it." In addition to all of that, he loves playing in Edmonton. I hope he matches or exceeds his goal production this season. Besides, I love his interviews and his wicked sense of humour.

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#34 pelhem grenville
August 29 2012, 07:19AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...i stand partially corrected 'bro

...here's an interesting lil diddy Soup...in my research i saw that Lummer was waived and picked up by The Hartford Whalers...played 48 games with them and was picked back up by the Oil those few months later to complete that season...time flew in those days...i just don`t remember which coma i was in when that happened ...

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#35 BArmstrong
August 29 2012, 07:31AM
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Jones is among my favourite Oilers - gotta love character hockey players.

Too bad he's the nicest guy on the ice most nights. Hard to be angry when you KNOW that Taco Bell was your career path had hockey not worked out:)

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#37 Cody anderson
August 29 2012, 10:00AM
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If Kreuger goes with the top 6 you have suggested I would prefer to see MPS get the 3rd spot and have the 4th line as Harti Bellanger and Jones with Hordichuk subbing in for whoever is struggling when they need a tough.

I would like to see Eager traded and Letrell in OKC

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#38 Manfly
August 29 2012, 10:05AM
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having been alive long enough to have seen Lummer get the 12 goals to set the record (yes i am that old), i do see a lot of similarities between Jones and Lumley. i'd like to see the guy stay here and enjoy the Oilers success that is to come as long as he continues to play like he has the last few seasons. i don't think Harti or Magnus or anyone else "should" be given anything over Jones, and one or both of those kids could be used as trade bait in the future. just my 2 cents.

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#39 pelhem grenville
August 29 2012, 10:15AM
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...ah memory lane ...thanks Soup

most of these young lads and the odd lady here got a taste of what we went through with 5 SCF and great wins through those years by the ò6 run albeit without the silliness on Whyte Ave ...i guess in the glory years we had the odd confrontation with the EDP but those were few a far between and they happened on Jasper Ave ... to be old and have those memories that no one takes away from us is very cool...especially the one picture i have of Sammy lined up for the first time on Oiler ice in his first time back... seeing the crowd doing their standing ovation and none other than Dave`lap-area`Hunter in his three point stance lined up shoulder to shoulder grinning like a cheshire cat at his friend as 72 remained as tight lipped as possible with an obvious big laugh building...it was as if Hunts was saying... we should go like Slats told me to ask you but i know you won`t...it was priceless!

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#40 BArmstrong
August 29 2012, 10:48AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Nice line, but you're probably selling Jones short.

A guy who captains a CCHA school like University of Miami Ohio probably isn't a knucklehead. Unlikely he'd have ended up working the take-out window with ON readers (or become a sportswriter) if hockey hadn't worked out.

Not me - Jones himself.

I recall an interview after the Oil picked him up off waivers. He talked about his good fortune and was grateful to earn a living playing hockey and not working at the Taco Bell - something he'd done during his Junior career.

His humility is endearing.

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#41 OILERSORDEATH
August 29 2012, 10:55AM
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And you gotta love his "WOOOOOOO" that echos through out the visiting arenas after he scores! Love it. Jonesy's a top notch Oiler

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#42 Pat Hughes ruled
August 29 2012, 11:00AM
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1. Ryam Jones is no Pat Hughes. Pat was part of a team that won cups not extra ping pong balls.

2. The fact that Jones is one of the leading goal scorers for the Oilers is sad.

3. On how many contending teams would Jones score this many goals?

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#43 NewAgeSys
August 29 2012, 11:19AM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Semenko went to Whale Tails too, but I think it was a couple of years later. Semenko went on to be traded to the perpetual mess that is / was the Leafs. His disdain for then Leafs coach, John Brophy was pretty evident in Sammy's book.

But back to Lumley. The younger ON readers may be surprised that the Oilers record for consecutive games scoring a goal (12) is not owned by a Gretzky, Messier or Kurri, but by Dave Lumley.* Also important to note that during that run he was playing with Wayne Gretzky, who, if I remember, banked a couple off of Lummer's backside.

But Lumley, IMO, was best known for driving opposition tenders crazy by "bumping" them occasionally and was not above cheap shotting the odd opponent, especially if they got too close to Gretz. Lumley was a beauty.

* Re-reads to find he sounds amazingly like the annoying Cliff Clavin**

** Realizes most ON readers are too young to remember who Cliff Clavin is.***

*** Realizes he is older than dirt. Sigh ...

Excellent description of Lummers special skill,he had a poop-eating grin that drove players absolutely nuts and he did bump guys all the time,never enough for a penalty and usually not during the play,he was a classic crap disturber who was very versatile.I thought Lander was a perfect clone,when he played he had opponents hateing him almost immediatly and he always had that same grin on his face,I think he has a role to play this year for that very reason.

Jones has way more natural offense in his game,and he usually creates it out of nothing on extra efforts like Gagner does,and Hall does.

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#44 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
August 29 2012, 11:31AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

With so much consumer demand, I'm opening a Bronte 5000 outlet. Four gig hard drive, 16 megs of memory, a hot-rodded Commodore 64 processor AND it's no bigger than your typical piece of carry-on luggage. Just $1,799.99. Don't be fooled by cheap imitations. Payment plan available.

I'll sell a million of 'em.

Are you into the pimping of computers as well?

Wanting to have a matte black basecoat, along with some flames painted on the tower of my system. Looking for the gassy looking flames, not the cheap cartoony looking ones.

Any aluminum checkerplate accessories available for said computer towers yet? I'd be all over that. Would go awesome with my tricked out lawnmower.

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#45 Oilers Al
August 29 2012, 11:51AM
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I think Jones role could be expanded a bit, and be the Clutterbuck of the Oilers. He needs to get a bit more tougher, in handing out hurt checks, and be more of a pest. He certainly has the character for pest type player.At the end he can score 15-20 goals. This is what Clutterbuck gets you. Oilers need some nastys on this team. I know that Eager is suppose to be this guy, but he can score, takes dumb penalties, because heès not to bright.

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#46 Walter Sobchak
August 29 2012, 12:25PM
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Semenko went to Whale Tails too, but I think it was a couple of years later. Semenko went on to be traded to the perpetual mess that is / was the Leafs. His disdain for then Leafs coach, John Brophy was pretty evident in Sammy's book.

But back to Lumley. The younger ON readers may be surprised that the Oilers record for consecutive games scoring a goal (12) is not owned by a Gretzky, Messier or Kurri, but by Dave Lumley.* Also important to note that during that run he was playing with Wayne Gretzky, who, if I remember, banked a couple off of Lummer's backside.

But Lumley, IMO, was best known for driving opposition tenders crazy by "bumping" them occasionally and was not above cheap shotting the odd opponent, especially if they got too close to Gretz. Lumley was a beauty.

* Re-reads to find he sounds amazingly like the annoying Cliff Clavin**

** Realizes most ON readers are too young to remember who Cliff Clavin is.***

*** Realizes he is older than dirt. Sigh ...

I'm 38 and remember all those good times, was fortunate to love hockey at an early age.

Cheers was also my favorite show, thanks for trip down memory lane.

True story;

My wife's father had a lounge/bar, after the Oilers won there first cup that's were they had there after party.

The stories about Sammy were the best! A class dude and a very funny man, so my wife's father tells me.

Thought I'd share that.

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#47 Will
August 29 2012, 12:59PM
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Just by amount of money per goal alone, makes Jones one of Tambillini's best signings. For all the players that have come to Edmonton and not just didn't work, but were flat out terrible (Belangier, Cole, Barker, O'sullivan, Kotilik, and arguably visnofsky and Penner), Jones has been exceptional. Go take a swing through cap geek and look at some of the money being handed out to guys with Jone's average point totals over the last two years. It's ludicrous how cheap we have this guy for. If he played left wing instead of right, I bet he would be a top 6 forward on our team.

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#48 Wax Man Riley
August 29 2012, 03:30PM
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I have to (begrudgingly) give Tambo props for the waiver pickup. Good move.

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#49 Cheap Shot Charlie
August 29 2012, 08:48PM
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@Wax Man Riley

Amen

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#50 Dog Train
August 29 2012, 09:17PM
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He is our swiss army knife. He's not an every day top six guy but he can certainly play there in a pinch and he brings some energy to the bottom six.

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