Edmonton Oilers add Mark Fistric via trade
Jonathan Willis
January 14 2013 01:43PM
The Edmonton Oilers actually added two defencemen to their training camp roster today. The big news was the acquisition of hometown defender Mark Fistric from Dallas for a third round pick; the smaller news was the recall of Taylor Fedun from Oklahoma City.
A reasonable Oilers’ blue line depth chart likely looks like this:
- Ladislav Smid/Jeff Petry
- Nick Schultz/Justin Schultz
- Mark Fistric/Ryan Whitney
- Theo Peckham/Corey Potter
- Taylor Fedun/Colten Teubert
The middle two pairings are flexible - I can see the merits of a Nick Schultz/Ryan Whitney second pairing or a Ryan Whitney/Justin Schultz second pairing, too.
Right now, of course, Theo Peckham isn't really in the conversation. According to the Oilers, he "aggravated a hip flexor." The Oilers will know that Fistric is healthy entering camp - their deal with Dallas is dependent on Fistric first passing a medical exam. Meanwhile, Fedun is only around for training camp:
Theo Peckham has a hip flexor, Tambellini confirms. No timeline. On Fedun, Tambellini says he'll stay for camp and then go back down.
— Dan Tencer (@dantencer) January 14, 2013
Fistric, a rough-and-tumble third-pairing defender, is a necessary addition to an Oilers blue line missing both Peckham and Andy Sutton; he's a player in the same mold and given his age and past NHL seasons can arguably be expected to perform better than either of the guys he's replacing. Additionally, he has FISTric right in his name, which is bound to please the comments section here at Oilers Nation.
He's also likely to feature in a few highlight reel hits that will similarly please Edmonton fans:
It is and he does help some.
Not quite the WOW trade.
I'm very happy with this trade, let's hope FISTric plays with the beef that he's been playing with for a while
Great pickup, now we just need Getzlaf and we should be a contender
I like him already.
ERMAHGERD!
Fistric is the Open Ice Hitter that I've been saving myself for!
After watching those videos I have a new contender for my Star this season.
But it's close, and not much was given up.
Makes me feel better for J Schultz - one less big hitter to watch out for in the west. Plus, it will be nice to have a tough defender to maybe put out there with JS whenever a game gets chippy.
Oh sure, im just saying its not HUGE. It may create some more balance which might result in a big boost. Its not the same as adding say... Streit or something (just grabbed a name, not saying they should target him)
Decent player and a decent insurance policy for a 3rd round pick. I wonder how long it will be before Peckham is sent along his way or down to the farm.
Like the others, I am still waiting on the "wow" factor trade and this ain't it...
The thing about the "Wow" trade is that is was said when the idea was an 82 game season and different CBA issues were being discussed. May not be there now. I still hope they do something to keep improving.
Clearly not the wow trade that is (or isn't) to come. Obviously everyone will love this trade as it adds an NHL defensman for giving up, in my opinion, absolutely nothing. 3rd round pick might as wwll be 7th rounder. Good move, but clearly shows how weak we were (still are?) on Defense.
Don't let Wanye see that Tencer tweet...
Please list all the #2 players that fit that definition.
That was Vern Fiddler.
@Old Retired Guy
I like the trade, but Fistric has never been a top-four defenceman in Dallas, and wasn't projected to be one this year either.
#2 Mikey seemed to imply it was Fistic....
Either way it was Priceless.
#36 Jonathan Willis
Agreed. As Joe Niewendyk put it...it was the right time to move some of their younger D men up the depth chart.
I'm just saying that the vast majority of depth charts out there had him as a top 4 pairing last year.
I do not mind the addition,............not sure why Dallas gave up on him?
Good replacement for Sutton.
Some of the more reputable sources like The Hockey News have already taken Firtric out of the Dallas Depth Chart
Most of the other (although less trustworhty) have him in the top 4 last year and this year.
Fox SportsDepth Chart Position First Second Third Fourth Center Benn Roy Fiddler Eakin Left Wing Eriksson Whitney Morrow Nystrom Right Wing Jagr Ryder Vincour Petersen Defensemen Robidas Goligoski Daily or Daley Fistric Larsen Rome
CBS Sports Defensemen Stephane Robidas Alex Goligoski Trevor Daley Mark Fistric Philip Larsen Aaron Rome
CBC Sports
Defense 1 Stephane Robidas Trevor Daley Philip Larsen Defense 2 Alex Goligoski Mark Fistric Aaron Rome
And yes I know that depth charts often times do not reflect reality.
Charts didn't paste well.
So either take my word for it or go to the sites..
Yup now we just need that dirty gritty Finn in the line up to piss people off. I still was hoping that Kiril Tulupov would get a shot. That guy was just a beast
Don't have to worry about dusting off the Norris trophy case, but good addition at 6/7 to replace Sutton. Who know might be a good surprise. Good clean hitter, minimum PK minutes...unlike Peckham.
Now need to something at Center .?
Would have liked to use that on tristan jarry though.
Ryan Kesler,Jordan Staal,Ryan Getzlaf, Eric Staal,Joe Thornton, Patrice Bergeron,
Any would work behind the Nuge.
That was just a quick look .It is not like I'm a Gm and following the other teams that closely.I'm sure there are more younger centres out there that would fit the bill.
Awesome move by the Oilers, just what the back end needed. Hope it works out and hangs around with an extension. Mark can do anything Smid can do with a much more noticeable meanstreak. Gives the Oil some options at the deadline as well. Smid has significant value around the league but no way is he worth 4'ish per to extend him.
Not a wow move, but a much needed addition.
Really impressed with Yakupov this morning. He looks solid on his skates and has a strong desire to improve on areas where he feels he needs work on. It's great to see him be one of the last off the ice as well. Wonder what Hemsky would be like if he had the same drive.
It was only day 1 of camp but there were no red faces this morning and the pace of practice appears to have improved. Hopefully it continues to quicken as the week unfolds.
Counting the days until he lays one of those on Burrows. Please for the love of God NO LUONGO
e5?
If Fistric and the Ghost of Ryan Whitney™ are out agains the Sedins and Burrows, the puck will be in the net.
Pronto.
Well played....sir.
......awaits the volley.
Great trade, Fistric is exactly what the Oilers need. The guy is a tank. Now we need a second line center and the Oilers are gold!
If you say gullible very slowly it sounds like oranges.
Is it just me or is Tambillini kind of acquiring the bulk of everyone's off season wish list? Namely a dynamite puck moving defenseman, a tough to play against banger (who has almost no penalty minutes), and upgrade in goal, and an upgrade on size in the top 9 (Harti)? I really think if we get an upgrade in size at second line centre, there's not much else this team can ask for that isn't readily available.
If I dare to dream, Getzlaf on a reduced two year contract centering Hall and Yak.
The chances of Hopkins, Eberle and Hall being on the ice at the same time as Vandermeer and Barker is about as great as the chance that Freddie will send Fistric and Peckham out against the Sedins and Burrows.
In other words, not likely at all.
You should also bear in mind that Vandermeer and Barker are the Canucks #7 and #8 defensemen so will likely see very little ice time in any event, barring injury.
4-3
2-3
4-3
3-2
5-2
3-0
That's 5W and 1L last season.
The good news is the Oilers only have to play the Canucks 5 times this season.
Oranges.....very slowly.
@DSF
So, by your logic, Barker and Vanderwhatever will be regularly suiting up for the canucks as 2 of the top 6 will be out. Hmmm, maybe Hall will be going through the turnstiles in vancouver.Also, after Luongo is traded, vancouver is a Schneider injury away from lotteryville.
Ok, this is great. I almost did it cause I am tired.
No. No they won't.
They are #8 and #9 on the Canucks depth chart.
Also, if Dubnyk blows up or is injured, the next best option if Yann Danis who has a SV% in the AHL of .905.
That's really bad but Roy is .895 which is really, really bad.
Vancouver's 4th string goalie is Matt Climie....921.
LOL...you tried it, didn't you:)
I'm not sold on Fistric, I don’t particularly like that we gave a 3rd round pick for a rental player.
This one could come back to slap us. This year’s draft is deep.
The Oilers should be looking for a top 2 defensemen so players are not playing out of there element or skill set.
Smid-Petry as one two has trouble written all over it.
Although I love the homerism, DSF does have a point: Bark & Vandermeer will not face the kids this season. Either way the Canucks D will have problems with the kids. Count on it.
Yes. Fistric will serve a roll: being a solid, mean, tough D-man to play against. Last time I checked the Oilers needed that & not a 1-2 that you're talking about.
It would be nice to acquire Chara or Suter or Weber or Keith but the Oilers can't get them so they do the next best thing: plug holes & develop defensemen.
What massive hole 1-2? Would you trade Petry & Schultz for Bieksa?
I wouldn't!
Well thats nice. Id love for Montreal to trade us Subban and Paccioretty for Chris Van De Velde and Omark and for Subban to sign for a 1.5m a year for the next 7 years.
I'd make a great GM right?
I dont think we can acquire talent the way you think we can acquire talent. You dont want to give up Hall, Ebs, RNH, Schultz or Yak but you want someone elses guy of that calibre. Stuff like that is so rare and there are like 27 other teams who want to do the same thing. Be realistic. The only chance we have to get a top two for a fair deal is to develop/draft one.
They do need another D its just not going to happen the way you think its going to happen.
EDIT: PLUS we basically just stole Justin Schultz from a team. How much of these things do you think happen?
You too are delusional if you think Fistric was more important to get than a top two guy. I'm not even going to address the Bieksa comment because that's so nuts.
DISCLAIMER: I'm going to deal in a hypothetical here. I acknowledge this, so please don't jump down my back for it.
What if the long break really benefitted Whitney and he regains pre-injury form. Do we have then a legit #1Dman?
If so, with the new addition I dont hate our defense. We'd have a #1- Whitney Two #3s- Smid and Petry (both who have proven they can play above that) Two #4s- The Schultz' And three bottom pair guys- Fistric, Potter, Peckham
I know its hope against hope, and I dont think management should rely on such a thing, but with a return to form Whitney does our D measure up?
Thoughts?
Who sais anything about Subban or Omark? Whoever else you mentioned.
Pronger for Brewer
+ picks and prospects
= 1 Top pairing defensmen.
The Oilers HAVE options, they have a 1st round pick, they have 2nd round picks, they have good prospects and NHL body's.
I'm not trying to be some all knowing GM here but if you want it bad enough the Oilers have the means to do it.
Unless they are waiting to make that deal with Nashville when the year is up.
Could be a possibility.
@StuckOutHere
Hope, we can only hope Whitney is pain free and can handle 25 min a night.
Having said that, time will tell.