GDB 4.0: LOOKING FOR MOMENTUM

Jason Gregor
October 10 2013 12:12PM

After a ferocious comeback led them to a shootout victory on Monday, the Oilers will be looking to carry that momentum into tonight's clash with the Montreal Canadiens. The Oilers have trailed by three goals heading into the 3rd period 285 times in franchise history, and Monday was only the 5th time they came back to win the game. Those types of comebacks are extremely rare, but the enthusiasm and confidence the Oilers gained from that game has been evident the past few days.

The players were more relaxed. This team is still quite young, especially their offensive leaders, and even though it was only eight periods of hockey, you could tell some of them were frustrated with their lack of production prior to the 3rd period explosion vs. the Devils.

Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle and Nail Yakupov desperately want to lead this team offensively. They feel their primary job is to score goals, and you could see they were getting frustrated not doing it. They have high expectations, and since Monday's victory you could see the relief on two of their faces.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins scored in his first game, so he wasn't feeling any frustration, but he's just as hungry to lead this team as the other three.

As they mature, they will realize that on nights where their offence is struggling they can still help the team by playing solid defensively. It is easy to say, but much harder to accept. Very few young offensive stars can accept that playing great defence is as important as scoring a goal. They were able to dominate at every other level, and most of their domination came offensively.

This isn't a knock or a criticism, just a fact in today's game. The best offensive players become some of the best two-way players if their teams want to win. Sidney Crosby, Jonathan Toews, Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg and Patrice Bergeron are excellent two-way players, and Nugent-Hopkins is constantly talking about wanting to emulate them.

Hall, Eberle and Yakupov are equally aware of it, but it will take time before they don't get frustrated when the offence dries up. Usually their slumps won't last very long, so it won't be a big issue, but even a two-game drought can frustrate young snipers.

Hall's third period goal was a huge relief, and even though Eberle didn't score a goal, he contributed with an assist and he too was more relaxed the past few days.

Yakupov loves scoring goals, and after scoring six goals in his final three games he was hoping to carry that momentum into this season. It hasn't happened, yet, and you can see the frustration in his game. It seems many in Oilersnation want to blame his linemates for his lack of production. That is a lame excuse, and not one that Yakupov is thinking about.

Elite players don't think that way. Yakupov can score regardless of who he plays with, and when I spoke to him yesterday he said he just needs to shoot more and react better to plays. He's played most of the season with Boyd Gordon, who has a point in every game, so the excuse of weak linemates is not only a cop out, but also inaccurate.

Yakupov needs to shoot more, but he also needs to work harder to get into better shooting lanes. It is only three games, and no one should be that concerned, but stop blaming his linemates. Gordon is playing the best offensive hockey of his career, yet he's an anchor for Yakupov? It doesn't jive.

Yakupov will start producing, and when he does it will likely coincide with him simply working harder in every aspect of his game.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Arcobello-Hemsky
Smyth-Gordon-Yakupov
Gazdic-Acton-Brown

Ference-J. Schultz
Belov-Petry
Smid-N.Schultz

Dubnyk

I'm sure many will complain that Yakupov is playing with Smyth, but Eakins isn't afraid to juggle his lines, so I'm sure we will see Yakupov play with other duos as well. Eakins won't hesitate to switch up the lines if they aren't producing, but he stated yesterday he'd much rather keep his lines together, because that means they are playing well.

The Canadiens lost 3-2 in Calgary last night and didn't skate this morning, but Peter Budaj will get the start in goal for the Habs. Josh Gorges was injured and only played one shift in the third period last night, so he'll be a game time decision.

Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Briere
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Prust-Moen-White/Bournival

Gorges??-Subban
Markov-Diaz
Bouillon-Tinordi

Budaj 

QUICK HITS....

  • David Perron is another scorer who wants to be a main contributor. After a solid preseason, five goals, he too was pressing for his first as an Oiler. After he ripped one over Brodeur's right shoulder he admitted he felt a great sense of relief. It is nice to see a bunch of players who truly want to contribute and win. Once this team learns to play better away from the puck, I believe they will be a handful for opposing teams.
     
  • Last year many wrote how Eberle's shooting % was unsustainable, and he would clearly regress. It is interesting how none of those same people wrote similar stories about Yakupov. Yakupov had 17 goals on 81 shots for a sizzling 21 SH%. If Eberle's 18.9% wasn't going to be repeated, shouldn't those people expect Yakupov to regress as well?
     
  • Perception and human nature is a funny thing. It seems some have decided it is Eberle vs. Yakupov, instead of hoping that both have great success. I sense that some would rather see Yakupov succeed than Eberle, mainly because he was the #1 overall pick. After a 76-point season many stats guys wanted to show why Eberle couldn't maintain those numbers, yet after Yakupov's rookie campaign many automatically assumed he'd become a 35-goal man. Why was Eberle's season critiqued due to SH%, but Yakupov's used as a stepping stone to future success?
     
  • Lars Eller is off to a great start for the Habs. He has four goals and six points in three games, while Aex Galchenyuk has five assists. Eakins likes to go power on power so we could see the RNH line vs. Galchenyuk which should be exciting.
     
  • I loved Tomas Hertl's goal. It is extremely difficult to pull that off in a game, and outside of Adam Oates, it seemed most hockey fans appreciated it. I liked Hall's response when I asked him if he feels it was disrespectful. "I think it is more insulting if a team stops trying against you than if they run up the score or score a flashy goal," said Hall. 

THE ORACLE....

GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers can't afford to go on the road with only one victory. They will play their best game of the early season and skate away with a 4-2 victory.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Gordon has had four three-game point streaks in his career, but he's never had points in four consecutive games. He'll set a career high tonight with an assist, and make everyone forget about the dreadful two seasons of the Belanger Triangle.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Midway through the first period Alex Galchenyuk, the 3rd pick in the 2012 draft, will crush Yakupov, 1st pick in 2012, with an open ice hit. Yakupov is slow to get up, but on his next shift he rips a one-timer for his first goal of the season. Instead of a crazy celebration, he just stands still and raises his hands above his head with a big smile. After the game he thanks his former teammate for waking him from his early season slump.

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#1 Dubs-nik
October 10 2013, 12:18PM
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Let wait to see how doobs plays today FIST, before we jump to conclusions and write off that momentum

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#2 outdoorzguy
October 10 2013, 12:20PM
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Dubnyk is in net. In all liklihood we lose!!

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#3 Racki
October 10 2013, 12:29PM
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I wish the thoughts some have of moving Eberle or Yakupov would die.

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#4 Lochenzo
October 10 2013, 12:34PM
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Put Dubnyk in that same category of guys not playing loose. Get that first win under his belt and maybe he'll be better.

I'm glad to see that everyone is feeling the pressure to succeed. Just need to learn how to internalize that go out and play your game.

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#5 lolhockey
October 10 2013, 12:36PM
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I really like Yakupov and I hope he does well tonight. He might not score, but he needs to play better.

If he doesn't, I think he'll be the first of the Fab 5 to be made an example of and take a seat in the press box.

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#6 washed up
October 10 2013, 12:38PM
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Racki wrote:

I wish the thoughts some have of moving Eberle or Yakupov would die.

I don't think anybody wants to trade them, but when the team is desperately lacking in other aspects of the game... Say defense. You have to try and do something.

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#7 A-Mc
October 10 2013, 12:40PM
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I Eff'n love how this team is shaping up. Gordon has been fantastic, Perron was an absolute STEAL from STL (Go MacT!), Ference is solid and does things the right way, Uncle Yesse was kick'n arse until his back went out.etc

I really like the team dynamics. I like how we have some new guys who WANT it badly. No excuses for failure anymore. The vibe seems different and I'm hopeful that it translates into success on the ice.

That being said, My hockey draft includes Eller and Galchenyuk so i hope the Oilers win 11-10; all 10 goals against being scored on the PP or Shorthanded by Eller or Galchenyuk.. k Thx! **

*Ranked 7 of 10 in his Yahoo Fantasy hockey draft* - Desperation mode already!

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#8 A-Mc
October 10 2013, 12:43PM
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Speaking of goalie blunders that might go to your head: did anyone catch that J. Quick goal against a few nights ago?

Loses his stick and then the puck redirects off his blocker and into the net, while he's 20ft from his net.

now THAT can go to a guys head..

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#9 outdoorzguy
October 10 2013, 12:49PM
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@A-Mc

Nope, never saw it, despite the fact it was all over the sports channels. Never saw it at all!!

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#10 1983 and This Year
October 10 2013, 12:49PM
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If Yak had been playing with Perron the last 3 games, he would have had more quality scoring opportunities. You can't tell me his line mates don't matter.

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#11 Craig1981
October 10 2013, 12:52PM
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WIN tonight= Oilers have found their game and are cup competitors. MacT and Eakins are saviors

LOSE- Oilers got lucky for one period and are finishing last, we need to make BOLD trades. Get Dubnyk and KLowe gone by next game

TRUTH-Lets see where we are at in December

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#12 Will
October 10 2013, 12:55PM
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Should be an exciting game tonight. I am happy that Eakins has not broken up the fourth line yet. They have leaked a few scoring chances including an extended segment where they were hemmed in their own zone and couldn't clear. But they haven't been scored on yet. Gazdic and Brown are really laying some hits out there. Good to see we're not making it as easy for other teams.

I really hope they move Yak up onto the top line for just a little while tonight for several reasons:

1. He would match up against Gally.

2. For the love of God it's been 51 games and we still have not seen the all number 1 pick, all at their natural position line. I want to see what three consecutive first overalls can do on a line together. Tonight is the night.

Also, looking at the Candians line up, and looking at ours, there is no way we should not win this.

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#13 Craig1981
October 10 2013, 01:00PM
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lolhockey wrote:

I really like Yakupov and I hope he does well tonight. He might not score, but he needs to play better.

If he doesn't, I think he'll be the first of the Fab 5 to be made an example of and take a seat in the press box.

Yak is trying. You make an example out of someone that isn't putting in effort, not having trouble cause they are trying too hard.

Think benching him would compound the problem, putting MORE pressure on him.

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#14 Rob...
October 10 2013, 01:04PM
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GDP: 5-3 Oilers, Arcobello with his first 'not very pretty' goal. OGDP: Taylor Hall narrowly avoids an unintentional headshot check by Subban in the first. Subban realizes how close he came to a suspension and plays the rest of the game in a subdued manner that the Oilers take advantage of. NSOGDP: Galchenyuk convinces Yak that Alex is in the arena and that she's holding a special sign just for him. Yak is useless for the next 3 shifts as he spends his time searching the crowd. Once he realizes he has been duped he goes ballistic on the ice, hitting anything in red, and ringing two off the post before scoring the Oilers 5th goal.

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#15 A-Mc
October 10 2013, 01:06PM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

Nope, never saw it, despite the fact it was all over the sports channels. Never saw it at all!!

Oh good, so you also wouldn't have any idea how good a goalie Mr. Quick is!

Well let me tell you - he's Mr. Fantastic in terms of keeping pucks out of the net and even HE can make bone headed plays.

Moral of the story: Goalies make mistakes, it happens. Dubnyk should be left alone!

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#16 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
October 10 2013, 01:18PM
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If you guys are looking for a laugh today, check this out - it's making its rounds in Winnipeg this morning:

http://teamof18001.blogspot.ca/2013/10/a-guide-for-wild-fans-when-playing-jets.html

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#17 Johe
October 10 2013, 01:20PM
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I have already forgotten about the Belanger Triangle. Gordon has been superior in every way possible. Against NJ, in the third period alone, he made more contact with opposing players than Belanger did in two years.

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#18 vetinari
October 10 2013, 01:23PM
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I hate my brother-in-law.

He is a die-hard Habs fan.

Beers, bragging rights and family pride are on the line tonight.

The Oil better show up and play some NHL hockey.

GDP: Oilers 5 Habs 4

OGDP: It won't be pretty but the Oilers get the job done after racing out to a 4-1 lead to start the third.

NSOGDP: Yak hits Eller low in the corner during a dump and chase. Eller slashes Yak across the wrists. The gloves come off and they each get into their first fights of their young NHL careers.

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#19 The Soup Fascist
October 10 2013, 01:30PM
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Keg on Legs wrote:

Damn, too late

Relax Kegger, you will have 78 other opportunities for game-day idiocy.

...and hopefully a few playoff games too.

*Waits patiently for diehard "fisters" to defend their obsession.

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#20 Smythyyy
October 10 2013, 01:37PM
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Any word on Joenssu? Will he be out much longer?

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#21 Oiler Al
October 10 2013, 01:45PM
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A lot of conversation about the forwards playing better defensive hockey. No argument there, but, isn't about time the Defense played, better defense.

Petry and Smid, a number one pairing, playing like third line. Time to send SMid to the popcorn box to take a view.

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#22 Bloodsweatandoil
October 10 2013, 01:45PM
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8-1 for the Oilers...Here's also hoping there are more Oiler Jerseys in the crowd than Habs Jerseys!

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#23 Space Dad
October 10 2013, 02:06PM
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Alright Gregor,

Sorry to be so nit-picky, but this has been a frustration ever since the Jordan Eberle shooting % discussion began. The word you are looking for is "sustainable," not "attainable." If a shooting % is "unattainable" it means that no player has or ever will be able to "attain" it - pretty much that the shooting % in question is impossible to achieve. If, on the other hand, a shooting % is "unsustainable" it means that it is unlikely that the player in question will be keep scoring at the rate he is.

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#24 Toe-Dragger
October 10 2013, 02:08PM
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Completely off topic but Joe Thornton just dropped the funniest quote I've seen in years:

Hearing a question to Marleau about Hertl and whether he was showboating, Thornton said: “Shut up, have you ever played the game?” . When the press turned his way, he then added: “I’d have my cock out if I scored four goals. I’d have my cock out, stroking it.” OK, then.

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#25 SnailYakupov
October 10 2013, 02:09PM
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JG: if anything, yak destroys Galchenyuk open ice. #NailedIt

Hopefully his new commercial kickstarts his season.

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#26 Reinman
October 10 2013, 02:11PM
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1983 and This Year wrote:

If Yak had been playing with Perron the last 3 games, he would have had more quality scoring opportunities. You can't tell me his line mates don't matter.

I hate to keep bringing him up, but only because I never feels like he gets a fair shake.

Smyth on that 3rd line is death for Yak. Bring up Omark, and play Omark-Gordon-Yak. You got a 2-way center and a couple of gifted offensive players.

Give Omark 10 games, if he doesn't cut it, then send him back down. He is the best offensive talent we have on LW that is not on the roster... give him a shot. If the oilers did that and he didn't perform, fine, I won't mention his name again. He had had success pretty much everywhere he has played outside of the NHL. I beleive he has the talent, just wish Oilers brass would put some faith in him.

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#27 Geoff
October 10 2013, 02:18PM
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Every time I've noticed Yakupov with Hall it just seems they have great chemistry.

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#28 oilerjed
October 10 2013, 02:30PM
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Im a little bit concerned about the game tonight. It is not showing up on Center Ice and they block out the SNwest feed here on the island. I bettern not be getting screwed by RDS!

Oil score early and often to win 6-2, with a Yak hatty and celebration that even bitchy Hab fans will cheer for.

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#29 rindog
October 10 2013, 02:33PM
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Geoff wrote:

Every time I've noticed Yakupov with Hall it just seems they have great chemistry.

I actually would like to some how see Hemsky with Yak. Hemsky loves to pass and would find Yak a lot...

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#30 washed up
October 10 2013, 02:35PM
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Reinman wrote:

I hate to keep bringing him up, but only because I never feels like he gets a fair shake.

Smyth on that 3rd line is death for Yak. Bring up Omark, and play Omark-Gordon-Yak. You got a 2-way center and a couple of gifted offensive players.

Give Omark 10 games, if he doesn't cut it, then send him back down. He is the best offensive talent we have on LW that is not on the roster... give him a shot. If the oilers did that and he didn't perform, fine, I won't mention his name again. He had had success pretty much everywhere he has played outside of the NHL. I beleive he has the talent, just wish Oilers brass would put some faith in him.

They've given Omark a couple shots. He's not an NHL player

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#31 The Towel Boy
October 10 2013, 02:56PM
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That is a wonderfully crafted NSOGDP. I read it and felt like I was there!!!

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#32 JJ
October 10 2013, 02:59PM
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I'm betting Galchenyuk destroys Yakupov on the scoreboard. Galchenyuk has 5 points in 3 games, Yak his nil points in 3 games.

Honestly, taking Yakupov over Galchenyuk is like taking Jordan Staal over Jonathan Toews or picking Snowpants over Couture. You'll see soon enough, but the Oil dun goofed and missed out on the real talent in that draft, in the form of a much needed center as well.

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#33 wiseguy
October 10 2013, 03:03PM
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Reinman wrote:

I hate to keep bringing him up, but only because I never feels like he gets a fair shake.

Smyth on that 3rd line is death for Yak. Bring up Omark, and play Omark-Gordon-Yak. You got a 2-way center and a couple of gifted offensive players.

Give Omark 10 games, if he doesn't cut it, then send him back down. He is the best offensive talent we have on LW that is not on the roster... give him a shot. If the oilers did that and he didn't perform, fine, I won't mention his name again. He had had success pretty much everywhere he has played outside of the NHL. I beleive he has the talent, just wish Oilers brass would put some faith in him.

Every team in the league, including ones with no skilled forwards and cannot score goals have passed on Omark. If Omark plays on your top 9, you run an AHL or KHL team. We've had 3 coaches on our team who think he cannot help the team. We have 29 other GM's and coaches who don't think he can help theirs. He should not play with Yak or any other Oiler.

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#35 Dog Train
October 10 2013, 03:08PM
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@Toe-Dragger

That's awesome. A little weird but awesome nonetheless. I hate it when media types try to take skill or entertainment out of the game. If you don't want the score getting run up on you then why don't you play better? This isn't peewee, this is the big leagues and you get paid to play the games from start to finish.

Anyways, a going away win is critical right now. The Habs played last night so let's jump all over them. We should be fresh and hopefully the new found confidence of some of our top players shows up in their play tonight. I'll say 5-3 Oilers. GO OILERS GO!!

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#36 JJ
October 10 2013, 03:15PM
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Wellwood is now seeking employment or retiring. Would be a better option than Acton at this point.

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#37 Oilers need Ogie Ogilthorpe!
October 10 2013, 03:17PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

Outstanding! The best part is that it's a minny blog, and all the comments are pro-Jets.

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#38 Wax Man Riley
October 10 2013, 03:23PM
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I can't believe how this organization is purposely ruining Yak's career by playing him on the 3rd line! He needs top 6 minutes....

....well... another young player ruined by the Oilers.

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#39 Wax Man Riley
October 10 2013, 03:26PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

I can't believe how this organization is purposely ruining Yak's career by playing him on the 3rd line! He needs top 6 minutes....

....well... another young player ruined by the Oilers.

I can't believe Eakins is playing Hemsky on the 3rd line! He has been one of, if not, THE best player so far!

Plus, they need to showcase his talents and get him some minutes to get something for him on the trade market.

....well....another veteran player and asset ruined by the Oilers.

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#40 Wax Man Riley
October 10 2013, 03:28PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

I can't believe Eakins is playing Hemsky on the 3rd line! He has been one of, if not, THE best player so far!

Plus, they need to showcase his talents and get him some minutes to get something for him on the trade market.

....well....another veteran player and asset ruined by the Oilers.

I can't believe this organization is playing Eberle on the 3rd line! This is King Jordan of Eberle we are talking about here. He needs top 6 minutes to live up to his $6M contract. Playing him on the 3rd line is going to ruin his confidence.

...well...another player being used improperly by the Oilers.

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#41 Chaz
October 10 2013, 03:35PM
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There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures...and Habs fans.

Shut the Habs Fans up Might Oil! GOil!!

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#42 Chaz
October 10 2013, 03:37PM
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....oh wait, I also hate Calgary Fans.....and Vancouver Fans (REALLY hate Vancouver Fans)....and Toronto Fans......

For some reason I'm okay with Winnipeg and Ottawa fans. Not sure why.....

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#43 Simpsonite
October 10 2013, 03:37PM
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@Rob...

Uhhhhh only 3 shifts? Shoot I'd be a spoonful for at least half a game...

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#44 NJ
October 10 2013, 03:38PM
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@JJ

Not to rain on your parade because I think Galchenyuk is a talent, however I would bet my last dollar that if Yak was playing with 2 guys with the talent AND effort of Gallagher and Eller, you'd see a different result. I would also suggest that Galchenyuk Gordan and Smyth would yield Yak's current results.

Everyone says that Eakins likes duos ... Who is Yakupov's?

All that being said, JG has it right and Nail needs to be awesome in spite of his linemates. When his effort level reaches a level of consistency that is required for the nhl, he'll be the stud (no pun intended) we all want him to become.

Last: in regards to a trade, in one second I'd send Nail or Eberle to Nashville for Seth Jones. Big stay at home defenseman who's NHL ready and is likely to be a #1 d man just about the time we round into a conference leading competitor in say... 2-3 years. Bold? Absolutely. Bring it on.

Just my $.02...

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#45 Wax Man Riley
October 10 2013, 03:40PM
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Chaz wrote:

....oh wait, I also hate Calgary Fans.....and Vancouver Fans (REALLY hate Vancouver Fans)....and Toronto Fans......

For some reason I'm okay with Winnipeg and Ottawa fans. Not sure why.....

Wow, my thoughts EXACTLY!

Ott,'Peg; you're all good in my books.

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#46 Walter Sobchak
October 10 2013, 03:43PM
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Gregor

While I tend to agree with almost everything you said about Yakupov, you can't honestly believe quality of line mates makes no difference.

The difference between Hall or Smyth is massive. The difference between Gagner, RNH or Gordon is also massive.

For Yakupov to shot more, he needs to be in position, but his line mates also need to read and recognize when he is in position, if your not offensive minded then you just not thinking the same game. IMO.

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#47 Oilers need Ogie Ogilthorpe!
October 10 2013, 03:44PM
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@wiseguy

Tough to argue with what you're saying about Linus. Still, I'm gonna try:

1. how many teams took a pass on Marty St Louis before he got a fair chance?

2. Every time I've been able to watch Omark, I've been impressed with his hustle, effort, creativity and puck possession. I don't get to watch the Oil as much as I'd like (stupid real life) so I've missed a lot of the Omark saga, but what I've observed firsthand is in direct opposition to what I hear secondhand.

I'll admit the stats back the 'Not an NHL player' argument, (especially in the preseason) but hey, look at the panic/criticism/excuse making/controversy surrounding Yakupov. Does Yak get the same treatment as Omark? Nope. He's had so much more opportunity than Omark, and nobody (rightfully so) would dream of sending him to OKC when he's slumping. Why doesn't Omark get a chance to find his game over a full season with the team, including PP time. I'm not saying that Omark is the same player as Yak, but Nail is benefitting from more opportunity in a lockout season than Omark has gotten in 5 years.

I think Omark can play, but might never get a legit opportunity. I guess if you want to be an offensive player in Edm, you've got to be drafted first overall or learn your trade at the World Juniors or with another team that has an effective system for helping players get better. The Oil do not develop skill forwards - those guys spin their wheels in the minors and never get better or get a look. Do the players get some of the blame? Of course, but look at the pattern: Rob Schremp, MPS, Omark, Rajala. All had potential, none have achieved it here.

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#48 Simpsonite
October 10 2013, 03:49PM
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My funny Habs here story:

We have seats right by the visitor penalty box one day. Gionta gets a penalty. I start chirping him. "GIONTA!!! GIONTA!!! YOU'RE A CARNEY!!! YOU ARE CIRCUS FOLK!!!!" I can see his face...he can hear me and he's not entirely sure what to think...probably never been called a carney before...but he pretends to ignore me...

"CARRRRNNNNEEEEE!!" CARRRRNNNNEEEEE!!"

Penalty ends.

Then he gets another one. Same chirping ensues. This goes on all game. I think he was in the box 3 times.

Later on after a melee breaks out in the third (I think the Oil were up by a bunch) and there is a parade of folks to the box, Smid and Gionta are standing by the half circle waiting for the refs to come deliver the penalty news. They're chatting and scanning the crowd for probably hot chicks. Our eyes meet. Gionta looks me square in the eyes and I point to him and mouth the words:

"Hey. You're a carney"

And he bursts out laughing.

G'Oil.

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#49 Wax Man Riley
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Oilers need Ogie Ogilthorpe! wrote:

Tough to argue with what you're saying about Linus. Still, I'm gonna try:

1. how many teams took a pass on Marty St Louis before he got a fair chance?

2. Every time I've been able to watch Omark, I've been impressed with his hustle, effort, creativity and puck possession. I don't get to watch the Oil as much as I'd like (stupid real life) so I've missed a lot of the Omark saga, but what I've observed firsthand is in direct opposition to what I hear secondhand.

I'll admit the stats back the 'Not an NHL player' argument, (especially in the preseason) but hey, look at the panic/criticism/excuse making/controversy surrounding Yakupov. Does Yak get the same treatment as Omark? Nope. He's had so much more opportunity than Omark, and nobody (rightfully so) would dream of sending him to OKC when he's slumping. Why doesn't Omark get a chance to find his game over a full season with the team, including PP time. I'm not saying that Omark is the same player as Yak, but Nail is benefitting from more opportunity in a lockout season than Omark has gotten in 5 years.

I think Omark can play, but might never get a legit opportunity. I guess if you want to be an offensive player in Edm, you've got to be drafted first overall or learn your trade at the World Juniors or with another team that has an effective system for helping players get better. The Oil do not develop skill forwards - those guys spin their wheels in the minors and never get better or get a look. Do the players get some of the blame? Of course, but look at the pattern: Rob Schremp, MPS, Omark, Rajala. All had potential, none have achieved it here.

Well, the thing is that Omark has almost a league minimum contract at $600,000. He was placed on waivers so EVERY team in the league could have had his tiny little contract by giving up no assets.

Every team in the league passed on him. Maybe they know something?

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#50 Bi-Curious Gord
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Chaz wrote:

....oh wait, I also hate Calgary Fans.....and Vancouver Fans (REALLY hate Vancouver Fans)....and Toronto Fans......

For some reason I'm okay with Winnipeg and Ottawa fans. Not sure why.....

You're ok with them because they're irrelevant

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