This is the perfect time to panic!

Jonathan Willis
October 12 2013 10:59PM

Devan Dubnyk has played four games for the Oilers this season. He has four losses and a 0.829 save percentage; he's probably directly cost Edmonton two wins and three points with his poor play.

What can the Oilers do about it?

Option 1: Stay The Course

The argument: Devan Dubnyk has been successful in Edmonton's net for three years now. Throwing that away over a lousy four-game stretch would be crazy. Goalies have bad runs sometimes. It's hard, but the best bet is to just ride this out rather than wasting assets bringing in a guy who isn't likely to be any better than Dubnyk is long-term.

Option 2: Jason LaBarbera

The argument: Sure, Jason LaBarbera didn't look very good in his first game for Edmonton. But he's been a darn good backup for five years now. Putting him in net gives Dubnyk a break, gives LaBarbera a chance to show whether he can handle the job, and costs nothing in terms of assets. The Oilers' play seems to have improved quite a bit; if LaBarbera can be average (and history suggests he can) that should be good enough.

Option 3: Ilya Bryzgalov

The argument: Sure, he didn't work out in Philadelphia, but this is a guy who was a Vezina candidate not that long ago. Signing in the ECHL shows he wants a North American job, and he should have plenty of motivation to prove he can still handle NHL minutes. If he can be anywhere near where he was a few years back, the Oilers will be smiling.

Option 4: The Big Trade

The argument: Edmonton's goaltending sin't good enough. Devan Dubnyk lets in soft goals and can't handle pressure; LaBarbera is a career backup. The team needs wins now, which means bringing in a new starter. Call him James Reimer, or Viktor Fasth or Ryan Miller, or whoever. The cost will be dear - nobody is giving these guys away and Edmonton's in a terrible position - but this team needs wins now and that means making a trade right now.

My Take

 

The decision was made in the summer. Maybe it was the wrong decision, but a) four games isn't enough evidence to overturn it and b) the cost of trying to overturn it is going to be very, very high. I'd be tempted to go with Jason LaBarbera against Washington, to give Dubnyk a game off and see what the backup can do; if LaBarbera plays well he stays in until he doesn't and if he plays poorly Dubnyk gets another shot. The history of both these players says they're a good enough tandem to provide NHL-average goaltending; clearly the Oilers felt at least that was possible when they made the choice this summer and there hasn't been enough evidence to overturn that decision, yet.

That's a hard decision to make; given the pressures on the team this season it's extremely difficult to see the goaltending almost single-handedly losing games. But the alternatives are either unlikely to be a good fit (Bryzgalov) or likely to be cost-prohibitive if there's any other way out. 

But it wouldn't hurt to get a feel for the goaltending market, either.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 Sidney Frosby
October 13 2013, 12:26AM
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Butters wrote:

Dubnyk will NOT be an 0.829 goaltender for the remainder of the year. The Oilers have lost to one divisional opponent. With average goaltending they would have curb stomped the Leafs. Not time to panic yet.

He won't be a 0.829 goaltender.... Even if he gets to 0.915... He started horribly and as last year....will be letting in the soft goal in the third period every other night....

Imagine we had a goalie like Cujo or Kipper,... A goalie who makes saves... Especially when needed.

Anyone got Jeff deluariies number?

By the time " the boys on the bus" figure this one out ( game 20ish I am guessing) we'll be 6-11-3 with nearly 100 goals against.

I am betting Washington ( and Grabovski for that matter) get at least 4 against us ,.. Meaning we'll have to score 5 to win

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#52 TDSM31
October 13 2013, 12:27AM
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Jmang wrote:

I personally would give dub another shot. If that doesnt work. Send labarbra down (assuming he doesnt get claimed) give bachman a few starts abd a chance to prove himself again. If its horrendous sign bryz to a 1 year contract worth 1 mill to compete with dub. Send bachman back down. Run with those 2. If neither get it done. Then its big trade time.

I personally wish we picked up khudobin. Whats he make? 1 mill? but No mac t was too busy looking for face punchers. When gange is back if he doesnt play wing. I could see 4 goo lines. A third and forth line consisting or gordon arcobello yak smyth joenssu and gazdic.

If Dubnyk sucks again next game send LaBarbera down??? Holy sh*t I AM in the Twilight Zone.

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#53 Muji
October 13 2013, 12:29AM
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I would be interested in knowing what SV% Dubnyk needs for the remainder of the season to finish the season at league average. "It's only 4 games", but he's dug himself quite a hole...

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#54 kawi460
October 13 2013, 12:32AM
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For Dubnyk's sake I hope he shuts the door. I always though the hardest job was to be a goalie playing poor in a hockey market.

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#55 #ThereGoesTheOilers
October 13 2013, 12:33AM
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Relax, Dubnyk is having a stretch so I say let Labarbera have a go.

Dub has been good in the past. Even great goaltenders have moments that are cringe-worthy. Ya'll seen how Lundqvist and Biron can't stop a beachball lately?

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#56 **
October 13 2013, 12:35AM
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I disagree that Dubnky has been successful here the past three years. If I am not mistaken he has never been above .500 in wins/losses.

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#57 Sloppy Joe
October 13 2013, 12:36AM
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I feel for you JW. This thread went 'full retard' pretty quickly.

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#58 TDSM31
October 13 2013, 12:38AM
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@Serious Gord

"You are talking out of both sides of your mouth logically. You can't cite hemskys performance in five games and than rebut DSF by saying that his data - the same five games you are working with - is too small a sample size."

Concur 100%. Willis does this at a greater rate than Dubnyk lets in softies.

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#59 The Oilers Shot Clock
October 13 2013, 12:39AM
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Send him to OKC. Let him clear waivers. Tell him he can rediscover his game at the expense of their record. If he doesnt clear, no problem, we use that money on something new and shiny.

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#60 @Oilanderp
October 13 2013, 12:43AM
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Dubnyk will be fine. His history shows this. Just play both goalies in tandem until one of them grabs the reigns.

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#61 Racki
October 13 2013, 01:17AM
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@Jonathan Willis

The history of both these players says they're a good enough tandem to provide NHL-average goaltending; clearly the Oilers felt at least that was possible when they made the choice this summer and there hasn't been enough evidence to overturn that decision, yet.

Let's call it what it is.. MacT stated before the season started that he wasn't comfortable with the net situation. He tried for a couple of guys (most notably Schneider and Bishop) and couldn't acquire them. Labarbera is the consolation prize for not being able to land anyone else. I think Dubnyk would have been here regardless, but he would have had someone much better pushing him for starts. Labarbera got the lone win this year, but I wouldn't say he's been desirable to watch either yet.

I would try and make Bryzgalov or another UFA goalie (there is still Theodore and Hedberg, but I am not so sure either would help much, granted) this team's Ray Emery. Sign him cheap on a 1 year deal and see if he can stop the bleeding while Dubnyk regains his form.

That said, I'd say it should be plan C still... now that my panic level has dropped a bit, cooler heads, etc... I'd say let's see how Labarbera handles the Caps. If the Oilers pull off a win or even a point against them, then you let it ride another game.. take it one game at a time for now.

I don't want to let this decision go on too long though because this type of tactic totally reeks of Tambellini: sit and wait for the problem to fix itself until next thing you're know you're in December looking at 29 teams above you in the standings. No thanks.

The Oilers will be at 50 contracts if they scoop up a goalie like Bryzy, unfortunately, but what are you hanging on to that extra slot for if you aren't using it to plug a major hole with a cheap and potentially usable player?

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#62 chuckcouples
October 13 2013, 01:23AM
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Who's errors have cost the Oilers more goals against this season, Devan Dubnyk or Taylor Hall? Watch the 5th Leafs goal again...who gives the puck away to set up the shot by Lupul? Hall tries a between the legs, no look pass to the middle of the ice with a 1 goal lead in the last 40 seconds of a hockey game.

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#63 Mr. Calm
October 13 2013, 01:44AM
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Where to begin... Okay, first off, Dubnyk will be fine. Tonight he let in six goals, but he actually played alright. Being hung out to dry alot. Which brings me to what I am seeing and why i am not worried... yet. The Oilers new defensive strategy was starting to be visible in tonights game, and its an interesting twist. It is designed to help the oilers recover the puck in their own end, preferably along the boards by out manning the other team along the boards, and break out with speed. So far this young season it works, sort of. It is drawing the opposing team in to our zone as a potential offensive opportunity. the key is that as they pull in, if the oilers win the puck there is little chance of them facing a blueline wall going the other way. a fight for the puck along the boards turns into two oilers, one opponent, then, three oilers, two opponents. as one opponent is bound to be parked near the net, it leaves only 2 opponents up ice. should the third oiler in win the battle, it leaves him and a second oiler on a 2 on 2 up the ice. easy zone access, plus the possibility of a trailer for a chance on goal. Downside is that until the oil become very proficient at the defensive system, they are going to occasionally leave an opponent wide open in front of their own net, and even when they do, it is going to turn the game into river hockey. I suspect we are going to see any goalie we have produce a horrendous GAA this season, but that we still make the playoffs. River hockey can go either way, but My bet is on the oilers most nights in that type of scenario. Dubnyk does need to be better, particularly in SV%, but i think we may need to stop watching the GAA once we start seeing the system work. Just my thoughts. Looks like 80's hockey might have been resurrected.

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#64 beloch
October 13 2013, 01:49AM
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I'm sure some Oilers fans will recall (probably with glee) Kiprusoff's implosion last season. Kipper went from a 0.921 sv% one season to... 0.882. Maybe he just didn't feel like playing in his last season. Maybe he was playing injured (before actually admitting it and going on IR). Maybe all that vodka finally caught up with him. Who knows? Bottom line, even great goalies occasionally make like a lemming.

Is Dubnyk playing injured? Does he have problems at home? Did somebody steel his lucky rabbit's foot? His binky? Who knows. Dubnyk was very good last season. Goalies, even great ones, are rarely consistent from season to season. Some regression was probable, but not this much. He will eventually sort himself out. However, if a goalie is repeatedly falling on his face, that's why you have a competent backup goalie ready to take a few games (unless you're the Flames).

Hello Barbie, let's go party! Throw LaBarbera in and give him a few games to sink or swim. If he swims, great. If he sinks and it's clear Dubnyk is still a steaming mess, you either start calling up rookies from the farm or acquire anybody you can. If you're the Flames, you ignore any hot AHL goalies in your system and try to find the most thoroughly mediocre guy you can, and you stick to him like glue, even the following season after you've picked up a couple guys your scouts thought might be an upgrade. Regardless, the praying should probably commence now.

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#65 Mr. Calm
October 13 2013, 02:00AM
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I might also add, that thiss eastern conference bias for the start of the season couldn't possibly have been a better situation for the oil. It allows them a lot of games to sort out their problems, while not giving the points to conference and divisional opponents.

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#66 Mr. Calm
October 13 2013, 02:30AM
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Most of all I hope not to turn into Vancouver fans. Some of the best goaltenders in the league and they run them out of town.

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#67 Big Cap
October 13 2013, 02:36AM
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My new favorite buzz word: SAMPLE SIZE

"It’s to early to judge Dubnyk; as his SAMPLE SIZE has only been 4 games this year"

My question is, when can we make a judgment? We have invested ALOT of time and energy with this guy. There is NO way we need to wait until mid season or beyond to make a conclusion as we sit through another disastrous season.

The fact is, he's been average at best his entire Oiler career. We desperately need an upgrade. Dunnyk will NEVER lead us to the promise land.

WE MUST MOVE ON!!!!!!

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#68 Mr. Calm
October 13 2013, 02:46AM
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Oiler fans are a funny bunch. Always comparing current players to players from the golden years, and longing to see that offensive flair, but unwilling to accept that offensive flair has a price. This team is offensive. it is built to attack. I think Dubnyk needs to have a little chat with Fuhr, at least fuhr can tell him to relax and just stop the puck as often as he can and expect to be hung out to dry alot. Dubnyk just needs to learn to make the one big save each game. Thats all bernier did tonight. And he let in 5.

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#69 exsanguinator
October 13 2013, 02:47AM
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Big Cap wrote:

My new favorite buzz word: SAMPLE SIZE

"It’s to early to judge Dubnyk; as his SAMPLE SIZE has only been 4 games this year"

My question is, when can we make a judgment? We have invested ALOT of time and energy with this guy. There is NO way we need to wait until mid season or beyond to make a conclusion as we sit through another disastrous season.

The fact is, he's been average at best his entire Oiler career. We desperately need an upgrade. Dunnyk will NEVER lead us to the promise land.

WE MUST MOVE ON!!!!!!

Tell that to M.A. Fluery's cup ring. This team needs to start playing like a team. Dubnyk can be good enough if he has a team in front of him.

Also, maybe 15 games or so is the time we can start judging him.

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#70 Garon
October 13 2013, 02:49AM
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I don't see how Dubnyk deserves the benefit of the doubt any longer. That's two games he's cost us.

Two games.

Directly cost us.

His fault.

We would have won without him.

Don't know how more clear I can be on this. These aren't "poor performances". They're disasters, to the point where you've got to wonder where the hell his head is at.

It's inexcusable from an NHL goalie being paid $$$ millions of dollars. A piss poor effort. I wouldn't blame MacT if he sent him up to the press box for a month and called up Richard Bachman. Stupid move? Maybe, but no more stupid than allowing DD to continue self destructing and losing us games. AHL-calibre or not, Bachman literally could not be any worse at this point.

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#71 Mr. Calm
October 13 2013, 02:59AM
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Garon wrote:

I don't see how Dubnyk deserves the benefit of the doubt any longer. That's two games he's cost us.

Two games.

Directly cost us.

His fault.

We would have won without him.

Don't know how more clear I can be on this. These aren't "poor performances". They're disasters, to the point where you've got to wonder where the hell his head is at.

It's inexcusable from an NHL goalie being paid $$$ millions of dollars. A piss poor effort. I wouldn't blame MacT if he sent him up to the press box for a month and called up Richard Bachman. Stupid move? Maybe, but no more stupid than allowing DD to continue self destructing and losing us games. AHL-calibre or not, Bachman literally could not be any worse at this point.

TWO GAMES!!! Holy Crap! 2 Games Everybody! Ignore the fact that he had no defense in either game! They were both completely and unequivically his fault!

Get a reality check. He is an average goalie playing poorly. Behind a defence that is playing... or at least doing something... somewhere on the ice i think...

I agree with a few posts up. 15 games. by then other teams know their weaknesses as well and you can make a trade that actually makes sense, or Devon shows up and proves you wrong.

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#72 Big Cap
October 13 2013, 03:06AM
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Mr. Calm wrote:

TWO GAMES!!! Holy Crap! 2 Games Everybody! Ignore the fact that he had no defense in either game! They were both completely and unequivically his fault!

Get a reality check. He is an average goalie playing poorly. Behind a defence that is playing... or at least doing something... somewhere on the ice i think...

I agree with a few posts up. 15 games. by then other teams know their weaknesses as well and you can make a trade that actually makes sense, or Devon shows up and proves you wrong.

15 games from now?? At this pace of our Goaltending status, we wont have to worry about the Oilers even contending for a playoff spot as we will be history!

The Oilers defence has been average in front of Dubnyk this season, but the Offence and goals for have been way above average.

How many years does this DD get to prove himself? 4 games into it this year, is just another SAMPLE SIZE of his entire Oiler career.

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#73 The Last Big Bear
October 13 2013, 03:08AM
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I'm not sure if its been brought up yet, but I dont think option 3 is really an option.

After all, he may be tired to play here. Here is in the November month like minus thirty two degrees. And is snow eight months of year.

I mean, he is good guy, and all. But this is professional sports.

Why you haff to be mad?

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#74 Garon
October 13 2013, 03:17AM
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"TWO GAMES!!! Holy Crap! 2 Games Everybody! Ignore the fact that he had no defense in either game!"

Actually, I'm being generous. Because he was bad to mediocre the other games as well. But I can't honestly claim that he lost them for us.

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#75 N4R
October 13 2013, 03:28AM
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Edmonton Oilers vs Toronto Maple Leafs (12.10.2013) http://prognoz-na-sport.info/news/skachat_match_edmonton_oilers_vs_toronto_maple_leafs_nhl_2013_2014_regular_season_12_10_2013/2013-10-13-6741

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#76 Coco crisp
October 13 2013, 04:05AM
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@DSF

You are the most annoying reader on this website. You suck.

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#77 Coco crisp
October 13 2013, 04:09AM
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@Garon

Relax.

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#78 flyricky
October 13 2013, 04:29AM
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@Sidney Frosby

How do you start Dubnyk after the Labarbera victory not once but twice? Sick of hearing about Dubnyks miracle year last year where the team missed the playoffs in a 48 game schedule. Dubnyk sucks PERIOD. Someone in the AHL must be better than this staff. Package him to Buffalo with our first next year and a prospect for Myers and Miller.

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#79 God
October 13 2013, 04:32AM
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I'm so sick of losing. I don't care if there's an individual player to blame. Upper management has little accountability. After 7 years of mediocrity, the team is still losing.

It's like the Oil want us to cheer for another team. I've seen marriages end for less.

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#80 God
October 13 2013, 04:38AM
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Everyone will find their scapegoat, today it's DD. I simply want wins. For now, I blame the entire organization, top to bottom.

This Cool-Aid sucks, I'm switching to whisky.

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#81 The Oilers Shot Clock
October 13 2013, 04:41AM
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@flyricky

It would be awesome if the cap didnt exist if we simply ignored it huh?

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#82 spliff
October 13 2013, 05:48AM
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Every game, more excuses from players, coaches and management. I wonder what the "plan" will be if they don't make the playoffs this year?

Whats the plan MacT? Kevin? Watching a horrible loser of a team for eight years in a row, I want to know, what the plan is?

Can someone from the Oilers office refund me 150$ that I wasted on NHL gamecenter. Every year I think "this year will be different" but its always the same. I'm getting very very tired of this constant losing. Why do I still give a sh*t?

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#83 Kyle
October 13 2013, 06:12AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's going to take a dozen stinkers in order for MacT to pick up the phone. A commitment to Dubey was made at the start of the season and it isn't possible to undo it at this point. Unless there is a GM out there who really wants Hemsky, we aren't about to make a deal for a goalie. There's a much better chance we pick up a strong defensive blue liner who can save us one goal per game. We have lots of firepower, but we need our goals against to be under four in order to win games. It's pointless calling for Dubnyk's head after each loss. It isn't happening for at least another month.

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#84 Kyle
October 13 2013, 06:16AM
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@flyricky

That wouldn't be a horrible idea if either of those players were meeting expectations. Myers needs a change of scenery. No doubt about it.

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#85 oilers2k10
October 13 2013, 06:54AM
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The more I watch him play the more I'm starting to think that Mark Arcobello is Sam Gagner. They are the same player. Wonder what kind of contract extention he gets.

Also where does Yakupov fit into the lineup now, what about once Gags returns? You cant send Arcobello down with the way he's playing, and Yakupov can't be on the 3rd or 4th lines and be expected to find his game there. He needs more minutes, coach needs to realize that he's very very young, be patient..allow the kid to make mistakes and learn. He's 19 yrs old, high risk high reward with young guys like that.

I suggest Eakins should put good two way players with Yakupov..put Yak on a line with Hall and RNH.

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#86 BleedingOil
October 13 2013, 06:55AM
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Goal 1) How can one of the tallest goalies in the league leave a hole above his shoulder short side? Goal 2) How did the leaf attacker skate by our new captain 5 feet in front of the net and not end up on his feet Goal 3) Why are both defenders chasing puck in corner leaving the trailing winger wide open and where was our back checking from our RW on the play? When Lupul let go, all 5 of our players were on the wrong side of the play. All of them. Goal 4) 4 of our 5 players could have reached out and touched each other and none were deeper than the hash marks. When Kessel dumped the puck behind our net, why did Ference glide through the circle and not skate hard for the net, and why was JVR all alone in Gretzkys office? DD totally lost sight of puck on this one as well. The guy is 10 feet tall and can touch both posts while in butterfly so he should not be moving side to side the way he does. Goal 5) Belov and Ference are both in the shooting lane and provide a nice screen for the shooter. Give DD clear sight or block the shot. Get out of the way if you cant get in the way. Goal 6) OT Goal. Should have been a penalty call. 3 on 1. We were in way to deep on this one for not having clear possession of the puck. Sad to see that our "Stud" dman was the deepest. You can actually see him turn and break in on the right side while Nuge is being raped. This causes him to be way too deep by the time Nuge is recovering. On his back check, he is blue line to blue line away from the play. By the time he gets to his own blue line, he stops skating. The sad part is that by the time Raymond gets the rebound, Schultz is within stick reach of the play. 2 or 3 more hard strides and he may have made up for the mistake he made pinching in too deep seconds earlier.

I know its easy to pick out mistakes on the ice from my googlebox and comfy couch, but you can clearly see the 2 holes of Big Tough Defender and Game Changing Goalies are slapping us in tha face every night. Play your position Dmen and that will solve most inadequacy in goal. If your forwards are scoring 5 goals in a game, they are doing their job. Time for the defensive part of our game to come up to par. I am not slamming just our Dcorps, but all 5 players on ice play more positionally sound without the puck. It just needs to happen from our back end out. Dubey, stand up and make yourself BIG! Dont go down on your knees as soon as the puck comes in our zone. You are way to big of a man to play a flop and drop game like TT, Miller or Brodeur....it just wont work. Schultz, if you wanna be a winger, then go buy Eakins a low fat latte, fruit cup and sit down and have a chat. Ference, start showing an attitude and nobody gets past the hash marks and stays on two feet. Top 6, keep doing what you are doing, whatever line combinations Eakins has you on. Bottom 6, HIT MORE...our end, open ice, deep in other end, HIT HIT HIT. Get that puck back.

I see changes coming fast. MacT and Eakins have too much pride and glory to swallow these stupid losses. Someone is going soon. Why was Yak sitting last night? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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#87 Allan O
October 13 2013, 07:09AM
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@Sidney Frosby

Oilers should trade a prospect or two for Martin Jones who plays for Manchester Monarchs in the AHL. A tall athletic goalie with tremendous upside. LA is set in goal with Quick and Jones might be had for the right price. Best goalie in the AHL.

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#88 Harry
October 13 2013, 07:10AM
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Staying the course is the worat option. Give Labarbera the next 4 starts if he sucks. Sign Bryzgalov for one year. I we get to mid season and none of those three have done the job. Make the trade.

How in your infinite wisdom JW can you possibly think Hiller, or Miller are not upgrades over Dubnyk?

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#89 madjam
October 13 2013, 07:11AM
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Dubbie needs/should go for conditioning stint to OKC (if that is possible) to hone his game , while Bachman comes up , as he is playing well in OKC . Lababarra starts in the interim . We have plenty of other equally pressing problems that need cure that otherwise might not be seen or dealt with if we had stellar goaltending to start this year .

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#90 Greg the Hammer Valentine
October 13 2013, 07:24AM
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Maybe it!s not too early for an investment in a long term project. A good prospect stuck in the minors because of depth, like Philip Grubauer in Washington could be a pretty good acquisition. Because right now, not only our current goaltending is bad but we have nothing coming down the pipeline.

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#91 michael
October 13 2013, 07:25AM
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If DD cannot find his game well be so hooped it won't even be funny.What team would take him? 3.75 million thank you very much Tambo. You can't bury his contract.

We still have one buyout but I don't think you can use that during the year. A regular buyout? I don't know if that is applicable either.

Signing IB would be tantamount to disaster. Talk about a circus if that comes about.

Positives. Arcobello. What Jason Gregor. He is small and can't play. Not enough foot speed. What? 3 assists and had he scored we might be talking about something other than the goaltending.

Ryan Smyth. 2 goals and looked fresh. This is how we do it. Sit and play. Sit and play. He looked like he had energy. The line produced 3 goals.

Boyd Gordon.Has been more than advertised. Looks like he has found his niche here in Edmonton.

Negatives

Gagner. Not in the lineup. His absence is felt.

Yakupov. Same as above.

Justin Shultz. hello? the season has started. Shoot the puck.

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#92 Spydyr
October 13 2013, 07:44AM
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Gret99zky wrote:

New wife, check.

New child, check.

New GM has no faith in him, check.

DD has a lot on his plate.

Getting paid 4 million, check

Letting your teammates down almost every game this year, check

Playing like a professional and not letting your outside life game bother you, fail.

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#93 madjam
October 13 2013, 07:49AM
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Why did they rush to send Nurse back so early ? If he were here I bet we would be at least 3-2 . Should have given him 9 game stint at least . I guess only the Flames are that smart with Monohan !

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#94 madjam
October 13 2013, 07:54AM
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I'm feeling like I am watching a comedy version of Jackass the Movie Hockey Style for last 7years . Enough of this sequel/serial crap .

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#95 Stack Pad Save
October 13 2013, 08:00AM
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Dubnyk's biggest problem is that he is not comfortable in net. His equipment all changed in size and the biggest change was his paddle length. The paddle length has a direct effect on a goalies stance. From my own personal experience as a kid when I was a short 12 year old and my blocker hand was out of a position as my stick was too big for me. I constantly cheated to the blocker side and got continually burnt because I was uncomfortable in my own equipment. When I grew and started to actually fit my equipment I felt better, and was a slightly less sivvy goalie. Dubnyk has the same problem with his equipment right now and doesn't have the luxury of being 12 years old; he is a pro and he needs to fix it ASAP or he will be gone. We all saw the looks Oilers management were giving him last night from the press box.

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#96 book¡e
October 13 2013, 08:11AM
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@**

Neither has Hall

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#97 Dangilitis
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I don't know if Khudobin was interested, but I can't even fathom why he was bought for nothing by Carolina after the Oilers had signed Labarbera. Maybe MacT didn't think he had a legitimate shot at him, but come on! No offence to Carolina but it is not exactly the #1 destination of NHL players, and they got him for 200,000 less than LaBarbera. I would have signed Anton for 1.5 million, he had way more potential and I do believe that he will make the goaltending issue more complicated in Carolina. Which is what should have happened in Edmonton, rather than bringing in Dubnyk's tall friend.

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#98 Spydyr
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

Dubnyk's biggest problem is that he is not comfortable in net. His equipment all changed in size and the biggest change was his paddle length. The paddle length has a direct effect on a goalies stance. From my own personal experience as a kid when I was a short 12 year old and my blocker hand was out of a position as my stick was too big for me. I constantly cheated to the blocker side and got continually burnt because I was uncomfortable in my own equipment. When I grew and started to actually fit my equipment I felt better, and was a slightly less sivvy goalie. Dubnyk has the same problem with his equipment right now and doesn't have the luxury of being 12 years old; he is a pro and he needs to fix it ASAP or he will be gone. We all saw the looks Oilers management were giving him last night from the press box.

Good theory , except the changes effected every goalie in the NHL not just the big easy.

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Dubbie is certainly part of the problem but there were so many individual blunders in the d zone last night, it was scary. Hope its just part of learning the new system.

Is JS the new Sandis Ozolinsh? Holy crap, that was a horrid play on the OT goal. Dangerous on both sides of the ice.

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#100 Taylor Gang
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Small sample sizes for Dubnyk? How many 4 goal games do people need to see before they realize that Dubnyk is not the starting goalie we've been looking for? Dubnyk has proven over and over that he is just mentally unstable in net, like how he let in a quick goal right after another one last year. At least then he put up decent numbers. The Oilers outplayed the Leafs so hard, and yet Dubnyk atill managed to find a way to make this team lose. This is their year, and Dubnyk just isn't up to the challenge.

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