This is the perfect time to panic!

Jonathan Willis
October 12 2013 10:59PM

Devan Dubnyk has played four games for the Oilers this season. He has four losses and a 0.829 save percentage; he's probably directly cost Edmonton two wins and three points with his poor play.

What can the Oilers do about it?

Option 1: Stay The Course

The argument: Devan Dubnyk has been successful in Edmonton's net for three years now. Throwing that away over a lousy four-game stretch would be crazy. Goalies have bad runs sometimes. It's hard, but the best bet is to just ride this out rather than wasting assets bringing in a guy who isn't likely to be any better than Dubnyk is long-term.

Option 2: Jason LaBarbera

The argument: Sure, Jason LaBarbera didn't look very good in his first game for Edmonton. But he's been a darn good backup for five years now. Putting him in net gives Dubnyk a break, gives LaBarbera a chance to show whether he can handle the job, and costs nothing in terms of assets. The Oilers' play seems to have improved quite a bit; if LaBarbera can be average (and history suggests he can) that should be good enough.

Option 3: Ilya Bryzgalov

The argument: Sure, he didn't work out in Philadelphia, but this is a guy who was a Vezina candidate not that long ago. Signing in the ECHL shows he wants a North American job, and he should have plenty of motivation to prove he can still handle NHL minutes. If he can be anywhere near where he was a few years back, the Oilers will be smiling.

Option 4: The Big Trade

The argument: Edmonton's goaltending sin't good enough. Devan Dubnyk lets in soft goals and can't handle pressure; LaBarbera is a career backup. The team needs wins now, which means bringing in a new starter. Call him James Reimer, or Viktor Fasth or Ryan Miller, or whoever. The cost will be dear - nobody is giving these guys away and Edmonton's in a terrible position - but this team needs wins now and that means making a trade right now.

My Take

 

The decision was made in the summer. Maybe it was the wrong decision, but a) four games isn't enough evidence to overturn it and b) the cost of trying to overturn it is going to be very, very high. I'd be tempted to go with Jason LaBarbera against Washington, to give Dubnyk a game off and see what the backup can do; if LaBarbera plays well he stays in until he doesn't and if he plays poorly Dubnyk gets another shot. The history of both these players says they're a good enough tandem to provide NHL-average goaltending; clearly the Oilers felt at least that was possible when they made the choice this summer and there hasn't been enough evidence to overturn that decision, yet.

That's a hard decision to make; given the pressures on the team this season it's extremely difficult to see the goaltending almost single-handedly losing games. But the alternatives are either unlikely to be a good fit (Bryzgalov) or likely to be cost-prohibitive if there's any other way out. 

But it wouldn't hurt to get a feel for the goaltending market, either.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 Zamboni Driver
October 12 2013, 11:50PM
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@Jonathan Willis

Touche.

Though to be fair. Sad as it is for most fanboys, the braintrust is not, in fact, playing anymore.

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#102 Alsker
October 13 2013, 12:01AM
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Jmang wrote:

We cant afford to risk our first. The way this is going that clould be a nathan makinnon

Really, that type of logic is what causes infabuilds. Eventually you must make the move that gets you over the hump, now is that time!!!!! Get the goalie we need and the pick wont be top 10 let alone top 5.

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#103 kawi460
October 13 2013, 12:32AM
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For Dubnyk's sake I hope he shuts the door. I always though the hardest job was to be a goalie playing poor in a hockey market.

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#104 exsanguinator
October 13 2013, 02:47AM
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Big Cap wrote:

My new favorite buzz word: SAMPLE SIZE

"It’s to early to judge Dubnyk; as his SAMPLE SIZE has only been 4 games this year"

My question is, when can we make a judgment? We have invested ALOT of time and energy with this guy. There is NO way we need to wait until mid season or beyond to make a conclusion as we sit through another disastrous season.

The fact is, he's been average at best his entire Oiler career. We desperately need an upgrade. Dunnyk will NEVER lead us to the promise land.

WE MUST MOVE ON!!!!!!

Tell that to M.A. Fluery's cup ring. This team needs to start playing like a team. Dubnyk can be good enough if he has a team in front of him.

Also, maybe 15 games or so is the time we can start judging him.

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#105 flyricky
October 13 2013, 04:29AM
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@Sidney Frosby

How do you start Dubnyk after the Labarbera victory not once but twice? Sick of hearing about Dubnyks miracle year last year where the team missed the playoffs in a 48 game schedule. Dubnyk sucks PERIOD. Someone in the AHL must be better than this staff. Package him to Buffalo with our first next year and a prospect for Myers and Miller.

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#106 Harry
October 13 2013, 07:10AM
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Staying the course is the worat option. Give Labarbera the next 4 starts if he sucks. Sign Bryzgalov for one year. I we get to mid season and none of those three have done the job. Make the trade.

How in your infinite wisdom JW can you possibly think Hiller, or Miller are not upgrades over Dubnyk?

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#107 Spydyr
October 13 2013, 07:44AM
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Gret99zky wrote:

New wife, check.

New child, check.

New GM has no faith in him, check.

DD has a lot on his plate.

Getting paid 4 million, check

Letting your teammates down almost every game this year, check

Playing like a professional and not letting your outside life game bother you, fail.

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#108 Taylor Gang
October 13 2013, 08:29AM
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Small sample sizes for Dubnyk? How many 4 goal games do people need to see before they realize that Dubnyk is not the starting goalie we've been looking for? Dubnyk has proven over and over that he is just mentally unstable in net, like how he let in a quick goal right after another one last year. At least then he put up decent numbers. The Oilers outplayed the Leafs so hard, and yet Dubnyk atill managed to find a way to make this team lose. This is their year, and Dubnyk just isn't up to the challenge.

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#109 jasongb
October 13 2013, 09:35AM
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HOLD HOLD HOLD, don't pull a trade trigger or sign that idiot Bryzgalov. I don't care that he had a good record once, we don't need to sign that fool. Too disruptive to the room and will no work and will be a bad signing. Look at Mac T's additions. they are all good additions. I think the first 20 games are going to be ugly, no matter how sick of paying to watch a loosing team, it will take time. Mac T and Eakins are turning this team to a winner, but it is going to take time. That being said, I was not speaking with a PG rating after that Leafs game.

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#110 Walter Sobchak
October 13 2013, 09:59AM
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This is the lame argument Rob Brown had on his after game program.

That starting goalies would cost you dear! A caller suggests a first round pick could secure a starting goalie, Brown being Brown laughed that comment off.

Meanwhile, the Oilers almost had Schneider had Gillis not screwed the Oilers one more time and settled for NJD 9th overall instead of the Oilers 7th and Paajarvi.

Bernier was even less IIRC

Ryan Millar would be, could be had for the Oilers 1st and Dubnyk.

Millar for a sign and trade, Millar is only two hours to his lovely wife in LA.

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#111 morgie
October 13 2013, 11:36AM
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chuckcouples wrote:

Who's errors have cost the Oilers more goals against this season, Devan Dubnyk or Taylor Hall? Watch the 5th Leafs goal again...who gives the puck away to set up the shot by Lupul? Hall tries a between the legs, no look pass to the middle of the ice with a 1 goal lead in the last 40 seconds of a hockey game.

I'd say Dubnyk's errors have cost the oilers more this season than Hall, but it's close LOL

At least Hall does positive things, Dubnyk has made some big saves but more bad than good, not sure if I can say the same about Hall

As error prone as Hall has been, I think good outweighs the bad, besides he was playing out of position, what's Dubbie's excuse, new equipment? Weak!

As for the play you mention, let's be honest, it was hardly a no look pass up the middle, it was up the boards, and I suspect he was trying to get it out? but it was not up the middle, that would be really horrendous and something rather obvious we'd be talking about. A good play? probably not, but regardless, dubnyk has to be able to stop that weak shot

at 3:41 is the play you speak of

http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2013020064-X-h&navid=DL|EDM|home

that's like saying Kadri had a great goal, great aim, but it was a terrible goal, no more excuses for Dubbie

Run with Labarabrra till he loses or looks really poor, otherwise ride him till we give Dubs another shot at goal

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#112 Retsinnab5
October 13 2013, 11:55AM
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Call up Bachman let three goalies battle it out.

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#113 Jmang
October 12 2013, 11:29PM
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I personally would give dub another shot. If that doesnt work. Send labarbra down (assuming he doesnt get claimed) give bachman a few starts abd a chance to prove himself again. If its horrendous sign bryz to a 1 year contract worth 1 mill to compete with dub. Send bachman back down. Run with those 2. If neither get it done. Then its big trade time.

I personally wish we picked up khudobin. Whats he make? 1 mill? but No mac t was too busy looking for face punchers. When gange is back if he doesnt play wing. I could see 4 goo lines. A third and forth line consisting or gordon arcobello yak smyth joenssu and gazdic.

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#114 Alsker
October 12 2013, 11:30PM
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With so little capspace left and Miller being a Tim Thomas look a like, QSB had mentioned Raanta on another thread...Ill take his word for it and say we go for him...Next years 1st + roster/prospect..we need goaltending now, make it happen MacT!!!!

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#115 Alsker
October 13 2013, 12:16AM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

Jonathan,

Do your stats hold you at night and tell you they love you?

On a side note, we are probably one of the few teams who assumes no trade can be made without being ripped off. Probably years of poor management at work.

I would love to see the oilers win, but a part of me wants them to lose miserably so maybe, just maybe, Lowe & co. are given the boot. Call it blood lust.

Dont need to win but break even on a trade, as for Klowe+co. after what he's done and to still draw a paycheck, there is nothing he can do to cost him his place in the Oilers. That is until RX2 opens, at which time the Oil better be serious winners or else...In other words we have 2-3 years of this crap left.

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#116 Garon
October 13 2013, 03:17AM
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"TWO GAMES!!! Holy Crap! 2 Games Everybody! Ignore the fact that he had no defense in either game!"

Actually, I'm being generous. Because he was bad to mediocre the other games as well. But I can't honestly claim that he lost them for us.

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#117 madjam
October 13 2013, 07:11AM
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Dubbie needs/should go for conditioning stint to OKC (if that is possible) to hone his game , while Bachman comes up , as he is playing well in OKC . Lababarra starts in the interim . We have plenty of other equally pressing problems that need cure that otherwise might not be seen or dealt with if we had stellar goaltending to start this year .

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#118 madjam
October 13 2013, 07:49AM
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Why did they rush to send Nurse back so early ? If he were here I bet we would be at least 3-2 . Should have given him 9 game stint at least . I guess only the Flames are that smart with Monohan !

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#119 Smokey
October 13 2013, 08:33AM
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oilers2k10 wrote:

The more I watch him play the more I'm starting to think that Mark Arcobello is Sam Gagner. They are the same player. Wonder what kind of contract extention he gets.

Also where does Yakupov fit into the lineup now, what about once Gags returns? You cant send Arcobello down with the way he's playing, and Yakupov can't be on the 3rd or 4th lines and be expected to find his game there. He needs more minutes, coach needs to realize that he's very very young, be patient..allow the kid to make mistakes and learn. He's 19 yrs old, high risk high reward with young guys like that.

I suggest Eakins should put good two way players with Yakupov..put Yak on a line with Hall and RNH.

Except Mark can win face-offs and Gagner can score. And 3 inches and 25 pounds.

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#120 Dave
October 13 2013, 09:10AM
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Maybe call up Ryan Jones . Every bit helps.

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#121 Hammers
October 13 2013, 10:24AM
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Totally agree on your statements as this is on more than goalkeeping . Swarm is costing goals nearly as much as DD . McT can't panic with trades we will loose on a goalie . I would sooner trade for another upgrade on "D" . Belov coming along as I expected . J Schultz making as many mistakes as DD but not even talked about so he should be on 3rd pairing until loosing by a couple then let him run . Keep Petry , Ference , Belov , J. Schultz and try to upgrade either N. Schultz , Smid or both and that kind of trade may be easier to make .

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#122 Rama Lama
October 13 2013, 10:49AM
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Dubby has been sheltered in the past with defensive systems that mostly saw shots being taken from outside the danderous areas of the ice. Fast forward and now we have a new system under the uber intelligent Dallas Eakins called the SWARM.

Under this new system of play we can expect more of what we saw when Lupul was left all alone in the slot. Now that all players are instructed to collapse around the puck we will see players left all alone in the slot facing Dubby. Dubby will do what Dubby does immediately fall down and start flopping around like a wounded fish.

I have not seen any positive movement around coaching like we were all told we could expect. In stead all the star players that we have accumulated look lost out there, running into each other, not shooting the puck, following the puck around like a bunch of five year olds.

Gonna be a long season.

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#123 rocket289k
October 13 2013, 11:09AM
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Jofa wrote:

"We could have had Fuhr, Moog, Ranford, Cujo or Roloson at their prime in net tonight and it wouldn't have mattered."

What a bizarre statement. Seriously? Even if you take your last example, Roloson in his prime, this was a clutch guy who could hold the team in games they had no business winning. The game against Toronto was a very winnable game, but Dubnyk wasn't able to help them hold a lead or make the clutch save.

The point is our defense last night wasn't even AHL quality last night.

The list of goaltenders I provided all had one benefit Dubynk did not have last night - a set of defensemen in front of them that played at the NHL level.

Our D was brutal last night - especially away from the play where the TV cameras weren't watching. I was at the ACC last night not watching on TV.

Was Dubynk blameless, of course not. But I don't care who we had in the net last night when you give the opposition that many turnovers and gift goals you're in tough. Dubynk has been subpar but he's not the #1 reason we lost.

We need better goaltending - that's a fact. But the goathorns are squarely on the boneheaded play of the D last night.

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#124 morgie
October 13 2013, 11:28AM
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chuckcouples wrote:

Who's errors have cost the Oilers more goals against this season, Devan Dubnyk or Taylor Hall? Watch the 5th Leafs goal again...who gives the puck away to set up the shot by Lupul? Hall tries a between the legs, no look pass to the middle of the ice with a 1 goal lead in the last 40 seconds of a hockey game.

I'd say Dubnyk's errors have cost the oilers more this season than Hall, but it's close LOL

At least Hall does positive things, Dubnyk has made some big saves but more bad than good, not sure if I can say the same about Hall

As error prone as Hall has been, I think good outweighs the bad, besides he was playing out of position, what's Dubbie's excuse, new equipment? Weak!

As for the play you mention, let's be honest, it was hardly a no look pass up the middle, it was up the boards, and I suspect he was trying to get it out? but it was not up the middle, that would be really horrendous and something rather obvious we'd be talking about. A good play? probably not, but regardless, dubnyk has to be able to stop that weak shot

at 3:41 is the play you speak of

http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2013020064-X-h&navid=DL|EDM|home

that's like saying Kadri had a great goal, great aim, but it was a terrible goal, no more excuses for Dubbie

Run with Labarabrra till he loses or looks really poor, otherwise ride him till we give Dubs another shot at goal

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#125 Mikey
October 13 2013, 11:57AM
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DoubleJ wrote:

Seriously? I saw three maybe four very routine saves go through Dubnyk. It looks like he actually tries to get out of the way on some of the goals.

I think Bernier is the weaker goalie out of the two. But Bernier actually had to make some saves to keep their team in it. Dubnyk created scoring chances for Toronto.

I think Dubnyk was going to push himself into the top ten for goalies this year. I really did, I'm not sure if it's the new equipment. Maybe the goalie coach.

I noticed Dubnyk was very deep in his net and so was Labarbera. Is that because of the goalie coach? Maybe.

I'm all for grabbing Bryz for league min. and giving him a try. Dubnyk has lost me in these last four games. He's been brutal.

I feel exactly the same as you. I talked Dubby up so much this summer.

Why was he ducking down on Kadri goal. Why did he barley lift his leg on the game winner, when all that did was protect his body (not cover open net) and leave a wide open five hole. Why was his glove resting on his pad when he slid over for the Lupul goal, it should have already be in the air covering the top corner. It's pathetic. I'm actually disgusted by his play.

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#126 TDSM31
October 13 2013, 12:54PM
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If Smytty and Yak have already had nights in the press box for poor play, why the hell is Dubnyk still dressing, let alone starting?? Bring up Bachman and start LaBarbera next game while Dubby thinks about it in the press box. Time for some tough love.

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#127 The Last Big Bear
October 13 2013, 03:08AM
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I'm not sure if its been brought up yet, but I dont think option 3 is really an option.

After all, he may be tired to play here. Here is in the November month like minus thirty two degrees. And is snow eight months of year.

I mean, he is good guy, and all. But this is professional sports.

Why you haff to be mad?

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#128 N4R
October 13 2013, 03:28AM
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Edmonton Oilers vs Toronto Maple Leafs (12.10.2013) http://prognoz-na-sport.info/news/skachat_match_edmonton_oilers_vs_toronto_maple_leafs_nhl_2013_2014_regular_season_12_10_2013/2013-10-13-6741

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#129 The Oilers Shot Clock
October 13 2013, 04:41AM
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@flyricky

It would be awesome if the cap didnt exist if we simply ignored it huh?

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#130 spliff
October 13 2013, 05:48AM
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Every game, more excuses from players, coaches and management. I wonder what the "plan" will be if they don't make the playoffs this year?

Whats the plan MacT? Kevin? Watching a horrible loser of a team for eight years in a row, I want to know, what the plan is?

Can someone from the Oilers office refund me 150$ that I wasted on NHL gamecenter. Every year I think "this year will be different" but its always the same. I'm getting very very tired of this constant losing. Why do I still give a sh*t?

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#131 Kyle
October 13 2013, 06:12AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's going to take a dozen stinkers in order for MacT to pick up the phone. A commitment to Dubey was made at the start of the season and it isn't possible to undo it at this point. Unless there is a GM out there who really wants Hemsky, we aren't about to make a deal for a goalie. There's a much better chance we pick up a strong defensive blue liner who can save us one goal per game. We have lots of firepower, but we need our goals against to be under four in order to win games. It's pointless calling for Dubnyk's head after each loss. It isn't happening for at least another month.

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#132 oilers2k10
October 13 2013, 06:54AM
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The more I watch him play the more I'm starting to think that Mark Arcobello is Sam Gagner. They are the same player. Wonder what kind of contract extention he gets.

Also where does Yakupov fit into the lineup now, what about once Gags returns? You cant send Arcobello down with the way he's playing, and Yakupov can't be on the 3rd or 4th lines and be expected to find his game there. He needs more minutes, coach needs to realize that he's very very young, be patient..allow the kid to make mistakes and learn. He's 19 yrs old, high risk high reward with young guys like that.

I suggest Eakins should put good two way players with Yakupov..put Yak on a line with Hall and RNH.

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#133 Allan O
October 13 2013, 07:09AM
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@Sidney Frosby

Oilers should trade a prospect or two for Martin Jones who plays for Manchester Monarchs in the AHL. A tall athletic goalie with tremendous upside. LA is set in goal with Quick and Jones might be had for the right price. Best goalie in the AHL.

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#134 michael
October 13 2013, 07:25AM
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If DD cannot find his game well be so hooped it won't even be funny.What team would take him? 3.75 million thank you very much Tambo. You can't bury his contract.

We still have one buyout but I don't think you can use that during the year. A regular buyout? I don't know if that is applicable either.

Signing IB would be tantamount to disaster. Talk about a circus if that comes about.

Positives. Arcobello. What Jason Gregor. He is small and can't play. Not enough foot speed. What? 3 assists and had he scored we might be talking about something other than the goaltending.

Ryan Smyth. 2 goals and looked fresh. This is how we do it. Sit and play. Sit and play. He looked like he had energy. The line produced 3 goals.

Boyd Gordon.Has been more than advertised. Looks like he has found his niche here in Edmonton.

Negatives

Gagner. Not in the lineup. His absence is felt.

Yakupov. Same as above.

Justin Shultz. hello? the season has started. Shoot the puck.

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#135 Spydyr
October 13 2013, 09:28AM
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Jofa wrote:

"The decision was made in the summer" ... Was it?

By all accounts, MacT was trying to upgrade goaltending with guys like Schneider or Bernier. If anything, this would indicate the "decision" made this summer was that Dubnyk was not MacTavish's preferred starter and that the team needs to upgrade at this position. The fact that Dubnyk is still here is less about a decision being made that the organization believes he's their #1 guy and more a result of upgrade attempts via trade or signing being unsuccessful to date.

Knowing that MacT saw goaltending as a weakness and was looking to upgrade at the position, I suspect he is going to be actively looking for a deal in order to try to keep his first season at the helm from derailing. The asking price will be dear, but so too is having a team (and fan base) lose confidence in its goaltending. Dubnyk had a window to convince the organization that he can be their guy, but I can't imagine the new coach or GM are impressed with what they've seen to date. Yes it's early to draw conclusions, but this is also supposed to be the year this franchise takes a big step forward, and a quick (yes BOLD) step may be needed before the oil dig themselves into too big of a hole.

"Dubnyk had a window to convince the organization that he can be their guy, but I can't imagine the new coach or GM are impressed with what they've seen to date."

He has convinced many of us he is NOT the guy. Some of us knew a long time ago.

What really matters is Dubnyk convincing the "braintrust", From the looks of their faces after last game it appears to be mission accomplished.Now it is only a matter of finding the right deal without to much of an overpay.

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#136 rob
October 13 2013, 10:56AM
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Mact needs to pull a trade for a goalie STAT!our defence and that is not great but this team needs someone to make a big stop,if the players knew they could rely on there goalie once in awhile they would open up more.I know this team is not perfect but a goalie would help huge.we sucked in 06 till they got roalie and look what happened(not saying it would happen again)but we need this addressed now.Mact t please do something bold!

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#137 war
October 13 2013, 11:11AM
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use a prospect and a pick to get a goalie,if we had a great golie this team would be 3and 2!it would help lots and other stuff would works it self out

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#138 Spydyr
October 13 2013, 11:14AM
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Czar wrote:

Pot meet Mr Kettle. Good Grief

Please by all means show me the post where I suggested someone drop to their knees in a men's locker room.

Having a different viewpoint than someone else is what the comment section is all about.

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#139 andrewmk20
October 13 2013, 12:36PM
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@Jonathan Willis

I don't think the Oilers should make a deal either. They aren't a cup contender this year and selling important assets seems wasteful. But with some fairly good goaltenders being ufa's this summer who do you think the Oilers should target if possible? Jonas Hiller, Henrik Lundqvist, and Jaroslav Halak are all ufas. St Louis has Jake Allen and Brian Elliott and emerging cap issues, New York is going to be have to be careful because they'll have cap space but they also have to resign a lot of position players for next year. Anaheim is going to be interesting because I like Hiller but it seems if Fasth struggles this year it will be very unlikely they let Hiller go to free agency.

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#140 nunyour
October 13 2013, 02:40PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Wow, good to see so many newcomers on the reality band wagon.

More than a few here have been saying this about Dubnyk for a couple years already. Yesterdays troll has become todays realist.

The best thing about it is now we don't have to listen to the media pump his tires anymore.

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#141 Garon
October 13 2013, 03:23PM
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" I'd be tempted to go with Jason LaBarbera against Washington, to give Dubnyk a game off and see what the backup can do;"

Why would they even consider playing Dubnyk right now? I wouldn't let him out of the dressing room.

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#142 risto siltanen's shot
October 12 2013, 11:24PM
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another loss and bad goaltending...but i'm tired of the oilers never having a killer instinct or the skill to finish off an opponent. does this team ever score empty netters? a lot less often than getting beat by backups.if arco scores on an empty netter or someone fires a puck 200 feet into the goal without worrying about the faceoff (why if dubbie doesn't). these are the things that keep happening or NOT happening. it blows but i'm not ready to trade gold 4 garbage. let's give an andy moog a chance and see what happens.time to get lucky

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#143 Zamboni Driver
October 12 2013, 11:45PM
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@Johe

Said every single year for the past 7.

Roger.

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#144 Kyle
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That wouldn't be a horrible idea if either of those players were meeting expectations. Myers needs a change of scenery. No doubt about it.

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#145 Greg the Hammer Valentine
October 13 2013, 07:24AM
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Maybe it!s not too early for an investment in a long term project. A good prospect stuck in the minors because of depth, like Philip Grubauer in Washington could be a pretty good acquisition. Because right now, not only our current goaltending is bad but we have nothing coming down the pipeline.

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#146 book¡e
October 13 2013, 08:11AM
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Neither has Hall

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#147 Dangilitis
October 13 2013, 08:15AM
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I don't know if Khudobin was interested, but I can't even fathom why he was bought for nothing by Carolina after the Oilers had signed Labarbera. Maybe MacT didn't think he had a legitimate shot at him, but come on! No offence to Carolina but it is not exactly the #1 destination of NHL players, and they got him for 200,000 less than LaBarbera. I would have signed Anton for 1.5 million, he had way more potential and I do believe that he will make the goaltending issue more complicated in Carolina. Which is what should have happened in Edmonton, rather than bringing in Dubnyk's tall friend.

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#148 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
October 13 2013, 08:24AM
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Dubbie is certainly part of the problem but there were so many individual blunders in the d zone last night, it was scary. Hope its just part of learning the new system.

Is JS the new Sandis Ozolinsh? Holy crap, that was a horrid play on the OT goal. Dangerous on both sides of the ice.

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#149 Ron Burgundy
October 13 2013, 10:31AM
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goalieczar wrote:

Dubnyk has done the same thing every year. When the games matter early in the year and the pressure is on, he is terrible. Two years ago he couldn't win a game for the first half of the season. When the Oilers were basically mathematically eliminated was when he padded his save percentage.

The answer is simple. Petr Mrazek in Detroit. He is a future superstar, we can probably get him for less than a first,and he is the same age as the rest of our kids.

I like this - would be nice to get Brendan Smith as well. There's got to be some combo of prospects, picks and players that could make this happen.

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#150 rocket289k
October 13 2013, 11:20AM
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Dubby has been sheltered in the past with defensive systems that mostly saw shots being taken from outside the danderous areas of the ice. Fast forward and now we have a new system under the uber intelligent Dallas Eakins called the SWARM.

Under this new system of play we can expect more of what we saw when Lupul was left all alone in the slot. Now that all players are instructed to collapse around the puck we will see players left all alone in the slot facing Dubby. Dubby will do what Dubby does immediately fall down and start flopping around like a wounded fish.

I have not seen any positive movement around coaching like we were all told we could expect. In stead all the star players that we have accumulated look lost out there, running into each other, not shooting the puck, following the puck around like a bunch of five year olds.

Gonna be a long season.

This quote from Boyd Gordon in John McKinnon's article strike a chord.

"Since he has been about “10 years old,” Gordon has been more accustomed to the traditional plan in which one defenceman guards the front of the net, while his partner and the centre do the puck retrieval chores along the wall and in the corner.

Habits being habits, do the Oilers lapse back to that approach in the heat of battle?

“Yeah, I think everyone has,” Gordon said. “I know I have.”

That may help explain some of the running around but it doesn't explain our D coughing up the puck on a regular basis last night.

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