Oilers learning how to increase their chances of victory

Jason Strudwick
October 13 2013 11:34AM

It takes time for a team to adopt the style of play a new coach is putting in place. At times the players are stuck between being in the right place and being out of position, it can look like they are frozen. We have seen this for quite a few periods for the Oilers this season. The good news is that it will get better.

Head coach Dallas Eakins will get the bulk of the players understanding what he wants from them and what type of team he expects them to be. There will be some growing pains and frustrating nights as the players learn it but if Eakins sticks to his guns the players will get there.

There will be nights were Eakins will want to get the attention of a player by sitting him out. Yakupov was scratched saturday night in Toronto. No doubt he was upset and embarrassed. He should feel that way, a coach wants him to feel something. It can be a great motivator.

Yakupov's being sat isn't the end of the world; seeing how he responds can be. Will he come out flying, skating, shooting and trying to play a solid game away from the puck or will be pout and feel sorry for himself? I would expect him to be back in the lineup Monday, let’s see how he plays. I fully expect him to come out on a mission.

The challenge isn't learning a system. There are many different systems that can be used for a team. All the players have experience with some form of system so they can figure it out. The hard part is being consistent playing within the system.

Playing a consistent game is key to success for individual players and the group. A coach should know what type of a game he will get from each player every night. He doesn't want to have to guess to know if Player A will have a good game or not. Coaches have a hard time trusting inconsistent players. They do not get a lot of the important ice-time, like the last five minutes of the game or period.

The team must also be consistent in their approach to playing the system. A system is in place to protect you when you are under a lot of pressure from the other team or you are tired. It is the foundation on which successful teams are built. It won't work to play the system when it is convenient or feels right. That leaves too much to chance.

I had a coach who broke down an NHL season into three different types of game scenarios. He said there are twenty games that a team will win. All the bounces will go their way. All players will be firing on all cylinders. The power play gets a lot of opportunities and makes good. Basically these are games when everything goes right and winning the game is a given.

He said there are another twenty games that are guaranteed losses. No matter what a team does they will not win. The other team's goalie blacks out and sets up a brick wall in front of the net. The team is tired. Injuries take some key players out of the line-up. The refs make some tough calls. These games just will not be won.

So that leaves forty games. He said it is in these forty games that playoffs are made and missed. The difference between winning and losing these games is razor thin. Attention to detail is the difference.

Playing the system to perfection is key. Knowing when to cheat offensively and when to be cautious wins and loses games. Strong and consistent goaltending. Winning more face offs then you lose. Getting pucks deep. These and other details add up to increasing the chance of your team winning enough of these forty games to get into the playoffs.

There is no doubt that there is a lot of NHL season left, the panic button should not be pressed just yet. I do think that Saturday night’s game in Toronto was one of the forty games that could go either way. The Oilers got one point, in my opinion a serious playoff team gets two. They need to get to those points.

Dubnyk

Wow! This guy is not getting any love these days. He is taking heat from every direction. There is no doubt that he has not played up to his own expectations. I don't need to look at stats to know how he has struggled. Just watch him in the net, he looks very uncomfortable. He has not found his game so far this season.

Before we run him out of town consider this. Goalies go through funks during a NHL season. Just like skaters they have ups and downs during the year. Could it be that Dubnyk has just started the season in a slump? I am not ready to throw him away just yet. This road trip has come at the right time. He can get away from Edmonton and just focus on his game.

He needs to improve. His play has been subpar. The defensive play in front of him has been helter skelter far too often but that doesn't change the situation Dubnyk, he needs to better.

Thornton and his Rooster?

The comments from Big Joe about what he would do after scoring four goals in a game are classic. I have been laughing about them for the last couple of days. I am glad they came out.

The locker room is a sacred place. When the media comes in they need to respect that. The age old battle of what is on or off the record is one that players and the media are always trying to sort out.

Thornton made the comments beside a big group of reporters, they were not interviewing him. In my opinion that makes it off the record. However when you throw a quote at there like that you never know what will happen with it. Joe should know this and choose his audience better.

A reporter named Botchford decided to run with it. I get it, it got a lot of attention for him. In the short term it looks like a home run. In the long run I think it will affect his ability to get interviews or good quotes.

Every player in the NHL will know that when he is around, nothing is off the record. They will be much more likely to choose their words very carefully and and clam up or cut the interview short.

The gate keepers between the player and the media are public relation people. I know that these people will reduce or cut Botchford's access to players. Their role is to protect the image of the team and the players. They will be watching Botchford like a hawk.

I know this because I went through a situation like this. A veteran reporter asked a player how his fitness testing went at camp. His real motive was to confirm a rumor going around that a veteran player was out of shape. After the rookie said he did well the reporter asked about the older player. This rookie said that he was out of shape and didn't do very well. The reporter ran with it.

The next day got a little ugly for the rookie and the veteran. The veteran had to field questions about his conditioning and it came up every time he played a subpar game. The rookie had to deal with the rest of the team and captain. The dressing room is sacred, some things just don't leave there. It was a hard lesson for the rookie but one I know he never forgot.

As for that reporter his year got a lot harder. As a team we decided to give him one word answers the rest of the year. "How do you think the team needs to prepare for the game tonight?" "Hard" That was it. He didn't get a good quote the whole year. Do you think his boss was happy about that?

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#1 Czar
October 13 2013, 12:02PM
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Any truth to the rumor that Botchford is actually DSF?

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#2 harp
October 13 2013, 12:07PM
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Dubnyk is awful. Oil outplayed the Jets and Leafs and have two losses to show for it. Bachman should be called up, the goaltending has been embarrassing.

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#3 Thumby
October 13 2013, 11:41AM
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The FIST thing we need to do is get average goaltending...we'll worry about solid goaltending later...

Sorry RB - couldn't resist.....

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#4 Geitus Maximus
October 13 2013, 07:37PM
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John wrote:

Ah Jason, I'm disappointed. You like that creepy stuff from Thorton too, eh?

I love stuff like the "You Can Play" movement in the NHL. It's all about inclusiveness and helping people feel welcome.

But Joe's greasy comments have the opposite intention--they were meant to put a reporter down and make him feel uncomfortable.

You thought that was funny, Jason. Sad, man. The same goes to anyone else laughing at that situation.

Me thinks you are taking this a little too serious.

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#5 Retsinnab5
October 13 2013, 12:02PM
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Call up Bachman from OKC let the three goalies battle for jobs. Top two guys stay the other gets sent down.

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#6 Dan 1919
October 13 2013, 12:22PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

System........what system? You mean the one where everyone follows the puck around like a bunch of five year olds?

I for one do not believe that all the players are the problem, except maybe for Dubby?

I have seen all the players look confused out there even Hall, RNH, and Eberle......is Eakins going to Bench them too?

Benching Yaks is laughable.......Eakins should bench himself and go for a 200 km bicycle ride.......that will solve everything.

Did you watch Yak play? When he didn't have the puck he wasn't just floating, he was literally standing around on the ice, it actually looked very awkward to see at the NHL level. His sitting is good. He will be better.

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#7 Dan 1919
October 13 2013, 12:27PM
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Smokey wrote:

Oilers have played well enough to have four more points. You gotta go with Barbie to see if he can give you at least average goaltending. Last night was sad. The Oilers outplayed and outshot TO and there was 4 bad goals. Might of been Dubbie's worst game since San Jose last year. Oilers still seem to be learning Eakins defensive system, but I like the neutral zone play and 5x5 offensive zone play. Clean up the special teams, get some timely goaltending, tighten up the d zone, we will be ok.

I agree, if they had average goaltending they won that game easily. The team is looking worse than they are right now because every small mistake (that all teams make every night), is being magnified and drained past soft Dubnyk.

This team is competing now, improving every night, and looking solid. My biggest worry is that the team is going to stop putting in the effort because they know everything they do will just be spit on by Dubnyk as soon as they allow a shot against.

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#8 WhattaMike
October 13 2013, 01:12PM
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I am one who understands this a new coached team with new systems to learn, and that there have been several player changes and/or serious injuries thus far....and that this takes time to get gelled...However, I for one, am very NOT happy with Dubnyk this season so far (albeit only 5 games the team has played).

Four games in and he has allowed how many already?????? I do not care if he is very polite or great with teammates or with the media. What I care about is that this kid is not a kid no more, not a prospect no more and therefore, at 27 yrs old with more than enough professional games played, Dubnyk should be playing his best games now....not later this year.

I like Dubnyk alot and he can play much much much better....but hey this is the NHL and if he can't stand the pressure to play and be the number 1 guy, then it is time to become either a sturdy backup or get out of the game.

Sounds harsh but it is what it is. A goalie cannot afford a long term slump in any season. This isnt baseball where teams each have 20 something like pitchers to take over games or rotations.

If a kid like Yakupov can be benched then it is time to look at what to do with Dubnyk...bring up Bachman? trade for a goalie? sign someone like Bryz right now for one season? I do not know for sure but now is the time to get started on what to do. I hope Dubnyk can play his best real quick but doing nothing to move him along is frustrating.

Last but not least is what the hell is Chabot teaching our goalies? Maybe he is not a good coach for our guys. I see Dubnyk going down before the shots, not moving out to protect the net, flopping aorund so piucks go underneath and...around the nets and boards... his handling of the puck is terrible. Someone should talk to Chabot about what the heck HE is doing with the goalies. Even Look at what Allaire is doing with Colorados' goalies already....they are winning games and stopping pucks!!!!!!

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#9 Rama Lama
October 13 2013, 11:50AM
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System........what system? You mean the one where everyone follows the puck around like a bunch of five year olds?

I for one do not believe that all the players are the problem, except maybe for Dubby?

I have seen all the players look confused out there even Hall, RNH, and Eberle......is Eakins going to Bench them too?

Benching Yaks is laughable.......Eakins should bench himself and go for a 200 km bicycle ride.......that will solve everything.

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#10 Manfly
October 13 2013, 01:32PM
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here's my 2 cents....the Oilers will get better as the season goes on as long as they buy into Dallas' system. but they still seem to need to make a few moves on defense and they just aren't getting the big saves they need from Dubnyk, who let in weak goals to tie the game late and in OT to lose the game. I can see why they tried to replace this guy over the summer. I was still a believer in DD but now he's making me into a non believer.

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#11 Smokey
October 13 2013, 11:41AM
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Oilers have played well enough to have four more points. You gotta go with Barbie to see if he can give you at least average goaltending. Last night was sad. The Oilers outplayed and outshot TO and there was 4 bad goals. Might of been Dubbie's worst game since San Jose last year. Oilers still seem to be learning Eakins defensive system, but I like the neutral zone play and 5x5 offensive zone play. Clean up the special teams, get some timely goaltending, tighten up the d zone, we will be ok.

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#12 @Oilanderp
October 13 2013, 02:49PM
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@Noelpm

I'm thinking once Elliot leaves the Blues' super-defensive system, he will get smoked.

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#13 Turnover
October 13 2013, 02:53PM
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I say we should get Gump Worsley and Glen Hall. Gump is dead so he'd be the backup i spose. Glen lives in Stony Plain so he wouldn't have to much travel. So don't worry about the goaltending. I just solved it.

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#14 Slats
October 13 2013, 01:42PM
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System - I like it for the reason we are getting more quality chances and getting more shots than we are giving up. Need to tweak up the back end which means forwards to recognize "danger" (Eakins quote) better and the D need to know when to not just "do the system" but the basics of "heh cover a man" (eg. See Lupul wonder to slot in final minute)

Yaks - most hate the move and think it's a double standard to Hall but the cases are far different. Hall is producing Yaks is not - it's that simple. For me if Hall is having lots of giveaways in a game then I would not play him in that final minute he needs to earn that time in the game. Period - otherwise you go with who is playing your best d-forward. Hopefully Yaks sees this and he is never in the press box again.

Thornton - agreed - it's totally funny to hear these comments but I bet Mr. Botchford will be writing the "Living Well" column for Shape magazine next year.

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#15 DSF
October 13 2013, 05:13PM
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OILERS LEARNING HOW TO INCREASE THEIR CHANCES OF VICTORY

Good grief.

This is the best hockey league in the world.

If a team is still learning to "increase their chances of victory" perhaps they should withdraw from the NHL and apply for entrance into a minor league.

Players who are being paid $6M annually should already know how to win.

Or they shouldn't expect to be paid like they do.

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#16 RT
October 13 2013, 01:48PM
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WhattaMike wrote:

I am one who understands this a new coached team with new systems to learn, and that there have been several player changes and/or serious injuries thus far....and that this takes time to get gelled...However, I for one, am very NOT happy with Dubnyk this season so far (albeit only 5 games the team has played).

Four games in and he has allowed how many already?????? I do not care if he is very polite or great with teammates or with the media. What I care about is that this kid is not a kid no more, not a prospect no more and therefore, at 27 yrs old with more than enough professional games played, Dubnyk should be playing his best games now....not later this year.

I like Dubnyk alot and he can play much much much better....but hey this is the NHL and if he can't stand the pressure to play and be the number 1 guy, then it is time to become either a sturdy backup or get out of the game.

Sounds harsh but it is what it is. A goalie cannot afford a long term slump in any season. This isnt baseball where teams each have 20 something like pitchers to take over games or rotations.

If a kid like Yakupov can be benched then it is time to look at what to do with Dubnyk...bring up Bachman? trade for a goalie? sign someone like Bryz right now for one season? I do not know for sure but now is the time to get started on what to do. I hope Dubnyk can play his best real quick but doing nothing to move him along is frustrating.

Last but not least is what the hell is Chabot teaching our goalies? Maybe he is not a good coach for our guys. I see Dubnyk going down before the shots, not moving out to protect the net, flopping aorund so piucks go underneath and...around the nets and boards... his handling of the puck is terrible. Someone should talk to Chabot about what the heck HE is doing with the goalies. Even Look at what Allaire is doing with Colorados' goalies already....they are winning games and stopping pucks!!!!!!

I agree .What has Chabot done with ANY of our goalies through out the system. I think we should all start to scratch a little deeper at where the real problem might be The Goal tender Coach.

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#17 Will
October 13 2013, 01:54PM
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How is anyone criticizing the new system. We're no longer being outshot, outchanced, outpossessioned. We are winning more faceoffs than losing, we're playing a much more physical game (or at least some players are), and both our top guns and vets are contributing. Not to mention, we're doing better 5 on 5 than we are on special teams. Those were all the criticisms leveled against Krueger that have been fixed by new acquisitions and Eakins. The only reason we haven't won 3 of 5 is because of Dubnyk. The only reason we didn't win four of five, is a combination of Dubnyk and bounces. I think we outplayed Montreal, but they capitalized against our marshmallow goalie whereas Price and his posts were too much for the Oilers.

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#18 Rama Lama
October 13 2013, 04:08PM
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Smokey wrote:

Miller signed, is worth a first and decent prospect. However with the great MacT signings we can't afford the hit anyways.

Miller use to be good and now he thinks that everyone is stupid except him.........he is very over-rated and will be poison in the dressing room.

Be careful what you wish for.

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#19 Gudke
October 13 2013, 12:28PM
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Swarm is effective if played properly. But players need to know when to go for i and when not to. If there are 2 players in the zone and ur player is taking one guy to the boards to stay on ur man? Or peace out and hope for the best. Last night with shultz and gordon on the lupul goal is a perfect example. One of them shouldnt have left their man.

i am not a fan of shultz.he doesnt know how to play defense and looks lost. He should have been scrathed with yakupov to deliver a clear mmessage. If the oilers sin shultz at seasons end for more than 4 mill. I offically give up on managment.

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#20 Smokey
October 13 2013, 12:56PM
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Avatarget wrote:

So far I haven't seen anything from Yak to justify his first overall selection. I sure hope that changes but the results so far are not encouraging. I am not in panic mode about picking him so high yet, but I am mildly concerned. Guy Lafleur got off to a bit of a slow start and then took off and became a superstar and the same could happen with Yak. Hope he gets it together eventually (sooner is better than later but later is better than never at all). I sure hope we didn't blow a number one overall selection on a player who never arrives.

He should of won the Calder last year, led the team in goals last year, he was the consensus first overall pick. Give him some time. Steven Stamkos was all types of suck his first full year. Playing third line and being a bit snakebitten this year has contributed to him being a bit lacksadasicle. He has not been given much of push from the coaching staff and that's a tough challenge for a player use to being the man.

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#21 Avatarget
October 13 2013, 12:58PM
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Noelpm wrote:

Everyone is looking for Goalie options right now. Admittedly I still believe it is too early; however, what is the chance we could get on the phone with the St. Louis Blues in regards to Brian Elliot. What would we have to give up for him? Halak looks back in form and Jake Allen is poised to be their 'next' franchise goalie.

Up to now I have been a Dubnyk fan but my patience with him is now at an all time low. I never believed he would be a great NHL goalie but I did believe he would be good enough to lead us to the playoffs. Recent events would seem contradict that opinion. Who could the Oil possibly land to replace him. What would it take to get a goalie out of Ottawa or perhaps Ben Bishop away from Tampa? Who are the other attainable goalies out there who could help us reach the playoff promised land?

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#22 Czar
October 13 2013, 01:51PM
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The system I would like implemented is the work your friggin bag off system. Replace the cardboard cut out we've had in net and start earning your millions boys!

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#23 BC BOY
October 13 2013, 05:23PM
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DSF wrote:

OILERS LEARNING HOW TO INCREASE THEIR CHANCES OF VICTORY

Good grief.

This is the best hockey league in the world.

If a team is still learning to "increase their chances of victory" perhaps they should withdraw from the NHL and apply for entrance into a minor league.

Players who are being paid $6M annually should already know how to win.

Or they shouldn't expect to be paid like they do.

Learning to win is like you getting laid. Its a long and sometimes painful process and sometimes takes a couple years. Just give the oilers some time they are going in the right direction

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#24 John
October 13 2013, 10:08PM
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Mikey wrote:

Right obviously you don't work in the real world. I work in a trim and proper place that's all businessey like and such. And people say stuff like that. And I would put up $100 that says you are a female posting under John, John smith?

So, you're having a difficult time believing a guy would have my set of beliefs?

I'm a guy. I'm married to a woman. She and I share many of the same values. I think there are a lot of other readers of this blog who share similar values too. Men as well. And seriously dude...should it matter? That's a pretty lame dismissal.

I just don't back up that boys mentality. And just because it exists on this blog and in many places (in mine workplace too in the country I live in now--not in Canada), doesn't mean I or anyone else has to go along with it. I do what I can in my own life to deal with it in a respectful way and keep a good vibe with my colleagues.

The same as on a blog like this that I read every day. I'd rather have a respectful chat about this stuff, although I'm not sure how possible that is over the internet. Nevertheless, I read this blog every day--as a fellow oilers fan--and I feel bad when certain things are said. I'm not the only one either. Plenty of other people have posted similar things over the months, but our opinions aren't respected either and are dismissed pretty quickly.

I don't want to troll, but I'm not sure there is another way to enjoy this blog without trying to shut up some of the noise.

Bottom line: there is a ton of other stuff to talk about that is hockey related and positive. I'd like to stick to that and keep away from crude attempts at humor that myself and many other people feel bad about when reading it.

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#25 Czar
October 13 2013, 12:12PM
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Jason,having played the game and seen alot of different coaching strategies in your day,do you think this swarm system is the right one to implement with our talent? At times it's looked effective but man we've had some crazy firedrills on the ice as well. Does or has anyone else really used it at the NHL level with success?

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#26 DSF
October 13 2013, 05:29PM
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BC BOY wrote:

Learning to win is like you getting laid. Its a long and sometimes painful process and sometimes takes a couple years. Just give the oilers some time they are going in the right direction

A couple of years to get laid?

Really?

Need some advice?

Call me.

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#27 Mikey
October 13 2013, 09:05PM
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John wrote:

These are adults in a workplace, and despite whatever so-called sacred lines exist, I don't think acting like that is good for anyone.

I hope more reporters put stuff like that out. It might make it less "safe" to be a total creep in a dressing room, and it won't be such a boys show all the time.

Why not make it less safe for douchey behaviour, and safer for more respectful behaviour, right? That'd be cool to me.

Right obviously you don't work in the real world. I work in a trim and proper place that's all businessey like and such. And people say stuff like that. And I would put up $100 that says you are a female posting under John, John smith?

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#28 Butters
October 13 2013, 02:21PM
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@ Will I agree with everything you said except; "Price and his posts were too much for the Oilers.", Budaj was playing.

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#29 Tango
October 13 2013, 05:47PM
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This is first time for me. I love reading this blog and seeing what others think of our beloved team, but whats up with these none believers like this dsf guy? What a tool! Why is he even on this site? Totally not an Oiler fan but he/she is not a fan. Go hang out at the knuckle head site....please! Isn't there better things for you to do in your mothers basement? But I guess that's what you want, the attention? You just spoil this blog. Just my opinion.

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#30 madjam
October 13 2013, 12:32PM
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We do not have the personnel to run the system effectively , bottom line . Every team figures they have the best system . Our system would have to rely on stellar goaltending every nite . Benching smyth and yak already is not the answer . Carlyle basically said the same thing about benching people to early in the season ! The system will get better ? It may indeed get worse as we have found out over last 3 seasons . We won with Kreuger's system with less personnel some assume ,for over half a season , same cannot be said for new coach Eakins . We are better all claim , then why are we worse results wise than last season ! sounds like more dope hope to me .

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#31 Avatarget
October 13 2013, 12:43PM
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Dan 1919 wrote:

Did you watch Yak play? When he didn't have the puck he wasn't just floating, he was literally standing around on the ice, it actually looked very awkward to see at the NHL level. His sitting is good. He will be better.

So far I haven't seen anything from Yak to justify his first overall selection. I sure hope that changes but the results so far are not encouraging. I am not in panic mode about picking him so high yet, but I am mildly concerned. Guy Lafleur got off to a bit of a slow start and then took off and became a superstar and the same could happen with Yak. Hope he gets it together eventually (sooner is better than later but later is better than never at all). I sure hope we didn't blow a number one overall selection on a player who never arrives.

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#32 Smokey
October 13 2013, 12:58PM
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Noelpm wrote:

Everyone is looking for Goalie options right now. Admittedly I still believe it is too early; however, what is the chance we could get on the phone with the St. Louis Blues in regards to Brian Elliot. What would we have to give up for him? Halak looks back in form and Jake Allen is poised to be their 'next' franchise goalie.

Elliot is terrible. St. Louis is a defensive Jugernaut. I could post wins in that system. I'll take Bryz or Theodore before that guy.

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#33 Geitus Maximus
October 13 2013, 02:04PM
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Avatarget wrote:

So far I haven't seen anything from Yak to justify his first overall selection. I sure hope that changes but the results so far are not encouraging. I am not in panic mode about picking him so high yet, but I am mildly concerned. Guy Lafleur got off to a bit of a slow start and then took off and became a superstar and the same could happen with Yak. Hope he gets it together eventually (sooner is better than later but later is better than never at all). I sure hope we didn't blow a number one overall selection on a player who never arrives.

Remember he's just a kid, but a kid who lit it up the last few games last year. He needs someone to feed him the puck as there isnt a better sniper on this team. He's being benched for not following the system, not because he isnt talented. Yak is pure heart, he wont let us down, but lets not pile up on him and tear down his confidence. He's still the youngest guy on the team. And that takes some patience. Yak is not the reason why the Oil are struggling.

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#34 WhattaMike
October 13 2013, 02:17PM
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@Hayek...

Sorry to tell ya but i am not DSF or NewAgeSystem...or even that silver ballet dude.. Just a guy posting what i see or think about.

Wish ya the best....

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#35 John
October 13 2013, 07:20PM
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Ah Jason, I'm disappointed. You like that creepy stuff from Thorton too, eh?

I love stuff like the "You Can Play" movement in the NHL. It's all about inclusiveness and helping people feel welcome.

But Joe's greasy comments have the opposite intention--they were meant to put a reporter down and make him feel uncomfortable.

You thought that was funny, Jason. Sad, man. The same goes to anyone else laughing at that situation.

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#36 TonyT
October 13 2013, 10:50PM
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@John

While I can appreciate your moral high ground, Strudwick's inclusion of the Thornton/Botchford incident has merit in a hockey blog as he provided an inside look and result from a similar situation. Regardless, of whether Strudwick or others thought it was funny doesn't make the blog irrelevant, maybe irreverent but that time of preaching is best served for a different type of blog all together.

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#37 BC BOY
October 13 2013, 12:38PM
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would someone like robin lehner be available?

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#38 Dave Lumley
October 13 2013, 12:43PM
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Gudke wrote:

Swarm is effective if played properly. But players need to know when to go for i and when not to. If there are 2 players in the zone and ur player is taking one guy to the boards to stay on ur man? Or peace out and hope for the best. Last night with shultz and gordon on the lupul goal is a perfect example. One of them shouldnt have left their man.

i am not a fan of shultz.he doesnt know how to play defense and looks lost. He should have been scrathed with yakupov to deliver a clear mmessage. If the oilers sin shultz at seasons end for more than 4 mill. I offically give up on managment.

It seems that the SWARM might be a bit difficult for our guys to execute. Yet Carlyle and his guys had figured out how to break it up with a late floater coming into the zone.

What's up with that? How come their guys can learn to break up the system over night and ours guys can't learn to execute it with a full camp and 5 games.

Do the trainers or scouts have to add an IQ test at the combine? Just wonderin'

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#39 Noelpm
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Everyone is looking for Goalie options right now. Admittedly I still believe it is too early; however, what is the chance we could get on the phone with the St. Louis Blues in regards to Brian Elliot. What would we have to give up for him? Halak looks back in form and Jake Allen is poised to be their 'next' franchise goalie.

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#40 Smokey
October 13 2013, 01:06PM
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BC BOY wrote:

would someone like robin lehner be available?

Lehner would be awesome. He's their goalie in the wings. He's their Turco to their Belfour. Ottawa is not anywhere near a cap, or needing get rid of a future number 1 goalie. Anderson is awesome, but he's a bandaid. I don't see it happening. Plus Murray is a GM who fleeces bad organizations like the Oilers's on trades, we'd pay dearly.

St. Louis, Anaheim seem like options.

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#41 Geitus Maximus
October 13 2013, 02:24PM
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@Manfly

I think the D is doing alright, take the softy goals away from you know who and they are winning games. Mistakes are always made by all D men in every game. Dub's time is running out before they give bachman and labarbera more tries. Its going to be a very interesting road trip.

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#42 Geitus Maximus
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WhattaMike wrote:

I am one who understands this a new coached team with new systems to learn, and that there have been several player changes and/or serious injuries thus far....and that this takes time to get gelled...However, I for one, am very NOT happy with Dubnyk this season so far (albeit only 5 games the team has played).

Four games in and he has allowed how many already?????? I do not care if he is very polite or great with teammates or with the media. What I care about is that this kid is not a kid no more, not a prospect no more and therefore, at 27 yrs old with more than enough professional games played, Dubnyk should be playing his best games now....not later this year.

I like Dubnyk alot and he can play much much much better....but hey this is the NHL and if he can't stand the pressure to play and be the number 1 guy, then it is time to become either a sturdy backup or get out of the game.

Sounds harsh but it is what it is. A goalie cannot afford a long term slump in any season. This isnt baseball where teams each have 20 something like pitchers to take over games or rotations.

If a kid like Yakupov can be benched then it is time to look at what to do with Dubnyk...bring up Bachman? trade for a goalie? sign someone like Bryz right now for one season? I do not know for sure but now is the time to get started on what to do. I hope Dubnyk can play his best real quick but doing nothing to move him along is frustrating.

Last but not least is what the hell is Chabot teaching our goalies? Maybe he is not a good coach for our guys. I see Dubnyk going down before the shots, not moving out to protect the net, flopping aorund so piucks go underneath and...around the nets and boards... his handling of the puck is terrible. Someone should talk to Chabot about what the heck HE is doing with the goalies. Even Look at what Allaire is doing with Colorados' goalies already....they are winning games and stopping pucks!!!!!!

Totally agree with your comments and I also could add... giving up mouth watering juicy rebounds. The most glaring mistake has to be dropping to his knees before the 1st shot.

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#43 Rama Lama
October 13 2013, 02:41PM
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Avatarget wrote:

So far I haven't seen anything from Yak to justify his first overall selection. I sure hope that changes but the results so far are not encouraging. I am not in panic mode about picking him so high yet, but I am mildly concerned. Guy Lafleur got off to a bit of a slow start and then took off and became a superstar and the same could happen with Yak. Hope he gets it together eventually (sooner is better than later but later is better than never at all). I sure hope we didn't blow a number one overall selection on a player who never arrives.

Using your logic, you would bench RNH, Hall, Eberle, Schultz and everyone else who has made mistakes.

Call it what you want but benching is over rated.......I can see it for veteran players just so they get rest but not for players who are trying to find their game. I think that the only thing Yukapov can be blamed for is trying too hard ......and trying to figure out where he need to be playing this new retarded system Eakins has developed for this team.

So far this system looks really good.......at losing games.

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#44 Manfly
October 13 2013, 02:41PM
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Geitus Maximus wrote:

I think the D is doing alright, take the softy goals away from you know who and they are winning games. Mistakes are always made by all D men in every game. Dub's time is running out before they give bachman and labarbera more tries. Its going to be a very interesting road trip.

I agree, but for DD to become an elite goalie, he has to stop with the softies, and start making the big saves when we need them. he has yet to do this. and it's kind of weird that we didn't seem to even miss Yak not being in the lineup.

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#45 Walter Sobchak
October 13 2013, 05:57PM
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DSF wrote:

A couple of years to get laid?

Really?

Need some advice?

Call me.

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#46 nick
October 13 2013, 07:02PM
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@Rama Lama

I totally agree with this one. Eakins is a laughable. It is not the Dallas Eakins show. He has no idea how to run an NHL team. Who puts Belov and J.Schultz together on a 4 on 4. First off Schultz has been horrible all year and Belov played that 3 on 1 about as bad as can be played. Eakins 25 minute a gam guys are all horrible minus players after 5 games. Learn how to run a bench Eakins and maybe you will one day be more than an AHL coach. Benching of Yakapuv is just horrible.

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#47 John
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Me thinks you are taking this a little too serious.

These are adults in a workplace, and despite whatever so-called sacred lines exist, I don't think acting like that is good for anyone.

I hope more reporters put stuff like that out. It might make it less "safe" to be a total creep in a dressing room, and it won't be such a boys show all the time.

Why not make it less safe for douchey behaviour, and safer for more respectful behaviour, right? That'd be cool to me.

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#48 michael
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Getting another goalie is going to be tough. Trade or sign. The problem lies in dollars available on the cap. Which is not a lot. Then your stuck with DD and Labarbra and ?.

This 3 headed monster will not work but as we have seen already MacT is not afraid to bury contracts on OKC. Eager and Jones.

What a p$%% storm its going to be if DD comes out and cra(& the bed in his next start. The vultures are circling. DD better take a lesson or two from WWE's Undertaker and get off the mat before the count of three.

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#49 Hayek
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WhattaMike wrote:

I am one who understands this a new coached team with new systems to learn, and that there have been several player changes and/or serious injuries thus far....and that this takes time to get gelled...However, I for one, am very NOT happy with Dubnyk this season so far (albeit only 5 games the team has played).

Four games in and he has allowed how many already?????? I do not care if he is very polite or great with teammates or with the media. What I care about is that this kid is not a kid no more, not a prospect no more and therefore, at 27 yrs old with more than enough professional games played, Dubnyk should be playing his best games now....not later this year.

I like Dubnyk alot and he can play much much much better....but hey this is the NHL and if he can't stand the pressure to play and be the number 1 guy, then it is time to become either a sturdy backup or get out of the game.

Sounds harsh but it is what it is. A goalie cannot afford a long term slump in any season. This isnt baseball where teams each have 20 something like pitchers to take over games or rotations.

If a kid like Yakupov can be benched then it is time to look at what to do with Dubnyk...bring up Bachman? trade for a goalie? sign someone like Bryz right now for one season? I do not know for sure but now is the time to get started on what to do. I hope Dubnyk can play his best real quick but doing nothing to move him along is frustrating.

Last but not least is what the hell is Chabot teaching our goalies? Maybe he is not a good coach for our guys. I see Dubnyk going down before the shots, not moving out to protect the net, flopping aorund so piucks go underneath and...around the nets and boards... his handling of the puck is terrible. Someone should talk to Chabot about what the heck HE is doing with the goalies. Even Look at what Allaire is doing with Colorados' goalies already....they are winning games and stopping pucks!!!!!!

NewAgeSys is back.

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#50 ralphy
October 13 2013, 05:21PM
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Terrible team, soft as pillows and back-breakingly bad tending. Hey Mac -T, some of the trades you don't make (Cory S) can be your worst decisions...

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