GDB 6.0: Desperation, this early?

Jonathan Willis
October 14 2013 10:34AM

Yes, it’s far too early in the season to be saying that any of these individual contests are must-win games. It isn’t too early to say the Oilers need to find a way to get some wins. Either fortunately or unfortunately, the situation is much the same in Washington, a team that with a 1-4-0 record is actually a point back of Edmonton.

The Lineup

Once again, Nail Yakupov finds himself on the outs, as per the Oilers’ official Twitter account.

I haven’t seen official word on the defence but assume it remains the same as well, giving the Oilers the following lines for tonight’s game:

  • 1st Line: Taylor Hall – Ryan Nugent-Hopkins – Ales Hemsky
  • 2nd Line: Ryan Smyth – Mark Arcobello – Jordan Eberle
  • 3rd Line: David Perron – Boyd Gordon – Jesse Joensuu
  • 4th Line: Luke Gazdic – Will Acton – Mike Brown
  • 1st Pairing: Ladislav Smid – Jeff Petry
  • 2nd Pairing: Andrew Ference – Nick Schultz
  • 3rd Pairing: Anton Belov – Justin Schultz
  • Goal: Jason LaBarbera

After the game the third line had against Toronto, I had thought Jesse Joensuu might find his way out of the lineup (or better still, on to the fourth line with Mike Brown the scratch) but evidently the head coach feels either that Yakupov on the bench gives the Oilers the best chance to win or that the young player will benefit from another night off. Neither of those seem like particularly sound beliefs to me, but maybe there’s something else going on here.

Opportunity

There’s a great chance here for Jason LaBarbera to take the starting job and run with it. Career-wise, he’s had very good numbers in the backup role for a few seasons now, but was never going to get another opportunity at the starting job unless fortune intervened; with Devan Dubnyk’s struggles it has. Mathieu Garon’s career was in a very similar spot when he came to Edmonton; he ended up providing pretty good goaltending during the Oilers’ late run in 2007-08.

Another opportunity here is the one being afforded to Mark Arcobello. It’s difficult to see where he fits on the Oilers’ roster moving forward: the fourth line has been handed to big men, Arcobello’s skillset is replicated in the top-nine and Sam Gagner will take back his spot at some point. Arcobello has until Gagner gets back to make it impossible for the Oilers to send him down – or at the very least, to make it impossible that he clears waivers. So far, so good.

Finally, if MacTavish does make a big splash, I expect it to be on defence rather than in goal. With the possible exception of Jeff Petry, this has been a suspect group from day one and while all six guys are NHL players every night some of them seem to be in roles they aren’t able to handle.

Predictions!

Game day prediction: The Oilers lose a tight one in overtime, falling 2-1 to Washington.

Obvious game day prediction: The fourth line plays less than six minutes and gets out-shot and out-chanced badly thanks to one shift where they’re caught against Alexander Ovechkin.

Not-so-obvious game day prediction: Just like the game in Toronto, this is a back-and-forth affair, but it turns into a goaltending duel. Both teams have struggled between the pipes but the combined save percentage of both goalies on the night ends up in the 0.960 range.

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Jonathan Willis is Managing Editor of the Nation Network. He also currently writes for the Edmonton Journal's Cult of Hockey, Grantland, and Hockey Prospectus. His work has appeared at theScore, ESPN and Puck Daddy. He was previously founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue. Contact him at jonathan (dot) willis (at) live (dot) ca.
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#201 Greg
October 14 2013, 08:59PM
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HELP NEEDED: why am i addicted to this Oiler hockey garbage. i feel like i'm in this abusive relationship i cant get out of. why do i continue to watch this. the whole organization is so good at selling this crap. i remember when both Toronto and Edmonton started their rebuilds. we picked Hall and they got Kessel. why oh why are we not on the same level. we've had two more first overall draft picks since then for crying out loud! Brian Burke was right Kevin Lowe is an idiot! we should have fired Lowe and got Burke. because it wont be long before Calgary is kicking out a**! i need to get out and save my dignity. my father in law is a bloody leafs fan and i cant even look him in they eye any more.

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#202 Alsker
October 14 2013, 09:01PM
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k wrote:

I used to watch Lowe on a nightly basis and sadly he wasn't all that. Fans forget how mediocre, middle of the road he really was while playing.

No actually we havent forgotten, it only adds to his whole 6Ring BS., as far as Oiler D-men go he is NOT close to the top of my list.

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#203 Jeffff
October 14 2013, 09:01PM
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I'm sure panic has set in, but don't worry Dubnyk maybe the only underrated player on the Oilers

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#204 Alsker
October 14 2013, 09:02PM
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Jeffff wrote:

I'm sure panic has set in, but don't worry Dubnyk maybe the only underrated player on the Oilers

And I thought Ive had too much rum!!!

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#205 Serious Gord
October 14 2013, 09:05PM
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Greg wrote:

HELP NEEDED: why am i addicted to this Oiler hockey garbage. i feel like i'm in this abusive relationship i cant get out of. why do i continue to watch this. the whole organization is so good at selling this crap. i remember when both Toronto and Edmonton started their rebuilds. we picked Hall and they got Kessel. why oh why are we not on the same level. we've had two more first overall draft picks since then for crying out loud! Brian Burke was right Kevin Lowe is an idiot! we should have fired Lowe and got Burke. because it wont be long before Calgary is kicking out a**! i need to get out and save my dignity. my father in law is a bloody leafs fan and i cant even look him in they eye any more.

Come over to the oiler fan dark side - take solace in yet another loss knowing that failure ultimately will force mr Katz' hand and he will fire Lowe and put in a president of hockey ops who is proven nhl quality and who owes nothing to anyone in the organization below him and he can rebuild this joke of a management team root and branch.

At least that's what a dark side oiler fan hopes will happen....

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#206 Cowbell_Feva
October 14 2013, 09:08PM
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I haven't seen too many people fantasizing about Hall needing to be on Team Canada for the Winter Olympics. A good ol' dose of reality is starting to set in on those homers that had on the Oiler-goggles during the summer.

Bad Defense. Horrific Goaltending. Soft as butter forwards. Another coach....same sh*t team and people thought they would be a playoff contender. One, if not two of the wonderkids has to go this season to address the Defense/Goaltending fiasco. Time for change was 2 years ago....time for BOLD moves soon because this is becoming an absolute joke for an organization and there's nothing on the horizon to show that it will change.

Kevin Lowe, look in the mirror and step down. MacT get on the phone.

This is agonizing.

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#207 Kevin
October 14 2013, 09:09PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

He has 6 cup ring's he says he knows how to build a champion.The problem is Katz believes him!!!

Here here to Klowe he truely is the brains behind toilet bowl teams. Bring on another lottery pick. We need some more skilled smurf forwards to truely round out the top 9.

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#208 greg
October 14 2013, 09:11PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Come over to the oiler fan dark side - take solace in yet another loss knowing that failure ultimately will force mr Katz' hand and he will fire Lowe and put in a president of hockey ops who is proven nhl quality and who owes nothing to anyone in the organization below him and he can rebuild this joke of a management team root and branch.

At least that's what a dark side oiler fan hopes will happen....

i just cant believe how much Lowe has been given here. what has he done? really? last place finishes for hight draft picks. i could have done that... me! for like way less money. seriously i'll do it for like 100k a year (plus a bonus if we pick first again)...

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#209 madjam
October 14 2013, 09:12PM
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Does plus minus have any relevance ? At -9 Hopkins in 4 games , Smyth@-5 for 5 , hall @6 -7, Hemsky-8 , J.Schultz-6 , Ference -5 , 4 @-3 . On the positive side Arcobello +4 , Eberle +1 same as 4th line . If nothing else , they point to us going in a negstive direction

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#210 Alsker
October 14 2013, 09:12PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Come over to the oiler fan dark side - take solace in yet another loss knowing that failure ultimately will force mr Katz' hand and he will fire Lowe and put in a president of hockey ops who is proven nhl quality and who owes nothing to anyone in the organization below him and he can rebuild this joke of a management team root and branch.

At least that's what a dark side oiler fan hopes will happen....

Sounds awesome except im pretty sure Lowe is Katz's sith lord in training and will never be replaced until such time that his abilities can be put to use ruining something far greater than a professional sports team...wait till Katz goes into politics..

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#211 TT Boy
October 14 2013, 09:14PM
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What is depressing is that Monahan in Calgary almost has as many points this season as Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle, and Yakupov. I thought Mac T said Eakins was the second coming? Feel pretty bad for Kruger really.

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#212 Greg the Hammer Valentine
October 14 2013, 09:16PM
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@Greg

What about the usual speech about how we saw a lot of good things in the last game and if we stick to the game plan, wins will eventually come? This kind of talk isn't doin' it for you anymore?

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#213 Serious Gord
October 14 2013, 09:19PM
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Alsker wrote:

Sounds awesome except im pretty sure Lowe is Katz's sith lord in training and will never be replaced until such time that his abilities can be put to use ruining something far greater than a professional sports team...wait till Katz goes into politics..

Google Phillip Wrigley.

That's the nightmare scenario re: Katz.

Filthy lucrative franchise, fans that perennially show up and buy tickets and Merch; a local media that rolls over and defends the owner rather than confront him and his sycophantic minions; decades (decades!!) Of on-ice futility.

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#214 Greg
October 14 2013, 09:20PM
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@Greg the Hammer Valentine

maybe... i think they might be turning the corner here. i'll have to tune in next time. i might not even be addicted to oiler hockey here. it might be the Gene "Principeisims"... no matter how bad the hockey is we will always have that

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#215 Johnny Larue
October 14 2013, 09:24PM
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Every scoring chance the other team gets ends up in our net. We outplayed Washington in the first but just can't seem to catch a break that said if things don't turn around soon another season will be flushed

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#216 Batfink
October 14 2013, 09:26PM
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When you are a coach and you make a questionable cut and you are WINNING, then you can give pressers like Eakins. HE hasn't made the hard yards yet, and he's acting like Mike Babcock. Eakins, you expected the players to adapt to your systems. Did you truly believe the rest of the NHL wouldn't?

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#217 Walter Sobchak
October 14 2013, 09:28PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Has an ego, uses Twitter, great reasons to fire a coach.

*facepalm*

As for Yak, just because you disagree with the benching, doesn't mean it's a bad move. Time will tell on that. Dallas is hands with the team and made a decision, what qualifications do you have to say he's wrong?

Have you seen the Oilers record? Trust me.......it's about to get worse.

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#218 outdoorzguy
October 14 2013, 09:29PM
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Crappy team! Lousy coach!! Pathetic management team!!!

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#219 K_Mart
October 14 2013, 09:33PM
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I know strudwick is tearing us apart right now, I know the score was 4-2. But I thought we were the better team. I'd argue that other than the Vancouver game, we were as good, if not better, than the opposition in every game.

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#220 Alsker
October 14 2013, 09:36PM
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All these stats(+/-,etc.), system play theories are useless when your SP is in the low 800's. There's no oops's/mulligans when every mistake/turn over, fanned clearing attempt ends up in the twine. It is impossible to truly judge whats happeneing. Yes we all see the mistakes, what we havent figured out is why the mistake was made. Everyone here asks what Eakins system is, well, how can we critique it if we dont understand it. Frustration,irritation, aggrevation, all exceptable: PANIC is not!!! Well not yet anyways. Fix the GAA and someone please figure out and explain this system so we can bitch about it more accurately.

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#221 Greg
October 14 2013, 09:36PM
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K_Mart wrote:

I know strudwick is tearing us apart right now, I know the score was 4-2. But I thought we were the better team. I'd argue that other than the Vancouver game, we were as good, if not better, than the opposition in every game.

this is the results business. enough saying we're better than the record shows.

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#222 TT Boy
October 14 2013, 09:51PM
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You can all bitch all you want about the goaltending.... And I agree, it stinks BUT we were all fed the Kool-Aid about having an amazing offense. Having a great offense doesn't mean that they outplay the opposition, it means they OUTSCORE the opposition!!

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#223 outdoorzguy
October 14 2013, 09:55PM
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Goodbye Eakins! But the scary thing is MacTavish will be back on the bench. Or worse Lowe (can he screw up any more than he already has by setting the organization back 10 years?) Man this is a terrible organization!

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#224 clyde
October 14 2013, 09:59PM
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Batfink wrote:

When you are a coach and you make a questionable cut and you are WINNING, then you can give pressers like Eakins. HE hasn't made the hard yards yet, and he's acting like Mike Babcock. Eakins, you expected the players to adapt to your systems. Did you truly believe the rest of the NHL wouldn't?

Doesn't seem like these players will accept any coaching or structure.

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#225 madjam
October 14 2013, 09:59PM
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Oilers Frozen in time . Lets do the time warp again .

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#226 Vincheese
October 14 2013, 10:17PM
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Looks like Biron is also on waivers.

Could MacT try finding our number one goalie the same way he built the defence? A whole bunch of average goalies vying for the number one spot couldn't be worse.

Eventually, we will need to trade either one of Yak or Ebs for either a number 1 "D" or a real starter.

Dubnyk, wouldn't have the numbers he did is other teams didn't just shoot at will for the last few seasons. He is not the answer--I can't remember the last time he protected a lead in a close game.

I've been about as faithful to the oil as anyone--and I have my bag at the ready. Lowe needs to go!

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#227 washed up
October 14 2013, 10:17PM
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@Greg

I made a similar comment 5 or 6 threads ago, and got more trashes then props. Funny what a couple more loses will do to the fan base.

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#228 Russ99
October 14 2013, 10:17PM
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clyde wrote:

Doesn't seem like these players will accept any coaching or structure.

I don't think that's the case, but when players who have had success at the NHL level are told that they can't play that way anymore and have to change to a defense-first puck control system, you can see why.

Eakins seems like a good coach, but this isn't the AHL, he needs to adapt to the players as much as the players need to adapt to him. That my way or the highway act won't fly in the bigs.

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#229 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
October 14 2013, 10:18PM
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As a 2nd tier fan I am wondering if the fans who count are seeing the team win? just wondering.

FIRE LOWE FIRE LOWE FIRE LOWE

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#230 Quicksilver ballet
October 14 2013, 10:25PM
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We're in for one of those WTF games tomorrow. Oilers beat the Pens 5-2 in a head scratcher for the last two points they'll earn on this trip.

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#231 SLURVE
October 14 2013, 10:27PM
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One must wonder if MacT caused the demise of Dubnyk with his attempt to acquire Schenider in the June's entry draft. By trying to make a bold move, it started Dubnyk to question his worth and thereby creating doubts and questions. Now the team is struggling, this has a snow ball effect further dropping Dubnyk's confidence and all the while hearing MacT voice in his head "Schneider,Schenider..."

It is somewhat dumbfounded for MacT to pursue Schneider last June given Dubnyk had respectable numbers behind a porous defence last season.

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#232 Devolution
October 14 2013, 10:32PM
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DSF wrote:

Don't really care what you feed.

I'll just keep feeding you the facts.

DSF

I agree that you put up the occasional thought provoking stat, and I have refrained from engaging with you for about three years now but I do have one legitimate question for you.

Why do you come here?

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#233 K_Mart
October 14 2013, 10:32PM
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Greg wrote:

this is the results business. enough saying we're better than the record shows.

I think we're better than a 1-4-1 record. So that's what I'll say. You're right, now matter how good fans may say the team is playing, if we are out of the playoffs... well, we are out of the playoffs. That's all that matters.

But based on what I've seen, I believe this will be a .500, or very close to .500, hockey team by the end of 82 games, and right there in the playoff hunt.

Do you honestly believe our .839 sv% will continue? That is a stat that is simply too horrid to do anything other than get better.

Again, I realize this is a results oriented business and regardless of how things look, if the w's don't show up, the rest is a moot point.

But if this team continues to play as good as it has so far(even with all the mistakes) they will be at, or around, the playoff cut line.

Some of the breakdowns have been bad(Jultz jumps up in the play too early on the Laich play), but there's been far fewer than last year. The turnovers are still there, the mental breakdowns are still there, but they aren't happening as often(by my eye). Besides, all teams have breakdowns every game, not just us. So, it really sucks to have a 1-4-1 record, but it's still too early to panic.

From what I've seen, if our goalies had posted a .900 save% or better instead of a .839 sv% out of the gate for the first 6 games, everyone is singing a different tune.

It's an 82 game season, there will be slumps and winning streaks. They are always magnified in either direction at the beginning of the season, so naturally this slump looks that much worse.

I'll gladly eat crow if we aren't .500 by the 41 game mark.

We are 29th in GAA and 30th in sv%. After seeing Dubnyk play himself into the top 15 for starters in the league for 2 years, I can't see him being the 30th ranked goalie. Sure he could have a bad year, but that would mean finishing maybe 16-24th, not 30th. 30th would be a complete meltdown. Which is very unlikely.

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#234 Fresh Mess
October 14 2013, 10:40PM
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tried to tell you.

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#235 Devolution
October 14 2013, 10:41PM
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K_Mart wrote:

I think we're better than a 1-4-1 record. So that's what I'll say. You're right, now matter how good fans may say the team is playing, if we are out of the playoffs... well, we are out of the playoffs. That's all that matters.

But based on what I've seen, I believe this will be a .500, or very close to .500, hockey team by the end of 82 games, and right there in the playoff hunt.

Do you honestly believe our .839 sv% will continue? That is a stat that is simply too horrid to do anything other than get better.

Again, I realize this is a results oriented business and regardless of how things look, if the w's don't show up, the rest is a moot point.

But if this team continues to play as good as it has so far(even with all the mistakes) they will be at, or around, the playoff cut line.

Some of the breakdowns have been bad(Jultz jumps up in the play too early on the Laich play), but there's been far fewer than last year. The turnovers are still there, the mental breakdowns are still there, but they aren't happening as often(by my eye). Besides, all teams have breakdowns every game, not just us. So, it really sucks to have a 1-4-1 record, but it's still too early to panic.

From what I've seen, if our goalies had posted a .900 save% or better instead of a .839 sv% out of the gate for the first 6 games, everyone is singing a different tune.

It's an 82 game season, there will be slumps and winning streaks. They are always magnified in either direction at the beginning of the season, so naturally this slump looks that much worse.

I'll gladly eat crow if we aren't .500 by the 41 game mark.

We are 29th in GAA and 30th in sv%. After seeing Dubnyk play himself into the top 15 for starters in the league for 2 years, I can't see him being the 30th ranked goalie. Sure he could have a bad year, but that would mean finishing maybe 16-24th, not 30th. 30th would be a complete meltdown. Which is very unlikely.

I agree with everything except the goaltending situation. I think they have to do something. What that might be is clearly up in the air, AHL assignment, AHL call up, trade, whatever. But as has been pointed out many times in the past, it isn't just that they need to score more goals to win, but you can see how it deflates the team when they carry the play for 10 minutes and then a floated bounces twice and finds five hole.

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#236 Devolution
October 14 2013, 10:43PM
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@Devolution

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and then a floater bounces twice and finds five hole

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#237 Devolution
October 14 2013, 10:49PM
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Anyone else find it perplexing that RNH has been back 4 games, has tallied 3 points and is still -9?

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#238 Fresh Mess
October 14 2013, 10:53PM
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Devolution wrote:

DSF

I agree that you put up the occasional thought provoking stat, and I have refrained from engaging with you for about three years now but I do have one legitimate question for you.

Why do you come here?

Probably same reason I do. Was a die hard oiler fan for decades, before weening myself off the koolaid. I still like to follow several teams more in depth and come here hoping for some interesting news..

It is a bit hard to stomach some of the delusional fangirls though. Some people are fans of a team rather than of the sport, and are useless to have rational discussion with. There is still a lot of good stuff here from time to time.

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#239 Mikey
October 14 2013, 11:18PM
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K_Mart wrote:

I think we're better than a 1-4-1 record. So that's what I'll say. You're right, now matter how good fans may say the team is playing, if we are out of the playoffs... well, we are out of the playoffs. That's all that matters.

But based on what I've seen, I believe this will be a .500, or very close to .500, hockey team by the end of 82 games, and right there in the playoff hunt.

Do you honestly believe our .839 sv% will continue? That is a stat that is simply too horrid to do anything other than get better.

Again, I realize this is a results oriented business and regardless of how things look, if the w's don't show up, the rest is a moot point.

But if this team continues to play as good as it has so far(even with all the mistakes) they will be at, or around, the playoff cut line.

Some of the breakdowns have been bad(Jultz jumps up in the play too early on the Laich play), but there's been far fewer than last year. The turnovers are still there, the mental breakdowns are still there, but they aren't happening as often(by my eye). Besides, all teams have breakdowns every game, not just us. So, it really sucks to have a 1-4-1 record, but it's still too early to panic.

From what I've seen, if our goalies had posted a .900 save% or better instead of a .839 sv% out of the gate for the first 6 games, everyone is singing a different tune.

It's an 82 game season, there will be slumps and winning streaks. They are always magnified in either direction at the beginning of the season, so naturally this slump looks that much worse.

I'll gladly eat crow if we aren't .500 by the 41 game mark.

We are 29th in GAA and 30th in sv%. After seeing Dubnyk play himself into the top 15 for starters in the league for 2 years, I can't see him being the 30th ranked goalie. Sure he could have a bad year, but that would mean finishing maybe 16-24th, not 30th. 30th would be a complete meltdown. Which is very unlikely.

Interesting. Who are you? Tell Dubnyk to stop thinking, and just play. Hell tell him to go play a drop in game just to have some fun. It looks like he needs to have some fun. I hope he isn't being alienated by the team.

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#240 Quicksilver ballet
October 14 2013, 11:21PM
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Oiler fans worst fears have become reality. The rebuild has turned into an Infinibuild.

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#241 Devolution
October 14 2013, 11:36PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Probably same reason I do. Was a die hard oiler fan for decades, before weening myself off the koolaid. I still like to follow several teams more in depth and come here hoping for some interesting news..

It is a bit hard to stomach some of the delusional fangirls though. Some people are fans of a team rather than of the sport, and are useless to have rational discussion with. There is still a lot of good stuff here from time to time.

The Oilers are a puzzle though. In 2009 it was obvious why they were bad, they had no good players. Then they had good players but an apparently bad coach. Now? They have pretty good players, Eakins, who I think it a good coach, and they are still bad.

Although, results aside, I do think they are better than they have been. Those horrific defensive lapses are fewer than before.

They should have won more than they have lost this year. Is it time to pull the pin on a goalie trade? I think probably not, but man, it is frustrating.

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#242 The Last Big Bear
October 14 2013, 11:36PM
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I have no consolation for you Oilers fans. It is as bad as you think it is.

I think dumping Dubnyk in a panic trade would be a very very bad decision, but it is a distinct possibility. MacT's decisions have not been very predictable so far.

Like I said, I have no consolation for you.

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#243 Sidney Frosby
October 14 2013, 11:40PM
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Freightening that the coach seems fit to play the 4th line against oveshkin's line....

I felt that Yaks would have a good game against his counterpart Ovi tonight ....had he played...benched for second game while J.shultz continues his horrific defensive play...

Starts the 3rd with the 4th line.... Continually plays Brown in place of Eager...Eager has at least scored 10 goals in an Nhl season...

Our PK is terrible as "skilled forwards are being used' and not penalty killers ( if we have any) ... It would be understandable if we needed to use Hall and Hemsky on the PK to keep them in the game or get some offence when we are down 4-1... But our first PK of the night looked like our first line....

The coach is trying a system that doesn't work unless you have Toews, Kopitar, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Richards..... We have one way scoters for the most part.. RNH, Gags, Hall, and Perron make sense on the PK.... Hemsky and Eberle don't

Poor coaching inToronto game, even more poor coaching in this game....

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#244 #YakCityGettingScrewedOverByCoach&Mgmty
October 14 2013, 11:42PM
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I haven't seen too many people fantasizing about Hall needing to be on Team Canada for the Winter Olympics. A good ol' dose of reality is starting to set in on those homers that had on the Oiler-goggles during the summer.

Bad Defense. Horrific Goaltending. Soft as butter forwards. Another coach....same sh*t team and people thought they would be a playoff contender. One, if not two of the wonderkids has to go this season to address the Defense/Goaltending fiasco. Time for change was 2 years ago....time for BOLD moves soon because this is becoming an absolute joke for an organization and there's nothing on the horizon to show that it will change.

Kevin Lowe, look in the mirror and step down. MacT get on the phone.

This is agonizing.

cosign

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#245 jbogus
October 15 2013, 12:46AM
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Long time listener (ok found site last year) and now on the way to being happily buzzed - what breaks my balls comes back to the salary cap, future benefit of value and the long term promise that evades us year on year on year.

My folks just visited me in aus and my favorite gift was Oiler board shorts and my dad asked me why do I care about the oilers -and sadly I just do. And will do.

Back to my balls, they're broken - we're smarter than philly, and slats in nry - I can't accept the dollars we spend for lack of results. Had google the cap for the sabres today to make me feel ok with results vs what monies being dished out.

Won't rant, as that's not my intent, rather just tired of the chasing the end if the rainbow so to speak.

Like many, no longer can sit without comment.

Jbogus

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#246 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
October 15 2013, 07:25AM
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In other words, the Caps are averaging 37 SOG at home and I would think it's reasonable to wager they'll get close to 40 SOG tonight versus the Oilers.

missed on this one big time.

you should have known the oilers would outshoot the mighty caps, only to be let down by goaltending and huge defensive blunders once again.

it is step 4 of the Edmonton Oiler "always suck" handbook. Written by Kevin Lowe, illustrations by Jack Michaels

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#247 MMAX
October 16 2013, 06:01AM
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I think old Katz had better take a step back and really take a hard look at where his team is headed. He's a smart guy...right? This old boys club joke of a management team has gotten him nowhere. Katz, you're a had ass business man that has to make hard decisions, so why not start at the top with K-Lowe? Oh, wait...friends can't fire friends can they?

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