YAK CITY TURMOIL?

Lowetide
October 14 2013 07:27AM

Nail Yakupov was a healthy scratch on Saturday night, and it appears some members of the family took it harder than others.

Eronko is certainly a credible source, and it's important to know this is out there. Having said that, it's also important to keep in mind that the player hasn't reacted in this way and that Dads have overreacted in the past. Yakupov DID express himself yesterday (via Joanne Ireland)

  • Yakupov: “I wasn’t happy about it last night. You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I’m not playing, so I’m not playing. I’m not happy about it. I just want to play every game."
  • More Yakupov: “I’m not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don’t like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don’t think it’s my game.”

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

This is a power struggle, youth v experience, old v young, and it will end with Yakupov playing more of a team game and working within a team structure.

How do I know this? History. History tells us that if the inmates are running the show you don't have much. Dallas Eakins is no doubt fighting a lot of headstrong youth these days, but that's his job and he can't and won't back down.

Play the system. Do the job. Nail Yakupov won't win this battle, but he'll come out the other side a better man.

UPDATE

A very good statement from the agent. Someone needs to talk to Daddy Yakupov, but I understand him. :-)

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#101 Rotten Ron
October 14 2013, 08:59AM
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MessyEH! wrote:

I had never considered the Olympics. This is also a reason to have faith in Yak.

As for Yak not returning to Sarnia. Pretty easy decision if you ask me. Play for the Sting and earn 200 a month. Or head to my home town and make 100's of thousands a month. Your a real meathead if you think it was for any other reason. Besides, the kid was too good for the CHL.

Easy decision? Break a contract you signed cause things arent going your way? He knew the rules when he decided to come over. To good for the CHL? What if he decides hes too good for the Oilers, will you be glued to a grainy khl feed watching him slam his stick on the ice after every missed shot or slide across the ice in an empty arena after he scores a goal to tie a meaningless game?

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#102 The Soup Fascist
October 14 2013, 09:26AM
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MAC962 wrote:

Mr Ference, you have your mission, pull the Yak aside and you have the Chat, you are the Captain. And if it happens to be Yak really acting up ? to Philly you you go for Sean C and Braydon Coborne...

And how would you handle the pesky little $5 million differential in base salary CAP issues the Oilers would have to deal with if such a trade were or occur .....??

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#103 Serious Gord
October 14 2013, 09:31AM
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Rotten Ron wrote:

Breet Hull played a full season in the minors after college and was 23 years old his rookie year. A much different siuation. At the time in the league when him and Yzerman were rookies defensive responsobility wasnt as important to coaches. Both had their coaches intervene later in there career when the game had evolved.

Yes, i am aware of all that. But when the coaches "intervention" happened, did it involve benching the player?

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#104 Rama Lama
October 14 2013, 12:01PM
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Naky wrote:

@Rama Lama

You're not getting what he's trying to say. He's trying to say that while our best offensive forwards have been absolute train wrecks defensively, they're still at least trying hard. Even if they're not playing the system 100% right, they're still flying around, fighting battles, and landing hits. Dubnyk's not been great, but he's still fighting hard to get out of his slump.

Yakupov? Clearly you're not watching the same games I am, because Yakupov's been floating around out there and cherry picking. He described his own play with his own words! He's not making hits, he's not even trying to forecheck, heck, he's barely trying to cover his man at times. All he does is try to stay open so he can use his one timer in the offensive zone or take off flying with the puck after someone else did all the hard work in the defensive. This wouldn't even be so bad if he was actually scoring goals but he's not. So he gets benched even though the other kids aren't necessarily better - but they're trying.

Down the road, does Eakins sit Hall if he keeps giving prime time, gift wrapped turnovers every time he single handedly tries to split the D (and fails 90% of the time) as he so loves to do? I honestly hope so. But it's Yak's turn this time and he's kinda deserved it.

I will say though... two games is ballsy. This second game feels more like a punishment. However, a warranted one if Yakupov said those same words to Eakins about not going to change his game.

David Perron had a horrible game, so did Jossenu, so did J. Schultz, so did RNH........do you bench them too?

I do believe in benching but if not done properly and without bias it totally disrupts the inner working of the team. I suspect everyone is looking over their shoulder every time they make a mistake........can you say squeeeeeeze.

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#105 MessyEH!
October 14 2013, 12:08PM
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Maybe, this second sitting is to teach Yak Sr to stfu.

Or..... another boneheaded move by a boneheaded management team.

I wonder how the rest of the roster feels about Yak being sat. If it's really warranted they would be fine with it. If it's not...

Eakins may want to hold off with the unpacking.

A coach needs to win. If the system does not produce within 20 more games. I think the Oilers would start second guessing Eakins.

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#106 Oil town on E
October 14 2013, 12:10PM
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This just in, Yak will be sittin in the press box again tonight !

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#107 Hayek
October 14 2013, 12:33PM
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Dog Train wrote:

Heaven forbid if a coach actually has the guts to sit one of our young guns down for a few games. Eakins is getting paid to try and win games. Accountability has been lacking for the Oilers for too long now. Eakins is bringing accountability back to the lineup. I know people will say that there are other forwards who aren't playing well defensively so why don't players like Eberle or Hall get benched? Because at this moment, they are better players than Yakupov and give us a better chance of winning. Smyth has 3 goals already this year so taking him out right now isn't the right move. Joensuu brings more intangibles to the lineup other than scoring and having Yak replace one of the fourth line guys will do nothing for his confidence. The kid will get his chance soon enough and when he does, he needs to prove that he deserves to be in the lineup each and every night.

If only this was true, it would make sense.

Yakupov outshoots, and outchances the opposition this year at the 2nd highest rate on the team at even strength.

While someone like Smyth has played pretty terrible for 3 games this year, and has gotten amazing linemates, and has gotten very lucky in his goals (good for him, but there is no doubt that his production is unsustainable).

I know most people see 0G 0A 0P for Yakupov and assume he is playing bad. The truth is he has been simply amazing this year in outplaying the opposition. The points will come soon enough.

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#108 Oiler Al
October 14 2013, 03:12PM
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No bigger floater on the team than Hemsky. Mr Fly By. He wasn't traded because old 6 rings made sure the deal would not be approved no matter what. It was Lowe that gave #83 the 2 x $5 million contract, and not Tambelini.

PS.. Nothing wrong with Yak taking a seat for a night.... someone has to take a shot at figuring out the SWARM system, because sure as heck no one else can.

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#109 Ryan2
October 14 2013, 04:55PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

No bigger floater on the team than Hemsky. Mr Fly By. He wasn't traded because old 6 rings made sure the deal would not be approved no matter what. It was Lowe that gave #83 the 2 x $5 million contract, and not Tambelini.

PS.. Nothing wrong with Yak taking a seat for a night.... someone has to take a shot at figuring out the SWARM system, because sure as heck no one else can.

Hemsky is far from a problem on this year's team. You want Mr. Fly By, that would be Hall or Ebs up front, and JSchultz on the back end.....

That being said, it is interesting to see how much better the players adapted to Kruger's system vs. the one Eakins is trying to implement, whatever SWARM is supposed to be. To be honest, it looks like a system that is better suited to the AHL rather than the NHL. Right now Eakins gets a bit of a mulligan for the swiss cheese like roster MacT has provided him (how is that trade for another small skill guy in Perron working so far?), but unless the team turns around that will only carry him so far.

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#110 Rotten Ron
October 14 2013, 10:02AM
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MessyEH! wrote:

You mean the contract the IIHF ruled was illegal. Or the one the CHL disputed, not Sarnia. Why did Sarnia not dispute it? Because, they knew it was what the kid intended to do. Personally, after last season, or lack of season. I surprised more Russians are not splitting.

Now I ask you. What if you were his family? Son, go play in Canada in the CHL, where your too good of a player, where you earn nothing but an allowance. (Less than a welfare recipient, less than minimum wage. ) Or would you say come home. You'll earn more, your wage is better, it's insurable. And your mother misses you. I know what choice I would make. And it's not even close.

Meathead=dead from the shoulders up.

Sounds about right.

So I will ask you again, how would you react if he was to leave the oilers? Maybe he gets homesick this winter and wants to go home. Maybe a team over there offers him 6 million rubles. Cant expect him to stay over here for a measly entry level deal can we? I played junior A until I was 20, we didnt get a fraction of the perks they got in the CHL and I never went without anything, i was working part time living for free,my friends were paying bills and rent working full time, didnt seem too horrible. Then I played CIS where I got absolutley nothing, I guess sticking around for no money would make me a meathead but I didnt have the options he had.

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#111 Craig1981
October 14 2013, 10:37AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

A similar thing happened to Brett hull.

But in either case did the coach bench the player after barely fifty games in the NHL?

I don't know, but it doesn't matter. The article was about a rift between a coach and a player.

It appears from this article it's Yak not wanting to play Easkin's style. If it was he was trying and having a hard time adjusting that would be different. And who would you take out of the lineup for Yak? He had to sit someone.

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#112 godot10
October 14 2013, 12:03PM
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Deke Rivers wrote:

Wow, I can't believe how much support there is for Yak. We've complained as a group of fans, not so much about the results the last few years, but the lack of effort and accountability.

You can analyse Eakins style all you want but the reality is the numbers are better in the categories just about everyone wanted improvement (hits, shots, faceoffs, chances, effort, and accountability) With the exception of wins and some systems tinkering, he's delivered and it should get better.

There is NO room for any player who doesn't buy into the system. Yak isn't Gretzky, the only player allowed to float. Even Crosby shows hustle out there.

And Dubnyk's issues are COMPLETELY different. Yak's punishment is about effort and systems. Not about production.

The "better" are all stats accumulated against the lousy Eastern Conference, which the Oilers didn't play at all last year.

The stats against the Canucks, the Oilers only "real" Western Conference game, sucked.

The Western Conference, apart from the Oilers, have been laying waste to the Eastern Conference.

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#113 hags9k
October 14 2013, 12:28PM
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The Daddy Yak'l make ya. JUMP JUMP Cory Cross'l make ya. JUMP JUMP

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#114 Marshall Law
October 14 2013, 11:23PM
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Cowbell_Feva wrote:

Yakupov played pretty good with Galchenyuk in the OHL, and got a ton of points in garbage time at the end of last season, but why so much love for him??

To say he is not a floater is rediculous. His defensive game is brutal. So are a lot of the Oilers, but its not like he is bringing anything to the offensive side of the puck either.

A young Russian kid, drafted high, that isn't translating to the NHL. Weird, I have heard of these things happening. Ask Columbus about it. How about Pavel Brendl?

And he needs to play with offensive guys in order to produce? Sure it helps, but what I see is a guy with a great one-timer, and not a whole pile else.

I would trade him before any of the other "super" kids. Maybe its just me, and maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen much from him to make me think that he is the answer to the Oilers problems....not by a mile.

Not translating to the NHL level?

He was the team's leading goal scorer last year.

How quickly they forget...

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#115 DrDave
October 14 2013, 11:35PM
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Plain and simple Yak should be getting the minutes Smyth has gotten if we want this kid to snap out of this slump. He is going to be a huge piece of this team building into a contender and Eakins is just proving he is in over his head.

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#116 Death Metal Nightmare
October 15 2013, 03:11AM
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christ, this team is dumb. it's getting very disappointing how they put faith into Dead Horses while killing their live ones.

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#117 Hair bag
October 15 2013, 07:56AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

Hemsky is far from a problem on this year's team. You want Mr. Fly By, that would be Hall or Ebs up front, and JSchultz on the back end.....

That being said, it is interesting to see how much better the players adapted to Kruger's system vs. the one Eakins is trying to implement, whatever SWARM is supposed to be. To be honest, it looks like a system that is better suited to the AHL rather than the NHL. Right now Eakins gets a bit of a mulligan for the swiss cheese like roster MacT has provided him (how is that trade for another small skill guy in Perron working so far?), but unless the team turns around that will only carry him so far.

Perron is a huge upgrade on Paarvi.....

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#118 LOIL99
October 15 2013, 09:45AM
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The one comment in this article that jumped out at me was "I am not going to change". That alone should be a HUGE flashing red light to management. A 19 year old saying he "wont change" how he plays the game when he clearly lacks many of the skills required in the NHL?? That's not good...

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#119 Taylor Gang
October 14 2013, 09:05AM
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Woodguy wrote:

Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance Spoke with Igor Larionov about Nail Yakupov KHL rumors: "Not even a single thought to go to the KHL at this moment. Not even a single one."

Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 11m @EdmontonOilers Head Coach Dallas Eakins had a brief convo with Yakupov and then YAK’s step picked up….lol..my guess is that he is in!

Everyone cool?

Everyone needs to be like a little Fonzie and take a deep breath.

So... You're saying it was just a rumor? Oh THANK GOD, I thought he was actually going to the KHL after one game sitting... Not

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#121 RMH
October 14 2013, 02:52PM
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Katzhater wrote:

It's only 5 games into the season and the oilers are already confirming their status as a disgrace to professional sports.

P.S. Mactavish is not smart. Last man to not wear a helmet in the NHL.

I don't remember MacTavish sustaining a head injury.

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#122 Patrick Miranda
October 14 2013, 09:53PM
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Manfly wrote:

overreactions all around. one game he's a healthy scratch and the kid might come back to Russia? Igor is no different than any other Russian involved with hockey over there...first sign of anything unusual, and all of a sudden there's a problem and he might come home, and daddy saw a problem way back in the summer...yeah, like maybe the Oilers hired a coach that finally will make the players accountable for their on ice performance, and if they can't do the job, they sit. kid needs to learn to play as he's asked to and if he doesn't, then he won't be in the lineup. complete garbage from Igor and total overreaction by daddy, who looks like he may be a problem the Oilers may have to continually deal with.

Would be true if the other two first round picks who are in the top five worst plus-minus in the league sat ... even during a period let alone a game. The turn-over queen is now second on team in avg ice time behind the Nuge, who himself is having his worst defensive season of his career.

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#123 Cowbell_Feva
October 14 2013, 10:53PM
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Yakupov played pretty good with Galchenyuk in the OHL, and got a ton of points in garbage time at the end of last season, but why so much love for him??

To say he is not a floater is rediculous. His defensive game is brutal. So are a lot of the Oilers, but its not like he is bringing anything to the offensive side of the puck either.

A young Russian kid, drafted high, that isn't translating to the NHL. Weird, I have heard of these things happening. Ask Columbus about it. How about Pavel Brendl?

And he needs to play with offensive guys in order to produce? Sure it helps, but what I see is a guy with a great one-timer, and not a whole pile else.

I would trade him before any of the other "super" kids. Maybe its just me, and maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen much from him to make me think that he is the answer to the Oilers problems....not by a mile.

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#124 Allycatx
October 15 2013, 12:35PM
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Yak has to be defensively responsible to play people , sitting out is ok . Don't Panic , they are playing decent hockey . Bad goal takes away momentum , it will all come together , also enough on Eakins , 5 games does not make a season , calm down

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#125 james_dean
October 14 2013, 10:40AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

He'll need a long stick to score from the press box. It's Yak Sitty again tonight.

I hate to speculate but against fellow countryman ovi,

Maybe he had bad body language or said something to coach.

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#126 Avatarget
October 14 2013, 08:27PM
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Jonas wrote:

Everyone who says this is warranted and Yaks is making this too personal. Why the double standard? Hall has been awful defensively the worst on the team by a long shot from the top six with his turnovers. He gets a free pass. As does Eberle and RNH. Okay fine RNH has to play no matter what given the shortage at centre but why the other skilled wingers getting a pass?

The optics look awful cause its the one Russian player and i guarantee his Russian buddies are texting him right now filling his head with all madness about the discrimination hell face. Eg they think youre lazy they think you have a bad attitude Hall can get away with murder and you need to score every game.

Dallas should sit Eberle next game as hes done nothing the entire season except last game against Toronto. Be consistent.

Pretty hard to bench a guy who had a good last game.

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