YAK CITY TURMOIL?

Lowetide
October 14 2013 07:27AM

Nail Yakupov was a healthy scratch on Saturday night, and it appears some members of the family took it harder than others.

Eronko is certainly a credible source, and it's important to know this is out there. Having said that, it's also important to keep in mind that the player hasn't reacted in this way and that Dads have overreacted in the past. Yakupov DID express himself yesterday (via Joanne Ireland)

  • Yakupov: “I wasn’t happy about it last night. You can say a million words about getting better but coach says I’m not playing, so I’m not playing. I’m not happy about it. I just want to play every game."
  • More Yakupov: “I’m not going to change but maybe play better without the puck, or forecheck more, but I love playing with the puck. I really don’t like skating all the time, and forechecking, and hitting somebody every shift. I don’t think it’s my game.”

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

This is a power struggle, youth v experience, old v young, and it will end with Yakupov playing more of a team game and working within a team structure.

How do I know this? History. History tells us that if the inmates are running the show you don't have much. Dallas Eakins is no doubt fighting a lot of headstrong youth these days, but that's his job and he can't and won't back down.

Play the system. Do the job. Nail Yakupov won't win this battle, but he'll come out the other side a better man.

UPDATE

A very good statement from the agent. Someone needs to talk to Daddy Yakupov, but I understand him. :-)

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#101 TDSM31
October 14 2013, 11:10AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

I'm not sure you're watching the same game as Eakins either.

Yakupov isn't being scratched because he hasn't scored. He's been scratched because he's been a total freelancer within the system the coach expects him to play, compounded by the fact he's getting nothing done. Big difference.

Dubnyk's results, like Yakupov's, haven't been good enough, but unless you're suggesting he isn't trying to stop the puck, we're not talking about the need for an attitude adjustment, as we are with Yakupov.

Although Dubnyk appears to be very well liked and hasn't shown the same type of rebellious attitude of Yakupov, he's still in need of an adjustment nonetheless. Dubnyk's body language after goals is not what you want to see in a goalie...it really looks like he gets down on himself. No room for that at this level. Guys get put in the press box for various reasons and Dubynk should not be immune from this.

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#102 godot10
October 14 2013, 12:03PM
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Deke Rivers wrote:

Wow, I can't believe how much support there is for Yak. We've complained as a group of fans, not so much about the results the last few years, but the lack of effort and accountability.

You can analyse Eakins style all you want but the reality is the numbers are better in the categories just about everyone wanted improvement (hits, shots, faceoffs, chances, effort, and accountability) With the exception of wins and some systems tinkering, he's delivered and it should get better.

There is NO room for any player who doesn't buy into the system. Yak isn't Gretzky, the only player allowed to float. Even Crosby shows hustle out there.

And Dubnyk's issues are COMPLETELY different. Yak's punishment is about effort and systems. Not about production.

The "better" are all stats accumulated against the lousy Eastern Conference, which the Oilers didn't play at all last year.

The stats against the Canucks, the Oilers only "real" Western Conference game, sucked.

The Western Conference, apart from the Oilers, have been laying waste to the Eastern Conference.

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#103 Darrell
October 14 2013, 12:10PM
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I read no line-up changes tonight except the pulled Dubie ? That means Yak sits again ?

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#104 mlcsellil
October 14 2013, 03:33PM
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Just wondering.......If Yak is sitting tonight ONLY because Eakins liked the line combinations and their synergy, what happens to Yak if the Oil play the same type of game tonight in Washington? I smell a bad stink and I think it smells like phone wires burning. Shame on the Oil if this is the case. We would like to see Yak play in the city he was drafted

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#105 Jonas
October 14 2013, 07:07PM
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kawi460 wrote:

I no expert but Yak seems to be getting lost in the shuffle with all the young small skilled wingers. Would it hurt to move one of them and good prospect for a stud young dman? Seth Jones could be a good fit. Plus the Preds could use a top 6 winger with good potential.

Nail is not a small winger.

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#106 Nina Russo
October 14 2013, 09:48PM
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mlcsellil wrote:

Ordinarily , when a player is scratched 1 game, it is to see his mistakes and learn what he needs to do better. When a player is scratched more than that, (Peckman, Fistric Whitney. Jones PRV, Omark.....), plans are in the works. I sincerely hope Yak is not being considered as a chip to move in any type of trade. I don't care what might come back, Yak can't be sacrificed. There is no way in hell everyone else on the team is playing better than Yak. Let Eakins sit someone else. If is Eakins intention is to send a message, I got it. The Oilers are going to cost us Yakupov in a trade.

The first person who should be scratched right now -- the "healthiest" scratch available -- is Eakins himself. The goals against is an embarrassment. If the system wasn't ready , coaches fault for not using the preseason properly. If the line combinations aren't producing (defensively), coaches fault. If players are turning pucks over (Hall, Nuge, Hemsky, Smyth, Shultz ....), coaches fault. I have never been more unable to defend the integrity of the team more than right now. As a fan that is the ultimate low. You know the assets are there but you just cannot defend their current utilization. It would appear that for all the hype about this new coach, he forgot that he was supposed to lead by example. Time that either Eakins puts his ego aside or he is shown the door.

As bad as the individual players are playing, the fact of the matter is that by letting them play as he does he is facilitating this nightmare. Enough is enough. Yak sits or plays with fourth line plugs, while Smyth plays top six minutes. You know it's bad when even the pundits in TO make jokes about it.

Why is Colrado successful while Edmonton struggles -- it's all about asset management, a tale of two coaches.

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#107 Cowbell_Feva
October 14 2013, 10:53PM
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Yakupov played pretty good with Galchenyuk in the OHL, and got a ton of points in garbage time at the end of last season, but why so much love for him??

To say he is not a floater is rediculous. His defensive game is brutal. So are a lot of the Oilers, but its not like he is bringing anything to the offensive side of the puck either.

A young Russian kid, drafted high, that isn't translating to the NHL. Weird, I have heard of these things happening. Ask Columbus about it. How about Pavel Brendl?

And he needs to play with offensive guys in order to produce? Sure it helps, but what I see is a guy with a great one-timer, and not a whole pile else.

I would trade him before any of the other "super" kids. Maybe its just me, and maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen much from him to make me think that he is the answer to the Oilers problems....not by a mile.

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#109 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
October 14 2013, 09:08AM
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Over re-YAK-ting, eh? Eh?

I'll let myself out...

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#111 Rotten Ron
October 14 2013, 09:22AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

A similar thing happened to Brett hull.

But in either case did the coach bench the player after barely fifty games in the NHL?

Breet Hull played a full season in the minors after college and was 23 years old his rookie year. A much different siuation. At the time in the league when him and Yzerman were rookies defensive responsobility wasnt as important to coaches. Both had their coaches intervene later in there career when the game had evolved.

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#112 Robin Brownlee
October 14 2013, 09:25AM
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A young player as talented as Yakupov isn't going to like being scratched no matter what nationality he is. He shouldn't be happy. No need to read more into it.

What matters now is how Yakupov reacts - specifically, that he understands he is expected to play the way his coach tells him to and to do it within the system the coaching staff has put in place.

If Eakins, be he right or wrong in his tactical approach, allows Yakupov to say, "No, I'm going to do things my way no matter what you say," then he's finished as coach.

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#113 The Soup Fascist
October 14 2013, 09:26AM
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MAC962 wrote:

Mr Ference, you have your mission, pull the Yak aside and you have the Chat, you are the Captain. And if it happens to be Yak really acting up ? to Philly you you go for Sean C and Braydon Coborne...

And how would you handle the pesky little $5 million differential in base salary CAP issues the Oilers would have to deal with if such a trade were or occur .....??

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#114 ed in edmonton
October 14 2013, 09:35AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

A similar thing happened to Brett hull.

But in either case did the coach bench the player after barely fifty games in the NHL?

I recall Hull was not an every game player in Cowtown for his 1st couple of years. So, yes he would be benched frequently and get spot duty many other nights.

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#115 Rotten Ron
October 14 2013, 10:02AM
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MessyEH! wrote:

You mean the contract the IIHF ruled was illegal. Or the one the CHL disputed, not Sarnia. Why did Sarnia not dispute it? Because, they knew it was what the kid intended to do. Personally, after last season, or lack of season. I surprised more Russians are not splitting.

Now I ask you. What if you were his family? Son, go play in Canada in the CHL, where your too good of a player, where you earn nothing but an allowance. (Less than a welfare recipient, less than minimum wage. ) Or would you say come home. You'll earn more, your wage is better, it's insurable. And your mother misses you. I know what choice I would make. And it's not even close.

Meathead=dead from the shoulders up.

Sounds about right.

So I will ask you again, how would you react if he was to leave the oilers? Maybe he gets homesick this winter and wants to go home. Maybe a team over there offers him 6 million rubles. Cant expect him to stay over here for a measly entry level deal can we? I played junior A until I was 20, we didnt get a fraction of the perks they got in the CHL and I never went without anything, i was working part time living for free,my friends were paying bills and rent working full time, didnt seem too horrible. Then I played CIS where I got absolutley nothing, I guess sticking around for no money would make me a meathead but I didnt have the options he had.

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#116 washed up
October 14 2013, 10:55AM
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My take is Oilers are trying to drive up Hemsky's stock value around the league. Once he is gone via trade, Yakupov can slide into a first or second line role.

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#117 nunyour
October 14 2013, 11:59AM
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He's benched and he's pissed about it,the rest is the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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#118 Craig1981
October 14 2013, 12:32PM
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godot10 wrote:

Yzerman was in hus late twenties and a mature hockey player. Not a 20-year old.

Scotty Bowman was a multi-Stanley Cup winning coach, not a moderately successful AHL coach with a good publicist.

What difference does it make if he was early or late 20s? Everyone needs to buy into the teams system

So unless you have won 9 Stanley Cup you can't develop players?

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#119 Wax Man Riley
October 14 2013, 01:07PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

The beginning of the end of Yakupov in Edmonton. Eakins has made his own bed, hope he sleeps well in it.

Must be close to official now, the Oil should've taken Galchenyuk. Oilers should still be okay if Hall and RNH work out.

The move he should've made was to get Bachman up here from OKC to sit Dubnyk.

Friggen rookie coaches.....

You have said it about every player on the team: "When are they going to be asking for a trade?"

20 year old players don't ask for a trade.

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#120 MessyEH!
October 14 2013, 01:40PM
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Maybe Hemsky is on his way out. He has actually impressed me on the PK. He can kill alot of time carrying the puck and dipsy-doodling.he also seems to keep the other team honest on the D end. If they are shopping Hemsky, I am sure there are some scouts raising eyebrows about MAcrobella.

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#121 Patrick Miranda
October 14 2013, 09:53PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

overreactions all around. one game he's a healthy scratch and the kid might come back to Russia? Igor is no different than any other Russian involved with hockey over there...first sign of anything unusual, and all of a sudden there's a problem and he might come home, and daddy saw a problem way back in the summer...yeah, like maybe the Oilers hired a coach that finally will make the players accountable for their on ice performance, and if they can't do the job, they sit. kid needs to learn to play as he's asked to and if he doesn't, then he won't be in the lineup. complete garbage from Igor and total overreaction by daddy, who looks like he may be a problem the Oilers may have to continually deal with.

Would be true if the other two first round picks who are in the top five worst plus-minus in the league sat ... even during a period let alone a game. The turn-over queen is now second on team in avg ice time behind the Nuge, who himself is having his worst defensive season of his career.

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#122 Marshall Law
October 14 2013, 11:23PM
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Cowbell_Feva wrote:

Yakupov played pretty good with Galchenyuk in the OHL, and got a ton of points in garbage time at the end of last season, but why so much love for him??

To say he is not a floater is rediculous. His defensive game is brutal. So are a lot of the Oilers, but its not like he is bringing anything to the offensive side of the puck either.

A young Russian kid, drafted high, that isn't translating to the NHL. Weird, I have heard of these things happening. Ask Columbus about it. How about Pavel Brendl?

And he needs to play with offensive guys in order to produce? Sure it helps, but what I see is a guy with a great one-timer, and not a whole pile else.

I would trade him before any of the other "super" kids. Maybe its just me, and maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen much from him to make me think that he is the answer to the Oilers problems....not by a mile.

Not translating to the NHL level?

He was the team's leading goal scorer last year.

How quickly they forget...

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#123 DrDave
October 14 2013, 11:35PM
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Plain and simple Yak should be getting the minutes Smyth has gotten if we want this kid to snap out of this slump. He is going to be a huge piece of this team building into a contender and Eakins is just proving he is in over his head.

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#124 Death Metal Nightmare
October 15 2013, 03:11AM
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christ, this team is dumb. it's getting very disappointing how they put faith into Dead Horses while killing their live ones.

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#125 Hair bag
October 15 2013, 07:56AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

Hemsky is far from a problem on this year's team. You want Mr. Fly By, that would be Hall or Ebs up front, and JSchultz on the back end.....

That being said, it is interesting to see how much better the players adapted to Kruger's system vs. the one Eakins is trying to implement, whatever SWARM is supposed to be. To be honest, it looks like a system that is better suited to the AHL rather than the NHL. Right now Eakins gets a bit of a mulligan for the swiss cheese like roster MacT has provided him (how is that trade for another small skill guy in Perron working so far?), but unless the team turns around that will only carry him so far.

Perron is a huge upgrade on Paarvi.....

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#126 Allycatx
October 15 2013, 12:35PM
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Yak has to be defensively responsible to play people , sitting out is ok . Don't Panic , they are playing decent hockey . Bad goal takes away momentum , it will all come together , also enough on Eakins , 5 games does not make a season , calm down

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