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Lowetide
October 21 2013 07:15PM

The Edmonton Oilers goaltenders have been in the news plenty this season, mostly for the wrong reasons. With Devan Dubnyk righting the ship in the last two starts, this is a good time to review the group and see if there are good arrows bubbling under.

THE EDMONTON OILERS GOALIE DEPTH CHART

  1. Devan Dubnyk 6, 4.19 .877. You should have seen the numbers a few days ago! Dubnyk had an incredibly poor start to the season, but has turned it around in the last two games. Coach Dallas Eakins gave DD big credit for the Ottawa win, and if they club gets consistent goaltending from the big man it should be a good season in Edmonton.
  2. Jason LaBarbera 4, 3.22 .871. LaBarbera got the club's first win of the season but has been well below average so far this year. Like Dubnyk, if he returns to previous levels the club should be fine at the NHL level.
  3. Richard Bachman (AHL) 6, 1.99 .934. Veteran goalie has been very good for the Barons, especially in the first week when the club had a terrible time scoring goals. I think he's a reasonable AHL #1/callup, on par with last year's version (Yann Danis).
  4. Olivier Roy (AHL) 1, 2.00 .933. One game isn't much, but he played very well and is clearly the #1 prospect in the system at this time. When MacT talks about improving organizational depth, I think Roy is the one goalie prospect who will probably survive the purge.
  5. Tyler Bunz (ECHL) 1, 0.92 .957. Bunz had such a tough season in 12-13 he's going to need to have an outstanding year to regain his prospect status. A nice start, though.
  6. Ty Rimmer (CHL) 1, 5.02 .833. Signed to an AHL contract, Rimmer impressed in training camp and hasn't seen much action so far this season in Quad City.
  7. Frans Tuohimaa (SML) 7, 2.44 .915. Finnish goalie has been signed by the organization and is having a good season in a co-starting role.

SHOPPING DOWN EVERY AISLE

It's true the Oilers were looking around at their options (this was during the 4-game slide by Dubnyk) and if we believe Elliotte Friedman (and I do) this was more than a quick phonecall:

  • 12. At this time last week, no doubt everyone thought Edmonton was going to make a goalie move. The Oilers didn't for two reasons. First, they just didn't believe what they could get would really solve their problems long-term. Brian Elliott and Jonas Hiller, for example, will be free agents with no guarantee of staying. Second, Devan Dubnyk finished strong last week, which is the easiest solution. It's also very possible the organization believes team defence is more worrisome than goaltending.

I think the Oilers will be all over the free agent list this coming summer and if they could get a clear upgrade (Anderson in Ottawa, as an example) that might be a worthwhile move. The problem is asset cost--if you're getting something with high value the value out in a trade could be breathtaking (other teams aren't going to hand these guys over).

Best case scenario: Dubnyk has a terrific season and the club signs him to a long term deal. And that will give them time to find and develop a goaltender of the future.

WHERE?

The usual, draft, free agent signing or trade. The college goalie crop won't declare until later in the year and the Euro goaltenders haven't established themselves (beyond Mikko Koskinen, former Islander first round pick who is playing very well in the KHL--I think he's still Islander property), but there's a lot of blacktop left this season. 

Bottom line: Those 7 names above are probably going to see significant turnover next summer.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

When it comes to masked men, you never know.

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#1 RexHolez
October 21 2013, 07:40PM
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Why can we not all just agree that we need a legit #1 goalie. Dubnyk is not good enough, this should be apparent to everyone. We can get by with him for now, but when that right goalie comes around we need to get him

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#2 Quicksilver ballet
October 21 2013, 07:51PM
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We can all breathe a little easier now that the Oilers only real goaltending prospect is returning to form. This is Edmonton, we'll find whatever reason possible to celebrate a 2-6-1 record. It is far more than we deserve, according to Lowe.

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#3 Spydr Man
October 21 2013, 08:53PM
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Flubnyk- end of story!

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#4 DFartS
October 21 2013, 08:54PM
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@Spydr Man

Right on buddy!

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#5 Quicksilver ballet
October 21 2013, 08:01PM
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Alan...

Jeff Micheals has be throwing around this term "activate" in recent weeks. Any idea what this term means, in todays game? Couldn't find it anywhere in my Broadcasting for Dummies handbook.

Would Danny Gallivan be impressed, or is this just some Yankee influence creeping into the game?

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#6 Quicksilver ballet
October 21 2013, 08:16PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Ignite?

No.

....or is this a subliminal message you think MacT needs blow things up, since the first attempt didn't work?

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#7 Serious Gord
October 21 2013, 09:50PM
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Off topic I know, but we now have hall, eberle and Smyth out with injuries.

When was the last time the oil put anyone on another team out. There's a damning stat that no one keeps.

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#8 Quicksilver ballet
October 22 2013, 02:29AM
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Maybe Brown wanted out/asked to be traded, couldn't stomach the rebuild excuse any longer. Losing isn't for everyone. Whatever, no big loss.

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#9 vetinari
October 21 2013, 07:41PM
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I just don't think MacT sees Dubnyk as our long term solution in net and even if Dubs does rebound to close to his career average for the rest of the season, I'll be surprised if he gets more than a year or two extension. I suspect that at this time next year, Dubs and Barbie will be playing elsewhere...

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#10 Uks Ya!
October 22 2013, 12:22AM
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J.S Giguere for (old balls) Shultz!

Avs need help on D? We let Giggy & Duby battle for the job & go with Giguere in the ploffs!!

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#11 headmetal
October 21 2013, 08:29PM
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@Jay Gray

kinda hope that we do look at some of these guys as the option. Olivier Roy as the best prospect we have scares the poop out of me and young goalie with pedigree would be nice to have.

Now Andersen or Gibson from Anaheim would be my #1 targets

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#12 Jay Gray
October 21 2013, 08:20PM
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I have 3 names on my wish list.

Jake Allen, Jack Campbell and John Gibson.

I'm sure their respective teams aren't willing to just give these guys away.

But I do believe that the ages of these guys syncs up with the age of our core.

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#13 Hayek
October 21 2013, 10:17PM
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Naky wrote:

Brown seems like a contract limit move, plus a chance to thin out an already packed competition for those fourth line duties. Brown, Eager, Gazdic, MacIntyre, Pitlick, Hamilton, Jones (time will tell if he's made his promotion permanent again), Acton, Lander... were all fighting for the same minutes and duties.

Brown seems like a dumping of a terrible player move. 1 point in a season with the Oilers, constantly getting outshot, and hemmed in his own zone. That we got anything in return is an absolute steal of a deal.

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#14 madjam
October 21 2013, 10:18PM
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Troubling the list of injuries loading up once again . Is the system partly at fault ? Montreal , another smallish club , facing same situation .

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#15 Racki
October 21 2013, 07:21PM
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That animated gif has me trippin balls right now.

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#17 oilredemption
October 21 2013, 10:23PM
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I strongly believe they want to put the 4th line rw up for grabs and make competition within the organization. Hence the brown trade. It's macTs message of saying okay Jones, eager and pitlick. Here's a spot, it's available and your the man so grab it and run with it and if you fail you will not be wearing the orange and blue next year. * key note they are all in contract years

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#18 Dog Train
October 21 2013, 11:22PM
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Dubnyk has bounced back nicely but that early stretch of games can't be completely ignored. It's a long season but I would have a hard time going into next season without at least finding Dubnyk some real competition for his job.

Good move dumping Brown. We have a few of those fourth line types now and it gives us more flexibility with the roster. I would like to see Pitlick given a chance in that role for a bit. His offense may not be translating to the pro game but his role would just be to forecheck like mad and hit anything that moves. The way he played in the pre-season would be a good fit on the fourth line right now.

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#19 Bloodsweatandoil
October 22 2013, 01:25AM
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Hmm...Brown traded for a draft pick, Eager and Jones did not play into this! They were here before Brown, if they had what it took and the determination, we would not have gotten Brown in the first place last year! As for Pitlick, not sure where he stands in this as he is not proven yet. In my opinion, this trade for a 4th round pick, it wasn't to get the pick back, or clear a little salary, it is clearing a roster spot for something bigger to come.

My thinking is that, why get rid of toughness? Mike and Luke have not been costing the Oilers anything thus far, we can speculate that it would be nice to have a 4th line that is scoring, but on the other hand, it was nice to speculate going into Vancouver/Calgary etc with a fourth line consisting of Mike, Luke and Steve...My point is that from the games I have watched so far, Mike Brown has been pretty energetic, hit somebody every shift, didn't indulge in stupid penalties, wasn't lazy and protected his net and drove the net! I feel he is heads and tails above Jones and Eager, Brown was never sent to the AHL!

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#20 MessyEH!
October 22 2013, 03:47AM
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I loved Browns compete level. And his jack rabbit like punches. If he had a mullet we would of hung His jersey from the rafters.

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#21 Hayek
October 22 2013, 04:14AM
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Bloodsweatandoil wrote:

Blakpoo I agree with the last half of your statement. What I was trying to convey was that, I feel Brown was acquired to "face punch", but also to send a message to the lower 6 of the lineup last year. Not only did he bring the title of an enforcer, he brought that he was capable of being able to skate, shoot and drive. He played power plays and penalty killing; he never stopped! He played every shift hard and contributed, something that I feel Jones and Eager still lack!

But Brown hits guys after he has lost the puck and has chased them around. He doesn't drive the net either because he provides zero offence. I think Brown has been involved in one scoring chance the entire year!

You can hire some guy from men's league to go around and hit people endlessly. That's not a skill in itself. This "energy" he provides might look good to a casual fan, but he never has the puck himself, and that's why he has so many opportunities to hit.

In his career with the Oilers, Brown has 1G, 1A for 2 points. He was terrible, and now he is gone.

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#23 Naky
October 21 2013, 08:50PM
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There's nothing wrong with looking to the future and upgrading or even towards free agency this summer but unless we are getting a -proven- substantial upgrade, we had better not trade for one at any sort of high cost.

The aforementioned team defense problem is a big one Eakins has his hands full trying to tackle and until they slay that beast Edmonton could very well become the Philly of the west where we chase out every goalie we bring in thinking they're the problem.

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#24 Shaun Doe
October 21 2013, 09:30PM
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So why did we just trade brown? Eager on the way into the line up?

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#25 27Ginge
October 21 2013, 09:48PM
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Browny just got dealt.

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#26 madjam
October 21 2013, 09:56PM
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Brown traded to Sharks for 4th rounder . what is going to follow this opening ? Dubbie has to show consistency that has plagued him in the past and early this season .

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#27 Ron Burgundy
October 21 2013, 09:56PM
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So why did we just trade brown? Eager on the way into the line up?

Willis reported earlier that Eager and Pitlick weren't at the OKC skate earlier. Looks like one of them just got promoted.

Good for MacT getting the 4th rounder back I suppose. More to come?

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#28 Oilcruzer
October 21 2013, 10:05PM
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Pitlick called up a couple hours ago.

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#29 Naky
October 21 2013, 10:08PM
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Brown seems like a contract limit move, plus a chance to thin out an already packed competition for those fourth line duties. Brown, Eager, Gazdic, MacIntyre, Pitlick, Hamilton, Jones (time will tell if he's made his promotion permanent again), Acton, Lander... were all fighting for the same minutes and duties.

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#30 geoilersgist
October 21 2013, 11:29PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Off topic I know, but we now have hall, eberle and Smyth out with injuries.

When was the last time the oil put anyone on another team out. There's a damning stat that no one keeps.

One time this kids named NUGE wrecked a guy named Morrow. End of story.

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#31 dougtheslug
October 22 2013, 12:29AM
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Colorado wins and leads the league, Calgary wins again.......Could Bob Stauffer please remind us all again why it takes the better part of a decade to rebuild?..........Just asking.....

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#32 BLAKPOO
October 22 2013, 02:42AM
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@Bloodsweatandoil

For sure Brown's a competitor. I agree with you there. The best team in the league didn't give away a draft pick for a lunk they intend to ship off to pasture. I think you said it best.. he is "capable" of being able to skate, shoot and drive. The man can hit for sure, but his puck skills this year have been terrible. The Sharks want him for what we don't need him for anymore.. if that makes sense. I also agree with you that Jones and Eager are a waste of time, hence Tyler Pitlick. If you look at it objectively, the bonuses of Brown over Pitlick: face punching and a hybrid Freddie Mercury / Zig Zag guy moustache that makes your facial hair seem acceptable to your wife. The bonuses of Pitlick over Brown: 1 less contract, cap space, youth, the same level of physical play and the skills to actually contribute offensively and slot higher if needed. Oh, and a draft pick. If he scrubs out, well, at least we know. Move on.

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#33 Hayek
October 22 2013, 05:24AM
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Bloodsweatandoil wrote:

Blakpoo I agree with the last half of your statement. What I was trying to convey was that, I feel Brown was acquired to "face punch", but also to send a message to the lower 6 of the lineup last year. Not only did he bring the title of an enforcer, he brought that he was capable of being able to skate, shoot and drive. He played power plays and penalty killing; he never stopped! He played every shift hard and contributed, something that I feel Jones and Eager still lack!

Sorry for double reply, but Mike Brown did not play on the powerplay or penalty kill either.

This year he played 0 minutes, 0 seconds on the powerplay, and 0 minutes, 0 seconds on the penalty kill.

Last season he played 3 minutes, 37 seconds on the penalty kill, 1 minute, 52 seconds on the powerplay.

These are not time per game, but time per the entire season.

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#34 Spydyr
October 22 2013, 06:17AM
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My best case scenario : They pick up one of the best free agent goalies next summer a clear upgrade and sign him long term.

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#35 Oilcruzer
October 21 2013, 09:27PM
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What the. Ebs out?

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#36 #ThereGoesTheOilers
October 21 2013, 09:36PM
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Dubnyk will be okay, we will see. Maybe he's not the best option long term, but time will tell.

All of this drama has really given me a good chuckle. Leaf fans think Reimer is worth what? Give me a break!

Despite their start to the season, how smart is Lamoriello looking? Schneider for that cost was one hell of a bargain. I admire the concept of sound goaltending that you build a team around. It has certainly worked out well for Jersey.

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On his next shut out,

the next days headline should read

Doobie stones the _________*

* drop the word "the" for teams with two syllables.

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#38 OilCanFan
October 21 2013, 09:57PM
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#ThereGoesTheOilers wrote:

Dubnyk will be okay, we will see. Maybe he's not the best option long term, but time will tell.

All of this drama has really given me a good chuckle. Leaf fans think Reimer is worth what? Give me a break!

Despite their start to the season, how smart is Lamoriello looking? Schneider for that cost was one hell of a bargain. I admire the concept of sound goaltending that you build a team around. It has certainly worked out well for Jersey.

Issue was that wasn't the same deal that Vancouver was going to give Edmonton so it is moot. MacT had little chance to land Schneider and Bernier's asking price from LA was probably equally as bad. It wasn't quite how smart Lamoriello is looking but rather how bad Gillis is.

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#39 Jay Gray
October 21 2013, 10:57PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I accidentally trashed your post. Sorry, didn't mean too. Gave it a prop too, but still feel bad. Doh!

Thank ya, I enjoy your show

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#40 BLAKPOO
October 22 2013, 01:50AM
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Bloodsweatandoil wrote:

Hmm...Brown traded for a draft pick, Eager and Jones did not play into this! They were here before Brown, if they had what it took and the determination, we would not have gotten Brown in the first place last year! As for Pitlick, not sure where he stands in this as he is not proven yet. In my opinion, this trade for a 4th round pick, it wasn't to get the pick back, or clear a little salary, it is clearing a roster spot for something bigger to come.

My thinking is that, why get rid of toughness? Mike and Luke have not been costing the Oilers anything thus far, we can speculate that it would be nice to have a 4th line that is scoring, but on the other hand, it was nice to speculate going into Vancouver/Calgary etc with a fourth line consisting of Mike, Luke and Steve...My point is that from the games I have watched so far, Mike Brown has been pretty energetic, hit somebody every shift, didn't indulge in stupid penalties, wasn't lazy and protected his net and drove the net! I feel he is heads and tails above Jones and Eager, Brown was never sent to the AHL!

We didn't pick up Brown for his "determination". It was more for his "face punching". Certainly not for his puck possession skills. With Gazdic on the same line, you have a true heavyweight that more than fills the enforcer role and will only skate over the puck about half as often as Brown did. This makes Brown obsolete. Not only do we dump a contract for almost equal value as we acquired it, we create the opportunity to foster competition within the group for the open spot. Win-win.

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#41 Bloodsweatandoil
October 22 2013, 02:04AM
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@BLAKPOO

Blakpoo I agree with the last half of your statement. What I was trying to convey was that, I feel Brown was acquired to "face punch", but also to send a message to the lower 6 of the lineup last year. Not only did he bring the title of an enforcer, he brought that he was capable of being able to skate, shoot and drive. He played power plays and penalty killing; he never stopped! He played every shift hard and contributed, something that I feel Jones and Eager still lack!

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#42 Elfreda
October 22 2013, 06:55AM
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Haha, this video is great!

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#43 OILERSORDEATH
October 22 2013, 07:24AM
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Jeez what a joke, Calgary is out played in every way but still get lucky enough to win. LA should of have 5-6 goals how embarrassing for the Kings

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#44 Puck_In_Throat
October 22 2013, 09:03AM
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@Lowetide

I am pretty sure that it is an American term- as in "Schultz activates up the right wing boards..."

Another term that US broadcasts seem to love is "jailbreak" i.e. odd-man rush (counter attack).

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#45 OilersRidersChargers
October 22 2013, 12:18PM
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Jack uses "Activate" to indicate that a defenceman has joined the rush, instead of playing defence. Which is what Jr. Shultz does all the time, so we hear it a lot.

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October 22 2013, 12:53PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Off topic I know, but we now have hall, eberle and Smyth out with injuries.

When was the last time the oil put anyone on another team out. There's a damning stat that no one keeps.

Off the top of my mind, Hall kneeing Clatterbuck in the middle of last season.

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