TUESDAY TIDBITS....

Jason Gregor
October 22 2013 07:27AM

The Edmonton Oilers traded Mike Brown to the San Jose Sharks for a 4th round pick in 2014 last night.

The biggest benefit of this move is that it gets the Oilers back to 48 contracts.

Brown averaged only 5:49 of TOI in eight games. He had no points, one shot on goal and 25 hits. Brown is physical, but outside of that he didn't do much with the puck. I won't be surprised to see him do well in San Jose. Good teams make role players look better.

Just ask Colin Fraser. He didn't look good in Edmonton, but he has a defined 4th line role in LA and he's done okay.

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  • Craig MacTavish stated last season he wants a 4th line that can contribute, but thus far that hasn't happened. Moving Brown gets the Oilers back to 48 contracts, and I'm curious if it means we will see guys like Ryan Jones and Tyler Pitlick on 4th line instead of recalling Ben Eager.
     
  • Brown was expendable, because he and Ben Eager are essentially the same player. Neither is going to bring a lot of offence, but Eager is bigger and a better skater. The issue is neither has been able to contribute to a consistent cycle in the offensive zone.
     
  • As of right now the Oilers have 13 forwards, but only 11 are for sure healthy. Ryan Smyth is back in Edmonton, while Jordan Eberle is day-to-day. The Oilers also have eight D-men on their roster. The Oilers quietly recalled Taylor Fedun last night. He is listed as active on the team's website, but now it looks like Ben Eager will be coming up. It is interesting to note that Fedun was on their website last night and this morning, and Hall was listed on the IR, but this morning Brown is still on the team's page. Odd.
     
  • A source tells me Craig MacTavish has made a few calls and is looking to make a move. Not a major deal, but more of a depth move. Also, don't rule out Ilya Brzygalov coming to Edmonton. The Oilers will give the goalies a few weeks to try and turn things around, and if it doesn't happen Bryzgalov will be seriously looked at. It would only be a one-year deal if they agree to it.
     
  • Taylor Hall has been put on the IR, which means he'll miss at least three games. No word yet on the results of his MRI, but as many of us said on Saturday, the best case scenario is he'll be out for a few weeks.
     
  • Brown getting traded was also cap-related. The Oilers, despite being a non-playoff team for seven seasons, are in a cap crunch due to all their injuries. If my calculations are correct the Oilers needed to either move a player to LTIR or move a contract. They elected the latter.
     
  • After the Oilers announced Ryan Smyth was heading back to Edmonton to get an injury looked at and Eberle was listed as day-to-day, I received a fair amount of emails from people starting to thing "space clearing" might be a good option. You never know.
     
  • I did receive a few texts, two from players and one from management, none of which were in the Oilers organization, and all three said they've used a form of positive energy therapy. They said it would be hard to convince the entire team to do it, but felt a few players would be open to it.

    They told me that their experiences with sports psychology focused on positive thinking, visualization and being open to change. They felt that would be similar to "space clearing." I still don't believe the Oilers as a team would consider it, but I won't be surprised if some players do it individually and quietly.
     
  • The Oilers are starting to show cracks in their 5x5 play again. Despite winning in Ottawa the Oilers were outshot 22-13 at ES and their Corsi was 47-18 in favour of the Senators. Against the Islanders they were outshot 28-16 at even strength and their Corsi was equally horrible at 43-30.
     
  • Until the Oilers learn to play better defensively, and smarter without the puck I don't see how they can improve. The players have to start buying into the defensive scheme, because you can't keep blaming the coach. The players play the game, and if they can't match the work ethic or competitive level of their opponents they won't be a playoff team, regardless of who is coaching.
     
  • The Oilers have no net presence on the powerplay. I stated before that Shawn Horcoff was vital to the PP because he did the dirty work in front of the net. When Boyd Gordon isn't on the first unit, no one stands in front of the net. Eakins talked about the Oilers simplifying things and said they  need to, "just start bombing some shots on net," but if no one is standing in front, or willing to go after rebounds it won't matter.
     
  • You can't put five perimeter guys on the PP and expect to have success. Of course it helps having elite skilled players on the powerplay, but if they don't outwork the opponents and go to the tough areas their chances of scoring diminish significantly.
     
  • Most of the free agent talk has centred around the Sedins, Dion Phaneuf, Henrik Lundqvist and Joe Thornton, but people should be talking about Alexander Steen (he prefers Alexander to Alex). Steen is the best two-way forward on the Blues. He is sound defensively and he's starting to emerge offensively. He has 11 points in 7 games thus far, and I won't be surprised to see him around the 75-85 point mark at the end of the year.

    Ken Hitchcock loves Steen, and I'm sure he's telling Blues management they need to re-sign him right away, but the Blues aren't historically a cap team. They have less than a million in cap space this year and they already have $42 million committed to 13 players next season. If Steen tests the free agent market, he could get $6 million+/year.
     
  • For the past three seasons, the only award Oilers fans felt was realistic was the Calder trophy. No Oilers has ever won the Calder, but keep in mind Marc Arcobello is eligible. A player has to be less than 26 years of age by September 15th of the year he is eligible. Arcobello is currently 3rd in rookie scoring with eight points. Tomas Hertl has 10, Sean Monahan has 9 and Nathan MacKinnon has 7. After watching Hall, RNH and Yakupov miss out on the hardware, Arcobello could be come the least likely winner in Oilers history.
     
  • Arcobello is currently 5th in the NHL in FO%. He's 77-53 in the dot and sitting at 59.2%. With injuries to Hall and Smyth I suspect we will see Sam Gagner playing the wing when he returns. I don't see how Eakins can move Arcobello to the wing or down the lineup based on his play.
     
  • Boyd Gordon is 2nd in the NHL at 60.8% going 113-73 in the circle. Winning faceoffs helps, but it hasn't cured the Oilers 5-on-5 woes. As a team, the Oilers are 6th in the NHL at 54.5%, but they are only 2-6-1. Winning faceoffs helps, but I've always felt the stat can be somewhat misleading if you believe it plays a significant role in overall puck possession.
     
  • In their last two games the Oilers were 57-56 in the dot, but they were outshot 76-50.
     
  • With Hall on the IR, and Jordan Eberle nursing an injury, it is time Nail Yakupov elevates his game. The Oilers desperately need him to get going offensively. He needs to become a difference maker in the next few games. I suspect we will see his icetime increase.  

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#51 SPYPOO
October 22 2013, 11:10AM
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Anonymous wrote:

Toronto

Nope!!!

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#52 EP
October 22 2013, 11:16AM
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Anonymous wrote:

Its all but done! Hope you got lots of dollars because I love donuts, and goalies who have 2ns in their last name, and forwards related to old Islanders, and stud defensemen who own beautiful properties in West Kelowna B.C. Hint hint!!!!!

Rinne, Nystrom, and Weber? Way too much salary has to go back to make this deal work. I do hope you're right but I'll believe it when I see it.

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#53 smiliegirl15
October 22 2013, 11:24AM
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Reiki is amazing! We all have energy and if you don't believe that, why are you drawn to certain people but repelled from others? It's the energy they give off.

Positive energy will definitely speed healing and give you an overall feeling of wellbeing. Don't you always perform better when you feel great about yourself?

It can't hurt.

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#54 Ari Gold
October 22 2013, 11:27AM
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I used to think that all these man-games lost to injury was bad luck. Now I know better. We're getting beat up, every game.

Toronto has a garbage lineup, but for some strange reason they keep overachieving even with a terrible 4th line.

We need some bloody meat-eaters. Real homicidal maniacs. Where's Oggie Oglethorpe when you need him??

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#55 MessyEH!
October 22 2013, 01:44PM
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SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:

Were you hiding under the desk?

He sure hears "good" with a mouthfull.

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#56 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 22 2013, 07:44AM
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Any word on what kind injuries Smyth and Eberle have?

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#57 Coco crisp
October 22 2013, 08:56AM
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So is fedun playing and with the oil or what? Ganger on the wing? Circa 2009?

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#58 Ducey
October 22 2013, 09:06AM
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•Brown getting traded was also cap-related. The Oilers, despite being a non-playoff team for seven seasons, are in a cap crunch due to all their injuries. If my calculations are correct the Oilers needed to either move a player to LTIR or move a contract. They elected the latter.

I don't see this. Capgeek has them at 25th in the NHL in terms of salary - with $5.6 million in cap room. Thats with Brown gone but without Pitlick.

Perhaps you can explain your "calculations".

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#59 Lochenzo
October 22 2013, 09:27AM
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Unfortunately, everyone tries to get a piece of the kids to slow them down. Hall was going to blow by Gyrba and Gyrba got a piece of him, didn't he. Ebs been beating guys to the puck and been getting drilled for good measure. Kassian missed Sam Gagner with a check so he recklessly swings his stick around and nails him in the face.

Players do stupid things when they know they're going to get beat. I remember Cooke slicing Karlsson's achilles quite vividly. Cooke was going to get beat off the wall by a slick skating, skilled player and picked his leg up to try and coral him. that's when Cooke's skate cut into Karlsson's leg.

Guys are scared to get beat. I don't know how Datsyuk has been so good at staying healthy given how often he beats guys one on one. No errant knees, cross checks to the back or slashes to the wrists have stopped him. Something to be learned there?

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#60 Fresh Mess
October 22 2013, 09:52AM
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@Ducey

Perhaps you can explain your use of quotation marks.

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#61 BleedingOil
October 22 2013, 10:30AM
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trade winds are a blowing......will see a move or two in the coming days / week.

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#62 Anonymous
October 22 2013, 10:56AM
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BleedingOil wrote:

trade winds are a blowing......will see a move or two in the coming days / week.

Big trade to be announced right after tonights game. Multi- player. Minimum 3 going and 5 coming back. My sources ae second to none. You are welcome!

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#63 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
October 22 2013, 11:12AM
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Anonymous wrote:

Its all but done! Hope you got lots of dollars because I love donuts, and goalies who have 2ns in their last name, and forwards related to old Islanders, and stud defensemen who own beautiful properties in West Kelowna B.C. Hint hint!!!!!

I call BS. A stud defenseman is too good to be true...

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#64 Secret
October 22 2013, 11:27AM
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papamike wrote:

Now that is funny

Get a job Spydyr!That is Funnier!!!!!!lmao!!!

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#65 Slats
October 22 2013, 12:42PM
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They're $hittie wrote:

Top PP guy last year was Gagner, One of top PK guy last year was Gagner.

Maybe this is part of the reasons our special teams suck.

I agree and Gregor's comments about being in front of the net or going to the net after a shot - Gagner did this and did this well!

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#66 WILDTHING
October 22 2013, 12:56PM
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Jeff wrote:

I can’t believe how you think this is not a coaching issue.

Last year, with a very similar team, we were far better. What change, an aging centre that was not productive offensively??? GM that change, probably a net neutral affect to the team long term??? Some “role players” have changed but not the fundamental core.....

Oh wait...... snap.... I got it, WE GOT A NEW COACH.

“Until the Oilers learn to play better defensively, and smarter without the puck I don't see how they can improve. The players have to start buying into the defensive scheme, because you can't keep blaming the coach. The players play the game, and if they can't match the work ethic or competitive level of their opponents they won't be a playoff team, regardless of who is coaching”

What defensive system are we playing..... huh.... I wonder if Eberle and Nug picked our system.... “Hey Hallsy, what do you think if we start running this defense and not worry about a forecheck?”

Players play the game and our work ethic and competitiveness is not being matched, unfortunately, when the entire team is that way, one needs to ask about the coach. Last time I checked, if an associate was not putting in an effort he/she would get fired, if the entire organization was not meeting their goals in a company, the company gets a new Manager.

AGAIN, NOT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT COACHING IS THE EQUIVALENT OF PUTTING ONES HEAD BELOW SAND.

I agree that we have a better team. However it's hard to blame the coach when goaltending was uncharastically a problem the first 6 games. To say a coach is to blame under 10 games in would hardly be fair. There were plenty of stretches last year where there record for 10 games was worse than it is now. It just gets magnified since it's at the beginning of the season and not in the middle.

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#67 One Who Knows (For Sure)
October 22 2013, 12:59PM
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Anonymous wrote:

cannot reveal my sources. Nor can I give specifics. All I can say is between game end and tomorrow 10am the first trade will be made.

100% correct Big Trade Coming...No ...Eklund is not my source....way better source than this...maybe I am the source? 3 Way Trade Oil lose 5 and gain 5..... taht's all folks!!!! Patience.... you will all be PLEASANTLY SURPRISED..... by tomorrow 10am mst.....you shall see!!!!!! Remember 3WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#68 Anatomy Teacher
October 22 2013, 01:52PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

He sure hears "good" with a mouthfull.

your ears are not in your mouth.

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#69 **
October 22 2013, 10:44AM
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get the cool shoeshine

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#70 Anonymous
October 22 2013, 11:07AM
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Benny Botts wrote:

Sounds like a "gagner to be captain" rumour i have heard recently... Bet dollars to donuts that this does not come to fruition.

Its all but done! Hope you got lots of dollars because I love donuts, and goalies who have 2ns in their last name, and forwards related to old Islanders, and stud defensemen who own beautiful properties in West Kelowna B.C. Hint hint!!!!!

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#71 Secret
October 22 2013, 11:25AM
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EP wrote:

Rinne, Nystrom, and Weber? Way too much salary has to go back to make this deal work. I do hope you're right but I'll believe it when I see it.

...and Hendricks and Gaustad for yakupov, eberle and J schultz?????? Maybe Baby!!!!!!

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#72 The Real Anonymous
October 22 2013, 11:47AM
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Its all but done! Hope you got lots of dollars because I love donuts, and goalies who have 2ns in their last name, and forwards related to old Islanders, and stud defensemen who own beautiful properties in West Kelowna B.C. Hint hint!!!!!

Nope. Canadiens are looking to pick up a forward to replace Briere, Prust, Pacioretty and Parros. Eager and Pitlick both called up to be in Montreal tonight. Yakupov and Galchenyuk old teammates. MTL and EDM do not play each other again this year. Yak scratched for 2 games after the last MTL meeting. They could not finalize a deal, so Yak was back in lineup. MTL hurting now and a deal has been made. MacT held out and the OIL are filling a MAJOR hole tonight post game.

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#73 Anoymous
October 22 2013, 12:28PM
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The Real Anonymous wrote:

Nope. Canadiens are looking to pick up a forward to replace Briere, Prust, Pacioretty and Parros. Eager and Pitlick both called up to be in Montreal tonight. Yakupov and Galchenyuk old teammates. MTL and EDM do not play each other again this year. Yak scratched for 2 games after the last MTL meeting. They could not finalize a deal, so Yak was back in lineup. MTL hurting now and a deal has been made. MacT held out and the OIL are filling a MAJOR hole tonight post game.

SSSSSSHHHHHH!!!!! Dummy .... you weren't spposed to LET THAT ONE OUT OF THE BAG! Subban to Oilers!!!!!!HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!

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#74 pkam
October 22 2013, 12:34PM
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Anonymous wrote:

Big trade to be announced right after tonights game. Multi- player. Minimum 3 going and 5 coming back. My sources ae second to none. You are welcome!

Is Eklund your second to none source?

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#75 Randy
October 22 2013, 12:52PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

No specifics teams. Looking to upgrade blueline and trying to find an aggressive forward who can play top nine minutes. Easier said than done.

So, it's same as what we wanted before the year started? Hey Gregor, sounds like you are just going over old notes for the sake of a story.

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#76 The One Feeding The One Who Knows (for sure)
October 22 2013, 01:17PM
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One Who Knows (For Sure) wrote:

100% correct Big Trade Coming...No ...Eklund is not my source....way better source than this...maybe I am the source? 3 Way Trade Oil lose 5 and gain 5..... taht's all folks!!!! Patience.... you will all be PLEASANTLY SURPRISED..... by tomorrow 10am mst.....you shall see!!!!!! Remember 3WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not a true 3WAY trade. Some assests that EDM receives will immediately be flipped to a third team. MacT is the pivot point in this deal. The two teams involved cannot make the deal work. EDM is sending players 2 ways, and one team is also getting an asset acquired in the first trade....TONIGHT AFTER THE GAME! Didnt EDM just get a 4th for Brown......plus remember, 2 teams do not have a first round pick this year, and someone that likes to deal with EDM has 2 first round picks.

I was in the room.

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#77 Wonger
October 22 2013, 02:15PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

you are right, and besides, I know from experience that nothing about MacT, KLowe and DK is a mouthful.

If you guys are talking about suspensions resulting from BLOWS to the HEAD like the CFL Lead Official did on the Gregor show yesterday why doesn't Mrs. Wonger get Suspended once in a while? How can I get her suspended more often?

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#78 David S
October 22 2013, 03:46PM
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One Who Knows Everything (For Sure) wrote:

3 WAY 95% for sure by 10AM MST tomorrow or sooner!!!!!! I told you so!!!!!!

So is this an E4 or E5?

Just want to be sure. Kthx.

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#79 uks ya
October 22 2013, 04:33PM
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uks ya! wrote:

only King Lunqvist means as much to New York if not MORE then what Weber means to Nashville....

don't over think it I said New York & Nashville...

Not Rangers & Preds!

nobody is untouchable...The Preds suck with Weber & he makes tons of money & they desperately need help upfront!!!

Jones is the New Weber!

p.s CLOWN!

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#80 Wonger
October 22 2013, 05:25PM
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Benny Botts wrote:

Looking forward to making you eat some crow tomorrow

It's not me!!! I am just a fan! Most of my comments today were POACHED! I want the Oil to win! I Know NOTHING ABOUT ANT TRADES!!! Sorry!!!

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#81 BleedingOil
October 22 2013, 07:07PM
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he is correct. just checked.

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#82 Walter Sobchak
October 22 2013, 07:42PM
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Gregor, I beg ya!

Can we put a stop to all this trade BS!!

Make a rule, unsubstantiated bullship without at least a source should get a short term ban!!

I don't mind guys & gals opinioning on who should get traded and for whom.

These clowns are just looking for attention! Nothing more!!

I can read this crap on another forum.

Thanks.

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#83 Anonymous
October 22 2013, 10:17PM
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Anonymous wrote:

Anaheim has 3 Goalies, 2 first round picks, 4 notable UFAs this year, a retiring Selanne and a goalie going UFA

Wonger is not the trade insider! Anyways, after their outstanding performance tonight all trade talk has settled right down! I am not expecting any moves tomorrow anymore! That is the bottom line, Goodnight!

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#84 j
October 22 2013, 08:37AM
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The faceoff comments/stats are interesting. By eye, it appears that the Oilers win more defensive/ neutral zone faceoffs therefore it doesn't seem to give an advantage in terms of shots. They also seem to bear down on offensive faceoffs when on the power play but, as discussed previously, are guilty of not taking PP shots in general. That said, the first few games of the season the Oilers really did play well and did win the Corsi - some of which could likely be attributed to won faceoffs. The last two haven't been very good in that respect.

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#85 Benny Botts
October 22 2013, 09:00AM
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@Gregor

Did your source say any teams or players the oil are looking at?

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#86 Miyagi
October 22 2013, 09:45AM
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Faceoff numbers are wrong. Nevermind, I see you fixed them. Thanks.

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#87 bwar
October 22 2013, 10:11AM
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I'm very interested to see what the lines will be tonight.

Really hoping Gagner can come back soon. Seems like his return could help cushion this weeks injury woes a little bit.

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#88 Ducey
October 22 2013, 10:24AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Click on the * beside the cap space.

**Team may be exceeding bonus cushion (Yak,Schultz, RNH), which would reduce listed cap space and AAV.**

Gagner isn't on LTIR so they don't get cap break from his contract. Same as Hall.

I get that. But how much does that add up to?

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#89 Wammo
October 22 2013, 10:43AM
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Injuries that the team has sustained over the past few years that were not results of flying sticks, pucks, skates, are directly the responsibility of the teams conditioning yet none or minimal changes have been made. Groin, knees and shoulder injuries are preventable even in contact sports yet year after year players miss chunks of time. We won't see a change in man games lost until their conditioning is properly addressed. It's sad seeing good young athletes careers limited because of other peoples faults.

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#90 Benny Botts
October 22 2013, 10:59AM
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BleedingOil wrote:

trade winds are a blowing......will see a move or two in the coming days / week.

Ya, you have to think with all this speculation out there and the mill turning constantly, that a couple things have to happen sooner rather then later.

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#91 Anonymous
October 22 2013, 11:00AM
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Anonymous wrote:

Big trade to be announced right after tonights game. Multi- player. Minimum 3 going and 5 coming back. My sources ae second to none. You are welcome!

Toronto

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#92 Terran
October 22 2013, 11:33AM
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@Ari Gold

Let's get Sean William Scott and Liev Schrieber in here.

Bye now, off to watch Goon again :)

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#93 Uks Ya!
October 22 2013, 11:48AM
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EP wrote:

Rinne, Nystrom, and Weber? Way too much salary has to go back to make this deal work. I do hope you're right but I'll believe it when I see it.

Duby (4mill) Hemsky (5mill) yak (3.75mill) old Shultz (4mill) 1st rd.pick and probably marincin or kleffbom!! For..

Rinne, Weber & Gaustad !

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#94 Uks Ya!
October 22 2013, 11:53AM
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Uks Ya! wrote:

Duby (4mill) Hemsky (5mill) yak (3.75mill) old Shultz (4mill) 1st rd.pick and probably marincin or kleffbom!! For..

Rinne, Weber & Gaustad !

Heck...throw in Omark!...then trade Jones or 3rd rd pick for Tootoo

Hall-Nuge-ebz** Perron-Arco-Gagz** Smyth-Gordon-Tootoo** Gazdic-Gaustad-Jones/Eager/Pitlick

Weber-Ference** Belov-Shultz** Smid-Petry** (LD with RD) all 3 lines)

Rinne-Bachman

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#95 Anonymous
October 22 2013, 12:39PM
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pkam wrote:

Is Eklund your second to none source?

cannot reveal my sources. Nor can I give specifics. All I can say is between game end and tomorrow 10am the first trade will be made.

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#96 pkam
October 22 2013, 12:43PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

So sick of Weber trade talks. Y'all are clowns. Joking or not.

Read that there were trade talks of King Henrik on the marker. That would be a season changer. Last time the Oil had a G like that was Cujo.

I thought TSN insiders said King Henrik wanted 8M+. Do you really think he worth that much, consider Rinne and Rask get 7M and Quick only 5.8M? Not to mention he is struggling big time this season. Wonder if and when he can adjust to the small goalie pads.

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#97 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
October 22 2013, 12:46PM
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@Anoymous

I would love to see Subban in Oilers silks but I don't see Montreal parting with him, even for Yak++

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#98 The One Feeding The One Who Knows (for sure)
October 22 2013, 01:41PM
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SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:

Were you hiding under the desk?

not in MacT's office. in pressbox during NJ then MTL games. MTL scouts were at both, and NJ does not have the first round pick I was telling you about.

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#99 MessyEH!
October 22 2013, 01:55PM
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Anatomy Teacher wrote:

your ears are not in your mouth.

you are right, and besides, I know from experience that nothing about MacT, KLowe and DK is a mouthful.

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#100 Oiler Al
October 22 2013, 02:20PM
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The One Feeding The One Who Knows (for sure) wrote:

Not a true 3WAY trade. Some assests that EDM receives will immediately be flipped to a third team. MacT is the pivot point in this deal. The two teams involved cannot make the deal work. EDM is sending players 2 ways, and one team is also getting an asset acquired in the first trade....TONIGHT AFTER THE GAME! Didnt EDM just get a 4th for Brown......plus remember, 2 teams do not have a first round pick this year, and someone that likes to deal with EDM has 2 first round picks.

I was in the room.

OWKFS..... the only room you were in was your mothers basement.

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