OIL'ER KINGS WIN

Brian Sutherby
October 23 2013 09:27AM

After a huge road win in a tough building the Oilers have to be feeling pretty good about themselves heading home. It wasn't the greatest game but a win in the NHL is a win and its even better after you're called a junior team.

There are still holes and areas that need to be improved but they come home with two big wins to close out this road trip when it looked like they may get skunked.

They are in no position to get comfy and still have a long way to go if they want to win consistently in this league. Turnovers and soft puck play is still far too prevalent in their game but let’s finally talk about some positives for once shall we?

EAKINS

I loved that he gave it to Lars Eller after the game. I don’t think Eller meant any real harm with the “play a little bit like a junior team,” remark and I’d be shocked if deep down Eakins didn’t kind of agree with him (I did).

Regardless, he got his team to respond. He was clearly hot about it and even if it wasn’t that big of a deal to his players, he made it one. Smart.

DUBNYK

Another great start for this guy. If it wasn’t for him this game may have been a different story. Every team needs great goaltending. He has been great as of late and is now making that big save or two or five that every team needs throughout a game.

SMID

Scores a huge goal and is one guy I see every game sticking up for his teammates and protecting his goalie. He doesn’t fight a lot but he makes it known you are going to have to answer to someone if you want to hang around in front of the net.

NUGE

What a filthy dish.

JONES

A tough start to the night with a turnover but he doesn’t let it affect his game. He was fore-checking and hounding defenseman all night. He jumped in when the kid Pitlick was in a little hot water and then was rewarded with a real gritty goal. He drove to the net hard, stopped in front, was strong on his stick and slammed home the game winner. Awesome

DR. SUTHERBY

I’m no doctor but you guys don’t mind if I play one on the Nation right?

Word has come out that Taylor Hall has a second degree MCL sprain. These are not fun. I’ve had a first degree and a second degree MCL sprain over the years.

The first degree was manageable and something you can play through albeit painfully with a brace on. It’s not fun for a few weeks but eventually it settles down.

The second degree was much more significant. Crutches and a thigh to shin brace had to be worn for the first week. Just bending the knee was difficult task for quite some time. I missed 3 weeks and came back playing with a knee brace. It was a battle for the remaining 2 months of the season. Every time I fell and the knee had to bend or whenever I dragged that skate a little and it tugged on the inside of that leg it was excruciating.

BAD NEWS FIRST

Everyone heals differently but I would expect Hall to have to wear a brace for an extended period of time and wouldn’t be surprised when he returns if he’s still laboring a bit. This is a nasty little injury that I doubt he’s 100% comfortable with at the four week timeframe even if he’s able to play.

NOW THE GOOD

This goes without saying but this is a great diagnosis and much better than a season ending ACL injury people feared. MCL’s heal up over time without surgery and he will eventually get back to 100%.

REMEMBER

An apple a day keeps the doctor away. For medical advice or hockey talk, submit your weekly mailbag questions to brian@oilersnation.com or on twitter @briansutherby

 

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#1 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
October 23 2013, 09:38AM
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If Hall ever plays a full season, look out world...

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#2 vetinari
October 23 2013, 10:19AM
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I think that Eller got to say what Eakins couldn't-- telling your own team that they play like juniors would demoralize them while having someone from another team say it galvanizes them together and encourages them to SIUTB's. Couldn't have planned it better for Eakins, could they?

Last night, the team looked more cohesive as units, albeit with some turnovers and defensive breakdowns, but I really noticed an extra spark across all of the lines once they went up 3-2. Special teams still needs work but given their patchwork lineup, they certainly exceeded expectations last night.

Also, Dubnyk is getting better and while I'm not 100% sold on him as a long term solution, I have to give him credit for better rebound control last night and getting his frame into position to cut down angles. Way to go, DD!

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#3 Wonger
October 23 2013, 10:20AM
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I watched a video of your scrap with Breen the other day! And you can play to! Seriously, you shouldn't have retired! You would be a upgrade for the Oil on Joensuu, Hamilton, Acton! Nothing wrong with these guys either! You would have made Gyba accountable for that questionable hit. Maybe you should hire the Wonger as your agent- specialist in Functional Toughness, self-proclaimed-but true- investing genious (stocks,bonds, annuities, alternative investments) - and let's get you back in the NHL! SERIOUSLY!!!

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#4 Rama Lama
October 23 2013, 10:23AM
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I agree with your analysis on the players Smid was terrific........so was Petry, looked all world out there.

Your comments regarding Eakins are way off the mark. If I were Eakins, I would have accepted the comments ( internally used them to my advantage) but NOT said anything to the media.

Eller simply said what everyone know, we have a junior coach and the lack of any systems are patently obvious to everyone. Why validate Eller by acknowledging his statements?

Bush league move.

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#5 Spydyr
October 23 2013, 10:30AM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I agree with your analysis on the players Smid was terrific........so was Petry, looked all world out there.

Your comments regarding Eakins are way off the mark. If I were Eakins, I would have accepted the comments ( internally used them to my advantage) but NOT said anything to the media.

Eller simply said what everyone know, we have a junior coach and the lack of any systems are patently obvious to everyone. Why validate Eller by acknowledging his statements?

Bush league move.

They validate you so why shouldn't Eller's comments be validated! Watch the road and quit texting you moron!!!

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#6 pelhem grenville
October 23 2013, 10:31AM
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...put Hall on the self til the first week in December when there is a 5 game home stand to play in on home ice...coming back too early(4weeks) never did anyone (especially our #4) any good ... wheels is his game, he should be on two good ones when he returns period

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October 23 2013, 10:52AM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I agree with your analysis on the players Smid was terrific........so was Petry, looked all world out there.

Your comments regarding Eakins are way off the mark. If I were Eakins, I would have accepted the comments ( internally used them to my advantage) but NOT said anything to the media.

Eller simply said what everyone know, we have a junior coach and the lack of any systems are patently obvious to everyone. Why validate Eller by acknowledging his statements?

Bush league move.

Your comments on Eakins are way off the mark than Brian's by a fair margin.

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#9 Wonger
October 23 2013, 10:53AM
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Brian Sutherby wrote:

I told you last time dad to stay off the message boards!!

FYI Breen broke my nose in that one.

Really? Looked like you did OK to me! Sorry! I will stay off of the message boards! FYI I think you are really good at this job as well, but really respected you as a COMPLETE hockey player!

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October 23 2013, 10:57AM
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Our rookie coach sure looked like he still has a few things to learn. Rather than just acknowledging the statement and taking the high road, he chose to focus on it and squish Eller under his shoes.

Hope he wasn't taking this opportunities because he knows the wins may be few and far between. There is a problem when Eakins needs the other team to motivate his own hockey club. Lessons are being learned by off ice personnel as well as with the players.

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#11 UnderOil
October 23 2013, 10:59AM
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Brian, I'm surprised you didn't mention Hemsky - he was a monster last night and is starting to really demonstrate some leadership through work ethic.

Any thoughts on how long he'll be an Oiler at this rate of performance?

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#12 GriffCity
October 23 2013, 11:04AM
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Such a dirty pass from Nuge to Petry, wow thats an all-world play.

Also loved how after that brutal Gary by Jones he pots one and celly's so hard he busts Perron in the chops with his stick lol.

Yakupov looked like he was playing for the other team last night. Painful

Eager did nothing good either.

How about when Eberle made the toey off the Yakupov dish and flipped it over the defencemans stick and tried batting it out of the air. skills on this kid amaze me

Lastly, how good is PK Subban? Honestly, that guy is unbelievable

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#13 Rama Lama
October 23 2013, 11:09AM
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Spydyr wrote:

They validate you so why shouldn't Eller's comments be validated! Watch the road and quit texting you moron!!!

English is a second language for Eller, I for one do not think he meant what he said.

If as a team we need comments for opposition players to get motivated......as suggested by Eakins, we are in trouble!!

We should play our game without requiring external motivation......now put that bong down genius!

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October 23 2013, 11:28AM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

If Hall ever plays a full season, look out world...

Maybe if Hall stays out we will have less turnovers.

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October 23 2013, 11:31AM
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@Brian Sutherby

[Quote][An apple a day keeps the doctor away.]

An apple a day will keep anyone away, if you throw it hard enough Brian.

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#18 HallFever
October 23 2013, 11:33AM
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I loved what Eakins did. Shove it in their face. Enough with sitting around and saying nothing because we are scared. This should be a confidence builder for the team.

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#20 Craig1981
October 23 2013, 11:38AM
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Wonger wrote:

I watched a video of your scrap with Breen the other day! And you can play to! Seriously, you shouldn't have retired! You would be a upgrade for the Oil on Joensuu, Hamilton, Acton! Nothing wrong with these guys either! You would have made Gyba accountable for that questionable hit. Maybe you should hire the Wonger as your agent- specialist in Functional Toughness, self-proclaimed-but true- investing genious (stocks,bonds, annuities, alternative investments) - and let's get you back in the NHL! SERIOUSLY!!!

Somebody has a man-crush on Sutherby.......

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#21 Dan the Man
October 23 2013, 11:40AM
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Our rookie coach sure looked like he still has a few things to learn. Rather than just acknowledging the statement and taking the high road, he chose to focus on it and squish Eller under his shoes.

Hope he wasn't taking this opportunities because he knows the wins may be few and far between. There is a problem when Eakins needs the other team to motivate his own hockey club. Lessons are being learned by off ice personnel as well as with the players.

I had no problem with what Eakins said, I actually found it quite hilarious and I'm sure his players enjoyed it too. This was simply Eakins standing up for his team.

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October 23 2013, 12:01PM
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@Dan the Man

True that. There's his free one. I'd be surprised to see him go off on another opposition player this year. There was a considerable amount of truth to what Lars mentioned though, i'm sure we can all agree on that. There were many hoping to see that post game interview had the Canadiens played the whole 60 mins. Most of them, Oiler fans i'm sure.

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#23 David S
October 23 2013, 12:02PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Our rookie coach sure looked like he still has a few things to learn. Rather than just acknowledging the statement and taking the high road, he chose to focus on it and squish Eller under his shoes.

Hope he wasn't taking this opportunities because he knows the wins may be few and far between. There is a problem when Eakins needs the other team to motivate his own hockey club. Lessons are being learned by off ice personnel as well as with the players.

I'm pretty sure Eakins would agree with the statement. Problem is, he's been telling his guys about the issues for a while now and maybe having someone outside the team validate those concerns suddenly hit home. He seized the opportunity and used it to get the guys to realize that it isn't just a new coach beaking off.

This team needs to take it to a higher level and maybe that game last night has shown them it's possible. I applaud Eakins for using that motivational tool.

The "squishing Eller under his toes" was fabricated for both the media and his players. He comes out fired up, looking like he's backing his boys 100%. Brilliant move by our young coach.

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#24 Pouzar99
October 23 2013, 12:10PM
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What did you think of Pitlick, Brian? I thought he played exactly the kind of game they wanted from him. I suspect that when Jonshuu and/or Gagner come back he is shifted down to the 4th line, where he probably belongs for now with his limited offensive upside. He is not a fighter, but a real banger who makes a good replacement for Brown, as he can actually play. With only 12 healthy forwards no one needs to go to OKC until Smyth is also back and Eager is most likely at this point. Despite his one moment of madness Jones played well. Of course another forward will likely be hurt by the time all three of those guys are back so maybe no one goes down, except a D man, as I doubt they will carry 8 for long.

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#25 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
October 23 2013, 12:15PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I agree with your analysis on the players Smid was terrific........so was Petry, looked all world out there.

Your comments regarding Eakins are way off the mark. If I were Eakins, I would have accepted the comments ( internally used them to my advantage) but NOT said anything to the media.

Eller simply said what everyone know, we have a junior coach and the lack of any systems are patently obvious to everyone. Why validate Eller by acknowledging his statements?

Bush league move.

if you were Eakins you wouldnt be on the internets pretending to know what the eff you were talking about.

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#26 Deke Rivers
October 23 2013, 12:25PM
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Eller called his team a bunch of Juniors. Someone had to respond and Eakins did. The fact he used it for motivation was great. You can't talk about not wanting to be pushed around and then let someone publicly trash talk the team. The people who thought it was a bush move are off base. Someone had to stick up for the players and the organization. Eakins saved Ference from having to do it.

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#27 Smokey
October 23 2013, 12:27PM
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Thought Eller's comment sounded like a nation reader. We've all been saying the Oilers play is confusing. He just articulated it nicely, problem was he shouldn't have. I don't see a point about Oilers fans spewing off trash talk when are bottom dweller towards him, saying our Jr. Team beat your team. I do wish Lars played for us, he's a beauty. Eakins also shoulda said nothing. Rookie coach, he will learn.

Pitlick has nice intangibles, skates and forechecks and hits everything he can. Simple effective hockey. Hope the offence comes down the road.

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#28 Rama Lama
October 23 2013, 12:40PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

if you were Eakins you wouldnt be on the internets pretending to know what the eff you were talking about.

Read what I said........I'm fine with him using it internally, but not through the media, like he did.

I'm not pretending to know anything but even a simpleton like you can see the evidence.......unless you are blind too!

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#29 Serious Gord
October 23 2013, 12:42PM
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Difficult to see how ellers comments were the motivator. He made those comments BEFORE the game. And the oil played - by all accounts - awfully - like a bunch of first year juniors in the first period. So, unless Eakins beat them over the head with the comments in the first intermission they had jack to do with what happened in the remaining two periods.

And three things happened after that intermission:

1. The oil played a better, more disciplined game.

2. The Canadiens completely lost their mojo - no hitting, ragged D, turnovers, etc. I bet that Canadiens fans (the ones in the arena were Uncharacteristically quiet) were quite irate after last nights game - I meant to listen in on one of their call-in shows but family commitments prevented it.

3. Price seemed to completely lose focus. Four goals in 18 shots )!!) this is very much a part if his MO BTW - every now and then he goes all mr Hyde in net.

Sure a win is a win, but good humour about it should be tempered by the fact that the opponent practically surrendered. Haven't seen a team collapse like that in a while with the possible exception of EDM vs NJ earlier this year.

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#30 lolhockey
October 23 2013, 12:42PM
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With Hall out for a while, who is going to step up and do the unsuccessful toe drags?

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#31 Rob...
October 23 2013, 12:49PM
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@GriffCity

"Also loved how after that brutal Gary by Jones he pots one and celly's so hard he busts Perron in the chops with his stick lol. "

It wasn't Jones' stick that hit Perron... though you're right that Jones was too busy celebrating to know where his own stick or arms were going. Good on him for getting that cough-up back.

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October 23 2013, 12:53PM
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@David S

Brilliant would've been if he said his piece to the media before the game, not after the players earned/gave him this opportunity. It wasn't Eakins who deserves the fruitbasket and bottle of wine.

What was it Tom Renney use to say, i'll stand behind you guys every step of the way....and when things aren't going as well, i'll stand in front of you. Something to that effect. Eakins appears to have it backwards. Spouting off after his players paved the way. Either way, hopefully we've seen the last of pulpit Eakins.

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#33 Oilers need Ogie Ogilthorpe!
October 23 2013, 12:53PM
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Lots of talk re. Jones's turnover. Bad turnover? Yes, but did you see the play Gallagher made? Pretty nice coming off the bench and getting to the spot to intercept the pass. How about the nearly identical pass by Duncan Keith last night. Big differences: 1. Star defenseman vs. fringe NHLer, and 2. The opponent didn't have to do anything to get that puck - he was just waiting for it at the blue line.

Do I like Jones's pass? Nope, but if Gallagher doesn't make a great play, it's all good

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#34 Benny Botts
October 23 2013, 01:02PM
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I loved what Eakins said, he was fired up and stood up for his team. I think Brian can attest, but a team can really rally around that. For me personally, I loved watching my coach stand up for us. It can go a long way for a team like the Oil.

Keep it up Dallas!

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#35 Benny Botts
October 23 2013, 01:05PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Brilliant would've been if he said his piece to the media before the game, not after the players earned/gave him this opportunity. It wasn't Eakins who deserves the fruitbasket and bottle of wine.

What was it Tom Renney use to say, i'll stand behind you guys every step of the way....and when things aren't going as well, i'll stand in front of you. Something to that effect. Eakins appears to have it backwards. Spouting off after his players paved the way. Either way, hopefully we've seen the last of pulpit Eakins.

So Eakins is suppose to run out and create a media scrum before the game?? Come on man...

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#36 HallFever
October 23 2013, 01:27PM
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@Next up, is Connor McJesus.

I think its time for your pills.

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#37 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
October 23 2013, 01:39PM
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Speaking of pills. I see the CCI has a new recruit. Seen the Blue Clipper (Leroy Blugh) hanging around there my last couple visits. Best wishes to the Blugh family during these difficult times.

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#38 Old School G
October 23 2013, 01:45PM
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We're 3-6-1, and are currently coveting the longest playoff drought in the NHL. The only way to get some respect from the rest of the league is to consistently work hard every night and make it back to the postseason. Until then how upset can we get about Lars Eller's comment?

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#39 TigerUnderGlass
October 23 2013, 01:56PM
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@Old School G

We're 3-6-1, and are currently coveting the longest playoff drought in the NHL.

I'm not sure I understand.

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#40 Serious Gord
October 23 2013, 02:06PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Brilliant would've been if he said his piece to the media before the game, not after the players earned/gave him this opportunity. It wasn't Eakins who deserves the fruitbasket and bottle of wine.

What was it Tom Renney use to say, i'll stand behind you guys every step of the way....and when things aren't going as well, i'll stand in front of you. Something to that effect. Eakins appears to have it backwards. Spouting off after his players paved the way. Either way, hopefully we've seen the last of pulpit Eakins.

Well put.

It seems that oilers management has a bad habit of overstating things in public:

Six rings Lowe

BOLD MacT

And now

Wine and Roses Eakins

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#41 Old School G
October 23 2013, 02:16PM
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@TigerUnderGlass

We've earned all the criticism and disrespect that comes our way, no use getting upset about it until we actually prove ourselves in this league.

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#42 TigerUnderGlass
October 23 2013, 02:26PM
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Old School G wrote:

We've earned all the criticism and disrespect that comes our way, no use getting upset about it until we actually prove ourselves in this league.

Please re-read the line I quoted from your comment. I was being a jerk, not asking a sincere question.

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#43 Old School G
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Nah, I'm good.

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#44 Ari Gold
October 23 2013, 03:34PM
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Old School G wrote:

We've earned all the criticism and disrespect that comes our way, no use getting upset about it until we actually prove ourselves in this league.

Wise bloody words. I 100% agree.

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#45 Ari Gold
October 23 2013, 03:40PM
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lolhockey wrote:

With Hall out for a while, who is going to step up and do the unsuccessful toe drags?

Enter Nail Yakupov. Last year I'd have said Sean Horcoff but he doesn't have the toe-drag in his software. He was stuck in NHLPA 96.

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#46 Wonger
October 23 2013, 04:46PM
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Brian Sutherby wrote:

I'm obviously kidding and greatly appreciate your interest in my stuff.

As for the tilt, it was a decent scrap. Just happened to get tagged with one. Part of it.

No problem or offence taken! Had to do some work work and house work before Mrs. Wonger gets home, or I would be in big trouble! A mad Mrs. Wonger is scarier than Donald Brashear - when you have to line up against him after running one of the skill guys on his team! Never a good ending!

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#47 Wonger
October 23 2013, 04:53PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

Somebody has a man-crush on Sutherby.......

I don't know him but have a great respect for all players in the NHL who played the same role as he did! He was a COMPLETE HOCKEY player who made a big difference to the success of his team, and like others didn't always get the credit they deserved! I know a few players who played against Brian Sutherby in the NHL and AHL and they echo my opinion! No man crush here but a lot of RESPECT!!! I heard he was a great teammate who always had your back!!!

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#48 Mac962
October 23 2013, 05:14PM
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Wonger wrote:

I don't know him but have a great respect for all players in the NHL who played the same role as he did! He was a COMPLETE HOCKEY player who made a big difference to the success of his team, and like others didn't always get the credit they deserved! I know a few players who played against Brian Sutherby in the NHL and AHL and they echo my opinion! No man crush here but a lot of RESPECT!!! I heard he was a great teammate who always had your back!!!

Make sure to rinse.

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#49 DSF
October 23 2013, 05:48PM
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Mac962 wrote:

Make sure to rinse.

Make sure you wash!

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#50 Anonymoue
October 23 2013, 05:59PM
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DSF wrote:

Make sure you wash!

Watch Buffalo-Boston starting in 5. Scott and Thornton are gonna go on their first shift! Bell 226.

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