I have a bad feeling about this

Jonathan Willis
October 26 2013 05:33PM

The Edmonton Oilers had a pretty decent game. Really they did. Scout's honour. 

They lost anyway, and that's getting to be an ugly trend.

The Loss To Phoenix

Dallas Eakins said basically the same thing after the game.

Eakins avoided placing blame on goaltender Jason LaBarbera, instead saying that the Oilers need to get better at blocking those point shots. While that may be true, and it's certainly true that some of those outside shots were deflected, LaBarbera allowed four of five goals from far outside the scoring chances area.

And, just to add injury to insult, Tyler Pitlick scored his first NHL goal but then left the game on crutches after taking an awkward hipcheck. 

A one-goal loss to Phoenix isn't a huge deal, but the trouble is that the hole the Oilers are in gets deeper by the day.

The Problems

  • Over the last five seasons (including pro-rating Minnesota's 2012-13 pace) the eight place team in the Western Conference has averaged between 94 and 95 points. That means the Oilers need to record something like 88 points over their final 70 games - which assuming an average rate of overtime losses works out to a 40-22-8 record the rest of the way. Even if you believe (as I do) that the Oilers are significantly better than the record to date, that's a lot of ground to make up.
  • The goaltending has been flat-out bad. Devan Dubnyk seems to have rediscovered his form of the last few seasons, but Jason LaBarbera has yet to have a good game for Edmonton. At age 33 he's a little young to be losing it, so there's got to be at least a decent chance he bounces back but it's been ugly so far. I do think the Oilers move to add a goalie at some point but for right now the most important thing is Dubnyk playing as well as his long-term track record says he should.
  • The injuries up front are getting silly. As Bob Stauffer tweeted after the game, Pitlick is the ninth forward on an NHL contract to be out. He joins Taylor Hall, Sam Gagner, Ryan Smyth, Jesse Joensuu, Ryan Hamilton, Steve MacIntyre, Ryan Martindale and Curtis Hamilton. If I had to guess I'd say Linus Omark is the next call-up; remarkably the Oilers will still have two plausible call-ups on the farm (Anton Lander and Andrew Miller) if they make that choice.
  • The penalty kill is a major concern, too. No team in the NHL is as likely to allow an opposition shot attempt 4-on-5 as the Oilers. It's not just a case of the goalies needing to stop more shots (though that has been a factor); it's a case where the entire unit just hasn't been good enough. I can't help wondering if the decision to work in a bunch of skill guys into the rotation is part of the problem here; the Oilers are leaning pretty heavily on inexperienced personnel. 
  • I'm less worried about the power play. A year ago, the Oilers scored on 16.9 percent of the shots they took (while not really generating a lot of shots); this year shot generation is up but the Oilers are clicking at just a 6.6 percent rate (meaning that any shot last year was more than twice as likely to be a goal as any shot this year).

Add a deep hole early in the year to a bunch of injuries to bad goaltending to struggling special teams and the Oilers chances of coming away with a playoff berth this season look pretty grim. Some of it will self-correct (the power play and possibly the goaltending), some of it needs help from the coaches (the penalty kill) and some of it (the injuries and the early hole) just needs to be overcome.

Put it all together and this looks like a season on its way to going pear-shaped, despite the team as a whole being significantly better than it was a year ago.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 james_dean
October 26 2013, 06:52PM
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FireKLowe wrote:

JW WTF are you smoking? The team sucks period. You're just as big a homie as Stauffer!

If you dont like it dont read it @sshole

Willis is a boss.

also last I checked there is only one person working in hockey....

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#52 Spydyr
October 26 2013, 07:27PM
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ngj wrote:

Would you give your head a shake. With three wins in succession the team would be in 18th place and three points out of the play-offs.

What is restricting success right now is the PK and PP. They have to modify the systems they are using to make those work.

Coaching needs to realize systems and player combos are not working. Having Gagner and Hall back would do wonders also.

Give my head a shake.Really,have not paid attention the last seven years?

You are saying if they only put together a three game win streak.Are you assuming every team in front of them goes on a three game losing streak?

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#53 etownman
October 26 2013, 08:18PM
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Oiler fans (?) need to get a grip! Certain things this team needs (goaltending) isn't going to happen over night! Watched Ebs, Nuge, Perron today among the few & loved what I saw! A couple key additions & this is a different ending! Love what Gazdic & Acton bring, big time compete & Oiler pride, love it!

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#54 Throttlehead
October 26 2013, 09:42PM
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The elephant in the room is goaltending, it is flat out terrible, Eakins won't say anything because it would take the minuscule amount of confidence that these goalies have and kill it. If we don't get a goalie and soon, we will be in and remain in the bottom 5. What has changed in coaching to where the PP and PK have sunk to the worst in the league? I assume we are trying to teach the young and the restless how to PK, I am not sure why its these guys. If its not the GM, not the coach, we have 3 1rst over all drafts, what is it exactly? The POHO is the same, the assistants, and whats with the goalie coach. I'm done whining :)

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#55 Andrew
October 26 2013, 10:11PM
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Dear bre're Eakins, Mayhap you should have left the special teams alone. They were working fine last season before you showed up looking to re-invent the wheel. I'm not sure of the exact % of roster overturn but I would have taken a few more baby steps before I torched the season with this lame-ass display of beer league hockey at $225.00+ a ticket.

In closing, if I were you I would ask Santa for a competent goaltender or two and a new pro-scouting squad. Your odds of asking Santa can't be any worse than waiting for Mact to get off his duff and respond to a critical need. I'm not liking your shelflife.

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#56 Woogie63
October 26 2013, 06:07PM
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The team seems to lack structure, and it hard to understand what the team personality is. In the next ten games, what will Eakins and the other coaches do differently?

Would it make sense to bring in a seasoned coach as a consultant? What is Marc Crawford doing?

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#57 james_dean
October 26 2013, 07:48PM
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Mac is getting more grey

Dallas and ryan getzlafs' hairlines will soon show resemblance at this rate

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#58 Rheal1
October 26 2013, 08:02PM
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The Oilers again losing by one goal....... Yup...... Who's the day in, day out team leader here? Who's hungry enough to be a winner? KLOWE? Another top 5 pick at the 2014 draft. And again in 2015. Then a rebuild.

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#59 vetinari
October 26 2013, 08:47PM
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Rheal1 wrote:

Huge and credible rumour this evening that a Yakupov trade to Montreal for Budaj, Diaz and a 2nd round pick about to be finalized...

Must be speculation from an Eastern source because Yak has too much long term potential to give up on to get back a 31 year old goalie who will be a UFA in two years and yet another defenceman... also, we're at 48 contracts so I can't see us pushing that number up without darn good reason... and Montreal doesn't have a lot of cap room to take on any salary, thus, I can't see them trading away a decent backup who makes $1.4M/season for Yak's salary hit plus the cost of acquiring another NHL ready backup.

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#60 Zamboni Driver
October 26 2013, 11:07PM
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First time I'm going to be critical of the coach (though I don't know WTF our 'system' is in our own zone)...

How he handled the goalie switch was a joke.

Pull him or don't. And after a temper tantrum from your career backup - some guy whose name we will all forget next year - you PUT HIM BACK IN THE GAME?

What he should have done was send him on a one way to the ECHL...

Likely where he belongs, sure.

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#61 Mikey
October 26 2013, 07:13PM
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jl wrote:

Nice to see not much has changed around these parts you guys still suck.

Shocking since in the off season it was mentioned on many occasions this group is a dynasty in the making.

Your franchise is a a complete joke I hope you guys show something im getting tired of you guus celebrating high draft picks.

Hey man you're right. Except what gives you the right to pop on here to bash? Who is your team?

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#62 TayLordBalls
October 26 2013, 07:16PM
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what a gong show!

I put the blame squarely on the coach for trying to force ANOTHER new defensive system on the players.

Why not gradually introduce this new swarm system?

Or better yet - get back to traditional defense.

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#63 **
October 26 2013, 10:33PM
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"Add a deep hole early in the year to a bunch of injuries to bad goaltending to struggling special teams and the Oilers chances of coming away with a playoff berth this season look pretty grim."

In other words, just another Oilers season.

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#64 Loweblows
October 27 2013, 09:09AM
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Lars eller was wrong. We play like a ECHL team.

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#65 just plain bad
October 27 2013, 09:52AM
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eskimos 3-14 fc eddies 2-6-4 oilers 3-8-1

8 wins of a possible 41

Tell me again,city of what?

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#66 oilerman53
October 26 2013, 06:59PM
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Holy crap this team is super crappy this year! No structured game at all and this whole swarm defence is just putrid. Is it the players not buying into the system or is it the whole thing in general. All the right things are said in the offseason and we getthis sickening brand of hockey where the team is letting in an average of four goals a game.

Way too many stick infractions as well as holding penalties are being called against arguable one of the fastest teams in the league. Who knows where this is leading to but its getting ridiculous, the losing is getting worst and worst every game. I have no clue anymore, my frustration level is at its peak after this game.

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#67 Alsker
October 26 2013, 08:54PM
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DSF wrote:

What makes you think it will?

For the most part, the Oilers have been playing EC cream puffs.

They have a ton of future games against the Sharks, Canucks, Kings and Ducks.

They're done.

Tell me DSF when are you going to get a Vulture as your avatar seeing as you`re insulting the eagle. He doesn`t pick at the rotting bones of those things already dead and decaying..we`re done, maybe. Regardless of our schedule, the way we don`t play the game it would be unlikely we win more than we lose, no matter who we play. Therefore your reasoning tho not inaccurate it is really be better off posting that statement somewhere on an Atlantic-Metro. division site.

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#68 @Oilanderp
October 26 2013, 09:49PM
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The only problem with this season is if you thought the Oilers had a good chance at making the post-season. I did not, and so am not that upset. I am actually starting to enjoy watching this team again though. You can see their improvement from the past few years. I see progress. I like it. I would suggest to stop overanalyzing the team and step back and enjoy the progress...we're finally coming out of the desert.

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#69 bwar
October 26 2013, 10:08PM
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TRADE EVERYONE. The only logical solution.

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#70 Serious Gord
October 27 2013, 07:57AM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

I'm depressed, but not so depressed to crap on our team, and be so fickle as to lose all hope/faith 12 games into an 82 game season.

Our worst season in history we started 6-3-1, who knows...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

It's not fickle it's math and the historical record.

No team in the modern era has ever come from dead last on Nov 1 and made the playoffs. Very few - 3 (?) have ever done it when they were 5 or more back on Nov one. The oil is 8 back with St. Louis having three games at hand. And two back of Dallas and they have two games at hand. And the oil have only two game left before nov1. Thus it is a near impossibility to make the playoffs.

So who is being fickle in light of those facts?

Time to take your realism medicine.

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#71 ngj
October 26 2013, 07:12PM
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@Spydyr

Would you give your head a shake. With three wins in succession the team would be in 18th place and three points out of the play-offs.

What is restricting success right now is the PK and PP. They have to modify the systems they are using to make those work.

Coaching needs to realize systems and player combos are not working. Having Gagner and Hall back would do wonders also.

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#72 Alsker
October 26 2013, 07:22PM
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TayLordBalls wrote:

what a gong show!

I put the blame squarely on the coach for trying to force ANOTHER new defensive system on the players.

Why not gradually introduce this new swarm system?

Or better yet - get back to traditional defense.

The fault lies on the GM, he hires a coach to install a system he believes he has the players to make such system work.. Hence why they interviewed multiple candidates for the job. Oh wait, that would have included King Lowe, ok the GM`s off the hook!!

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#73 Greg
October 26 2013, 08:12PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Newsflash :It has been bad since 2006.People are just starting to get fed up.You can only sell hope flavoured kool-aid for so long.It appears as that time has come.

The team just does not know how to win .They can't hold a lead and the team lacks leadership.

I have never seen a year until this one when the Oilers were out of the playoffs before it snowed.Don't fool yourself they are already too many points back.A team with this many glaring weaknesses can not come back from this hole they dug.

That is a very sad commentary on the so called "braintrust". What will it take for a regime change Katz?Ten years outside the playoffs?

Why wouldn't Katz love the taste of "hope flavoured Kool Aid". As long as this crap sells out he's fine with what Klowe is doing... At least is sure seems that way.... It's sad

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#74 Alsker
October 26 2013, 09:20PM
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Loweblows wrote:

Mark february 3rd on your calender folks because thats when we play Buffalo for the "battle of the basement". And with the number one pick in the 2014 entry draft the Edmonton Oilers proudly select......

Man I truly hope we dont hear those words(unless via trade) again for a decade or better. Clean house Mr.Katz, find a real hockey dude, not a former cup winner, but a true student of the game, an enthusiast, someone NOT busy mulling over what was rather with what will be and will ALWAYS be!!!!!!

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#75 spliff
October 26 2013, 10:10PM
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@Greg

Katz must be an ultra-competitive person, who is a admitted Oiler fan. Therefore, I'm sure this constant losing is bothering him as well. I can't believe that he enjoys investing so much money and time into a perpetually losing organization. There will come a time (I pray) when the chickens will come home to roost for KLost and pals.

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#76 Rdubb
October 27 2013, 07:32AM
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WHAT IN THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO OUR SPECIAL TEAMS? The past few seasons they were in the top half & even as good as the top 5. So with that kind of "production" out of the special teams, why has Eakins decided to "switch" things up? There were far more serious problems that those two areas, wasn't there? I know I have said this before, but watching the PK last night made me mad, and down-right PISSED...I don't want to name players here...while on the PK, the PHX point man had the puck, and both forwards moved over to the side of the ice where the puck was, pretty easy pass to the opposite defenseman, puck moved down low (or shot), and a few seconds later, GOAL. And this happened on almost every single PK, maybe PHX didn't always score, but both forwards converting on the d-man with the puck, he makes a simple pass over, and now it is basically a 4 on 2. I don't know it that is this stupid "swarm" defense, because if it is, Eakins better change it FAST. Just Watch the Oilers PK today, you'll see the same dumb ass thing happening over and over. I am not an NHL coach and never will be, but if I can this being a stupid play, I am sure coaches like Suter, Tippit and whomever else can see this too, and easily break down the Oil system. Eakins has his fingers in to many things, let the guys who ran the PK and PP go back and do it the way they have for the past 3 yrs and get the PK & PP back on tract & we'll stop losing these games we should be winning.

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#77 Alsker
October 26 2013, 07:19PM
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Spydyr wrote:

The only off ice personal on the Oilers that should have their job next year is Joey Moss.

Yah, Joey`s safe, maybe they give kLowe an office in the fire escape stairwell to keep him happy, though Im not sure WHO really looks after the business end of the Oil, but he(she) should decide who stays. Heck, can`t hurt, grab the first shoppping cart homeless dude to pass by their doors and ask them what to do, can`t be worse than what 6rings has done.

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#78 nick
October 26 2013, 07:27PM
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I believe that Eakins does not know how to manage a bench. He talks about blocking more shots, he has one of the best shot blockers in the league that last 3 years in Smid and he plays Belov more. He plays the young stars on the PK and clearly that is not working. Eakins has this team so mixed we don't stand a chance in most games. Very bad decision bringing this monor league coach to the Big Leagues. Just like some players are good AHL players and can't play in the NHL same thing with coaches. Clearly Eakins is a career AHL coach.

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#79 OILERSORDEATH
October 27 2013, 07:51AM
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Jesus the Hockey Gods are ruthless bastards!! This is just flat out rediculous. Somethings got to give soon.

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#80 Hammer
October 26 2013, 07:08PM
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Kevin Lowe, Mac T, Kelly Buchburger, Steve Smith all losers!!! They need winners like Gretzky, Messier they are winners!!! Dallas Eakins needs to pick his own assistants!!! Katz is going to need to buy all the drugs from his Rexall as Kevin Lowe and loser company are driving the Oilers into the ground

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#81 Alsker
October 26 2013, 07:32PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Imagine how bad this would be if Lowe hadn't fired all the equipment staff years ago. Stafford and Sparky, what a couple loafers those guys were.

That bold move never gets the credit it deserves. Keep the faith brothers. Better days ahead in 5 more yrs.

5 more years, at my age thats a death sentence not an ETA. Man my son has seen Katzs plans for downtown in his office and it looks awesome. But DAMN, hockey is more important than municipal growth, forget rebuilding Edmonchuck and worry about winning the Goddamn cup!!!!!!!

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#82 Rheal1
October 26 2013, 08:20PM
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Huge and credible rumour this evening that a Yakupov trade to Montreal for Budaj, Diaz and a 2nd round pick about to be finalized...

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#83 Alsker
October 26 2013, 08:39PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We're both in the same boat. We are fortunate to have seen one of the best teams ever assembled in this league. My how the mighty have fallen.

Did your son say anything about the private parking and elevator being built just for Katz and his entourage? Gone will be the days of having rif raf breathing the same air.

No mention of private elevators but did let slip a new helipad landing zone(im a huge FSX enthusiast). Funny though, my dad cursed the leafs decisions all throught the early 70s before he went back to europe. Doubt he would have believed he proud laughs would have gone this long without even a sniff. My kids were thrilled with '06 and thought it was the beginning of the 80s again, alas my oldest is now a cansuck fan and his brother a rangers fan. Such shame, such shame.

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#84 hall2010
October 26 2013, 11:05PM
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problems with the oil are as followed:

1. rookie head coach playing an inferior swarm defense system.

2. mediocre to poor goaltending contributed by the pathetic swarm system (ss)

3.penalty kill stinks b/c swarm system earlier on (which has been modified) and now offensive players on the pk...joke!! where is lennart petrell...haha!

4.PP stinks b/c we need krueger. MacT. only did 1/2 right, he should have kept ralph as the HC and made dallas his associate coach and then told SS AND KB to lose his phone number -- or higher an legit/establish head coach.

5. the way i see it, we have had a bunch coaches over the last 3 years, and only Renney was legit. keep kreuger and eakins, make them assistants -- tell smith and buch to get the h3ll out edm. and hire a legit nhl head coach, heck i'm desperate enough that as soon as dallas is fired, i'd even have MacT. reinstated. he was the last coach that had some success ie. 2006

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#85 MessyEH!
October 27 2013, 01:56AM
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We need one more bonafide top 2 defender.

And a new goalie coach.

Fire bucky and smith.

I miss blaming Horcoff and Whitney.

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#86 oilers2k10
October 26 2013, 07:24PM
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I think Yakupov had a decent game, and him and RNH are finally starting to develop a little chemistry, not just off that pass Yakupov made to RNH that led to the goal, but after the first period the two were getting chances together shift after shift..

So the answer is Bad goaltending, but who's out there? Could the Oilers possibly deal this years first round pick and a B level prospect for a number one goalie?

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#87 Quicksilver ballet
October 26 2013, 07:48PM
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Alsker wrote:

5 more years, at my age thats a death sentence not an ETA. Man my son has seen Katzs plans for downtown in his office and it looks awesome. But DAMN, hockey is more important than municipal growth, forget rebuilding Edmonchuck and worry about winning the Goddamn cup!!!!!!!

We're both in the same boat. We are fortunate to have seen one of the best teams ever assembled in this league. My how the mighty have fallen.

Did your son say anything about the private parking and elevator being built just for Katz and his entourage? Gone will be the days of having rif raf breathing the same air.

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#88 Alsker
October 26 2013, 10:19PM
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bwar wrote:

TRADE EVERYONE. The only logical solution.

Now there's a idea, no wait, an entire fansite devoted to that 1 idea!!!

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#89 Alsker
October 26 2013, 10:25PM
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nick wrote:

Yes they do have a new coach but they were smart enough to hire a proven NHL coach not a career AHL coach that thinks he knows it all. Oilers should have gone after a coach that knows how to handle an NHL bench.

Agreed, cansucks have vet team, coachable team, good goaltending, proven system. Tell me, wouldn't you hate to be the guy that walks in and tells some 22 year old millionaire to get his sh^t together or else. Way too many chosen ones in our dressing room. No proven winning vets to slap them around, no accountability from the top down. Why should Ebs,RNH,Hall,Yak, etc. give a rats ass to what Eakins says, its not like kLowe ever walked the walk!!!

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#90 Andrew
October 26 2013, 10:28PM
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spliff wrote:

Katz must be an ultra-competitive person, who is a admitted Oiler fan. Therefore, I'm sure this constant losing is bothering him as well. I can't believe that he enjoys investing so much money and time into a perpetually losing organization. There will come a time (I pray) when the chickens will come home to roost for KLost and pals.

As I see it Mr. Katz only provable competitive edge is collecting "He" of the 6 and accumulating the most overall #1 draft picks in 10 yrs. Now we're talking some serious competition.

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#91 Walter Sobchak
October 26 2013, 11:20PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

First time I'm going to be critical of the coach (though I don't know WTF our 'system' is in our own zone)...

How he handled the goalie switch was a joke.

Pull him or don't. And after a temper tantrum from your career backup - some guy whose name we will all forget next year - you PUT HIM BACK IN THE GAME?

What he should have done was send him on a one way to the ECHL...

Likely where he belongs, sure.

FYI.

He had no time out's left, he pulled the goalie to give his team a time out then he put him back in.

He mentions it in his post game on the Edmonton Oilers main site.

http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=468870&navid=DL|EDM|home

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#92 Quicksilver ballet
October 26 2013, 11:47PM
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Why

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everyone....

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#93 Teddy
October 26 2013, 11:47PM
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Eakins coaching results are making me think Tambs, Renney. Quinn and Krueger are looking like progressive, creative, hockey dynamos by comparison.

Sad.

Keep it up Mr.Eakins because I hear you can get some real tasty veggies in the ECHL. And that is where you are very likely headed. I give you another 10 mos of the current situation and you may want to line up a good mover.

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#94 Lower lows
October 26 2013, 07:39PM
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At the expense of us fans I appreciate that management has decided that now is a good time to experiment with the PK and PP. Eakins looks tired. Wonder if he is sleeping at night. I do like him but what worked last year seems completely broken this year.

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#95 S cottV
October 26 2013, 07:42PM
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Have a feeling that Eakins may not work out, even though for perhaps some of the wrong reasons. Risky MacT move bringing in an unproven rookie Coach. With a veteran Coach in this situation - MacT would be much better insulated and maybe a better feeling from all concerned that the situation could be worked through. No way this team goes 40-22-8 to make the playoffs, with a 5 to 4 crap shoot hockey culture. Unfortunately MacT has painted himself in a corner with a declaration of immediate results this year. He may have to get his shoes dirty...

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#96 etownman
October 26 2013, 07:42PM
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At the game today & yotes fans were shouting shoot as soon as their team had the puck, what does that tell you! We need no b_llsh_t goaltending! You could see the boys sag as soon as those first three went in! its' hard to fix that problem right now, but that's it, confidence in the tenders, & it isn't there! Concentrate on the goal out from now on, everything else will take it's place!

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#97 Rod from Viking
October 26 2013, 09:17PM
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@Alsker

The present avatar isn't too far off, an eagle eats more food killed by other things than it kills its self. Whats worse than that is how good the Canuck's are doing and how fast they have embraced the system implemented by their new coaching staff.

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#98 David S
October 26 2013, 11:00PM
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Rheal1 wrote:

Huge and credible rumour this evening that a Yakupov trade to Montreal for Budaj, Diaz and a 2nd round pick about to be finalized...

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#99 @Oilanderp
October 27 2013, 08:27AM
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Throttlehead wrote:

At this point in the season compared to last season, where exactly have we progressed?

GA- worse wins- worse PP- worse PK -worse

We just have a better car salesman telling us the so called positives after the game.

Have you watched the games? The best statistical tool I have to prove progress in the team is my wife: the amount of times she shhhhushes me due to my incredulous screaming at the TV has markedly decreased. It still happens, but not nearly as much!

If you want to feel depressed or angry about this team you can find whatever reason you need: it's there. All I know is compared to 3 years ago this team appears to be on the verge of actually playing hockey. I'm enjoying it in the here and now, and encouraged because given the age of the team, it will only get better.

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#100 Time Travelling Sean
October 27 2013, 11:06AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

It's not fickle it's math and the historical record.

No team in the modern era has ever come from dead last on Nov 1 and made the playoffs. Very few - 3 (?) have ever done it when they were 5 or more back on Nov one. The oil is 8 back with St. Louis having three games at hand. And two back of Dallas and they have two games at hand. And the oil have only two game left before nov1. Thus it is a near impossibility to make the playoffs.

So who is being fickle in light of those facts?

Time to take your realism medicine.

Who said anything about making the playoffs? I'm more concerned with effort/competitiveness.

I meant being fickle with regards to supporting the team, we say we are loyal, crap on Lowe sure, but Yakupov has had a tough start to the season, so let's trade him/he's going to the KHL/should have drafted Murray.

If Hemmer wasn't doing well we would be screaming for his head/Dubnyk was one of our better players last year and has 3 rough games and so let's hack his head off too.

The games haven't been awful, the only ones in where we were truly outplayed and outclassed was Vancouver, and Pittsburgh.

And about games in hand...there is 70 games left, 72 for Dallas, don't tell me it is impossible to be competitive for a playoff spot when there is 70 games left

We've had below par goaltending and awful Special Teams, but our PP chances created is better in volume this year to last, so it's only about time their chances start going in, and Dubnyk is looking back to normal so who knows? It isn't mathematically impossible to make the playoffs by Nov.1, nor miss them.

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