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Lowetide
November 10 2013 08:28PM

The Ladislav Smid exit kicks off 'trading season' in Edmonton, the annual sell-off of actual NHL players for picks and prospects. It has to be a bitter pill for the organization, but it's important for them to make rational decisions and receive value for their veterans. Here's a look at some players who may be headed out of Edmonton long before the deadline.

WHO'S AVAILABLE?

  1. R Ales Hemsky (19, 3-6-9 -12). The veteran winger is spending his 10th winter with the club, but most believe he'll be sent away some time over the winter. The playoffs are not going to happen for the Oilers, and there's a growing number of teams who are losing touch with the front of the pack in their respective divisions. Those teams--especially the ones with offensive problems--may see Hemsky as an attractive option. If Edmonton can keep some of the cap hit, that makes him even more attractive. Estimated value: 2014 1st or 2nd rd pick.
  2. D Nick Schultz (17, 0-1-1 -1). Stay-at-home veteran defenseman always have tremendous value at the deadline, and the appeal of Schultz is the expiring contract. Many Oiler fans were shocked by the Smid return, but long term deals for defensive defensemen reduces value (clubs don't want their cap tied up that way). Schultz can slot right in and play at the NHL level, and that makes him a player of interest. Estimated value: 2014 3rd rd pick.
  3. F Ryan Jones (11, 2-1-3 +3).Having a nice season, Jones is a veteran who can jump in and contribute on more than one line, and his offense is a nice kicker. Estimated value: 2014 4th rd pick.
  4. Any of the goalies who play well. It's open season for goalies in Edmonton. If one of Dubnyk or Bryzgalov plays well enough to attract a team's interest (and the Oil don't feel he's in the future plans), they could be gone.

THE HEART OF THE ORDER

Craig MacTavish has been sending away some players some of us thought were part of the future (Smid most recently), so we're getting a better view of how the new GM sees this team. We're all going to have different names (I suspect) here and there, but the heart of the cluster from my point of view is this:

  1. Taylor Hall
  2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
  3. Jordan Eberle
  4. Nail Yakupov
  5. David Perron
  6. Sam Gagner
  7. Boyd Gordon
  8. Jeff Petry (RFA)
  9. Justin Schultz (RFA)
  10. Andrew Ference

That's 10 players, three of whom (Perron, Gordon and Ference) were acquired by MacTavish as GM and two of whom (Yakupov, Justin Schultz) were procured by the organization with MacTavish in the fold.

ANYONE EMERGING THIS YEAR?

  1. D Anton Belov: He's been a revelation.
  2. C Mark Arcobello: I think he's shown enough to be considered a strong candidate for next year's roster.
  3. L Jesse Joensuu: Looked good early, injuries have impacted his season.
  4. C Will Acton: Brings some interesting things, difficult to know how well he's playing because of the enforcer nature of linemates
  5. L Luke Gazdic: Young and tough, he's done well in the enforcer role.
  6. D Phil Larsen: Looked good in early exposure, jury is out as things roll along.
  7. D Taylor Fedun: As with Larsen, we'll have to wait and see. Hit and miss.

BUBBLING UNDER

  1. D Darnell Nurse: He got a long look at training camp this season, and could make the club in 2014 fall.
  2. D Oscar Klefbom: 1st rd pick in 2011 will probably see action in the NHL this year.
  3. D Martin Marincin: In his second season in the AHL, working toward NHL employment
  4. R Tyler Pitlick: Looked good in an NHL cup of coffee.
  5. F Roman Horak: May see NHL time this season, is a better player than some current Oilers.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

 Rebuild. I hate that word.

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#1 Greg
November 10 2013, 09:11PM
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i cant believe i'm saying this, but come this saturday i hope the flames kick our a**. just for the sole purpose that Burke can rub Klowe's face in it!

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#2 BloodyEyes13
November 10 2013, 10:15PM
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The Oilers need to fire Kelly Buchberger and Steve Smith. They need to go out and find two new assistant coaches, one of which needs to be strong at creating & implementing defensive systems & working with the penalty killers, and the other needs to specialize on power-plays & shootouts. They also need to get out there and find a goalie coach, one that can teach our 6'5 goalie to play the proper angles & read the plays.....Dallas Eakins (IMO) is the proper man to run the ship, but he needs the appropriate supporting coaching staff that can help him, as a rookie NHL coach, get this "ship" turned around.

The Oilers have enough talent to build a winner, but they definitely need to put this 80's run & gun system behind them, and start playing a much more responsible defensive system on a nightly basis. It's great that we have all of these young point producers, but if they can't defend our own net, it's pointless.

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#3 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 10 2013, 08:44PM
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Damn we suck.

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#4 DSF
November 10 2013, 09:50PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

I've always been curious. Would you like to see the oilers improve or do you like watching them fail like this? Just curious if your a jaded oilers fan or a fan of some other team relishing in their misery.

I can't tell if your a troll or just past the point of fed up. If this ship ever rights itself where do your allegiances lie.?

I've was a fan from the WHA days and a season ticket holder for many years.

I would love to see the Oilers improve but, as you may have guessed from my posts, I don't think there is the remotest chance the team can be a winner again as long as Kevin Lowe and his his Band of Bozos ® is driving the bus.

Everything I've seen throughout Lowe's tenure convinces me he doesn't have a clue about what he's doing.

And, yet, there he is.

As for the future, I've pretty much become a free agent fan, cheering not for any particular team but appreciating the team management that knows what it's doing and the special players who exceed expectations.

Being freed from the fetters of fandom actually lets you appreciate a beautiful game on another level entirely.

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#5 Cameron
November 10 2013, 08:51PM
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If indeed, we have to rebuild the rebuild, you surely can't let the current senior management redo what they buggered up in the first place....they can't have a do-over can they?

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#6 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
November 10 2013, 09:13PM
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And the worst management group in hockey gets to continue a rebuild. Showing off their skill and getting rid of players for even less in return.

a first rounder for hemsky???? What are you smoking and will you share?

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#7 The Oilers Shot Clock
November 10 2013, 08:39PM
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Remember when you said last year that the rebuild was going to be impossible to mess up with all the talent we have? It got messed up.

One of the kids needs to go in a hockey trade. Something we need. Something reliable.

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#8 Dave
November 10 2013, 11:08PM
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Can we please trade Sam Gagner ? He is far from being untouchable.

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#9 freelancer
November 10 2013, 08:49PM
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I know I'm speaking blasphemy on this site but Eberle should be traded soon. He's a great player but his skill set matches that of most of our top 6 combined with he plays a less physical game than players like Hall or Perron. Obviously this combination isn't working. A big shake up is needed.

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#10 vetinari
November 10 2013, 09:11PM
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AAARRRGGGHHHH. More draft picks? Can't we even trade for NHL players anymore? What the h3ll do we even have professional scouts for at this point?

Shouldn't Katz maybe get an external review of the Oilers' operations to get an objective opinion as to what is wrong with this blasted team?

Sorry about the rant but it's hard to watch the modest gains of last year somehow get erased and the team slide further into the dumpster...

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#11 Burnward
November 10 2013, 08:59PM
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@Cameron

Re-rebuild the current re-rebuild?

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#12 Hockey Problems
November 11 2013, 07:20AM
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A heads up for all the posters on here hoping on drafting McDavid in June. Connor McDavid is NOTdraft eligible until 2015!!! That would require the Oil to finish in 30th place NEXT year (2014/15) too. Please quit talking about getting McDavid in the draft, wrong year. It makes you look foolish.

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#13 Chet134
November 10 2013, 09:11PM
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@YFC Prez

Lowe won't get fired. Katz is making money. If Katz was losing money heads would role.

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#14 YFC Prez
November 10 2013, 10:58PM
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@outdoorzguy

Ahh the beauty of the net. It lets us all be jerks without consequence due to the anonymity we all have.

Let's try not to forget that the writers are using their real identities and are doing their jobs. Kinda sucks being told your work is a waste of time by random fictionally named people especially when the writers use real names. Unless your name is outdoorzguy , in which case please accept my sincere apologies for my misunderstandings.

Why you being a big meanie anyway ?

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#15 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 08:41AM
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You know who is untouchable. Gretzky he was untouchable. Oh wait.

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#16 Hockey fan 1976
November 10 2013, 08:57PM
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The Avs win again tonight 4-1. To think Oilers Management once said they were on track with this rebuild just like them. Hahahahahhaha. Right!!!! How about for practice they don't waste time working on the "swarm system " and just watch the Avs game over and over, or pretty much anytime for that matter not named Buffalo, Florida or Philly.

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#17 Rheal1
November 11 2013, 05:49AM
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Some comments from TSN: "If the Oilers don;t have 10 wins by Christmas, the revolving head coach door must continue and the entire staff have to be given their walking papers. Eakins is standing 6 feet tall in 10 feet of water and it shows." "Betting against the Oilers can't even be considered gambling anymore" " Bonehead move by MacTavish to trade smid for a tiny forward and a goalie who won't be ready for a while. The oilers have the worst management in the league. It isn't even close." "Blackhawks proved you only have to show up for 20 minutes to beat the Oilers on any given night." "Honestly, just replace the Oilers with their AHL affiliate team, the OKC Barons. They properly would have a better chance at winning games. " "At least the Sabres have a promising future." "How's that trade working out for you, MacT? You needed D, so you got rid of your best one (plus a decent G prospect) for a low prospect F and a decent G prospect"

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#18 DSF
November 10 2013, 10:15PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

I should also mention I absolutely loved Lowe when he was a d man playing for the oil. Hard nosed nasty d man who was tough as nails. I wish he would quit so I can remember his fantastic legacy as a player. Not this Buffon running the oilers into the ground.

Ditto.

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#19 PutzStew
November 10 2013, 08:35PM
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could be worst.

well no it can't.

go have a good strong drink Lowetide. You are gonna need it.

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#20 oldhippy
November 10 2013, 09:41PM
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Really? A player is a "Bastard" because he isn't tall enough or big enough.

I'm done here. DSF and JJ can have the site to themselves.

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#21 DSF
November 10 2013, 09:42PM
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Hockey fan 1976 wrote:

They will not!! And is sad cause part of me actually wants the Flames to beat them bad next Saturday so that Katz can get his head out of his ass and fire everyone. Please let it be 4-0 at least for a final score. PLEASE!!!

The Oilers have more talent (for now) but the Flames work their butts every shift, every game.

Should be interesting.

If the Oilers lose (as expected) to Dallas and San Jose and then stink the joint out against the Flames, I think you'll finally see the Tier One fans go into full rage mode.

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#22 Chainsawz
November 10 2013, 10:18PM
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This season is a write off. No doubt.

But the Oilers don't need more prospects to clamour over more closely than the actual NHL club because they're more interesting.

How about try putting together a competitive club NOW, salvage what we can this season, and go into the '14-'15 season with some actual dignity.

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#23 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 11 2013, 10:06AM
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has anyone put a paper bag on the Gretzky statue yet?

Wayne doesnt need to see anymore of this.

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#24 freelancer
November 10 2013, 08:33PM
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Yawn. Wake me up in May where we can all pretend that we have a chance.

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#25 Harry
November 10 2013, 08:44PM
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Dubnyk. Game after game this guy disappoints his team mates. They have to be discusted by his performance.

Load him up in a cannon and fire gis sorry ass out of town asap.

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#26 Hockey fan 1976
November 10 2013, 08:45PM
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@YFC Prez

Made me cry too. Basically we are not only out of the playoffs this year, but we are also saying we'll probably be a joke again next year. This is so sad. Wtf is the obsession with these "wonder kids"? Isn't the goal of any hockey team to get into the playoffs and win eventually the god damn cup? Done cheering for this losers!!

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#27 YFC Prez
November 10 2013, 09:04PM
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@Cameron

Agreed. Katz needs to balls up and deal with his buddy Lowe the same way he does with all his other associates who have failed this bad. No way he built his rexall empire surrounded by the same ineptitude he surrounds himself with his hockey team.

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#28 Chet134
November 10 2013, 08:40PM
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Awesome. We ll be drafting McDavid then. When are we going to wake up and smell the coffee. This mix of players isn't good enough.

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#29 YFC Prez
November 10 2013, 08:40PM
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This blog made me cry

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#30 James
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@Hockey fan 1976

I'm watching it and it's sad to have a retrospective look at it. There was so much optimisim in the summer, as there always is, and once again, this team and everyone in the organization has let its fans down.

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#31 Quicksilver ballet
November 10 2013, 09:43PM
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@JJ

Good teams do NOT have a guy like Arcobello in their top centres. Good teams have that bastard on a one way ticket to AHL

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He's essentially been every bit as good as Gagner. Are you saying Gagner is an AHL'er.

With thinking like that, now we're getting somewhere. What can Gags do that Arcobello can't, for only 600.000 per yr? Either of the two are 3rd line centers at best on a competitive team.

What say you LT. Has Mark done enough so far to make Gagner expendable?

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#32 Quicksilver ballet
November 10 2013, 10:15PM
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Quintana wrote:

No you are not. You are just a lame Canuck cupless troll bastard with no life!!!!!! Be honest.....

Look at what you've written.

And ask yourself, who is really the troll. Look in the mirror, because you're it, tool.

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#33 Quicksilver ballet
November 10 2013, 10:22PM
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Chainsawz wrote:

This season is a write off. No doubt.

But the Oilers don't need more prospects to clamour over more closely than the actual NHL club because they're more interesting.

How about try putting together a competitive club NOW, salvage what we can this season, and go into the '14-'15 season with some actual dignity.

That's the beauty of this whole scenario.

Management actually think they're doing a bang up job.

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#34 DSF
November 10 2013, 10:35PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

That's the beauty of this whole scenario.

Management actually think they're doing a bang up job.

I've just heard MacT spouting off about how Grebeshkov and Eager are going to be difference makers this season.

Good grief.

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#35 JJ
November 10 2013, 08:34PM
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This is the exact kind of mentality that results in 30th place standings year after year.

You know what the problem is with you Oiler fans.. Instead of building a good team, you build and reward failure. Snowpants should be out the door, he's been here how long and he couldn't do anything, can't win a faceoff to save his life. Arcobello? You want this guy on next year's roster.. Good teams do NOT have a guy like Arcobello in their top centres. Good teams have that bastard on a one way ticket to AHL.

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#36 YFC Prez
November 10 2013, 10:04PM
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@DSF

It's getting to the point where many oilers fans are going to be in your corner. I've lost faith in this team getting any better with the same group in charge. But as you mentioned still after all this failure there Lowe is. Even after all the outcry for change the oilers brass responded by trading Smid for a salary relief and signing Brizgalov. How bad does it have to get before Lowe is gone? I don't get it !

Looks like another sell off coming. Lowe still is in charge. I don't see anything changing until Katz sets things right. The ball is in his court.

I've been trying to quit the oilers for years. But I can't even turn the channel when I know they have absolutely no chance. I just may envy you.

Looks like I'm going down with the ship

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#37 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 08:43AM
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"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

--- Albert Einstein

See the smartest man ever says "The braintrust" has to go. Who are we to argue with him?

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#38 DSF
November 10 2013, 09:18PM
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If your "cluster" includes Yakupov, Gagner, Schultz and Ference, you might as well throw in the towel right now.

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#39 Hockey fan 1976
November 10 2013, 09:34PM
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DSF wrote:

The Winnipeg Jets just beat the San Jose Sharks 5-4 in a shootout...outshooting the Sharks 46-34.

So, the only remaining question this season is "can the Oilers finish ahead of Calgary"?

Calgary is ahead by 4 points with 2 games in hand.

They will not!! And is sad cause part of me actually wants the Flames to beat them bad next Saturday so that Katz can get his head out of his ass and fire everyone. Please let it be 4-0 at least for a final score. PLEASE!!!

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#40 Wintoon
November 11 2013, 08:19AM
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Looking at the Oilers it is fairly obvious they need strength down the middle. I believe RNH will develop into a true #1C. I also believe that Boyd Gordon has the skill and commitment to be a #3C. Where the gaping hole exists is at #2C. Gagner has not got the size, the strength, the scoring ability, the playmaking ability and, most certainly not, the defensive skills necessary for a contending team. While young, he is a veteran on this team and he still can't cover anybody defensively, can't win a face off and comes across as a poser. It is easy to talk a good game and say the right things. It is much tougher and much more important to display these traits. Sam does not have what it takes.

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#41 Quicksilver ballet
November 11 2013, 08:20AM
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Hockey Problems wrote:

A heads up for all the posters on here hoping on drafting McDavid in June. Connor McDavid is NOTdraft eligible until 2015!!! That would require the Oil to finish in 30th place NEXT year (2014/15) too. Please quit talking about getting McDavid in the draft, wrong year. It makes you look foolish.

Try and keep up with the pace here Zulu.

Everyone knows he's still more than a year away. What you appear to be unaware of is the fact the Oilers will "always" be in the running for that first overall selection. Edmonton has a real shot at a first overall again this coming summer. It isn't at all a reach to assume they're going to be in that race next season as well.

Try and keep up to the pace here, fool.

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#43 Ari Gold
November 10 2013, 10:01PM
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Maybe we should blow up the team and begin a rebuild..

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#44 DSF
November 10 2013, 10:10PM
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It's getting to the point where many oilers fans are going to be in your corner. I've lost faith in this team getting any better with the same group in charge. But as you mentioned still after all this failure there Lowe is. Even after all the outcry for change the oilers brass responded by trading Smid for a salary relief and signing Brizgalov. How bad does it have to get before Lowe is gone? I don't get it !

Looks like another sell off coming. Lowe still is in charge. I don't see anything changing until Katz sets things right. The ball is in his court.

I've been trying to quit the oilers for years. But I can't even turn the channel when I know they have absolutely no chance. I just may envy you.

Looks like I'm going down with the ship

Interesting that just when you asked me that question, the latest edition of Oil Change came on Sportsnet Pacific.

What an absolute load of codswallop.

As for the Oilers, I watch pretty much every game although I have to admit I have another game or two running on Game Centre at the same time.

I don't see anything changing much until Katz gets the message that the organization needs a complete flush.

None of Lowe, MacT or Eakins has the expertise to build a winner IMO and this season, the way it is trending, may well be a watershed.

You can't pick in the top 10 that many years in a row, spend near the cap and still be one of the worst teams in the league without there being accountability...can you?

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#45 hemi
November 11 2013, 06:31AM
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With the "out of the closet disgust" by the vast majority of Oil fans, surely Katz must realize that the tide of support Oil fans, despite what tier one puts them on has plummeted to the lowest point in Oiler history? This run-away train is not even close to coming to a halt.

The real tell tale sign that the organization is without support or even "respect", is when the solid fan base turns on their own team. This is now happening. Katz knew full well that the fan base of this team was what all owners want.....a pure money making machine. The ticket sales have been awesome, merchandise has always been purchased since day one.

With his success as a business owner, it would be ridiculous to believe that he does not see the slide happening with the Mighty Oil. The Oil is a "Cash Cow" for Katz as it should be. The longer he sits back and permits the decline of this organization to the point of no return (lets hope we are not there yet) then the shame will be on him and him alone. Katz is a most private man but I am sure he has a pride trait built into him and due to such, he does not want his name associated to LOOSER for too long?

As Joe Six Pack fan, which the vast majority of hockey fans are, I am almost at the point of no return myself. Most businesses whom loose their bread and butter customers will at the very least, have profits erode in a downward spiral.

Rebuild has become the new four letter word!

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#46 Hockey fan 1976
November 10 2013, 09:09PM
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If anyone wants to watch a great comedy turn unto Sportsnet for the Oil Change episode. It's quite funny actually to watch the part when Eakins had his first media speech. "Compete" hahahahah

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#47 Ladislav Smid Fan
November 10 2013, 11:04PM
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Is Jones really worth a 4th when teams could have had him for free a month ago?

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#48 Quicksilver ballet
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outdoorzguy wrote:

While I'm at it, your attempt at humour on your radio show is a waste of time Al. You're not that funny!!

You're probably not old enough to even appreciate the humour. Put a few more miles (maturity) on that odometer of yours.

Yes we like our music loud.

...as long as it Johnny Cash or Frank Sinatra.

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#49 mlcselli
November 11 2013, 03:04AM
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Rookie Coach Jon Cooper took over the reins behind the bench in Tampa and is leading a successful team to one victory after another.

Rookie Coach Patrick Roy took over the reins behind the bench in Colorado and is leading a successful team to one victory after another.

My question is: Just how good is Dallas Eakins?

Looks like MacT bet on the wrong horse.

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#50 Rdubb
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Lowetide, I have a question for you? Why doesn't Eakins put Acrobello @ C & move Gagner over to the wing. Acrobello is much better in the dot, his .525 to Gagners .422 (or career ave of .446) is a huge difference. Gagner is no better, maybe even a bit worse @ D-zone coverage too. If everything is equal between the two, and Arcobello's fo% is that much better, that alone should call for a move, shouldn't it? Taylor Hall moved to C to do whatever the team needed of him for them to win, do you think Sam will (would) do the same? I continually hear how he "doesn't" want to move & I never hear him say, i'll do whatever the team needs. I also think that it would open up Sam's game too, thus allowing for him to be a bit more creative. Sam has been @ C now for several years, and he isn't showing any improvement what so ever, & Arcobello showed improvement from day 1 and continued, thus, I think has earned himself a shot @ the 2nd or 3rd line C, moving Sam to the 2nd line wing 1st line: Hall-RNH-Eberle 2nd line: Gagner-Arcobello-Hemsky 3rd line: Smyth-Gordon-Yakupov

What do you think???

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