A WEEKEND TO FORGET

Brian Sutherby
November 11 2013 03:30PM

After a weekend of sharing the same bed with Wanye in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, I have a lot of catching up to do. Please forgive me for being a couple days behind, I’m still haunted by the awkward leg touches as I’m sure many of you are haunted from the Oilers weekend.  I figure I’ll weigh in with my two cents even if I’m behind.

BROKEN RECORD

Not much on the ice has changed in "Oilerland" I see, just more of the same inconsistencies, and no results. I’m not going to dive back into each game and dissect them because it’s the same things that are costing them. To many turnovers, poor defensive zone play, and a lack of any physical element to their game. It’s tough to win in this league with those deficiencies.

TRADE

I struggled a bit with seeing Ladi Smid moved. In past years I’ve never gotten to watch many Oiler games but I remember playing Smid and he was always a nuisance if you were in and around the Oiler net. He was annoying during and after the play.

Nothing was different this year from that standpoint.  I saw him as the only guy that made it tough to be in front of the net or got in someone's face when a teammate needed. He wasn’t the toughest or scariest guy in the world but he was the only guy that I saw that was willing to do it every night on this blue line.  A willingness to compete and be uncomfortable for your teammates is a great thing in any dressing room.

This team needs a shakeup no doubt and I know with the Bryzgalov addition something had to give but when the main concern people have with this team is the makeup and the Oilers having too much soft small skill, why ship out the only guy on the back end that didn’t play a soft game?

WHY NOT

I have seen some who are concerned with the Ilya Byzgalov addition to this locker room and I can understand the concern. I just don’t see at this point how can it get any worse?

The team is a mile below .500 and whatever is happening in that dressing room at the moment would appear to be rock bottom.  It's not all Dubnyk's fault, he's played great at times and struggled during other stretches but if there is a cheap opportunity out there to potentially get better, I think at this point you take it.

UPSIDE

The hope is this guy has learned from his antics in Philly and can provide some depth at the position and maybe the Oil get a bargain moving forward. Thinking somehow this guy is going to come in and hurt a locker room that was 4-11-2 and has since chalked up 2 more losses, I don’t quite understand.

Many goalies are a little different to begin with, if he’s a problem in the room or hurting the focus of young players on the importance of winning then it’s a one year deal and you move on. He can still be sent to the minors or sent home if things get stupid this year as well.

They aren’t winning as is, so I don’t mind the gamble at all. I just wish they didn’t move Smid to do it.

GAGNER

He’s slowly starting to catch some heat here for the start to the season he’s had. Coming off his injury, it obviously hasn’t been the start to his already shortened season that he envisioned but what did you really expect? Struds did a piece on him at the start of the year and how behind the eight ball he would be coming back from this injury and the awful timing of it to boot.

TO PLAY OR NOT TO PLAY

This is such a tough decision for players. The majority of athletes will do whatever it takes to be with their team even if they are not 100% healthy. This leaves players very vulnerable to scrutiny if they are not performing. Lost in it all is the fact he's hungry to play and willing to sacrifice his body for his teammates.

The players know what he is enduring and I’m sure they love him for it. I've played with several guys that had to be 100% healthy for 2 weeks before suiting up. This didn’t always sit well inside the walls of a dressing room because rarely is anyone that healthy during the season.

It’s easy to pile on guys right now when things are going bad and things haven’t been good for Ganger so far, but let’s give the guy some credit.  How easy would it have been for him to sit back and say “boy things are going rough around here, I'm just going to let the boys handle this rough patch and I'll sit up here in this cozy press box for a couple more weeks, till things settle down.” Some guys would do that.

This is a guy that's still clearly hurting, you can see it on the bench when he takes any kind of hit and instead of taking the easy route he chose to dive head first into this fire with his teammates.

He’s another small skilled guy and who knows what the future may hold for him and others on this squad the way things are going but I applaud him for his gutsiness even if things haven’t started that great. I wouldn’t have expected much else from a guy with a shattered jaw, injuries take time.

BATTLE OF THE BLADES

If you missed it, please don’t forget to vote for our friend Struds who was in the final last night on CBC. If he wins, a nice chunk of change will be donated to a local charity here in Edmonton, The Inner City Children’s Program.

With as much losing that is going on around here, let’s all step up to get a big win for Struds and a great local charity.  It's not too late, please vote here.

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A Moose Jaw Warriors alumnus and veteran of 460 NHL games with the Capitals, Ducks and Stars—Sutherby is here to regale us with tales of the WJHC, life as an NHL player and much more from a Pro’s perspective. Co-Host's the Jason Gregor show on TSN1260 on Tuesday's from 3-5 and Coaches at www.proconnectionhockey.com Twitter:@briansutherby
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#51 Rama Lama
November 11 2013, 04:55PM
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Eakins has been given ideas by many ( insiders and outsiders) on how to use his players. He said right from the beginning he was not going to shelter players?

Fair enough, but why would you not utilize players is roles and positions that highlights their game positively? In stead he puts players seemingly willy nilly where ever he wants.

I'm starting to think he is purposely exposing the weaknesses of his team.......to which end I cannot begin to understand. It's become painfully obvious he does not subscribe to the notion of having role players,.............. in his world every should be able to work the PP, and PK, and fight, all at the same time if necessary.

I think we all can agree the last player that needed to be changed is Ladi........but here is where we sit. Can things get any stranger in Oilerland?

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#52 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 05:08PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

Eakins has been given ideas by many ( insiders and outsiders) on how to use his players. He said right from the beginning he was not going to shelter players?

Fair enough, but why would you not utilize players is roles and positions that highlights their game positively? In stead he puts players seemingly willy nilly where ever he wants.

I'm starting to think he is purposely exposing the weaknesses of his team.......to which end I cannot begin to understand. It's become painfully obvious he does not subscribe to the notion of having role players,.............. in his world every should be able to work the PP, and PK, and fight, all at the same time if necessary.

I think we all can agree the last player that needed to be changed is Ladi........but here is where we sit. Can things get any stranger in Oilerland?

I don't really go in for the ....they're dumping the season on purpose conspiracies....but if I were to indulge in that kind of thinking....it might be smart on the part of the coach to shine a light on all the weaknesses he sees/perceives, very early into his tenure, knowing that he is in the honeymoon period of his contract. It would be one way to covertly force the hand of upper management to make changes that up to now they have been unwilling/ unable to make. Eakins may be rolling the dice in an attempt to increase his chances long term. Maybe he sees it as a team full of smurfs...but can't say that to management....otherwise they'd question why he took the job in the first place.

Give me a minute....I'm going to run this by Mel Gibson.....

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#53 Ed in Edmonton
November 11 2013, 05:47PM
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Southerby, you have quickly become the most insightful poster on this sight.

The Smid move is puzzling. It can only be interpreted as MacT giving up on this season.

About 2 years ago Gagner had a training camp injury and missed the 1st month or so. When he returned he was brutal for his first month or so. His struggles are not so surprising. However, if he can't so better than he has so far, perhaps they need to sit him until he is fully healthy.

Best case for the Oil is that Gagner starts scoring at his normal pace by the end of the year and trade him for whatever they can get before July 1. They will probably need to take back someone else's bad contract though.

As Yogi Berra once said "a verbal agreement isn't worth the paper it is written on"

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#54 Jay
November 11 2013, 05:50PM
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You guys care too much about this team. They suck! They suck now, they sucked for 8 years and they'll suck for another 4or 5 atleast. The problems with this team arnt new. It's been the same crap for years and nothings changed, not even the assistant coaches! It's an absolute joke

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#55 DSF
November 11 2013, 06:17PM
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mlcselli wrote:

If this is true, then Yak is the next trade

It is true.

Custance is very credible.

I would think either Yak or Hemsky (if MacT listens to Larionov) will have to go.

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#56 Eulers
November 11 2013, 06:21PM
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It's spelled 'Ganye', not 'Ganger'!!

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#57 DSF
November 11 2013, 06:40PM
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mlcselli wrote:

DSF, I'm being serious when I ask you this--what do you predict as far as the team he's traded to and the return? I think that MacT is going to play hardball and we will get one helluva defence man.

MacT is the one who will be dealing from a position of weakness. His cards are already on the table.

There will be very few teams interested in acquiring a player who's agent is involved like this.

Reminds me of the Cody Hodgson situation in Vancouver.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if all the talk with Philly over the last week involved Yakupov but MacT (Lowe in reality) couldn't get what he wanted out of Holmgren.

Montreal might bite but no way they'll move a top pairing D for Yakupov.

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#58 Serious Gord
November 11 2013, 06:57PM
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mlcselli wrote:

DSF, I'm being serious when I ask you this--what do you predict as far as the team he's traded to and the return? I think that MacT is going to play hardball and we will get one helluva defence man.

Dream on. MacT is now dealing from a position of great weakness.

And there are very few players MacT can deal with due to the oils cap limitations.

Very likely he gets a second line over the hill D who has a low cap hit plus a low first round early second pick.

Disaster in other words...

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#59 Shooter
November 11 2013, 07:43PM
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I'd trade Yak in a heartbeat but only for the right deal. Nobody in this league and especially this team is untouchable... for the right deal. Please get some big tough player or players in return.

The Smid deal was not the right deal. We traded a warrior for another soft forward and a goalie prospect. If the goalie turns out to be a starter in the future then maybe it was worth it in the long run, but this team needs help now.

Any word on the Kevin Lowe firing? I hear there's a senior hockey team in Bentley, AB looking for a new prez. Funny thing is they probably wouldn't take Lowe. LOL.

Mr. Lowe, is your fat paycheck really worth all the ill will from the fans? You were a great player but you are tarnishing your image as the days go by. Be a man. Admit your mistakes and step down. This is a complete train wreck and you've been driving the train for 13 years sir. Don't make your buddy Katz fire you. That's an awefull thing to make a buddy do. Do the right thing and go away.

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#60 Spydyr
November 12 2013, 04:20AM
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Dockstaff wrote:

I was literally writing the same thing in Lowetide's posting.

Twice against Chicago he stood between the slot and the dot, no where near a Blackhawk jersey. One one the pass came from the boards to the slot and in the net. Yes the Dman was no where to be seen, but that is the job of the centre, to support your D and take their position when they are out.

Gagner just doesn't get this! Move to the wing.

I'm all for moving him to the wing.On another team.

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#61 Fresh Mess
November 11 2013, 04:02PM
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If he is not ready to play at the NHL level then the coach should see that and scratch him. He has been a liability so far.

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#62 vetinari
November 11 2013, 04:28PM
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I have a feeling that any trades in the near future will either have to be an overpay on our end (like the Smid trade) or will be for reclamation projects from someone else's "used" bin.

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#63 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 04:33PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

If you are right than what does it say about a manager willing to lose a trade. What does that say the organization thinks. If.....If you are correct that means the rebuild is still going on for many more years......I so hope you are wrong.

Just to be clear, I didn't say they were willing to loose a trade, I think they were willing to be perceived as losing the trade. That is, that they knew fans and others taking it at face value, would consider it a loss....but that they themselves, we're working from a rational, perhaps including the five things listed above, that made the deal acceptable/palatable for them given their circumstances, and what they felt they knew about the quality/ value of the players involved.

Really I'm just trying to make sense of it.....to conjecture what they might have been thinking.

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#64 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 04:57PM
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Brian Sutherby wrote:

I hope it was only 3 you listed. I'm sure many played a part actually but I hope it wasn't 1,2, 4 or 5 because I wouldn't have chosen that player for rash moves.

Eakins wasn't playing him as much as Smid had in the past. Perhaps there was something there Eakins didn't like? I don't understand that either however.

I don't believe from the things I've heard or seen about Smid it had anything to do with his character in the dressing room. Quite the opposite actually. He appeared to be a great teammate and dressing room guy.

If we follow your logic...and I tend to agree with you.....then the one thing that we can perhaps conclude is that there was no interest by any team in the league for any Oiler player/contracts that were less value than Smid. Therefore it had to be him by default........no one wanted Hemsky or Jones or Nick Schultz, or Joensuu, or Ryan Smyth etc

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#65 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 05:13PM
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@Wanye

I know I'll get sensored......but the only part of your story that lines up with Sutherby's version is the 10 deep part.......butt it has a hole different meaning.....

No pun intended....I just can't spell......

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#66 Smokey
November 11 2013, 06:08PM
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DSF wrote:

Gagner has never scored 50 points in 7 NHL seasons....not once.

I rest my case.

I don't blame Gagner for sucking right now. He should of sat 4-5 more games, but the team needed a boost. We are seeing what a player who comes off a such an injury that effects your eating and conditioning looks like. He looks worse this year then at any point I can remember. They have force fed him minutes and he has struggled. The penalty shot showed that he's not feeling it.

But I do blame Eakins for his usage. Arco should never been moved outta the 2C position. Arco struggled, Gagner was not ready to find his grove, and force feeding minutes to Sam has compounded the Oilers trouble. Why the heck did play so much against Stamkos or was allowed to take so many draws in Philly?

Frankly the argument Sam has never had a 50 point season is to me like saying Taylor Hall's not a top 15 player and point producer cause last season was short. Sam produced well last year, except the final 10 games when Yak was the only player going.

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#67 DSF
November 11 2013, 06:20PM
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Smokey wrote:

I don't blame Gagner for sucking right now. He should of sat 4-5 more games, but the team needed a boost. We are seeing what a player who comes off a such an injury that effects your eating and conditioning looks like. He looks worse this year then at any point I can remember. They have force fed him minutes and he has struggled. The penalty shot showed that he's not feeling it.

But I do blame Eakins for his usage. Arco should never been moved outta the 2C position. Arco struggled, Gagner was not ready to find his grove, and force feeding minutes to Sam has compounded the Oilers trouble. Why the heck did play so much against Stamkos or was allowed to take so many draws in Philly?

Frankly the argument Sam has never had a 50 point season is to me like saying Taylor Hall's not a top 15 player and point producer cause last season was short. Sam produced well last year, except the final 10 games when Yak was the only player going.

1) I agree it's a tough situation for Gagner and he should likely still be in the press box.

2) Agree completely.

3) A shortened season can cause all sorts of distortions. It's worth noting that Gagner has only 2 points (both second assists) in the final 10 games last season. Given that he is known to go through very long non-productive stretches in his career, it's just as likely his production would have stagnated for a much longer period of time.

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#68 DSF
November 11 2013, 06:54PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Maybe Katz should have listened to McGregor and stayed out of the way when the management wanted to draft Murray, it was his decision to draft Yakapov and that is a fact. The Oiler's have a new title to Stauffers daily radio show after the teams start and recent moves, It is now called "Oiler's WTF Now".

That's hilarious.

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#69 Kirk brackenberry
November 11 2013, 06:57PM
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This does truly make you sat WTF. This rutterless ship is going to truly crash for good. Is there anyone within this organization that can save this mess...don't think so....it's up to the owner to flush these bums but we know that ain't going to happen. What a sad state it has become.

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#70 DAVE
November 11 2013, 07:55PM
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MAC T SIGNED FERENCE, just so he could trade Smid. what a geniuos.

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#71 Dockstaff
November 11 2013, 08:11PM
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@ubermiguel

I was literally writing the same thing in Lowetide's posting.

Twice against Chicago he stood between the slot and the dot, no where near a Blackhawk jersey. One one the pass came from the boards to the slot and in the net. Yes the Dman was no where to be seen, but that is the job of the centre, to support your D and take their position when they are out.

Gagner just doesn't get this! Move to the wing.

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#72 Stack Pad Save
November 11 2013, 04:32PM
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vetinari wrote:

I have a feeling that any trades in the near future will either have to be an overpay on our end (like the Smid trade) or will be for reclamation projects from someone else's "used" bin.

IMHO it is okay to overpay to get what you need. As long as you get what you need.

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#73 mlcselli
November 11 2013, 06:29PM
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DSF wrote:

Okay....now this is getting serious....

Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance 1m

If EDM unhappy with him, Larionov said Yak open to trade: “We’re willing to make a move. Any team. That happens and that’s part of life.”

DSF, I'm being serious when I ask you this--what do you predict as far as the team he's traded to and the return? I think that MacT is going to play hardball and we will get one helluva defence man.

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#74 Fresh Mess
November 11 2013, 07:17PM
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No surprise on the Weird Al Yakupov front. Some of us knew that Fail was a ticking dressing room time bomb. This organization is toxic.

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#75 Kirk Brackenberry
November 11 2013, 07:27PM
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@James

I think Hall is untouchable, and Eberle is also do to the all to common oilers overpay aka the Horcoff

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#76 James
November 11 2013, 07:44PM
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@DCC

Care to elaborate?

Wasn't Yak pretty close with Gagner last season? Is that still the case? I know they tweeted each other a bit last season, but I didn't notice it with other players.

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#77 Soccer Steve
November 11 2013, 07:45PM
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Interesting comments tonight.

First off, "Hall is untouchable." See: Gretzky, Wayne. NO ONE is untouchable.

Smid was traded because he's not really that good and his contract was about to change into an anchor. I firmly believe history will see us the winner there.

Yak leaving WOULD be a shame IF it happened. "WOULD". "IF". Some act like it's done and dusted. Who saw Smid being dealt?...Exactly.

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#78 Jay Gray
November 11 2013, 04:23PM
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My hope is that Bryz plays lights out, good enough to move him out at the deadline for a 1st (best case scenario). Let Dubnyk walk at the end of the season and make it priority #1 to obtain a premier goaltender in the offseason whether it be by trade or free agent signing.

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#79 Stack Pad Save
November 11 2013, 04:25PM
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@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

If you are right than what does it say about a manager willing to lose a trade. What does that say the organization thinks. If.....If you are correct that means the rebuild is still going on for many more years......I so hope you are wrong.

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#80 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 05:33PM
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DSF wrote:

1) MacT gave him a verbal promise that he would not trade him before his NTC kicks in.

2) Gagner is NOT a "50-60 point guy". He had never broken 50 points in his 7 seasons and he's sure not going to do it this season.

3) The Oilers leading scorer at the moment is Jordan Eberle who is only on pace for 64 points despite playing 1st line minutes and 1st unit PP. Gagner gets the 5th most minutes at evens and is 9th in PPTOI/G.

Not a chance he would score 50+ even if he had been healthy from the start of the season.

"Not a chance he would score 50+ even if he had been healthy from the start of the season."

I bet you he is on for more then 50 against though.It seems he is on for at least two against a game.Him being on for goals against and Dubnyk letting in at least one weak goal a game are two constants this year.

Looked it up he has played 6 games and been on for 10 goals against.Ouch.he is a career -57.Funny thing is most people who like Gagner like Dubnyk also.Personally both can go.Three seasons ago.

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#81 Todd
November 11 2013, 05:45PM
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@Todd

Did you hear about this 'verbal agreement' from your moms basement?

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#82 DSF
November 11 2013, 06:23PM
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Okay....now this is getting serious....

Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance 1m

If EDM unhappy with him, Larionov said Yak open to trade: “We’re willing to make a move. Any team. That happens and that’s part of life.”

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#83 Serious Gord
November 11 2013, 06:50PM
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Todd wrote:

He scored 0.8ppg in the lockout. 100% of the games played. Thats works out to 65pts. Or does Chicago only get 60% of the Stanley Cup for last year?

Nice try. You are funny, I do admit that.

We get it. Oilers suck. You hate them. You like to rub it in. You have no life and spend your days on an Oilers fan site to bash them. (seriously who does that?? - I couldn't imagine spending even 1 minute on another teams blog.. sad really). You hate Lowe and everything about the Oilers organization. We hate you. I rest my case.

So has he ever scored fifty in one season?

Extrapolation is for the birds in this regard: injuries are often a symptom of how a player plays the game or how injury prone he is.

By your metric Bobby Orr would be the record holder for most assists over a career.

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#84 DSF
November 11 2013, 06:51PM
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Kirk brackenberry wrote:

Why is this trouble? Given this teams ineptitude in making necessary trades I think a forced one is something to celebrate. We can't keep all the kids and well I personally would rather see Ganja or Eberle go, Yak is fine....just don't F this up and get an actual NHL top DMan for this kid.

Maybe they can trade him to Calgary for Ladislav Smid. 😳

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#85 madjam
November 11 2013, 07:57PM
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Yak going back - home that is , to develop his game there ? Trade seems out of the question .

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#86 Kevin
November 11 2013, 08:25PM
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Kirk Brackenberry wrote:

I think Hall is untouchable, and Eberle is also do to the all to common oilers overpay aka the Horcoff

Hall is a player for sure. That said the oil have deep deep issues and numerous holes to fill. When watching Hall play there is little to no structure to his game. Build from D-core out, plus strength down the middle. Hall and Petry to Boston for Dougie Hamilton, Johnny Boychuck and Patrice Bergeron. Eberle and Arcobello and a 2nd to Phili for Braydon Colburn and Sean Couturier. If Yak is truely not a fit in the dressing room, my next move is Yakupov to Colorado for Jamie McGinn and Jan Hejda ( should have never let him go in the 1st place)

The current Oil as still way to soft- they are way to easy on opposing D on the dump and chase. Opposing D basically have a free night off when playing this team. Time to get some grit. The reality, in order to get something one needs to give something up.

Time for some BOLD moves Folks !!

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#87 Stack Pad Save
November 11 2013, 09:49PM
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@jr_christ

I don't know if you have any evidence to back up the whiney, the only whiney I see is your post crying about someone else crying. Now you made me cry about your cries....wtf end the cycle. Please, find me a hockey player who isn't whining on the ice. They all do, emotions are high.

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#88 Stack Pad Save
November 11 2013, 04:37PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Just to be clear, I didn't say they were willing to loose a trade, I think they were willing to be perceived as losing the trade. That is, that they knew fans and others taking it at face value, would consider it a loss....but that they themselves, we're working from a rational, perhaps including the five things listed above, that made the deal acceptable/palatable for them given their circumstances, and what they felt they knew about the quality/ value of the players involved.

Really I'm just trying to make sense of it.....to conjecture what they might have been thinking.

That is the problem. Why would you ever want to make that trade? It was a loss, they did not need cap cap space, they had enough room for Bryz. The whole problem with that trade is actually What you said and I agrees with your points. But if that is what Oilers management were thinking it makes them incompetent.

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#89 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 04:47PM
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Brian Sutherby wrote:

I don't really have one. I'm confused by the message. Perhaps there is something behind the scenes that I'm unaware of. He wasn't flashy, he wasn't perfect but I feel like they just traded away something they already lacked(grit). I hope there is a replacement coming sooner than later. They just got even easier to play against.

So does it lead you to believe that MacT is incompetent, or do you think it's more likely that he did the deal for reasons that are not yet obvious?

Oops, sorry ....I was posting this just as you were posting your answer. Please disregard this one. Thanks

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#90 Stack Pad Save
November 11 2013, 04:52PM
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@Brian Sutherby

What would be a players reaction in the dressing room to a trade like this? Would they be grumbling, ignoring it???

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#91 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 05:17PM
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Have I been kicked off the site yet?

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#92 DSF
November 11 2013, 06:24PM
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Eulers wrote:

It's spelled 'Ganye', not 'Ganger'!!

Nope.

"Ganja"

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#93 Dockstaff
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Yak or Hemsky to Ottawa for Clarke MacArthur and a pick. He's got 12 points, is +13, can play top 6 minutes, tough in the corners and can drop the mitts. He's a tough SK boy. Grapes heralded him when he was in TO as being one of three players to turn that team around.

Ottawa hasn't found the answer to Alfreddson's departure, one of these two could easily fill that void.

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