THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES

Lowetide
November 11 2013 09:41AM

The Edmonton Oilers are in a bad spot now, and with a 4-13-2 record to start the season you would be reading some 'fire the coach' articles by now if this were any other franchise. The thing is, they've done that already, seemingly every summer since 2009. I guess they could fire a coach in-season, but I don't think that is going to happen. The alternative? A wild and crazy ride.

Do you remember the famous line uttered by every GM who ever fired a coach? It goes "well, you can't fire all 23 players" and is followed by knowing nods from all gathered for the media conference. I think we're about the see the reverse, kind of a "well, you can't fire 23 coaches" plan.

It started with Ladislav Smid. Dallas Eakins didn't give him a lot of time on the Smid-Petry tandem and honestly Smid's skill set doesn't really fit the Eakins template (get puck, move puck, rinse, repeat) for puck handling. The Oilers sent away Smid partly for cap savings into the next seasons, and that may be the case with more players as the MacT-Eakins tandem makes more final decisions on who can and cannot handle the Eakins way.

Sam Gagner may be in some peril as a center in this system. It's early, and he's coming back from injury, but he's been exposed on this road trip by eye and by math--he's not in good positions, doesn't win enough battles and when he's not helping offensively 89 doesn't do enough without the puck to warrant top line minutes.

Dallas Eakins is the first coach in forever Edmonton has employed to deliver results without worrying too much about talent development. Eakins has to nurse Yakupov a little, but other than that it's a results oriented business and those who can't or won't will be shot out of a cannon to their new home.

Bottom line: Dallas Eakins has a right to ask each player on the ice to be defensively responsible. We've been talking about systems but these aren't new ideas brought from Mars, these are defensive tactics that require a player to adjust to the situation and mark his man. The results so far show some players have been able to adjust and flourish despite some stumbles, and others appear lost. Gagner has played far fewer games than the others, so there may be a sense that he can recover over time--however, at some point he's going to pay for indifference or inability with lost playing time, a change in position, or a ticket out of town.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

It began with Belov replacing Smid on the top 4, and resulted in Smid being sent away. Next step: Mark Arcobello at center, Gagner to the wing. The Edmonton Oilers have lost the season already and that is a horrible reality. The next logical step is to refine the roster to better reflect Dallas Eakins, culling those who don't fit and adding those who are a better match.

Stay close to your internet, this is going to get choppy.

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#101 Serious Gord
November 11 2013, 01:20PM
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Randaman wrote:

I am hopeful that a couple more moves (please) by MacT will improve the mix. I just don't see the need to continue the revolving door for coaches because we think the players aren't at fault here. Eberle has been invisible in the defensive zone along with Hemsky, Yak and many others. Eakins doesn't play the game. The players carry the ultimate responsibility for our situation. The effort level on most nights tells us this.

Didn't answer my question. Here it is again:

so if we are at 8-28-5 at the halfway point will you still have the same opinion?

How about a similar record at the trade deadline?

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#102 OilFanInVan
November 11 2013, 01:20PM
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Maybe Smid was Craig McTavish's Jason Giambi*. We don't know what might have happened in the dressing room. We do know Smid has said some things recently to reporters...

* Watch Moneyball if you don't get the reference

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#103 D
November 11 2013, 01:26PM
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DSF wrote:

Then what?

If the Oilers continue to stink for the rest of the season, what do you do next?

@DSF - you raise a valid point here. But the organization is in a bind. Major trades at this point would probably result in the Oilers giving away the farm, especially with the current management in place. There's a certain amount of inertia in place right now that would be difficult to overcome compared to the summer months when there is an expectation that all teams will modify their roster.

Bringing in a new coach right now? Well then it's back to square one relearning systems.

The "smartest men in the NHL" (TM SixRings, Inc.) got served a serious dose of humble pie. For me, that's almost entertaining enough.

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#104 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 01:30PM
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D wrote:

@DSF - you raise a valid point here. But the organization is in a bind. Major trades at this point would probably result in the Oilers giving away the farm, especially with the current management in place. There's a certain amount of inertia in place right now that would be difficult to overcome compared to the summer months when there is an expectation that all teams will modify their roster.

Bringing in a new coach right now? Well then it's back to square one relearning systems.

The "smartest men in the NHL" (TM SixRings, Inc.) got served a serious dose of humble pie. For me, that's almost entertaining enough.

Personally I would rather be entertained by good competitive hockey. Then a run at the Cup.

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#105 D
November 11 2013, 01:33PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Personally I would rather be entertained by good competitive hockey. Then a run at the Cup.

I definitely agree with you on that one. But I think we're out of luck with this season. So a little schadenfreude is all that's really left for me.

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#106 madjam
November 11 2013, 01:35PM
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This is the first season of the rebuild , what did you expect form new group ? Last rebuild was cancelled last year . Even if we finish 29th , that's still better than the 30th we were in last rebuild . Isn't progress fun ?

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#107 michael
November 11 2013, 01:38PM
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Stamko's definitely fubared his leg. Broke? If it is there is a monster opportunity for MacT. Team Canada will be weaker with his loss. Opportunity knocks for Eberle.

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#108 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 01:40PM
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D wrote:

I definitely agree with you on that one. But I think we're out of luck with this season. So a little schadenfreude is all that's really left for me.

Yeah , I really don't get off on the suffering of others, Especially when they suffer so suffers my beloved Oilers.

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#109 Smokey
November 11 2013, 01:42PM
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TheLines wrote:

Oilers lines if I was coach 1.Hall-RNH-Yakupov 2.Perron-Gagner-Eberle 3.Joensuu-Gordon-Hemsky 4.Smyth-Arcobello-Jones D 1. N.Schultz-Petry D 2. Belov-J.Schultz D 3. Ference-Klefbom That's right KLEFBOM, bring in some more size get rid of these midget defenders.

I think he is on his way in 4-5 games...they can't play with most of their defence 200 pounds and under. Petry and Schultz Sr. are huge at 200, yikes...good luck with that.

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#110 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 01:42PM
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michael wrote:

Stamko's definitely fubared his leg. Broke? If it is there is a monster opportunity for MacT. Team Canada will be weaker with his loss. Opportunity knocks for Eberle.

Do they need a water boy because he has done absolutely nothing this year. He does not even belong in the conversation.

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#111 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 01:46PM
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oildrops wrote:

it came three games too late. That's to bad for team Canada though

You should go back and edit the first sentence out.

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#112 Smokey
November 11 2013, 01:47PM
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Sizzay wrote:

Said all last year trade gagner. Sell high. I feel for the guy with the broken jaw but he is being outplayed by arcobello, another guy I'd sell high on.

Move Arco and a pick for Andersen in Anaheim (similar to the bishop trade)

I'm interested in Colin Wilson personally. 6'1 215lbs who has been groomed under trotz. I believe he was drafted as a centre but could be ready to actually play centre now. He would be an interesting replacement t for gagner. I also like the idea of inquiring on Matthias or goc in Florida

Maybe hemsky and gagner for Colin Wilson and Craig smith.

I'm fine with him as long as Trotz comes part of the package.

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#113 DSF
November 11 2013, 01:50PM
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michael wrote:

Stamko's definitely fubared his leg. Broke? If it is there is a monster opportunity for MacT. Team Canada will be weaker with his loss. Opportunity knocks for Eberle.

No it doesn't.

It knocks for Matt Duchene.

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#114 DSF
November 11 2013, 01:51PM
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madjam wrote:

This is the first season of the rebuild , what did you expect form new group ? Last rebuild was cancelled last year . Even if we finish 29th , that's still better than the 30th we were in last rebuild . Isn't progress fun ?

When do we get to cancel this rebuild? 💥

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#115 DSF
November 11 2013, 01:52PM
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OilFanInVan wrote:

Maybe Smid was Craig McTavish's Jason Giambi*. We don't know what might have happened in the dressing room. We do know Smid has said some things recently to reporters...

* Watch Moneyball if you don't get the reference

I expect there is something to this.

The Smid trade just doesn't smell right.

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#116 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 01:57PM
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DSF wrote:

When do we get to cancel this rebuild? 💥

Detroit "Reloads"..........Chicago "Rebuilds"......the Oilers "Reset".............Each year they just keep hitting the Reset button waiting for the screen to Reset itself......you're right....they should try Cancel.....or better yet....Ctrl Alt Delete.

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#117 Smokey
November 11 2013, 01:57PM
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DSF wrote:

Pat Quinn might be available. :)

😀

I miss the old guys quotes and press conferences. He made loosing at least kinda entertaining. Him and Bryz would be pure gold all year in the media scrums. Always laughed at those in the media who painted Quinn as being outta touch. The only thing he never won was a Cup, he accomplished everything else. Even in those dark days of his tenure I felt that he never lost the room like Eakins, he just had no talent, an AHL goalie, and his only star was broken. Listening to Eakins, I wanna take to the bottle...no wonder he lost the team.

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#118 DSF
November 11 2013, 02:00PM
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Gaz wrote:

Oh please. I'm not sold on Eakins but lets not get too carried away here.

A lot of things are plausible. You know what else is? That Vancouver interviewed him and tried to hire him, but he chose Edmonton because they did a better sell job (and anyone who handles the Luongo/Schneider fiasco as poorly as Gillis did isn't much more credible than the current Oilers braintrust).

Who is the former NHL player?

I followed the Vancouver coaching situation very closely and Gillis did NOT offer Eakins a job

He was interviewed the day after the Eakins interview and said he still had a few candidates to look at.

Seems like the Luongo/Schneider fiasco turned out just fine too.

Schneider - .915

Luongo - .911

Dubnyk - .876.

Oops.

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#119 DSF
November 11 2013, 02:02PM
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Smokey wrote:

I miss the old guys quotes and press conferences. He made loosing at least kinda entertaining. Him and Bryz would be pure gold all year in the media scrums. Always laughed at those in the media who painted Quinn as being outta touch. The only thing he never won was a Cup, he accomplished everything else. Even in those dark days of his tenure I felt that he never lost the room like Eakins, he just had no talent, an AHL goalie, and his only star was broken. Listening to Eakins, I wanna take to the bottle...no wonder he lost the team.

I expect if Pat Quinn had Kevin Lowe's job right now the Oilers would be a much better team.

The man (Quinn, to be clear) is far from stupid.

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#120 Smokey
November 11 2013, 02:03PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Do they need a water boy because he has done absolutely nothing this year. He does not even belong in the conversation.

I know fully Perron is not in the conversation as for Team Canada, nor am I saying he should be.

If you had to take a player from the Oilers to be on Team Canada, he is the guy. The guy is our best forward this year. 12 points in 15 games, correct me if I am wrong. Only guy in the grill of the opposition. Defensively good, battles and competes. Its like he still has Hitchcock yelling at him.

It seems Eberle is floating more often then not it seems.

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#121 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 02:04PM
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@DSF

Well there would be less Barbra Ann Scott's on the team. That is for sure.

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#122 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 02:05PM
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Smokey wrote:

I know fully Perron is not in the conversation as for Team Canada, nor am I saying he should be.

If you had to take a player from the Oilers to be on Team Canada, he is the guy. The guy is our best forward this year. 12 points in 15 games, correct me if I am wrong. Only guy in the grill of the opposition. Defensively good, battles and competes. Its like he still has Hitchcock yelling at him.

It seems Eberle is floating more often then not it seems.

Why would you take a player from the second last team in the NHL unless he was having a phenomenal year?

Too bad Hitchcock isn't yelling at the Oilers kids.

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#123 Dangilitis
November 11 2013, 02:09PM
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OilFanInVan wrote:

Maybe Smid was Craig McTavish's Jason Giambi*. We don't know what might have happened in the dressing room. We do know Smid has said some things recently to reporters...

* Watch Moneyball if you don't get the reference

I think you are referring to Jeremy Giambi, Jason's less talented little brother, who was arrested for drug charges in Las Vegas the season before the Moneyball movie is set. I suppose we don't know what goes on in the dressing room, but if you are referring to the scene in the movie when Jeremy was dancing after a loss to entertain his teammates, and then was traded thereafter, I can bet that Smid was NOT that kind of player. The snippets we have seen of him from the media show that he was, in fact, the opposite. Jeremy didn't care how his team was performing, while Smid would curse and be downright pissed off, which, IMO, is exactly the way a team mate who cares should react to a beatdown and a record as shotty as the Oilers.

Jason Giambi, at the time (without the subsequently discovered steroid use), was actually a highly coveted 1st baseman who Oakland could no longer afford to pay, but had led the league in on base percentage in 2001, and Moneyball actually focuses on filling the void that Giambi's departure had created for the team. So if you intended to mean that Smid was like Jason Giambi, then I agree, losing him created a void on the team's roster that they have yet to fill adequately unless Klefbom is ready for that role, today...

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#124 DSF
November 11 2013, 02:10PM
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Aaron Ward ✔ @aaronward_nhl

Source, Steven Stamkos has broken tibia. Told will require surgery. #TSN

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#125 Smokey
November 11 2013, 02:11PM
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DSF wrote:

I expect if Pat Quinn had Kevin Lowe's job right now the Oilers would be a much better team.

The man (Quinn, to be clear) is far from stupid.

Sorry if inferred that he was dumn, much to the contrary. I think he was portrayed as being a dinosaur, old school. Pat Quinn was screwed over, he was by far the best coach we had during these dark days. I felt bad that he was not given the reigns for another year. The quotes alone were gold though.

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#126 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 02:12PM
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DSF wrote:

I expect there is something to this.

The Smid trade just doesn't smell right.

I think it's five things

1) They felt they needed to do something quickly to right the ship and they had limited options

That combined with

2) They needed short term cap relief to bring in Bryz....

3) They need mid term cap relief to make significant change(s) at the trade deadline

4) Smid was not part of the long term plans and they actually like Horak and Brossoit ( they believe it adds organizational depth even if they are perceived as losing the trade)

5) MacT felt he needed to back up his rhetoric about being impatient and not accepting a culture of loosing

* I'm not saying that any of the 5 things couldn't have been dealt with differently....just offering up what I think was the explanation

...in other words, the smell you're referring to may have been the smell of desperation.

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#127 Ralph
November 11 2013, 02:13PM
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Results don't lie after 7 + years. Everything about this organization is overrated .

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#128 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 02:13PM
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Dangilitis wrote:

I think you are referring to Jeremy Giambi, Jason's less talented little brother, who was arrested for drug charges in Las Vegas the season before the Moneyball movie is set. I suppose we don't know what goes on in the dressing room, but if you are referring to the scene in the movie when Jeremy was dancing after a loss to entertain his teammates, and then was traded thereafter, I can bet that Smid was NOT that kind of player. The snippets we have seen of him from the media show that he was, in fact, the opposite. Jeremy didn't care how his team was performing, while Smid would curse and be downright pissed off, which, IMO, is exactly the way a team mate who cares should react to a beatdown and a record as shotty as the Oilers.

Jason Giambi, at the time (without the subsequently discovered steroid use), was actually a highly coveted 1st baseman who Oakland could no longer afford to pay, but had led the league in on base percentage in 2001, and Moneyball actually focuses on filling the void that Giambi's departure had created for the team. So if you intended to mean that Smid was like Jason Giambi, then I agree, losing him created a void on the team's roster that they have yet to fill adequately unless Klefbom is ready for that role, today...

I have absolutely no inside the dressing room knowledge but perhaps Smid called out one or more of the "wonder kids" and so he gets moved along.

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#129 Smokey
November 11 2013, 02:17PM
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Dangilitis wrote:

I think you are referring to Jeremy Giambi, Jason's less talented little brother, who was arrested for drug charges in Las Vegas the season before the Moneyball movie is set. I suppose we don't know what goes on in the dressing room, but if you are referring to the scene in the movie when Jeremy was dancing after a loss to entertain his teammates, and then was traded thereafter, I can bet that Smid was NOT that kind of player. The snippets we have seen of him from the media show that he was, in fact, the opposite. Jeremy didn't care how his team was performing, while Smid would curse and be downright pissed off, which, IMO, is exactly the way a team mate who cares should react to a beatdown and a record as shotty as the Oilers.

Jason Giambi, at the time (without the subsequently discovered steroid use), was actually a highly coveted 1st baseman who Oakland could no longer afford to pay, but had led the league in on base percentage in 2001, and Moneyball actually focuses on filling the void that Giambi's departure had created for the team. So if you intended to mean that Smid was like Jason Giambi, then I agree, losing him created a void on the team's roster that they have yet to fill adequately unless Klefbom is ready for that role, today...

Smid was not traded for dancing. It was for his karaoke prowess, and silky smooth tenor voice from the rumours I heard. It was also well known he was thinking about sporting some sideburns which Mr. Katz did not like.

Luckily for Smidder, he was traded for peanuts to a better organization. There management group sees a heart and sole player who will block pucks with his face, and stand up for his teammates. (Facepalm)

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#130 Smokey
November 11 2013, 02:22PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Why would you take a player from the second last team in the NHL unless he was having a phenomenal year?

Too bad Hitchcock isn't yelling at the Oilers kids.

Read the first line...talking hypotheticals

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#131 DSF
November 11 2013, 02:28PM
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Some Oiler talk and why Minnesota is one of the best puck possession teams in the NHL from Elliote Friedman:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2013/11/30-thoughts-wild-prosper-from-playing-puck-more.html

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#132 DSF
November 11 2013, 02:29PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I have absolutely no inside the dressing room knowledge but perhaps Smid called out one or more of the "wonder kids" and so he gets moved along.

Yeah, something like this I expect.

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#133 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 11 2013, 02:29PM
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Random thought......I would gain a great deal of respect for Eakins if he volunteered to shave his head for cancer!

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#134 Rama Lama
November 11 2013, 03:00PM
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It's time for the Oilers to start taking about next year as painful as it is..........start dumping players, acquiring players, and promoting youth from the farm.

I can wait yet another year for the playoffs as long as I know there is a plan to shed players that do not fit into the long term plans.

Let's start the " turf the smurfs", plan right now!

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#135 TDSM31
November 11 2013, 03:10PM
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DSF wrote:

To be honest, Gagner isn't all that great offensively either.

7 years into his pro career he has yet to hit 50 points.

In the last full NHL season, 100 players hit the 50+ mark...many of them defensemen.

McTavish handing him that $4.8M contract for 3 years AND a NTC clause is an epic failure.

You can get Gagner level offensive production AND defensive acumen for, far, far less.

For example, Vancouver signed Mike Santorelli (5G 7A 12P +2 56.7FO%) who also is a great PK'er for $550K.

Now, I doubt Santorelli is likely long term solution at #2C for the Canucks but then Gagner isn't a long term solution at #2C for the Oilers either.

The notion of moving Gagner to the wing with his mediocre offence and limp defense makes no sense either.

He can't win puck battles on the boards and often ends up on his pants.

He IS Kyle Wellwood.

5 out of 100 is many?? I guess the Oilers will have many wins this season.

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#136 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
November 11 2013, 03:18PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Random thought......I would gain a great deal of respect for Eakins if he volunteered to shave his head for cancer!

Great idea! I'm not a fan of the Jason Priestly hair either. 9-0, nope 2-10.

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#137 oildrops
November 11 2013, 03:24PM
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DSF wrote:

Aaron Ward ✔ @aaronward_nhl

Source, Steven Stamkos has broken tibia. Told will require surgery. #TSN

In my post earlier on lowetides article NEXT!.

I mention how to play Stamkos(post#125)

Boston took him out like I said the oilers should have done then score two goals right after to win the game, that's what Edmonton should have done.

The only reason I bring this up is because I made a few more point that are correct and I still get trashed.

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#138 DSF
November 11 2013, 03:30PM
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More on Stamkos:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/27714/no-one-can-replace-steven-stamkos

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#139 David S
November 11 2013, 03:37PM
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GagnerISGREAT wrote:

Do you people actually believe what you are seeing from Gagner is how he will stay? This blog is full of idiots. He shouldn't be playing. That's the problem. He rushed back because of the record. He can't take or throw a hit because of his jaw. People calling him soft are stupid. He and Perron are the only ones with grit in the top 6. Before the jaw Gagner regularly threw a hit and has 4-5 NHL fights (I don't know the exact number) His faceoff percentage? He's had great games and terrible games. That face mask DOES effect it a lot. If you think it doesn't put one on and see how it effects your vision. Wait until he's 100% and has that mask off. Than the Gagner we know will be back.

Just wanted to re-post this for emphasis. Gagner's game is nowhere near 100%. He's floating more than normal because he's unable mentally or physically to engage. Add the full cage and you have a total lack of confidence.

I messed up my knee a few weeks ago, probably torn meniscus. My whole lower body basically shied away from any sort of normal motion and I'm still afraid to attempt stairs despite the fact it doesn't hurt anymore. I'm fighting the urge to get back to the gym because I'm scared crapless I'll be right back to square one.

Sam has his liabilities to be sure. But to judge his performance on his current circumstances is plain wrong. It'll be at least a month before he'll be anywhere near up to speed.

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#140 Pucker
November 11 2013, 04:07PM
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Let's win the next one!

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#141 Wayne Bond
November 11 2013, 04:32PM
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Do you really believe that Nashville would trade (arguably) the best defenseman in the league for a #1 and Nail or Eberle???? As usual you are greatly over rating your players; until you get reasonable NO ONE will trade with you. Nashville matched when the Flyers offered a staggering offer sheet this summer.

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#142 Gaz
November 11 2013, 04:38PM
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DSF wrote:

I followed the Vancouver coaching situation very closely and Gillis did NOT offer Eakins a job

He was interviewed the day after the Eakins interview and said he still had a few candidates to look at.

Seems like the Luongo/Schneider fiasco turned out just fine too.

Schneider - .915

Luongo - .911

Dubnyk - .876.

Oops.

You'll get no argument from me on the Oilers goaltending It also had nothing to do with my post...so I don't really see why you included it.

My point was: when Gillis claimed that it was his plan all along to move one of the two goalies, it made him look like as big a buffoon as any in the league.

And with all due respect: I don't think you know exactly what went on behind closed doors in Vancouver re: coaching hires, unless you are in fact Gillis, Aqulini, or any of those other folks...and you're not.

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#143 michael
November 11 2013, 04:50PM
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Can someone explain to me how the Oilers PP and PK got so pathetic?

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#144 Spydyr
November 11 2013, 04:57PM
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michael wrote:

Can someone explain to me how the Oilers PP and PK got so pathetic?

Ralph left.

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#145 Oiler Al
November 11 2013, 05:07PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Ralph left.

Simple, Eakin had the Fab danglers taking on the PK. These guys cant defend 5X5, what you expect them do get smarter and better on 4X5, with one less player on the ice.

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#146 Mike the Coal Miner
November 11 2013, 06:10PM
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David S wrote:

Just wanted to re-post this for emphasis. Gagner's game is nowhere near 100%. He's floating more than normal because he's unable mentally or physically to engage. Add the full cage and you have a total lack of confidence.

I messed up my knee a few weeks ago, probably torn meniscus. My whole lower body basically shied away from any sort of normal motion and I'm still afraid to attempt stairs despite the fact it doesn't hurt anymore. I'm fighting the urge to get back to the gym because I'm scared crapless I'll be right back to square one.

Sam has his liabilities to be sure. But to judge his performance on his current circumstances is plain wrong. It'll be at least a month before he'll be anywhere near up to speed.

-"no where near 100%"

-"floating more than normal"

-"he's unable to mentally and physically engage"

So we as fans are supposed to be okay with the head coach knowing this and putting him out for a crucial faceoff in the last minute of a one goal game?

Maybe you can explain to me, why we as fans, should have top watch him float around for a month while he gets up to speed?

I'm at the point where the "reasons" these professionals aren't performing don't matter.

I think its about time, we as fans, start demanding results instead of accepting excuses.

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#147 Rod from Viking
November 11 2013, 06:21PM
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@DSF

I have been wondering, is that you in the Canuck's mascot outfit in the Scotia Bank commercial?

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#148 rickithebear
November 11 2013, 06:36PM
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I look forward to MacT interviewing Kruger to be Dallas's assistant.

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#149 Andrew
November 11 2013, 06:48PM
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It seems to me one of the causes for bad morale is the players don't back each other up. Time and again I've seen Oiler players roughed up and become intimidated and timid. I've seen players like Smid and Petry hang their heads and sliink their way to the player's bench rather than stand up for their teammates. They aren't the only culprits for there are too many to mention. That has to change. I have seen some gutsy players stand up for teammates this year but far too few.

I think there are too many cowards on this team to have any chance of earning anyone's respect. The demoralized Oilers are a bunch of snivelling whiners Skill my ass...get some freaking balls already.

For all Taylor Hall's skill and passion he doesn't strike me as anything close to a team 'glue' guy. Someone needs to teach these guys what teamwork is. Ebs needs to set sside his Hollywood aspirations and focus on earning his 6 mil.

Eakins needs to shelve his bloated ego and get this thing turned around. I think there may be a circunstance that Mactavish's hand gets forced by fan and media pressure and aeakin's ass may be grass before the end o' season.

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#150 Don W
November 11 2013, 07:00PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Simple, Eakin had the Fab danglers taking on the PK. These guys cant defend 5X5, what you expect them do get smarter and better on 4X5, with one less player on the ice.

I wonder if he is putting them out there for PK in the hopes of getting through to them that they need to play smarter. If it is short term pain for long term gain I'm for it, the kids need to play simpler hockey all the time.

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