YAKUPOV WANTS MORE ICETIME

Jason Gregor
November 12 2013 01:56PM

 

Nail Yakupov wants more icetime. He wants to help his teammates win. He also feels his head coach doesn't trust him. Yakupov spoke with the media after practice today, and it was clear he was frustrated. As he should be. Losing stinks, and I'd hope every Oiler is frustrated.

Yakupov is usually very quiet and reserved with the media, but today he spoke with conviction and passion.

He was asked about his agent's, Igor Larionov, comments about a possible trade.

"I know where he is coming from, we have to do something. I don't see any trust towards me now. I'm playing lower and lower minutes, and I just want to help my team win every game. I haven't had much chance to to that, and it pretty hard to watch the game from the bench when my teammates are fighting for puck and points, because I know I can do the same thing.

"I don't want to say anything bad, but I just want to say that I want to be here. I love the city. I'd love to play with these players. We have a great staff and the atmosphere in games is great. I want to be part of the Oilers," said Yakupov.

When asked how he felt he's played defensively he responded with this:

"I've played good. I've always played like that. I watch everyone play the same. I don't think that question is for me, it is for the coach. I play good," Yakupov said.

When asked if he asked his agent to go public he responded with a smile, "I don't know, that is a tough question. I can't say anything now. Maybe we will see if something changes in a couple of days."

TRADE

He was asked directly if he has asked for a trade.

"I wasn't asking for a trade. I don't want to say anything bad, but I heard something (trade rumour) in the summer, something at the start of the season and then two weeks ago, but we'll see...who knows. I just want to play. I don't want to play nine or five minutes. I think I can play more and I think I can help my teammates to get points. We need points.

"I'm 20 years old and I think this is a  very important year for me learning to play hockey. Sometimes players who are sitting a lot when they are 19 or 20 years old they stop playing hockey. I just want to play. We will see if that ( lack of icetime) is going to be more and more, and if not we will have to figure out something," said Yakupov.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 

Yakupov is clearly frustrated. He wants to play more, and you can't blame him for that. Was this the best way to go about it? Probably not, but he isn't the first professional player to go public with his frustrations about a lack of playing time.

When Eakins spoke after Yakupov he wasn't upset at all. He said he understood Yakupov's frustration, but he said he has seen Yakupov working hard to improve his game. He also said that he won't change how he coaches because Yakupov went public with his frustrations.

The most interesting thing to me was when Yakupov said he heard trade rumours in the summer. I can't recall any rumours then, but maybe the Oilers were shopping him. 

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Igor Larionov meets with Craig MacTavish later this week. 

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#51 BleedOil4Life
November 12 2013, 08:31PM
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@FireKLowe

Ok the funny thing about your comment is this

robbie Schremp went to the islanders and did absolutely nothing everyone knew that he couldnt skate

omark is trash no matter what....no other team wants him

Magnus was traded to get a solid player back in perron.

yakupov has just started

so...get your head outta your ass

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#52 TDSM31
November 12 2013, 03:48PM
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This is where Larionov needs to do his job. Deal with it internally and make sure your client isn't spouting off publicly. Be a professional about it...the second things get a bit rough you can't go and play the blame game in the media. Jezuz, the kids played a total of 65 games in the show...the sense of entitlement on behalf of Yak and his agent makes me sick.

Maybe its a Russian thing...

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#53 DSF
November 12 2013, 07:30PM
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GVBlackhawk wrote:

And now Eakins is doing the same thing with Larsen. He has been abysmal in the defensive zone, but that is good enough for first or second defensive minutes on the team.

Yep.

And then the Oilers send Fedun (2 goals in 4 games) to OKC on the eve of his first NHL game in front of a home town crowd.

Classy.

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#54 **
November 12 2013, 06:38PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Gags definitely deserves to be benched/moved down/sat for his play since his return. If he's still injured he should stay on the sidelines. His play has been abysmal. Proof that there is a bit of a double standard imo.

Agreed

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#55 Czar
November 12 2013, 02:36PM
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I really like Yak but when will these athletes just shut up and keep the BS out of the media?

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#56 RexHolez
November 12 2013, 07:02PM
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DSF wrote:

Some observations:

As many of you will recall, I believed, and still do, that the Oilers should have drafted Galchenyuk. Whenever it's close you should always draft the centre and it was close.

Having said that, anyone who doesn't think there is a double standard at work need look no further than the abysmal defensive play of Justin Schultz.

While Schultz's rookie season looked, on the surface, like a decent one, he gave up far more than he scored at even strength...finishing the season at -17...288th in the league among defensemen.

He averaged 21:26 TOI/G.

This season, before he was injured, he was actually playing much worse.

While he was on pace for a 40 point season, he was also on pace for MINUS 58.

Now, Justin Schultz is not 20...he's 23 and despite playing 4 years in NCAA hockey, he can't play defense AT ALL.

How did Eakins respond to his putrid defensive play?

This season, his average TOI/G is 22:01.

That folks is a double standard.

Does this mean I'm not the only guy who's not a fan of Schultz. I can't believe this guy was so hyped

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#57 Rheal1
November 12 2013, 05:29PM
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DevoKnows wrote:

Fedun sent down, Potter brought up!! Another brutal decision!!!

"GONGSHOW"

What?

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#58 Cold Hard Truth
November 12 2013, 07:23PM
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Frankly, I hope for his sake Yakupov leaves this circus. Watch him go to a reputable franchise and light it up.

Then I hope it prompts an exodus of our talent who want to play elsewhere. Maybe that`ll break the resolve of Katz.

Once a competent management structure comes in, it will take years for them to undo the mess these losers have made.

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#59 DSF
November 12 2013, 08:24PM
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Rusty Patenaude wrote:

The MacTavish/Lowe braintrust strikes again. It is Joffrey Lupul all over again. Don't put a young offensive player in the situations he needs to learn and be successful. Demand that he be Bob Gainey and when he tries to be responsible defensively with mixed results sit him in the press box, shattering his confidence. In what alternate reality do MacTavish, Eakins and Lowe exist where they are in the thick of a playoff battle and have to cut back a young stars ice time for what? Why isn't Yak on the 1st powerplay being set up for that lazer one-timer? Why isn't he playing consistently with Nugent-Hopkins? Why isn't Eakins talking to him in private regularly about what is expected and why he is being used as he is? Where the Hell are the "leaders" in the locker room who ought to be taking the kid out and giving him support/tough love all through this debacle.

This is not on Yak. He is a passionate kid. he wears his heart on his sleeve, that is why we fell in love with the guy last season. This is on the coaching staff, management and the team leaders (if you can call it leadership when a team which names a guy captain before he even puts on the jersey)

Jesus, it is like Punch Imlach screwing over Frank Mahovolich all over again...except even Punch learned his lesson and kept out of Gilbert Perreault's head. Wish I could say the same for MacTavish et al.

This.

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#60 Space Cowboy
November 12 2013, 06:35PM
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What all the fuss is? Comrade Yak speaks of which is true. I too do this kind of talk. When my teammates do not skate hard back, then no fault they score goals in my net.

We will be good comrades in cold Siber....er Edmonton.

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#61 DAVE
November 12 2013, 08:29PM
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yakapov, larianov, can both fukov

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#62 NJ
November 12 2013, 04:21PM
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Tim in Kelowna wrote:

This is bad news. He is getting the ice-time he deserves. The play constantly dies on his stick by trying to make the individual play. If I were Eakins I wouldn't give him any more ice time until Yak figured out that he has to use his teammates to help the team. He isn't scoring and he turns the puck over. So why would he get more ice time? Because he's a 1st OA pick? Garbage.

At this rate, with an attitude like that, his value will only decrease. This team needs SO MUCH HELP at SO MANY POSITIONS, I'd be working the phones pretty hard if I were MacT.

IF everyone got the time they "deserved" on the oil, we wouldn't have a team for half the game and all the tenders would be in the AHL. Seriously. Tell me. Does Gagner deserve to be on the ice? Look at the +- of the whole team.

He should get more ice time because this season is shot already, and the more ice time he gets the more he learns. The steeper the learning curve, the sooner we get the the master instead of the student. Yakupov IS going to be a bonafide sniper. The real deal. Is giving Smyth that ice time helping us next year?

He deserves the same ice time Rnh and Hall got in their first year. You have a changing standard based on where this rebuild is supposed to be. The exception to all this is IF the limited minutes is a lesson learned by Yak and he learns 2 way play... That would be ideal. If it ends with him being shipped out of town for anything but a #1 d man (Jones), than I say it's a damn shame and a mistake we'll look back on with 20/20 and regret with tears.

Last. Bench someone else. Confidence is everything in this league and taking the spotlight OFF Yak would be a brilliant decision at this point. Me as a 20 year old, you as the reader and pretty much any 20 year old would never react so superbly to a benching. Give the kid a break.

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#63 DevoKnows
November 12 2013, 05:24PM
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Fedun sent down, Potter brought up!! Another brutal decision!!!

"GONGSHOW"

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#64 j
November 12 2013, 09:03PM
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D-Unit wrote:

I still can't figure out what all the hype was about Schultz. Everyone seemed to wet themselves with excitement that a free agent, who never played an NHL game picked the Oilers. Seemed obvious that there must have been some baggage or issues, that he was a rookie free agent. Then the Oilers give him a contract that like he was a first overall pick. Why? My next fear is what they will do with him as an RFA. Probably want to give him a raise, which he hasn't earned. This will be a big telling item for MacTin my opinion.

You mean the J Schultz who was the best college player prior to turning pro? The J Schultz who was better than any defenseman available in the draft that year as he was 4 years older? The J Schultz who made the AHL look like a junior B league? That J Schultz? The Oilers have amazing talent. They just don't have enough veteran leadership to hone it properly. Coaches can't be held fully responsible - it takes peer support and mentors. J Schultz is a great offensive hockey player. He is exactly as advertised and exactly what we need. Unfortunately, we don't have enough of our 'other' needs filled for it to make a difference.

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#65 Smokey
November 12 2013, 02:50PM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

Good thing we didn't flush away that 1st overall pick. Who needs a good teammate when you can have the Russian Rocket pt. 2. Does this further diminish his trade value?

His trade value is the same...He's a 20 year old potential sniper...This is what game 65 for him.

Remember Jumpin Jo. Ya he sucked for 2 years.

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#66 **
November 12 2013, 06:32PM
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pkam wrote:

Yak is averaging over 15 min per game over 17 games, and over 17 min over the first 13 games, and he has 3 pts in his 13 games and 4 pts in 17 games. So how much more ice time does he need to help the team win?

Didn't Ben Eager say similar thing too? "I can't do much with 8 min per game." I guess Ben Eager was right and he really wanted to help the team win so we should give him 20 min per game.

Mark Acrobello had less min per game than Yak had in his 1st 13 games. Did Acrobello complain he is not having enough ice time? Oh right, he was averaging almost a point per game in his first 13 games.

Hall and Eberle were getting about 16 min per game in their 1st year and did you hear them complain?

your ice time average is out of context because Yakupov's ice time has been greatly and gradually diminished over the last 6 games from a peak 21:34 to 10:54.

Here are his ice times:

10:54 10:46 (bottom) 11:08 12:47 15:06 21:34 (peak) 20:13 16:16 19:08 15:54 13:05 17:34 17:29 13:21 16:34 16:13 14:57

You are comparing a mature Arcobello, 25 years old, been through several pro seasons in other leagues, to Young Nail Yakupov, immature, still learning a language, his first full pro season. You are comparing apples with oranges. Remember how much leeway Hall and Nuge and Eberle and GAgner got when they were where Yakupov is now and then I dare you to tell me that Yak is not being given the short end of the stick.

Taylor Hall first season: 65 22 20 42points,plus/minus-9

Jordan Eberle first season: 69 18 25 43 -12

Nuge: 62 18 34 52 -2

Gagner:

79 13 36 49 -21

YAkupov (games so far):

65 19 16 35 -18

average ice time (ES) on their first seasons:

Hall: 15:26 Ebs: 14:27 Nuge: 14:33 Gagner:12:46 Yakupov: 12:34

Yakupov has actually done a bit more with less ice time and given the fact that he played half a season, which cut his production short. HE might have had more points than everyone else given how well he ended last season. It is easier to throw hate at YAk for speaking his mind than to fact check and see if there is merit into what he is saying. This post goes to all you Yak haters out there who don't even bother to check basic numbers before you throw your poison.

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#67 madjam
November 12 2013, 08:49PM
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DSF wrote:

If you were starting an expansion team, would you hire Lowe, MacT and Eakins to run the show?

Didn't think so.

No one else in the NHL would hire any one of them.

Seems rather ridiculous to keep MacT. and Eakins when they are doing so much worse than the ones they replaced . Results prove it .

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#68 Hemmercules
November 12 2013, 03:07PM
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What a spoiled brat. Guy plays half a season in the NHL and suddenly they owe him 25 minutes a night. Then he goes crying to his agent over it. Pretty tough to respect a fellow player when he makes comments and acts the way he does. Time to grow up.

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#69 nrXic
November 12 2013, 04:37PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Ask Sheldon Souray how well speaking out against management works.

Yak doesn't think he played badly? I think he needs to watch some tape, quit comparing his game to anyone else's and remember what he's getting paid for. His effort sucks a lot of the time. He gives up on the puck if he thinks he can't get and it happens all too often.

You want ice time Yak, prove you DESERVE ice time. Stop acting like an entitled brat.

He's not entitled to more ice time but he is entitled to fairness, something that he doesn't see from his perspective. (I'm talking about his perception, let's remember the distinction between perception and reality, his perception may or may not line up with reality).

It's the only reason why I'd side with Yak. Early this season I wanted him off the ice because he was just an apparent defensive liability. He was playing horrible away from the puck in every zone. He was almost invisible, a clear contrast to his play late last year.

It's clearly a mental issue, as he's demonstrated that he can play decent away from the puck, late last year, so I figured the coaching staff would have helped him turn it around.

With all that in mind, I see a player like Larsen cough up the puck at all ends, and I want him off the ice too. What happens? He's out there at points in the game where the game is on the line.

Yak seems to notice this as well.

We used to go with a 4 FWDs and 1 Defenseman Powerplay unit last year that worked well. Sometimes Yak would play the point, and he did well, making great plays to keep the puck in the zone. I preferred him on the wall, but hey, he still made some fantastic passes and shots from the point. Nowadays, we see 2 D on the PP with Larsen being one of them, coughing it up at the blue line on a consistent basis. (I don't mean to beat up on Larsen, but like Yak's poor play I'm just saying it like it is)

We all know we have a horrible PP this year. Part of that could be the under utilization of Yak who got 1/3 of his goals last year on the PP. 1/3 of his goal output...we're ignoring the gravity of that by putting him out on the 2nd unit.

In regards to this situation, I give everyone failing grades. Yak, his agent, the coach (who says "I won't be hounding him but he can come talk to me"), the players on the Oilers who've been through the same situation (Hemsky, though he's a quiet guy so I can't really be that mad at him), the GM (who claimed the source was incorrect), and the Edmonton media (specifically Rishaug who's willing to ask direct questions to Yak, but not to the other players who are part of a larger problem).

I give credit to Yak here for one thing. While he made a mistake in not talking to the team directly about his feelings (or maybe he did), the next best thing was to talk to his agent, and NOT the media. That's exactly what he did. Larionov should have had the right of mind to not make this issue public. I'm sure Hall, Ebs, Nuge, etc have said some things to their agents, and got some good advice from them. Larionov should have been feeding Yak some more responsible advice on the situation. What just happened negatively impacts everybody (including Larionov as a player agent) and the organization as a whole.

In the face of adversity there is opportunity, and this is a fantastic opportunity for MacT to salvage the situation in order to create a stronger team. He should not look at this as competing interests, but rather the same interest and the same goal for all parties involved. His legacy as a GM can be defined in this moment. This is a team at the end of its rope. Hints of fragmentation, apparent perceptions of unfairness, underperforming superstars hinting team unpreparedness (Eberle mentioned this in a post game interview recently)...I sincerely believe that all on-ice woes can be solved through direct communication and not talking through the media. If the team can become stronger through this, then MacT is the sort of GM any team would want.

Sorry for the essay guys. :P

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#70 Quicksilver ballet
November 12 2013, 04:54PM
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Newj wrote:

I would agree with most of those statements, but Yak wasn't a Krueger favourite either.

Just clarifying that this current situation wasn't much different than under Krueger.

Ah, someone's paying attention. I'm not saying he made fewer mistakes last season compared to this one. I was just trying to get across the fact that Krueger and his staff kept it in the dressing room. Not out in the open and creating a toxic environment like Eakins has done. That finger pointing is squarely on our all hat, no cattle coach. Even though warranted, we've never seen that finger pointed in the direction of Hallsy or Eberle, or even Gags these last half dozen games.

Yakupov is a 20 yr old kid. The Oilers organization as a whole, are handling things much like a beginner as well. Good on Yakupov for further embarrassing this organization. As if 6 rings, as well as the on ice play hasn't done a bang up job on that already. The Oilers still have 63 out of 82 remaining nothing games to teach him how to be better without the puck. Use this downtime wisely.

This is Kevin Lowes bed. He made it, let him sleep in it. These are just some of those shippy little details organizations like the Oilers have to go through before changes/realization sets in. What goes around, comes around (Souray) for Lowe and company.

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#71 Harry
November 12 2013, 11:26PM
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Nimrod wrote:

Embarrassing for the media covering Oilers that they gleefully grill a kid for nine minutes but haven't got the guts to ask a single hard question to the most incompetent management group in hockey for the last half dozen years.

Very very well said!

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#72 Jerkmiov
November 12 2013, 02:49PM
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Those are some aggressive journalists working for the Oilers. Or are they working for their respective organizations? Or Both? Either way, the story is already set and Yak will be run out of town.

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#73 Smokey
November 12 2013, 03:10PM
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Those making comments about sending Yak to the minors, ya lets compound the problem.

In regards to all these kids play the hell outta then. Move out the pieces you don't want, and begin retooling the rebuild. We have to develop these kids, let them play 20 minutes a night, let them figure it out.

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#74 DAVE
November 12 2013, 04:22PM
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Send Yak to the minors, the kid has some growing up to do.

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#75 madjam
November 12 2013, 07:12PM
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Is MacT. in over his head and Eakins as well ? This situation should have been handled internally and without having Larionov come here .

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#76 Batfink
November 12 2013, 07:12PM
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Accountability? Try starting at the top. Why should anybody be held accountable after the crap the management has put them through? Smid dealt for magic beans, a coach who never takes responsibility for the team's poor play and is a snake oil salesman, other players clearly not doing their bit. Until they have unimpeachable integrity in senior positions on and off the ice leading by example, then we are going nowhere. This team NEEDS leadership, not purile dishing out of ice time to favourites, nor the sand bagging of the types of player with the character we need (Smid).

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#77 ijames93
November 12 2013, 03:08PM
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Honestly, i think Yak needs to settle down and let the coaching staff do their jobs. I think if he wants more ice time he needs to show the drive and determination which justifies more ice time

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#78 ReJ
November 12 2013, 03:47PM
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LOOOOUUDDD NOISES!

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#79 Rama Lama
November 12 2013, 03:47PM
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PREDICTION:

Wait till Bryz sounds off after letting in 7 goals.........it will then be the Bryz/Yak show ..........coming soon to a theatre near you.

The Yakabryz .........a movie about something so sinister that you will be frightened to death and ask for the Gulags!

Director: Mr. Fitness........."I had no idea that this duo was so good"! Executive Producer: Mr Six Rings......"no players have called me this many names before"!

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#80 pkam
November 12 2013, 03:59PM
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doubleA34 wrote:

ebs, hall and nuge were all aloud to develop by making mistakes and learning from them the last couple years why should yaks be treated any different. Give him playing time and allow him to develop.

Because even with their mistakes, they are still the best players in the team. Can you tell me who was better than Hall, Eberle, and RNH in the past 2-3 years? In other words, they earn their ice time by being the best players.

If Yak want to get the same ice time as Hall, Eberle and RNH, all he has to is to play as good as the other 3 kids.

Eberle is 15 pts in 19 game, RNH is 13 pts in 17 games, and Hall is 12 pts in 12 games. Even Hemsky has 9 pts in 19 games.

Yak was averaging about 17 min per game in his first 13 games and he only produced 3 pts. If he can produce at similar rate as the other kids, I am sure he will get more ice time.

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#81 Dog Train
November 12 2013, 06:32PM
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There are a whole bunch of players on this team I would bench right now because of indifference defensively. The only difference being that some of them are at least scoring. You can't bench everybody.

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#82 DSF
November 12 2013, 07:27PM
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Harlie wrote:

C'mon, anyone with a set of eyes and a functioning brain stem can see that Yakupov without the puck is nothing but a cherry picker.

And no one likes a cherry picker.

Especially, on the blue collar journeyman hardworking Eakins and Craig 4thLine grinder and hustler MacTavish's watch!

This is all nothing but a clash of minds. And the stupid thing is the waste of talent and the reduction of value in an asset through this stupidity.

Just who is acting entitled here? *

* Thinks of Souray saw off.

Thing is...Souray has thrived and Lowe is just as bad as he ever was.

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#83 Spoils
November 12 2013, 03:31PM
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How many people in the NHL can wire a one timer like he did against the Hawks.

I love how he sits there with his stick cocked. Sega 94 style we should be trying to get him 5-10 shots a game.

Bad tactics whether it is him or Igor, but mgt needs to be the adults in the room and finesse some way to make sure this situation doesn't get out of control (for Nail and the team).

It is their job to get the best out of their investment in Nail.

Nothing would be worse than trading him and having him become a 30-50 goal scorer.

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#84 pkam
November 12 2013, 04:15PM
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nunyour wrote:

I think Yak was trying to say,that if he is benched for poor play why is Dubnyk not benched?

Dubnyk was. But Labarbera wasn't any better so they called up Bachman but he injured himself after 2 games. So what is the coach supposed to do since Dubnyk is the best goalie we have at the moment?

If Yak is comparing Dubnyk's case, then he need to have his brain checked.

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#85 Quintana
November 12 2013, 08:47PM
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** wrote:

Facts:

Yakupov is not a very good defensive player. Yakupov was drafted for being an exceptional offensive player.

EAkins said in the summer he would get to know his players by meeting one on one, having water cooler conversations, things like that. Eakins said today that he hasn't spoken with Yakupov one on one about his lack of ice time or his level of trust in him.

Eakins said in the summer it would not matter contract status, or age, everyone would be accountable. Eakins has 7 players at the bottom of the plus/minus stats. Yaks with -14, Hemsky and Nuge with -12, Petry -11, Schultz -10, Gagner -9. Who is the only player being sent to the fourth line and being scratched not once but twice and getting his ice time greatly diminished?: Yakupov.

Steven Stamkos stats for his first season (79 games): 11:58 average ice time per game 23G, 23A, 46 points, plus/minus -13 (keep in mind he is a center with more defensive responsibility)

Nail Yakupov's stats for his first combined 65 games: 12:34 average ice time per game 19G, 16A, 35 points, plus/minus -18 ( this is the combined total of two seasons, with a long break in the summer that could be argued impacted the continuity of Yakupov's development, given how he closed last season, he might have had more points by this time had he played those 65 games continuously. )

Anyone who reads this please tell me:

A) if Yakupov is being given fair treatment, given how long a leash Ebs Hall Nuge Gagner and Hemsky have had on season's past ( I know it is a different coach but he should be aware of these things).

B) If Yakupov's numbers compared to another 1st overall who turned out to be an elite player are that far off course to be trying to run the guy out of town.

Ps: I don't like the plus/minus stat, I think it is extremely flawed, but I have seen it on Edmonton media as an indictment of Yakupov so that is why I included it.

PPS: Jussi JOkinen was traded mid season to make room for Stamkos to play more minutes because that management believed Stamkos was the future even though Jokinen was having a great season and wanted to put him in a legitimate position to succeed.

This.

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#86 Loyal Oil
November 13 2013, 12:54AM
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Nimrod wrote:

Embarrassing for the media covering Oilers that they gleefully grill a kid for nine minutes but haven't got the guts to ask a single hard question to the most incompetent management group in hockey for the last half dozen years.

THIS ^. even the ON writers don't hold six rings accountable for this mess. Easier to bash a barely 20 year old kid from a different country that is just learning the language and is of a different religion. This is a sad day for the City of Edmonton.

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#87 Tim in Kelowna
November 12 2013, 03:33PM
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This is bad news. He is getting the ice-time he deserves. The play constantly dies on his stick by trying to make the individual play. If I were Eakins I wouldn't give him any more ice time until Yak figured out that he has to use his teammates to help the team. He isn't scoring and he turns the puck over. So why would he get more ice time? Because he's a 1st OA pick? Garbage.

At this rate, with an attitude like that, his value will only decrease. This team needs SO MUCH HELP at SO MANY POSITIONS, I'd be working the phones pretty hard if I were MacT.

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#88 TDSM31
November 12 2013, 04:12PM
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Ya...because a Canadian kid has never felt entitled. That Lindros kid dug down deep and played hard for the Nordiques despite not wanting to play there...

True enough...that Russian comment was probably offside. But still, I think the agent needs to handle this situation a lot better. You gotta suck it up every once and awhile. With all the sh*t this team is going through right now, its pretty selfish to be bitching publicly about ice time...and its not like he's getting 5 minutes a game.

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#89 BIGDAWG
November 12 2013, 05:09PM
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I think we are seeing why PLAYERS don't want to come to this city.. Seems pretty clear to me.. Total Gong Show.... It friggin hurts to be a oilers fan.. Not sure how long this kind of crap can go on.. How long will season ticket holders pay thee crazy prices while watching what is being put out there.. I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel.. in fact, it feels like a dark circular tunnel heading to nowhere land..

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#90 Cold Hard Truth
November 12 2013, 07:15PM
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The fans need to start being more vocal about demanding Lowe's resignation. MacTavish's too, since he only became GM not out of merit, but out of patronage. And come to think of it, fire Eakins too, since hiring a him was the mistake of a GM who did not deserve to make that decision in the first place.

Also, the journalists need to grow a pair of balls and start calling a spade a spade. I`m tired of reading palliative pieces from journalists who skirt around the issues so they don`t lose their access to hot scoops.

Next game fans should start chanting `fire Lowe,` or stage a collective walk-out.

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#91 KenL
November 12 2013, 02:46PM
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Send him to the minors to learn to play better defensive hockey and a better attitude. It might look punitive, but when you call out your coach and GM when they had your back last week and dispelled the trade rumours - you deserved to be punished.

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#92 Poly
November 12 2013, 03:38PM
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@reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)

I do not think Lowe is calling the shots any more, but he has say.

I do believe that Tambellini was only a store front, and was largely selected because he was somewhat weak and easily influenced. I do not think Mactavish is as weak willed or easily controlled.

Either way, were both just baselessly speculating.

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#93 madjam
November 12 2013, 03:59PM
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MacT. and his coach Eakins are of like minds , and Kreuger was not . PROBLEM: Eakins wants players like a MacT. mold , but Eakins has little to no idea of how to mold elite talents . Results prove it , as Kreuger had far more success with developing our elite talents with less of a base . How can tou justify getting rid of Kreuger and then not Eakins ? You can't because Kreuger certainy got more out of them and team than current coach . Rectify it and bring back Kreuger if you want to keep a coach that can better service and motivate our elite talents . Should maybe send MacT. packing with him as well , seeing as it was his oversight ? I don't recall Kreuger blaming the players like current staff seems to be doing in their C.Y.A.( cover your a--) circus of guilty parties .

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#94 nunyour
November 12 2013, 04:10PM
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I think Yak was trying to say,that if he is benched for poor play why is Dubnyk not benched?

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#95 Spydyr
November 12 2013, 06:16PM
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Hey Yak,so you want more ice time huh?Why don't you try the old fashion way and earn it.Instead of whining in the media.He is just another young entitled or so he thinks kid.What ever happened to hard work and earning something instead of having it handed to you?

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#96 Pouzar99
November 12 2013, 07:29PM
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Calm down folks. Everybody involved has to take a deep breath on this ones. The kid is frustrated and it might be best for everyone that he blew off some steam. Yes, his defensive play has been unacceptable, but he has a lot of company, especially Justin Schultz, as DSF correctly points out.

If Yak has to earn his ice time What about Gagner, Hall, Hemsky and Justin Schultz? Hall's offensive contribution helps obviously, but he is still a major offender defensively. Nuge and Arcobello bust their butts in both ends, why can't the other top six players. Eberle and Perron are okay, but could also play better on the defensive end.

Last season they worked hard with Yak and he got to be a far more complete player as the year went along. Where has all that gone?

I think it is pretty obvious by this point that Eakins isn't exactly a strategic genius. My cat could pick better line combinations and his defensive system design has been a series of busts. Putting Gagner at center for his first game back and matching him up against the red hot Kessel line was a very predictable shocker, just to name one example.

Remember one more thing about Yak. He is a Russian and they have a hockey league. If things become intolerable here he has an easy option. He is going to have to dig down and play a far more complete game, but if he can sit and watch or be shifted down to the 4th line so can others. How about a concession which is just common sense anyway. Put Yak on the first PP unit. He's got the best shot on the team by a mile and every one else on the unit is a pass first guy. Let that cannon rip. And give him some extra shifts on the top three lines if you play on the 4th. its not like we have anything to lose. Except a proud, gifted but flawed young player who will be a star somewhere eventually.

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#97 DSF
November 12 2013, 07:55PM
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madjam wrote:

Is MacT. in over his head and Eakins as well ? This situation should have been handled internally and without having Larionov come here .

If you were starting an expansion team, would you hire Lowe, MacT and Eakins to run the show?

Didn't think so.

No one else in the NHL would hire any one of them.

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#98 DSF
November 12 2013, 08:19PM
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Butters wrote:

Nah, the Oilers would have ruined Galchenyuk too.

Maybe.

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#99 D-Unit
November 12 2013, 08:21PM
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DSF wrote:

Some observations:

As many of you will recall, I believed, and still do, that the Oilers should have drafted Galchenyuk. Whenever it's close you should always draft the centre and it was close.

Having said that, anyone who doesn't think there is a double standard at work need look no further than the abysmal defensive play of Justin Schultz.

While Schultz's rookie season looked, on the surface, like a decent one, he gave up far more than he scored at even strength...finishing the season at -17...288th in the league among defensemen.

He averaged 21:26 TOI/G.

This season, before he was injured, he was actually playing much worse.

While he was on pace for a 40 point season, he was also on pace for MINUS 58.

Now, Justin Schultz is not 20...he's 23 and despite playing 4 years in NCAA hockey, he can't play defense AT ALL.

How did Eakins respond to his putrid defensive play?

This season, his average TOI/G is 22:01.

That folks is a double standard.

I still can't figure out what all the hype was about Schultz. Everyone seemed to wet themselves with excitement that a free agent, who never played an NHL game picked the Oilers. Seemed obvious that there must have been some baggage or issues, that he was a rookie free agent. Then the Oilers give him a contract that like he was a first overall pick. Why? My next fear is what they will do with him as an RFA. Probably want to give him a raise, which he hasn't earned. This will be a big telling item for MacTin my opinion.

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#100 DSF
November 12 2013, 09:41PM
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Crimson steel wrote:

So the oil screwed up on schemp! He could not crack the other 2 NHL teams he played for either! Jury is still out on omark and check paajarvi's stats so far this season! The oil have screwed the hooch on lots of deals but not these ones!

And yet they drafted all 3 of them...2 in the first round.

Fail.

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