YAKUPOV WANTS MORE ICETIME

Jason Gregor
November 12 2013 01:56PM

 

Nail Yakupov wants more icetime. He wants to help his teammates win. He also feels his head coach doesn't trust him. Yakupov spoke with the media after practice today, and it was clear he was frustrated. As he should be. Losing stinks, and I'd hope every Oiler is frustrated.

Yakupov is usually very quiet and reserved with the media, but today he spoke with conviction and passion.

He was asked about his agent's, Igor Larionov, comments about a possible trade.

"I know where he is coming from, we have to do something. I don't see any trust towards me now. I'm playing lower and lower minutes, and I just want to help my team win every game. I haven't had much chance to to that, and it pretty hard to watch the game from the bench when my teammates are fighting for puck and points, because I know I can do the same thing.

"I don't want to say anything bad, but I just want to say that I want to be here. I love the city. I'd love to play with these players. We have a great staff and the atmosphere in games is great. I want to be part of the Oilers," said Yakupov.

When asked how he felt he's played defensively he responded with this:

"I've played good. I've always played like that. I watch everyone play the same. I don't think that question is for me, it is for the coach. I play good," Yakupov said.

When asked if he asked his agent to go public he responded with a smile, "I don't know, that is a tough question. I can't say anything now. Maybe we will see if something changes in a couple of days."

TRADE

He was asked directly if he has asked for a trade.

"I wasn't asking for a trade. I don't want to say anything bad, but I heard something (trade rumour) in the summer, something at the start of the season and then two weeks ago, but we'll see...who knows. I just want to play. I don't want to play nine or five minutes. I think I can play more and I think I can help my teammates to get points. We need points.

"I'm 20 years old and I think this is a  very important year for me learning to play hockey. Sometimes players who are sitting a lot when they are 19 or 20 years old they stop playing hockey. I just want to play. We will see if that ( lack of icetime) is going to be more and more, and if not we will have to figure out something," said Yakupov.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 

Yakupov is clearly frustrated. He wants to play more, and you can't blame him for that. Was this the best way to go about it? Probably not, but he isn't the first professional player to go public with his frustrations about a lack of playing time.

When Eakins spoke after Yakupov he wasn't upset at all. He said he understood Yakupov's frustration, but he said he has seen Yakupov working hard to improve his game. He also said that he won't change how he coaches because Yakupov went public with his frustrations.

The most interesting thing to me was when Yakupov said he heard trade rumours in the summer. I can't recall any rumours then, but maybe the Oilers were shopping him. 

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Igor Larionov meets with Craig MacTavish later this week. 

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#201 Lowe Expectations
November 12 2013, 05:23PM
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Maybe Yakupov has anger at not getting ice time because he thought he might get on the Russian team for the olympics. But that dream is basically dead and he's taking aim at anyone in authority

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#202 pkam
November 12 2013, 09:51PM
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Randaman wrote:

Eberle ha played on the perimeter all year with out a hit thrown and has gotten his points. Does that make him better than Yak that throws checks and stands up for himself like in the Chicago game? Yes & no. Hall & Nugr are the stars of this group and Yak should be on their wing so he can show what he can do with first line talent and ice time. Third line minutes with Hemsky won't help as has been proven thus far this season. Hall, Ebs &Nuge were given that opportunity. Why not try it and see. Gags, Ebs & Perron is a quality mix for a second line. Gordon, Hemsky & Smyth for a third. Arcabello, Jonseeu & Jones/gazdic for a fourth. Problem solved. What is there to lose at this point. Remember the chemistry Hall & Yak developed late last season??

Eberle has 11 hits 15 pts and -3 in 19 games.

Yak has 14 hits 4 pts and -14 in 17 games.

So we should play Yak in the 1st line?

I thought we all agree that nobody should get a free pass, whether you are veteran or rookie, 1st overall or undrafted, everyone has to earn their ice time?

Yak has more ice time than Acrobello in their first 13 games. Acrobello has more point than Yak, better +/-, and more hits than Yak. What has Yak done to earn more ice time than Acrobello?

So far this season 2 players, Gagner and Yak, get free passes. The only difference is Yak's free pass was taken away after 13 games, and Gagner is still enjoying his free pass after 6 games. Will the same happen to Gagner, we will see after 13 games.

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#203 Sammer003
November 12 2013, 11:43PM
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Harry wrote:

Im no MacT lover but I think a GM should be given more than 7 months to fix a roster

KLowe has had more time than his Stanley Cup rings to turn it around. It's top down, and KLowe managed to bring the team Lower and Lower.

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#204 pkam
November 13 2013, 12:43AM
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** wrote:

I took the ice time from the NHL site. I combined the numbers from this season and last season.I didn't just add them, you have to multiply the proportion of games from each season by the total number of games (65) and then multiply that by each average ice time provided by the NHL website. Your numbers are out of context because you are averaging this season. It is like saying someone is not starving to death because he has eaten an average of 500 grams of beef over 10 days, when the reality is that person ate 2 kgs of beef the first five days and then nothing on the last 5.

You're right, I am talking about his ice this season. Yak didn't complain his ice time last season. Did he?

The fact is his ice time has up this season until the last 4 games. He has about 17 minutes per game for 13 games and he put up 1 pt. Even Eakins cut his ice time in the last 4 games, his average ice time with Eakins is still over 15 minutes per game.

So the coach gave you 13 games at 17 minutes per game and you put up 1 pt, what is the coach going to say when the other players question why they put up more points and better +/- per 60 minutes were not given more ice time?

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#205 Oilcruzer
November 13 2013, 05:02AM
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Bad idea here.

Play him more and coach risks losing cred.

If you don't play him more.... Well...

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#206 TKB2677
November 13 2013, 08:40AM
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What ever happened to EARNING your ice time? Is that not applicable anymore in the NHL according to Yakupov?

He's a league worst -14. He has 2 goals, 4 points in 17 games. He is an offensive player so when he isn't scoring, he doesn't do much else. I don't think anyone expects Yakupov to compete for the Selke but he could at least not be a complete train wreck in his own zone.

When the Yak booster club come out and bring up that Hall, Nuge, Eberle all are giving the puck and poor Yak is being singled out, I always laugh. They are right, those 3 need to be much better with the puck but here's the kicker. THEY ARE PRODUCING!! Eberle - 15 pts Nuge - 13 pts Hall - 12 pts

So what has he done to earn anymore ice time. If he was scoring you could cover your eyes a bite and let him make mistakes because he still scores. He's not scoring. SO not only is he terrible defensively and from his comments thinks he's doing a good job, he isn't scoring at all to at least make up for his defensively lapses.

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#207 2004Z06
November 13 2013, 08:43AM
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I think the biggest issue with this situation is Yak is not on a level playing field here. Taylor Hall, RNH, Eberle, Gagner, J Schultz have all been turnover machines this year. They are all amongst the worst in the league +/- yet not one of them has been sat. Eakins preached accountability regardless of age or money or draft order.

All are accountable for this debacle, not just Yak.

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#208 madjam
November 13 2013, 08:58AM
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PROBLEM FOUND ? Onus on MacT. to correct it before things get further out of hand .

MANAGING THE CAP - Taken from coppernblue article by gew_rocks . Defence - first pairing usually has 10% minimum with average being $15% , max.17% - we are at $8% only . That's a huge problem with a bad defence to begin with .Ridding of Smid very questionable . Goalie is 6% minimum, Ave.8% , and max.11% . We are once again way under budget at 5% . Forwards we are okay except for being at max 15% third line .

As one can see , when you scrimpout on goalie and defence you put an inordinant amount of pressure on forwards to over compensate their offensive games to accommodate the two worst areas of our hockey club -goalie and defence . Results show just that do they not ? Ridding of Hemsky and Smtyh might help alleviate that problem before allowing our youth to flee . Seems like MacT. the bulk of the problems here believe it or not .

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#209 Edmonton First
November 13 2013, 08:59AM
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My god... you Edmonton fans are still drinking the coolaide huh?

Listen to some of the garbage some of you are saying about Yakupov.

The Oilers are a mess...

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#210 jr_christ
November 13 2013, 09:01AM
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pkam wrote:

Hall, Eberle, etc put up points, does Yak? If you are a liability in defense and not an asset in offense, should the coach bench those who at least contribute in offense to give you the ice time you want?

Sure he should bench Yak. He'll just want out of Edmonton. That's the kind of win-win you are looking for though?

Does he have a sense of entitlement? Of course he does... he was picked 1st overall. At least he doesn't through temper tantrums like Hall does on the ice. That's just pathetic.

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#211 Hockey Problems
November 13 2013, 11:41AM
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camdog wrote:

Terry Jones is an old grump, he isn't somebody to use as an example for anything.

As to Yaks being singled out, well he singled himself out when he went to the media, this he did on his own.

His agent went to the media. Yak has to deal with the fallout

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#212 oilbaron
November 12 2013, 08:12PM
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I haven't read any comments so I apologize if this has already been said. I for one would give him what he wants and play the kid 25 minutes tomorrow night. We will see how he responds than. Throw him out in every zone start available. If we win great and if we lose, it don't really matter anyway cause we suck anyhow.

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#213 Crimson steel
November 12 2013, 09:41PM
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FireKLowe wrote:

They fcuked up Shremp, Omark, Paajarvi, and now Yakapov! Good job Oiler management!

So the oil screwed up on schemp! He could not crack the other 2 NHL teams he played for either! Jury is still out on omark and check paajarvi's stats so far this season! The oil have screwed the hooch on lots of deals but not these ones!

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#214 Zarny
November 12 2013, 11:05PM
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Of course Yakupov wants more ice time. Every player wants more. Ryan Jones said the best thing about being sent down was more ice time.

And Yak's situation is on Yak.

Not Eakins. Not Kevin Lowe. Not the guy selling hot dogs and beer.

Statistical comparisons to Stamkos over 65 games etc are irrelevant.

Yak wasn't a healthy scratch because he played poorly. He was a healthy scratch because he played poorly and didn't seem to care.

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#215 **
November 12 2013, 11:12PM
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pkam wrote:

I said the ice time of his first 13 game average 17 minutes and over 17 games average 15 minutes.

Using the ice time you provided, if you add the ice time of his first 13 games, it totals 217:24, average 16:43. If you add all 17 games, it totals 262:59, average 15:28.

So where is it out of context?

Hall, Eberle and Nuge got more minutes in their rookie season because the Oilers were so bad those years that they were our best players even they were rookies. Even when they don't perform, there is no quality players to compete the ice time with them.

Now Eberle, Hall, RNH, Perron are eating the big minutes. If Yak doesn't perform, then the other kids will get more minutes.

I didn't Acrobello to Yak. I just point out that Acrobello has to earn his ice time. Other than Gagner so far, nobody is getting free ice time.

Do I think Gagner should get the free pass? No. I think he should be in the IR. I can't remember which game but I remember his jaw hurt after taking a big hit to his shoulder. I don't think he is 100% so I don't understand why not only they play him, but play him a lot of tough minutes.

I took the ice time from the NHL site. I combined the numbers from this season and last season.I didn't just add them, you have to multiply the proportion of games from each season by the total number of games (65) and then multiply that by each average ice time provided by the NHL website. Your numbers are out of context because you are averaging this season. It is like saying someone is not starving to death because he has eaten an average of 500 grams of beef over 10 days, when the reality is that person ate 2 kgs of beef the first five days and then nothing on the last 5.

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#216 xxxxxx
November 13 2013, 06:58AM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Bad idea here.

Play him more and coach risks losing cred.

If you don't play him more.... Well...

you mean coach loses even MORE credibility.....thats something this whole organization lacks right now....

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#217 The_CWD_GarbageMan
November 13 2013, 07:30AM
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Figure a guy like Larionov would know that he's playing attrocious D. The whole team is but take your lumps like a man and play better (ie. The Stamkos).

He's lucky we dont have gulags here.

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#218 Truth
November 13 2013, 08:12AM
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This sours me on Yak. You're 20 years old, the worst plus minus in the league, and are clearly no better than two other players that play your position at this time. Be better than at least one of them in all areas of the ice and your ice time will go up. Whining to the media about it does not make you a better player. If I was Ference I would sit down with him and tell him how life works, maybe tell him it is a team decision that he sits the next game or two until he realizes it is a team sport and the coach decides how to utilize each player to give the team the best chance to win.

On the other side of it, Eakins is clearly a hard ass and his style of coaching is not what Yakupov is used to. In the preseason I remember Eakins commenting on how he has to get to know each individual to get an idea on what makes each player tick. Obviously his approach with Yak is not working. Yak's antics cannot do anything but worsen his relationship with his coach. I see Yak or Eakins gone prior to the start of next season, and I bet MacT doesn't want to fire 2 coaches in one calender year.

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#219 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 08:21AM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

to be fair the first media guy who starts going after management the way we, the fans, want them to will be blackballed faster than feaster getting in line at a buffet.

would you go to your place of work, walk into the bosses office and rip him for the job he is doing? knowing full well that your chances of keeping your job would be slim?

the fans need to start backing up the tough talk with their wallets before anything changes. going after media for not asking tough questions, while valid, solves nothing.

I disagree completely.

The media - save for a select few - are NOT employees of Daryl Katz. That they pussyfoot around the issues in order to curry favor/get access is a black mark against them.

No doubt being a sports journo in a small market like EDM and calling it how one sees it can be risky - certainly Katz and co have the ability to put pressure on you and your employer. But that is no excuse to ditch ones ethics and mute ones critiques.

Some journos have criticized ownership - especially of late: rishaug and brownlee to name two.

An interesting thing happens when you are a journo who calls it as one sees it:

You get read/listened too.

And that is the path to success in that industry.

In time perhaps we will look back on this and see it as a sort of maturation of the Edmonton sports media - the period in which they became independent and no longer a bunch of backwater lackeys.

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#220 Loyal Oil
November 13 2013, 08:29AM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

to be fair the first media guy who starts going after management the way we, the fans, want them to will be blackballed faster than feaster getting in line at a buffet.

would you go to your place of work, walk into the bosses office and rip him for the job he is doing? knowing full well that your chances of keeping your job would be slim?

the fans need to start backing up the tough talk with their wallets before anything changes. going after media for not asking tough questions, while valid, solves nothing.

Are you actually suggesting that Lowe gives Stauffer special buffet privileges? Wow, I'm shocked! I agree with your point but it make me sick that the media guys will rip apart this barely 20 year old kid who has fully embraced this city but won't touch the 'adults' at the top who are responsible for this mess. It would be awesome I there was a courageous media voice that stepped out from the crowd.

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#221 Taylor Gang
November 13 2013, 08:30AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

I disagree completely.

The media - save for a select few - are NOT employees of Daryl Katz. That they pussyfoot around the issues in order to curry favor/get access is a black mark against them.

No doubt being a sports journo in a small market like EDM and calling it how one sees it can be risky - certainly Katz and co have the ability to put pressure on you and your employer. But that is no excuse to ditch ones ethics and mute ones critiques.

Some journos have criticized ownership - especially of late: rishaug and brownlee to name two.

An interesting thing happens when you are a journo who calls it as one sees it:

You get read/listened too.

And that is the path to success in that industry.

In time perhaps we will look back on this and see it as a sort of maturation of the Edmonton sports media - the period in which they became independent and no longer a bunch of backwater lackeys.

Rishaug is probably the only media man with the backing that wouldn't get him in hot water with ownership. It's nice to hear him calling out the ill advised decisions of Katz and Co.

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#222 Smokey
November 13 2013, 08:45AM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

to be fair the first media guy who starts going after management the way we, the fans, want them to will be blackballed faster than feaster getting in line at a buffet.

would you go to your place of work, walk into the bosses office and rip him for the job he is doing? knowing full well that your chances of keeping your job would be slim?

the fans need to start backing up the tough talk with their wallets before anything changes. going after media for not asking tough questions, while valid, solves nothing.

I don't think we will see fans not support the team. Team just has to turn it around for 3 games and people will go watch. I watched the game where the Oilers stopped their 16 game loosing streak in 2010 against Carolina. There was a full house there for that night and reminded me fans here are loyal and world class. There are only probably 6-8 teams in the NHL that could withstand continually loosing. I don't think fans should stop going.

I guess for me that's why I wish our media would go after Lowe and MacT. When Spector went after ol' Sixrings this spring it was awesome that a guy with clout finally stepped over the line and asked questions no one else would. These media guys read these blogs, know the general mood of the fans, but do they ever ask the Oilers coaches or GM's the tough questions people want to hear. Hell, I would be going after Eakins for taking the donuts outta the media scrum, I'd make him pay.

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#223 camdog
November 13 2013, 08:51AM
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@sizzay

Another intersting stat is that Ryan Smyth has 3 even strength points and Yaks 2 to start the season, and Smyth has even less ice time.

The reality is this team has lost games trying to give him minutes. He can't play with Gags because Gags is too bad defensively, he can't play with RNH because he can't handle playing agiaint the other teams top d-man.

This leaves the third line and third line minutes and if he can't be happy with that there really isn't a spot in the NHL for him, because on any team in the NHL right now he's a 3rd liner, playing 3rd line minutes. He will improve dramatically playing against the other teams 3rd pairing d-man,second tier forwards and with spot powerplay action. Problems is I don't think he is smart enough to realize this.

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#224 Taylor Gang
November 13 2013, 09:08AM
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jr_christ wrote:

Sure he should bench Yak. He'll just want out of Edmonton. That's the kind of win-win you are looking for though?

Does he have a sense of entitlement? Of course he does... he was picked 1st overall. At least he doesn't through temper tantrums like Hall does on the ice. That's just pathetic.

And whining to the media isn't pathetic? I'll take the tantrums on the ice any day, at least it isn't a sideshow distraction...

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#225 pkam
November 13 2013, 09:10AM
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While some fans here are bashing the coach and defending Yak, let's look at what happen to this year 1st overall Nathan Mackinnon.

Mackinnon also played 17 games averages about 15 minutes (14:55 from NHL.com) per game mostly on the 3rd line. He has 11 pts and +6. 3 of those 17 games he got less than 11 minutes. Other than the ppg and +/-, all other stats are very similar.

He ties at 5th in scoring but 10th in ice time amongst all forwards. Yak is 9th in scoring and 9th in ice time amongst all Oilers forwards.

Who do you think deserve more ice time? Did we hear Mackinnon complain about lack of ice time?

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#226 madjam
November 13 2013, 09:15AM
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IN A NUTSHELL :Forwards taking the fall for an understaffed goalie and defensive spending . That's a managerial oversite of which the forwards are being unjustly brutalized for . Fix the backend and just watch how fast these kids will progress .

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#227 D-Unit
November 13 2013, 09:28AM
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@j

Cause in the system the Oilers never had enough Soft D-men? College does not equal NHL. AHL Does not equal NHL. Oilers scouting is pretty terrible, but when you pick #1 3 years in a row, you don't really need to work on it. Agree the Oil need veteran leadership. As well, Advertisements are very often misleading...as I believe is the case here.

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#228 2004Z06
November 13 2013, 09:34AM
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Harlie wrote:

The moran who put a C on him before he earned it.

The "moran"? How ironic. Name one player on the Oilers that has more playoff experience than Ference? Exactly! Three cup final appearances in his career and one cup won.

He is the only player that has "earned it" Or were you expecting to give it to one of these overpaid, entitled, coach killer brats that throw tantrums, chirp the refs and haven't earned a damn thing including their paycheck?

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#229 pkam
November 13 2013, 10:17AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Fair point, but that is not what Eakins was preaching at the beginning of the year when he made his comment.

Accountability for effort, and playing on both sides of the puck.

I will give Hall and RNH credit for at least getting on their horse to get back to help defend.

Can Eakins bench the whole team, or even half the team? Only if he can and he didn't then your argument is valid.

Everyone is jumping on Eakins regarding Gagner. Gagner only played 6 games so far and with a broken jaw. Yak at least got 17 minutes average for 13 games before his ice time was cut. How is Eakins not fair to Yak?

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#230 camdog
November 13 2013, 10:49AM
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pkam wrote:

Can Eakins bench the whole team, or even half the team? Only if he can and he didn't then your argument is valid.

Everyone is jumping on Eakins regarding Gagner. Gagner only played 6 games so far and with a broken jaw. Yak at least got 17 minutes average for 13 games before his ice time was cut. How is Eakins not fair to Yak?

Sam is a veteran of 420 NHL games. How how many more seasons do we give him before we know what we got?

I guess Mact has promised him that he wouldn't trade him this season and I think the no trade clause kicks in for next season. So I guess that's 2 more years?

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#231 WinterNightSky
November 13 2013, 12:25AM
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I'll defend Eakins for his forwards on the PK. Who did you want him to use? Look at our roster and tell me who the penalty killers are.

The old penalty killers were Horcoff, Jones, Belanger, Smyth, and occasionally Petrell and Lander. One was traded, two were sent down to start the season, one wasn't re-signed, one was bought out instead of Ben Eager, and one has been injured for a fair portion of the season.

We are playing our best penalty killers. Whose fault is that?

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#232 BleedOil4Life
November 13 2013, 01:20AM
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@Loyal Oil

who said anything about his religion?? NO ONE!

this kid was not forced to answer these questions...he gave the answers he wanted to give. he is pissed off and frustrated that we have 4 wins and he has not been given ice time.

the problem is that he also said earlier this year he has played the game a certain way which is offence first and he doesnt wanna change that.

he needs to realize to succeed in the nhl you need to play a two way game.

he could have went to the coaches...which he didnt...he could have went to the management...which he didnt...he went to the media so he was asked questions.

he needs to man up take the mins he is given and just play the game better.

plain and simple

and if he wants out after one year while guys like hall eberle hemsky rnh gagner smyth jones all want to see it through...then dont let the door hit you on the way out.

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#233 Larry
November 13 2013, 06:50AM
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DrunkGuyTy wrote:

A couple things: 1. This 20 year old is being guided through this by his agent who, IMO, is doing him a disservice by taking this public. This is on Larionov, not Yak. 2. Do you think there was any way in helll he was going to be able to get out of the rink yesterday without having to face the gossip girls with their microphones?

I yearn for the good ol' days when you cheered for your team and were loyal to the players because they were part of that team. Now you have too many jock- sniffing media members trying to create stories and blow them all out proportion for blog hits. Unfortunately, there is a new generation of fans who know no different and are unable to read between the lines on the script of these soap operas.

...and the pussification continues. As someone with a set of balls, I don't give a sh!t how these players, coaches, and fans "feel" about things. Talk about wins, losses, goals and assists. It is a good thing to be frustrated and pissed off with losing. Let the animal instinct run its course. Why do we need hear about it?

So why read the article? Try finding anything about the team where this situation isn't front and centre.

What he said! P.S. I didn't read the article cause I don't give a f@&k...

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#234 sizzay
November 13 2013, 08:17AM
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Interesting stat on NHL.com

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20142EDMSASALL&sort=giveaways&viewName=rtssPlayerStats

Look at where Yak is on giveaways. Granted one or two may have been bad ones.

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#235 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 08:27AM
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Truth wrote:

This sours me on Yak. You're 20 years old, the worst plus minus in the league, and are clearly no better than two other players that play your position at this time. Be better than at least one of them in all areas of the ice and your ice time will go up. Whining to the media about it does not make you a better player. If I was Ference I would sit down with him and tell him how life works, maybe tell him it is a team decision that he sits the next game or two until he realizes it is a team sport and the coach decides how to utilize each player to give the team the best chance to win.

On the other side of it, Eakins is clearly a hard ass and his style of coaching is not what Yakupov is used to. In the preseason I remember Eakins commenting on how he has to get to know each individual to get an idea on what makes each player tick. Obviously his approach with Yak is not working. Yak's antics cannot do anything but worsen his relationship with his coach. I see Yak or Eakins gone prior to the start of next season, and I bet MacT doesn't want to fire 2 coaches in one calender year.

Someone should do a dissection of the promises made by Eakins in that early presser comparing what he said with the results on the ice. I'm pretty sure it would be a damning indictment of him as a coach.

And no doubt at the time of that presser it was Music to the ears of ON.

And MacT.

Perhaps he was sold on Eakins presentation - having never watched a single game of Eakins work in the AHL.

There is a difference between Bold and rash.

It seems to me that MacT has conflated the two.

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#236 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 08:32AM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Rishaug is probably the only media man with the backing that wouldn't get him in hot water with ownership. It's nice to hear him calling out the ill advised decisions of Katz and Co.

I would put Spector in the same group although I'm not sure if he's still part of the Edmonton sports media group.

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#237 jr_christ
November 13 2013, 08:55AM
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Bob Stauffer sent a tweet somewhere around games 5-7 saying something to the effect of that if we are at the bottom after game 20 then there is reason for fans to legitimately get upset with the Oilers.

Now he is tweeting garbage like "the team is getting better. Let's compare to some stats from last year like shot differential and face off percentage". How many points do we get for shot differential and face off percentage? Yes these are baby steps in the right direction... but is the the kind of progress you were expecting 4 years into the rebuild??

Are you serious right now? We've waited 8 damn years for a return to the post season and you have the audacity to insult us with BS stats like that?

I don't want to lose any of our key players like Hall, Eberle, RNH, Schultz or Yakupov but this team isn't good. We are getting schooled game in and game out and it's the 10 minutes of skilled hockey we play that even keeps us remotely in any of the games we play.

4 (or 5) wins in the first 20 games played should be a wake up call. 25% of the season will be played and we are on pace for 16-20 wins this season.

Let's just sit back and keep watching this derained train continue it's path of destruction. After all, according to Stauffer we are a better team this year.

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#238 pkam
November 13 2013, 08:57AM
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@2004Z06

Hall, Eberle, etc put up points, does Yak? If you are a liability in defense and not an asset in offense, should the coach bench those who at least contribute in offense to give you the ice time you want?

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#239 Taylor Gang
November 13 2013, 09:07AM
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Everyone needs to stop with the "Yak gets ripped but the other kids don't". Sure, the kids make mistakes, but they're getting points. Bench them? Bench the only people on our team who can score?! Look at the stats sheet! Why would you bench our top 3 scorers, no matter how bad they're giving up the puck? Yakupov makes the same mistakes, but I can count the amount of points he has on one hand. So sure it's not completely justified but Eakins does have a point.

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#240 Dave
November 13 2013, 09:25AM
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DSF wrote:

Staples looks at who is making mistakes while playing defense:

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/11/13/who-is-failing-on-defence-for-the-oilers-yakupov-not-the-only-one/

If one or two players are making mistakes then those players should be blamed but if most if not all the players are making mistakes I would blame the one coach who is new. Eakins.

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#241 2004Z06
November 13 2013, 09:43AM
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@pkam

Fair point, but that is not what Eakins was preaching at the beginning of the year when he made his comment.

Accountability for effort, and playing on both sides of the puck.

I will give Hall and RNH credit for at least getting on their horse to get back to help defend.

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#242 pkam
November 13 2013, 09:50AM
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madjam wrote:

PROBLEM FOUND ? Onus on MacT. to correct it before things get further out of hand .

MANAGING THE CAP - Taken from coppernblue article by gew_rocks . Defence - first pairing usually has 10% minimum with average being $15% , max.17% - we are at $8% only . That's a huge problem with a bad defence to begin with .Ridding of Smid very questionable . Goalie is 6% minimum, Ave.8% , and max.11% . We are once again way under budget at 5% . Forwards we are okay except for being at max 15% third line .

As one can see , when you scrimpout on goalie and defence you put an inordinant amount of pressure on forwards to over compensate their offensive games to accommodate the two worst areas of our hockey club -goalie and defence . Results show just that do they not ? Ridding of Hemsky and Smtyh might help alleviate that problem before allowing our youth to flee . Seems like MacT. the bulk of the problems here believe it or not .

If salary is the problem, there is a simple solution. Petry and Schultz contracts are up this year. Just sign them to 7M and problem solved.

The Oilers management had been trying to land a top pairing D for a couple of years. Rumors were Tambellini approached the agent of Weber and Suter and neither of them were interested to come to Edmonton. And we all know Edmonton was on the list that JaBo will not go to.

Perhaps you can force another GM and top pairing to come to Edmonton. I am sure MacT will pay fair market salary or even overpay to sign one.

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#243 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 09:59AM
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Grant wrote:

Gord you talk tough on here, but yesterday you hung up on Gregor show and didn't call back in. Scared to have someone debate your thoughts, or points that often are incorrect?

Easy to say ask people to talk tough, but when you had the chance you hung up.

Thank you for this.

I got cut off/the cell dropped out. I have no idea when it happened during my call as I have not had a chance to listen to the podcast.

I thought I made excellent points throughout - but I may have been talking to a dead line for 30 seconds or more.

I will call in again when I get the time - maybe today.

Ps- thanks for listening!!

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#244 Burp Snart
November 13 2013, 10:12AM
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Yakupov and Larionov should go phuckov and pissov...

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#245 2004Z06
November 13 2013, 11:16AM
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** wrote:

Terry Jones: "It’s almost impossible to not interpret this as a player with the worst plus-minus in the NHL — whose defensive play is one of the biggest reasons the team is off to such a shameful start — showing an almost unprecedented sense of entitlement."

Then the response from Tyler Dellow at mc79hockey dot com:

"It turns out you can check this in like three minutes. Overall, the Oilers are 30th in 5v5 GA/60. When Yakupov isn’t on the ice, they rise all the way up to 29th in the NHL. Just like the 1995 New Jersey Devils!

Also of note: when Sam Gagner’s on the ice at 5v5, the Oilers are allowing a smooth 5.77 GA/60 at 5v5. RNH is getting hammered to the tune of 4.28 5v5 GA/60. There are a lot of culprits here. Singling a guy out unfairly doesn’t really do much to build your case that he has a perverse case of entitlement."

Terry Jone's comment is just an example of the double standard and bias against non canadian players that some media have.

Great post!

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#246 camdog
November 13 2013, 11:28AM
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@**

Terry Jones is an old grump, he isn't somebody to use as an example for anything.

As to Yaks being singled out, well he singled himself out when he went to the media, this he did on his own.

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#247 Rob...
November 13 2013, 11:40AM
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camdog wrote:

Terry Jones is an old grump, he isn't somebody to use as an example for anything.

As to Yaks being singled out, well he singled himself out when he went to the media, this he did on his own.

So because he's an old grump he can't be criticized? Brownlee is criticized all the time...

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#248 rob
November 13 2013, 12:03PM
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Now that Yak has spoke out,how long before others start doing the same?I see bad things coming if Mact does not start doing something fast,everyone has been patient and now it is time for bold!

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#249 TKB2677
November 13 2013, 12:07PM
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Here is a question for anyone that likes to say "poor Yakupov, Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Schultz give the puck away and they aren't punished, why should he".

What is Yakupov doing to help the team win? You are correct when you say that Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Schultz are pretty bad in the give away department. However, they PRODUCE. Not only is Yakupov playing crap defense and giving the puck away, he isn't producing ANY offence.

If he was scoring goals and putting up points but still getting the same "treatment", then there is absolutely a case that he isn't getting the same rope as the fab 4. But he isn't scoring.

SO if he isn't scoring and a disaster in his own zone, what is he doing to help the team? NOTHING. So if he is doing nothing to help the team, why does he deserve more playing time?

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#250 Wohin gehst du?
November 13 2013, 02:27AM
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mlcselli wrote:

I know where I'd like to stick the other four. #firelowe

They are already there

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