YAKUPOV WANTS MORE ICETIME

Jason Gregor
November 12 2013 01:56PM

 

Nail Yakupov wants more icetime. He wants to help his teammates win. He also feels his head coach doesn't trust him. Yakupov spoke with the media after practice today, and it was clear he was frustrated. As he should be. Losing stinks, and I'd hope every Oiler is frustrated.

Yakupov is usually very quiet and reserved with the media, but today he spoke with conviction and passion.

He was asked about his agent's, Igor Larionov, comments about a possible trade.

"I know where he is coming from, we have to do something. I don't see any trust towards me now. I'm playing lower and lower minutes, and I just want to help my team win every game. I haven't had much chance to to that, and it pretty hard to watch the game from the bench when my teammates are fighting for puck and points, because I know I can do the same thing.

"I don't want to say anything bad, but I just want to say that I want to be here. I love the city. I'd love to play with these players. We have a great staff and the atmosphere in games is great. I want to be part of the Oilers," said Yakupov.

When asked how he felt he's played defensively he responded with this:

"I've played good. I've always played like that. I watch everyone play the same. I don't think that question is for me, it is for the coach. I play good," Yakupov said.

When asked if he asked his agent to go public he responded with a smile, "I don't know, that is a tough question. I can't say anything now. Maybe we will see if something changes in a couple of days."

TRADE

He was asked directly if he has asked for a trade.

"I wasn't asking for a trade. I don't want to say anything bad, but I heard something (trade rumour) in the summer, something at the start of the season and then two weeks ago, but we'll see...who knows. I just want to play. I don't want to play nine or five minutes. I think I can play more and I think I can help my teammates to get points. We need points.

"I'm 20 years old and I think this is a  very important year for me learning to play hockey. Sometimes players who are sitting a lot when they are 19 or 20 years old they stop playing hockey. I just want to play. We will see if that ( lack of icetime) is going to be more and more, and if not we will have to figure out something," said Yakupov.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 

Yakupov is clearly frustrated. He wants to play more, and you can't blame him for that. Was this the best way to go about it? Probably not, but he isn't the first professional player to go public with his frustrations about a lack of playing time.

When Eakins spoke after Yakupov he wasn't upset at all. He said he understood Yakupov's frustration, but he said he has seen Yakupov working hard to improve his game. He also said that he won't change how he coaches because Yakupov went public with his frustrations.

The most interesting thing to me was when Yakupov said he heard trade rumours in the summer. I can't recall any rumours then, but maybe the Oilers were shopping him. 

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Igor Larionov meets with Craig MacTavish later this week. 

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#151 **
November 12 2013, 11:12PM
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pkam wrote:

I said the ice time of his first 13 game average 17 minutes and over 17 games average 15 minutes.

Using the ice time you provided, if you add the ice time of his first 13 games, it totals 217:24, average 16:43. If you add all 17 games, it totals 262:59, average 15:28.

So where is it out of context?

Hall, Eberle and Nuge got more minutes in their rookie season because the Oilers were so bad those years that they were our best players even they were rookies. Even when they don't perform, there is no quality players to compete the ice time with them.

Now Eberle, Hall, RNH, Perron are eating the big minutes. If Yak doesn't perform, then the other kids will get more minutes.

I didn't Acrobello to Yak. I just point out that Acrobello has to earn his ice time. Other than Gagner so far, nobody is getting free ice time.

Do I think Gagner should get the free pass? No. I think he should be in the IR. I can't remember which game but I remember his jaw hurt after taking a big hit to his shoulder. I don't think he is 100% so I don't understand why not only they play him, but play him a lot of tough minutes.

I took the ice time from the NHL site. I combined the numbers from this season and last season.I didn't just add them, you have to multiply the proportion of games from each season by the total number of games (65) and then multiply that by each average ice time provided by the NHL website. Your numbers are out of context because you are averaging this season. It is like saying someone is not starving to death because he has eaten an average of 500 grams of beef over 10 days, when the reality is that person ate 2 kgs of beef the first five days and then nothing on the last 5.

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#152 WinterNightSky
November 13 2013, 12:25AM
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I'll defend Eakins for his forwards on the PK. Who did you want him to use? Look at our roster and tell me who the penalty killers are.

The old penalty killers were Horcoff, Jones, Belanger, Smyth, and occasionally Petrell and Lander. One was traded, two were sent down to start the season, one wasn't re-signed, one was bought out instead of Ben Eager, and one has been injured for a fair portion of the season.

We are playing our best penalty killers. Whose fault is that?

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#153 Oilcruzer
November 13 2013, 05:02AM
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Bad idea here.

Play him more and coach risks losing cred.

If you don't play him more.... Well...

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#154 jr_christ
November 13 2013, 08:40AM
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It's not a sense of entitlement. It's the fact that he is one of many that struggle defensively but the coach seems to only bench him.

Was Yak caught standing still on a couple goals this year? You bet he was. However, I seem to remember TWO passes Hall made directly to the other team that lead to GWG. How many games was Hall benched for that?

I remember Hemsky turning the puck over to Stamkos the other day... how many games was he benched for that?

Messages are only being sent to players that appear to speak their mind. I have a feeling this locker room is more screwed up than in was in 2008-2009...

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#155 TKB2677
November 13 2013, 08:40AM
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What ever happened to EARNING your ice time? Is that not applicable anymore in the NHL according to Yakupov?

He's a league worst -14. He has 2 goals, 4 points in 17 games. He is an offensive player so when he isn't scoring, he doesn't do much else. I don't think anyone expects Yakupov to compete for the Selke but he could at least not be a complete train wreck in his own zone.

When the Yak booster club come out and bring up that Hall, Nuge, Eberle all are giving the puck and poor Yak is being singled out, I always laugh. They are right, those 3 need to be much better with the puck but here's the kicker. THEY ARE PRODUCING!! Eberle - 15 pts Nuge - 13 pts Hall - 12 pts

So what has he done to earn anymore ice time. If he was scoring you could cover your eyes a bite and let him make mistakes because he still scores. He's not scoring. SO not only is he terrible defensively and from his comments thinks he's doing a good job, he isn't scoring at all to at least make up for his defensively lapses.

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#156 2004Z06
November 13 2013, 08:43AM
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I think the biggest issue with this situation is Yak is not on a level playing field here. Taylor Hall, RNH, Eberle, Gagner, J Schultz have all been turnover machines this year. They are all amongst the worst in the league +/- yet not one of them has been sat. Eakins preached accountability regardless of age or money or draft order.

All are accountable for this debacle, not just Yak.

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#157 jr_christ
November 13 2013, 09:01AM
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pkam wrote:

Hall, Eberle, etc put up points, does Yak? If you are a liability in defense and not an asset in offense, should the coach bench those who at least contribute in offense to give you the ice time you want?

Sure he should bench Yak. He'll just want out of Edmonton. That's the kind of win-win you are looking for though?

Does he have a sense of entitlement? Of course he does... he was picked 1st overall. At least he doesn't through temper tantrums like Hall does on the ice. That's just pathetic.

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#158 Taylor Gang
November 13 2013, 09:08AM
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jr_christ wrote:

Sure he should bench Yak. He'll just want out of Edmonton. That's the kind of win-win you are looking for though?

Does he have a sense of entitlement? Of course he does... he was picked 1st overall. At least he doesn't through temper tantrums like Hall does on the ice. That's just pathetic.

And whining to the media isn't pathetic? I'll take the tantrums on the ice any day, at least it isn't a sideshow distraction...

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#159 camdog
November 13 2013, 11:28AM
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@**

Terry Jones is an old grump, he isn't somebody to use as an example for anything.

As to Yaks being singled out, well he singled himself out when he went to the media, this he did on his own.

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#160 pkam
November 13 2013, 01:05PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

My argument is valid based on what this coach was preaching earlier this year.

"Can the coach bench the whole team, or even half the team?"

Really? I need to explain how this works?

The Oilers have played 19 games this year. Yak was benched for 2, Smyth for 1.

That leaves 16 other opportunities to sit a player. None of those opportunities were utilized.

Gagner is a horrible centerman, always has been. His plus/minus, face off % , fore-checking ability and defensive play are atrocious and not improving over the last 6 years.

I like his effort and he certainly has some offensive upside, but he is and always has been better off on the wing. Injury or no injury.

If you think Eakins should bench everyone not defensively responsible enough, that is your opinion. I do not agree for 2 reasons.

First, if you bench one player every game, pretty soon benching doesn't send the message anymore and you lose one of your option to motivate or discipline your player.

Second, you don't bench your top point producers unless he is a real defensive disaster. Benching your top point producers send a message to the whole team that I don't care if you can help the team win, if you are not doing what I ask of you, you are not playing for me. I think this is referred to as overcoaching.

If you think Gagner is horrible centerman and Eakins should figure that out after 6 games. I don't know why 4 coaches, some with extensive NHL experience, haven't and some of them are even after over an NHL season. I just know that I am not more knowledgeable than any of these 5 coaches.

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#161 Rama Lama
November 12 2013, 02:25PM
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dmac4532 wrote:

He is crazy if he thinks he has been playing well. He turns the puck over, flys the d zone with out so much as looking @ Ovi in the slot. This kid needs at least half a season in okc .Not saying he is the only young player that needs to learn to play both sides of the puck but with out a doubt the most glaring example.

I don't think that the Oilers really have any plus+ players on the team right now..........exactly who should he pattern his game after?

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#162 Smokey
November 12 2013, 02:50PM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

Good thing we didn't flush away that 1st overall pick. Who needs a good teammate when you can have the Russian Rocket pt. 2. Does this further diminish his trade value?

His trade value is the same...He's a 20 year old potential sniper...This is what game 65 for him.

Remember Jumpin Jo. Ya he sucked for 2 years.

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#163 OilCanFan
November 12 2013, 03:02PM
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Having some issues with their site I think...

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#164 Spoils
November 12 2013, 03:31PM
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How many people in the NHL can wire a one timer like he did against the Hawks.

I love how he sits there with his stick cocked. Sega 94 style we should be trying to get him 5-10 shots a game.

Bad tactics whether it is him or Igor, but mgt needs to be the adults in the room and finesse some way to make sure this situation doesn't get out of control (for Nail and the team).

It is their job to get the best out of their investment in Nail.

Nothing would be worse than trading him and having him become a 30-50 goal scorer.

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#165 Hockey Problems
November 12 2013, 03:42PM
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We got some serious hockey problems goin on. This is going to be an expensive week at the beer store.

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#166 ReJ
November 12 2013, 03:47PM
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LOOOOUUDDD NOISES!

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#167 mayorblaine
November 12 2013, 03:59PM
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Mikey wrote:

Hemsky might make the team. Same goes for belov, but probably not. Hell even Bryz.... haha just kidding.

Maybe this was the oilers plan all along. The ole rope a dope. And after the Olympic break they will all be rested up and ready to make the playoffs.

best worst plan ever :)

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#168 Johnnydapunk
November 12 2013, 04:07PM
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I'm guessing there is more behind the scenes than we know. The only thing that I think this may have done was possibly expose a little bit of the frustration that there may be in the dressing room currently. I would be interested in anything Smid would have to say as he would definitely be someone who would know what was really happening in the dressing room and I don't think he would be too worried about burning a bridge or two.

All that being said, I don't think doing this would benefit Yak in the long run in any way. Teams aren't afraid to dump "difficult" players, and not saying he is difficult, but having your agent make public comments like he has and squirming through the media scrum today does not look terribly good on his part. It may be frustration boiling over, but things like this are always best dealt with behind closed doors.

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#169 Mikey
November 12 2013, 05:03PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Ah, someone's paying attention. I'm not saying he made fewer mistakes last season compared to this one. I was just trying to get across the fact that Krueger and his staff kept it in the dressing room. Not out in the open and creating a toxic environment like Eakins has done. That finger pointing is squarely on our all hat, no cattle coach. Even though warranted, we've never seen that finger pointed in the direction of Hallsy or Eberle, or even Gags these last half dozen games.

Yakupov is a 20 yr old kid. The Oilers organization as a whole, are handling things much like a beginner as well. Good on Yakupov for further embarrassing this organization. As if 6 rings, as well as the on ice play hasn't done a bang up job on that already. The Oilers still have 63 out of 82 remaining nothing games to teach him how to be better without the puck. Use this downtime wisely.

This is Kevin Lowes bed. He made it, let him sleep in it. These are just some of those shippy little details organizations like the Oilers have to go through before changes/realization sets in. What goes around, comes around (Souray) for Lowe and company.

I am 100% certain, Yakapov spoke to the media first....

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#170 DevoKnows
November 12 2013, 05:24PM
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Fedun sent down, Potter brought up!! Another brutal decision!!!

"GONGSHOW"

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#171 BleedOil4Life
November 12 2013, 05:26PM
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Yak needs to take the frustration he had in Chicago and keep it going. Smash people Get out there and at like you are only getting 10 mins a night but want more Prove you want it because if you do...this team will win more games

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#172 DevoKnows
November 12 2013, 05:37PM
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Check this game winner out in OKC last night!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwBz0BpOrAY&sns=em

SWEET!!!!

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#173 Oiler Al
November 12 2013, 05:41PM
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"he said", she said", etc, this is really getting to be an embarrassing side show for the organization. Losing, indifferent play, blender linmates, more airmiles to OKC than needed.. Who the .....k is running his Gong Show? The JOKE OF THE NHL!!!! Its a shame getting all those lotto drafts and this is where it ends up.

Edmonton media must fear losing the free lunch... call like it is.... LOWE!! It starts from the top... Cant count Katz he;s been hiding under a rock all his life.

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#174 Hockey fan 1976
November 12 2013, 07:05PM
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You can slice it any way you want, Dallas Eakins talks a great game but that whole bs of "accountability" "compete" and yet not practising what he preaches is what has gotten this room in trouble. Is Managenemt 101. The moment you lack consistency in how you treat everyone is the moment you lose respect from your staff (team). Yuk sees how other so called vets crapping the bed as bad as he's and yet, they don't get benched or ice time hasn't suffered. DE is the problem and the moment McT admits he made a mistake, the sooner this team gets on track.

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#175 DSF
November 12 2013, 07:08PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Does this mean I'm not the only guy who's not a fan of Schultz. I can't believe this guy was so hyped

That's what it would mean.

Schultz is a smaller, skinnier version of Jack Johnson.

Here's why Lombardi got rid of him:

http://frozenroyalty.net/2010/01/20/dean-lombardi-jack-johnson-is-learning-his-craft-belatedly/

Some lessons there for both Schultz and Yakupov.

But what does Lombardi know? 😷

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#176 Cold Hard Truth
November 12 2013, 07:15PM
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The fans need to start being more vocal about demanding Lowe's resignation. MacTavish's too, since he only became GM not out of merit, but out of patronage. And come to think of it, fire Eakins too, since hiring a him was the mistake of a GM who did not deserve to make that decision in the first place.

Also, the journalists need to grow a pair of balls and start calling a spade a spade. I`m tired of reading palliative pieces from journalists who skirt around the issues so they don`t lose their access to hot scoops.

Next game fans should start chanting `fire Lowe,` or stage a collective walk-out.

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#177 DSF
November 12 2013, 07:31PM
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Pouzar99 wrote:

Calm down folks. Everybody involved has to take a deep breath on this ones. The kid is frustrated and it might be best for everyone that he blew off some steam. Yes, his defensive play has been unacceptable, but he has a lot of company, especially Justin Schultz, as DSF correctly points out.

If Yak has to earn his ice time What about Gagner, Hall, Hemsky and Justin Schultz? Hall's offensive contribution helps obviously, but he is still a major offender defensively. Nuge and Arcobello bust their butts in both ends, why can't the other top six players. Eberle and Perron are okay, but could also play better on the defensive end.

Last season they worked hard with Yak and he got to be a far more complete player as the year went along. Where has all that gone?

I think it is pretty obvious by this point that Eakins isn't exactly a strategic genius. My cat could pick better line combinations and his defensive system design has been a series of busts. Putting Gagner at center for his first game back and matching him up against the red hot Kessel line was a very predictable shocker, just to name one example.

Remember one more thing about Yak. He is a Russian and they have a hockey league. If things become intolerable here he has an easy option. He is going to have to dig down and play a far more complete game, but if he can sit and watch or be shifted down to the 4th line so can others. How about a concession which is just common sense anyway. Put Yak on the first PP unit. He's got the best shot on the team by a mile and every one else on the unit is a pass first guy. Let that cannon rip. And give him some extra shifts on the top three lines if you play on the 4th. its not like we have anything to lose. Except a proud, gifted but flawed young player who will be a star somewhere eventually.

Best post of the thread...by a mile.

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#178 6 ring circus
November 12 2013, 07:51PM
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Maybe Katz should be paid a visit and made an offer he can't refuse.It's time he fire's Lowe or else ...

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#179 Quintana
November 12 2013, 08:47PM
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** wrote:

Facts:

Yakupov is not a very good defensive player. Yakupov was drafted for being an exceptional offensive player.

EAkins said in the summer he would get to know his players by meeting one on one, having water cooler conversations, things like that. Eakins said today that he hasn't spoken with Yakupov one on one about his lack of ice time or his level of trust in him.

Eakins said in the summer it would not matter contract status, or age, everyone would be accountable. Eakins has 7 players at the bottom of the plus/minus stats. Yaks with -14, Hemsky and Nuge with -12, Petry -11, Schultz -10, Gagner -9. Who is the only player being sent to the fourth line and being scratched not once but twice and getting his ice time greatly diminished?: Yakupov.

Steven Stamkos stats for his first season (79 games): 11:58 average ice time per game 23G, 23A, 46 points, plus/minus -13 (keep in mind he is a center with more defensive responsibility)

Nail Yakupov's stats for his first combined 65 games: 12:34 average ice time per game 19G, 16A, 35 points, plus/minus -18 ( this is the combined total of two seasons, with a long break in the summer that could be argued impacted the continuity of Yakupov's development, given how he closed last season, he might have had more points by this time had he played those 65 games continuously. )

Anyone who reads this please tell me:

A) if Yakupov is being given fair treatment, given how long a leash Ebs Hall Nuge Gagner and Hemsky have had on season's past ( I know it is a different coach but he should be aware of these things).

B) If Yakupov's numbers compared to another 1st overall who turned out to be an elite player are that far off course to be trying to run the guy out of town.

Ps: I don't like the plus/minus stat, I think it is extremely flawed, but I have seen it on Edmonton media as an indictment of Yakupov so that is why I included it.

PPS: Jussi JOkinen was traded mid season to make room for Stamkos to play more minutes because that management believed Stamkos was the future even though Jokinen was having a great season and wanted to put him in a legitimate position to succeed.

This.

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#180 Crimson steel
November 12 2013, 09:35PM
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FireKLowe wrote:

They fcuked up Shremp, Omark, Paajarvi, and now Yakapov! Good job Oiler management!

So the oil screwed up on schemp! He could not crack the other 2 NHL teams he played for either! Jury is still out on omark and check paajarvi's stats so far this season! The oil have screwed the hooch on lots of deals but not these ones!

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#181 pkam
November 12 2013, 09:51PM
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Randaman wrote:

Eberle ha played on the perimeter all year with out a hit thrown and has gotten his points. Does that make him better than Yak that throws checks and stands up for himself like in the Chicago game? Yes & no. Hall & Nugr are the stars of this group and Yak should be on their wing so he can show what he can do with first line talent and ice time. Third line minutes with Hemsky won't help as has been proven thus far this season. Hall, Ebs &Nuge were given that opportunity. Why not try it and see. Gags, Ebs & Perron is a quality mix for a second line. Gordon, Hemsky & Smyth for a third. Arcabello, Jonseeu & Jones/gazdic for a fourth. Problem solved. What is there to lose at this point. Remember the chemistry Hall & Yak developed late last season??

Eberle has 11 hits 15 pts and -3 in 19 games.

Yak has 14 hits 4 pts and -14 in 17 games.

So we should play Yak in the 1st line?

I thought we all agree that nobody should get a free pass, whether you are veteran or rookie, 1st overall or undrafted, everyone has to earn their ice time?

Yak has more ice time than Acrobello in their first 13 games. Acrobello has more point than Yak, better +/-, and more hits than Yak. What has Yak done to earn more ice time than Acrobello?

So far this season 2 players, Gagner and Yak, get free passes. The only difference is Yak's free pass was taken away after 13 games, and Gagner is still enjoying his free pass after 6 games. Will the same happen to Gagner, we will see after 13 games.

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#182 Randaman
November 12 2013, 10:11PM
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pkam wrote:

Eberle has 11 hits 15 pts and -3 in 19 games.

Yak has 14 hits 4 pts and -14 in 17 games.

So we should play Yak in the 1st line?

I thought we all agree that nobody should get a free pass, whether you are veteran or rookie, 1st overall or undrafted, everyone has to earn their ice time?

Yak has more ice time than Acrobello in their first 13 games. Acrobello has more point than Yak, better +/-, and more hits than Yak. What has Yak done to earn more ice time than Acrobello?

So far this season 2 players, Gagner and Yak, get free passes. The only difference is Yak's free pass was taken away after 13 games, and Gagner is still enjoying his free pass after 6 games. Will the same happen to Gagner, we will see after 13 games.

I was merely pointing out that Eberle doesn't suffer the wrath of the coach like Yak does. Plus/minus is a useless stat for young players on a poor team. A lot of other factors are included in those stats. When Yak hits you hear it. When Eberle hits it's like a tree falling in the Forrest. Lots of things are done to get players going or out of a slump. Hall is the right medicine for Yak I believe. Like any combination is working right now anyway. First, second, third & fourth all SUCK. Check the standings

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#183 Devolution
November 12 2013, 10:49PM
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I can understand why Yakupov might complain about his ice time. He is young, frustrated and wants to play.

What I don't understand is the public statement by Larionov. This is a man who has been around and should know how things work.

He must know that that statement would make things worse for everyone involved and yet he still said it. He is paid for helping careers, not hurting them.

Puzzling.

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#184 Sammer003
November 12 2013, 11:43PM
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Harry wrote:

Im no MacT lover but I think a GM should be given more than 7 months to fix a roster

KLowe has had more time than his Stanley Cup rings to turn it around. It's top down, and KLowe managed to bring the team Lower and Lower.

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#185 pkam
November 13 2013, 12:43AM
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** wrote:

I took the ice time from the NHL site. I combined the numbers from this season and last season.I didn't just add them, you have to multiply the proportion of games from each season by the total number of games (65) and then multiply that by each average ice time provided by the NHL website. Your numbers are out of context because you are averaging this season. It is like saying someone is not starving to death because he has eaten an average of 500 grams of beef over 10 days, when the reality is that person ate 2 kgs of beef the first five days and then nothing on the last 5.

You're right, I am talking about his ice this season. Yak didn't complain his ice time last season. Did he?

The fact is his ice time has up this season until the last 4 games. He has about 17 minutes per game for 13 games and he put up 1 pt. Even Eakins cut his ice time in the last 4 games, his average ice time with Eakins is still over 15 minutes per game.

So the coach gave you 13 games at 17 minutes per game and you put up 1 pt, what is the coach going to say when the other players question why they put up more points and better +/- per 60 minutes were not given more ice time?

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#186 DrunkGuyTy
November 13 2013, 06:12AM
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A couple things: 1. This 20 year old is being guided through this by his agent who, IMO, is doing him a disservice by taking this public. This is on Larionov, not Yak. 2. Do you think there was any way in helll he was going to be able to get out of the rink yesterday without having to face the gossip girls with their microphones?

I yearn for the good ol' days when you cheered for your team and were loyal to the players because they were part of that team. Now you have too many jock- sniffing media members trying to create stories and blow them all out proportion for blog hits. Unfortunately, there is a new generation of fans who know no different and are unable to read between the lines on the script of these soap operas.

...and the pussification continues. As someone with a set of balls, I don't give a sh!t how these players, coaches, and fans "feel" about things. Talk about wins, losses, goals and assists. It is a good thing to be frustrated and pissed off with losing. Let the animal instinct run its course. Why do we need hear about it?

So why read the article? Try finding anything about the team where this situation isn't front and centre.

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#187 Larry
November 13 2013, 06:50AM
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DrunkGuyTy wrote:

A couple things: 1. This 20 year old is being guided through this by his agent who, IMO, is doing him a disservice by taking this public. This is on Larionov, not Yak. 2. Do you think there was any way in helll he was going to be able to get out of the rink yesterday without having to face the gossip girls with their microphones?

I yearn for the good ol' days when you cheered for your team and were loyal to the players because they were part of that team. Now you have too many jock- sniffing media members trying to create stories and blow them all out proportion for blog hits. Unfortunately, there is a new generation of fans who know no different and are unable to read between the lines on the script of these soap operas.

...and the pussification continues. As someone with a set of balls, I don't give a sh!t how these players, coaches, and fans "feel" about things. Talk about wins, losses, goals and assists. It is a good thing to be frustrated and pissed off with losing. Let the animal instinct run its course. Why do we need hear about it?

So why read the article? Try finding anything about the team where this situation isn't front and centre.

What he said! P.S. I didn't read the article cause I don't give a f@&k...

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#188 Grant
November 13 2013, 08:47AM
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@Serious Gord

Gord you talk tough on here, but yesterday you hung up on Gregor show and didn't call back in. Scared to have someone debate your thoughts, or points that often are incorrect?

Easy to say ask people to talk tough, but when you had the chance you hung up.

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#189 Wax Man Riley
November 13 2013, 08:48AM
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jr_christ wrote:

It's not a sense of entitlement. It's the fact that he is one of many that struggle defensively but the coach seems to only bench him.

Was Yak caught standing still on a couple goals this year? You bet he was. However, I seem to remember TWO passes Hall made directly to the other team that lead to GWG. How many games was Hall benched for that?

I remember Hemsky turning the puck over to Stamkos the other day... how many games was he benched for that?

Messages are only being sent to players that appear to speak their mind. I have a feeling this locker room is more screwed up than in was in 2008-2009...

Hall and Hemsky are proven NHL players, Yakupov is not. He has played very poorly, and in the last minute I'm putting Hall and Hemskyvon before Yak every day.

That's why his minutes were cut.

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#190 jr_christ
November 13 2013, 08:57AM
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@Wax Man Riley

Thanks Eakins...

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#191 Taylor Gang
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Everyone needs to stop with the "Yak gets ripped but the other kids don't". Sure, the kids make mistakes, but they're getting points. Bench them? Bench the only people on our team who can score?! Look at the stats sheet! Why would you bench our top 3 scorers, no matter how bad they're giving up the puck? Yakupov makes the same mistakes, but I can count the amount of points he has on one hand. So sure it's not completely justified but Eakins does have a point.

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#192 madjam
November 13 2013, 09:15AM
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IN A NUTSHELL :Forwards taking the fall for an understaffed goalie and defensive spending . That's a managerial oversite of which the forwards are being unjustly brutalized for . Fix the backend and just watch how fast these kids will progress .

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#193 Dave
November 13 2013, 09:25AM
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DSF wrote:

Staples looks at who is making mistakes while playing defense:

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/11/13/who-is-failing-on-defence-for-the-oilers-yakupov-not-the-only-one/

If one or two players are making mistakes then those players should be blamed but if most if not all the players are making mistakes I would blame the one coach who is new. Eakins.

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#194 2004Z06
November 13 2013, 09:34AM
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Harlie wrote:

The moran who put a C on him before he earned it.

The "moran"? How ironic. Name one player on the Oilers that has more playoff experience than Ference? Exactly! Three cup final appearances in his career and one cup won.

He is the only player that has "earned it" Or were you expecting to give it to one of these overpaid, entitled, coach killer brats that throw tantrums, chirp the refs and haven't earned a damn thing including their paycheck?

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#195 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 09:59AM
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Grant wrote:

Gord you talk tough on here, but yesterday you hung up on Gregor show and didn't call back in. Scared to have someone debate your thoughts, or points that often are incorrect?

Easy to say ask people to talk tough, but when you had the chance you hung up.

Thank you for this.

I got cut off/the cell dropped out. I have no idea when it happened during my call as I have not had a chance to listen to the podcast.

I thought I made excellent points throughout - but I may have been talking to a dead line for 30 seconds or more.

I will call in again when I get the time - maybe today.

Ps- thanks for listening!!

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#196 pkam
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2004Z06 wrote:

Fair point, but that is not what Eakins was preaching at the beginning of the year when he made his comment.

Accountability for effort, and playing on both sides of the puck.

I will give Hall and RNH credit for at least getting on their horse to get back to help defend.

Can Eakins bench the whole team, or even half the team? Only if he can and he didn't then your argument is valid.

Everyone is jumping on Eakins regarding Gagner. Gagner only played 6 games so far and with a broken jaw. Yak at least got 17 minutes average for 13 games before his ice time was cut. How is Eakins not fair to Yak?

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#197 **
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Terry Jones: "It’s almost impossible to not interpret this as a player with the worst plus-minus in the NHL — whose defensive play is one of the biggest reasons the team is off to such a shameful start — showing an almost unprecedented sense of entitlement."

Then the response from Tyler Dellow at mc79hockey dot com:

"It turns out you can check this in like three minutes. Overall, the Oilers are 30th in 5v5 GA/60. When Yakupov isn’t on the ice, they rise all the way up to 29th in the NHL. Just like the 1995 New Jersey Devils!

Also of note: when Sam Gagner’s on the ice at 5v5, the Oilers are allowing a smooth 5.77 GA/60 at 5v5. RNH is getting hammered to the tune of 4.28 5v5 GA/60. There are a lot of culprits here. Singling a guy out unfairly doesn’t really do much to build your case that he has a perverse case of entitlement."

Terry Jone's comment is just an example of the double standard and bias against non canadian players that some media have.

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#198 camdog
November 13 2013, 12:08PM
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Rob... wrote:

So because he's an old grump he can't be criticized? Brownlee is criticized all the time...

Terry Jones should be criticized every time he writes an article. However said Terry Jones is not representative of the mainstream sports media in this city, and should never be confused as such.

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#199 cpetruk
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He's right in that everyone is playing the same defensively as he is. I'd stop short of calling it "good".

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#200 camdog
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I think it says mixed messages when a veteran like Smid calls out players like Yakopov for not playing the system and then they quickly trade him. I guess Yaks thinks it worked for Smid so maybe it will work for him...

Although Smid wasn't really the best of d-man at least he knew his role and he did provide some much needed leadership on this team. THis team lacks leadership and Mact trades one of the leaders for magic beans. This doesn't make any sense at all to me!

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