GDB 20.0: HORCOFF RETURNS

Jason Gregor
November 13 2013 12:43PM

For the past five seasons, when things went wrong for the Oilers you could always fall back to one thing, "Blame Horcoff." It didn't matter what was ailing the Oilers it seemed it was always Horcoff's fault, mainly due to his $5.5 million cap it. If the Oilers top line wasn't scoring, and Horcoff wasn't on it, it was still his fault.

On my radio show it became somewhat of a cult mantra. People would end their texts or emails with Blame Horcoff. Mainly it was a parody of South Park's "Blame Canada," but the odd person believed it to be true.

If Horcoff was still here, he likely would have been blamed for not stopping Nail Yakupov from going public with his frustrations. It was a simpler time for some Oilers fans, because no matter what went wrong you could always blame one guy.

Horcoff is gone, but surprisingly (not at all) the struggles of the Oilers remain.

Horcoff played 796 games as an Oiler, 5th most all-time behind Kevin Lowe (1,037), Ryan Smyth (911), Mark Messier (851) and Glenn Anderson (845).  He is 9th all-time in goals and points, and despite what some feel he was a solid Edmonton Oiler for 12 seasons.

Horcoff is playing just over 14 minutes a game for the Stars, mainly on the third line, switching between wing and centre, and recently he was put on the 2nd unit PP for a net-front presence. Horcoff's game was never flashy, but he earned his icetime over the years. He started out as a 4th line centre, and worked his way up to the top line, and he was the #1 centre and leading point getter amongst forwards when the Oilers went to game seven of the 2006 Stanley Cup Finals.

He was unfairly vilified because his owner and general manager overpaid him. It was never his fault the Daryl Katz and Kevin Lowe signed him to a $33 million contract, but many people expected him to be an elite player after that deal. It never happened, because Horcoff was never an elite scorer. He was a tireless worker, who could produce offensively, but he wasn't going to be a consistent 75-point player.

I never felt bad for Horcoff, and neither did he. He knew the expectations would be raised when he signed that deal, and at the time he signed his six-year contract he felt he could produce. We all believe we are worth what we make. If your boss came into your office today and offered to triple your salary, you'd gladly accept it, and feel that you are worth it.

The Oilers could use a 27-year-old Shawn Horcoff right now. A guy who could produce offensively, 73 points, but knew how to play defence, and actually loved the challenge of going against  the likes of Joe Thornton, Pavel Datsyuk or Ryan Getzlaf. Horcoff wasn't the biggest guy, but his work ethic and smarts allowed him to battle and often shut down the opposition's star players.

The final few seasons of Horcoff's career in Edmonton weren't very good. The team was a consistent bottom-feeder and he missed almost half of two seasons. This summer was the right time for him to leave, but I always felt he was under appreciated as a player due to his final contract with the Oilers.

QUICK COMPARISON....

Yesterday, Nail Yakupov went public with his frustrations about a lack of icetime. Every player wants to play more, so he isn't alone with his thinking, but rarely do players go public about it, especially after only 65 NHL games. Yakupov choose that route and some feel it will cause a rift in the room or with management. Only time will tell if that occurs, but many have compared Yakupov to Steven Stamkos so I did a quick comparison of their first 65 NHL games.

No comparison is completely fair or accurate because the players had different coaches, teammates and other factors. Most notably, Yakupov's first 65 games were interrupted by a six-month summer break. It is difficult to start a season how you ended the previous one, but the comparison does give us some insight into how these two snipers were used.

FIRST 65 GAMES

Stamkos                                                        Yakupov
14-19-33 points                                           19-16-35 points
13:47 TOI/game                                           14:47 TOI/game
2:22 PP TOI/game                                       2:25 PP TOI/game

Yakupov was upset over his icetime in his previous four games. In Yakupov's first 65 games he had 11:45 or less of TOI seven times. In Stamkos' first 65 games he had 22 games with 11:45 or less of TOI.

Stamkos was a healthy scratch three times, while Yakupov has been a healthy scratch twice. Yakupov is -18 in his career while Stamkos was -14 in his first 65 games.

Barry Melrose was fired after only 16 games into Stamkos' rookie season, and his replacement Rick Tocchet didn't automatically start playing Stamkos more. Stamkos earned his icetime, and he gained a lot of momentum in the 2nd half of his season.

Ironically enough, in the final 14 games of his rookie season (game 66 to 79) Stamkos scored 9 goals and 13 points. He continued that pace into the next season and he has been the most prolific goal scorer since the beginning of the 2009 season.

I don't see Yakupov emulating Stamkos' success, mainly because it would be extremely difficult, but also because Stamkos skates better than Yakupov. Both are former #1 overall picks, but their games are very different.

I said yesterday I didn't have a major issue with Yakupov saying what he said. He is frustrated, and he willingly made his comments. They weren't done in the heat of the moment after a bad loss. He had 40 hours to think about his plan, and he elected to go through with it.

His agent, Igor Larionov, had two contract disputes in his career, so I can see why he didn't advise his client to stay quiet. Larionov has never been afraid to stand up to management, although he wasn't 20 years old and only 65 games into his NHL career when he made his stance.

I don't think Yakupov's comments will change much. Dallas Eakins isn't going to be pressured into playing him more, considering Yakupov is averaging 15:28/game this season, and I doubt Yakupov is suddenly going to become a great defensive player. For the past year I've stated the Oilers were going to have to deal one of their four kids, and Yakupov's comments might make that decision a little bit easier, but that is about the only impact I feel his comments will make.

When you compare his icetime to young players around the NHL in their first 65 games, he hasn't been treated unfairly. I'm glad he wants to play more. You wouldn't want a guy who was satisfied with his icetime, but his play will earn him more icetime, not venting publicly.

One other quick comparison between Yakupov and the other young Oiler draft picks.

Here is their point totals in their first 65 NHL games.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins:  22-34-56 
Taylor Hall: 22-20-42
Jordan Eberle: 18-23-41
Ales Hemsky: 8-29-37
Nail Yakupov: 19-16-35
Sam Gagner: 7-28-35

Hall (18), RNH (17), Eberle (17), Gagner (15) had more icetime in their first 65 games, while Hemsky played 12:20 if you look at TOI. Every situation is different of course, and in the NHL there is no such thing as "fair." But it is interesting to look at how each of them started their NHL career.

LINEUP

Perron-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Gagner-Hemsky
Smyth-Arcobello-Yakupov
Joensuu-Gordon-Jones

Ference-Petry
Belov-Larsen
N.Schultz-Potter

Dubnyk

The Oilers sent Taylor Fedun down to OKC and called up Potter. They want a bigger body and a heavy shot on the 2nd PP unit. Fedun had an unreal start to his NHL career, and he will be back, but he needs to get a touch faster. He made a great first impression. Potter might be bigger, but he rarely plays big. He'll be highly motivated to play well, at least he should be, because if he doesn't he likely won't get another one-way NHL contract.

SYSTEM TALK

There has been lots of talk about Eakins system and how it is costing the Oilers games. Eakins tweaked the system after seven games, because the players couldn't play it, however, the current system is not that difficult according to some veterans. 

"It is just about recognition, said Nick Schultz."You have to be looking around; too often we get to puck focused. You need to take a quick look at the puck, but you need to be aware of your position and your man. We have to work away from the puck and have recognition. 

"I think any system in the league, regardless of where you play, is pretty similar. You are either attacking or sitting back and it is just a matter of understanding your position, and where you have to be in all situations on the ice. Whether it is forechecking, coming through the neurtral zone or in the D-zone every player has to know where to go. You have to be aware of what your job is and where you are. You have to be able to rely on one another. I think we are starting to show spurts of that, but we need to be able to do it all the time," Nick Schultz said. 

Schultz played in Minnesota where they won because of their system. They didn't have as much skill as other teams, but they were dedicated and committed to their system. Once the Oilers can rely on one another in every area on the ice, they will win, but the players have to be willing to do it. The system is not the issue. The players need to execute it properly more often.

Captain Andrew Ference said this yesterday on my show about their defensive zone coverage.,

It is unfortunate when you look at the goals we are giving up they are a product of our mistakes more than the other team taking it too us all game and finally breaking through. We have been doing a much better job defensively in D zone coverage lately, clogging up the other teams chances and their time, but as you call them the five-star mistakes are costing us games. 

"Hockey is not complicated; no system is a big math equation. It is just concentration, consistency and it is almost 100% mental. It is just resetting yourself after a good shift, resetting yourself after a bad shift and just not carrying baggage from past games or past weeks or past shifts.

It is just focusing on what you are going to do on the next 30-40 second span. It is a tough thing. It is a very easy thing to talk about, but much harder to implement. It is easier the longer you play, because you learned how to do it. But it is hard to learn to do it consistently."  

The Oilers system isn't unique, but the players are still trying to learn to play it consistently. They have improved recently, but when they make a mistake it is usually a major error and results in a goal. They need to become more consistent in their decisions and actions, and when they do, they should have more success. But it won't be easy, it will require every player being willing to commit 100% of the time. 

TONIGHT

GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers have one home win in six starts. The fans are restless, and the Oilers will finally give them something to cheer about with a 4-3 victory.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Horcoff scores. On a one-timer. Ex-Oilers always score vs. the Oilers. Edmonton-born Vern Fiddler will get an assist on the goal.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION:
Philip Larsen gets in on the "scoring against former team" and he scores a PP goal midway through the second frame. Larsen has five points in five games so far this season and he maintains his point-per-game pace. 

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#52 Soccer Steve
November 13 2013, 03:58PM
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I wonder what happens to the entire city of Edmonton - the part that is in some way invested or affiliated to the Oilers - if we go on a 5 game winning streak (with a mauling of Calgary for good measure).

I really wonder. It sure would be nice.

P.S. I'm off to the Caribbean and will miss the next 5 games.

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#53 Cal Oatway
November 13 2013, 04:16PM
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With Buffalo making big changes within their management team, I suspect the Oilers management are shaking a little harder than yesterday. A lot of people are looking for Lowe's head and MacT, but no one is mentioning a better replacement. Who can turn the Oilers around?

I want the Oilers to be successful NOW with this management and current players. Every one needs to suck it up and work together, support each other and play the system. The Oilers owe it too their fans to at least be competitive consistently on a nightly basis. The Oiler faithful have have suffered long enough and if everyone does not pick it up and improve on their record, the owners will make the changes for them.

Let's Go Oilers !!!

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#54 Moe
November 13 2013, 04:20PM
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I love how everyone is ripping Yak's.

Its going to be that much better when he gets traded and destroys the oilers everytime he plays us.

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#55 Mikey
November 13 2013, 04:24PM
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Taylor vs. Tyler.

Giddyup.

Crap I always get these two confused when they are talked about in the same sentance. Which one did we take again? Did we take the better one?

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#56 Cynic
November 13 2013, 05:18PM
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"There is a world of difference between Radulov and Yakupov. It's like comparing Lindros to Lemieux."

Well done missing the point entirely.

Radulov was a high pick from Ruska who undefected when things didn't go his way.

If the Oilers don't handle Yak the way Yak feels is appropriate, he doesn't have to eat it. As soon as his ELC is done, he can go home and make millions.

The World's Worst Hockey Franchise needs Yak more than he needs the team.

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#57 Gk1980
November 13 2013, 09:36PM
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4 or 5 posts. No puck luck. What have we done to anger the hockey gods?

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#58 Slyers
November 13 2013, 09:50PM
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I don't get it ....why is Gagner is out for the 5/3 instead of Yak. Sam has had a free pass on terrible defensive play for seven years .. His line mates will get benched and even traded but Sam gets ice time no matter what? The only coach to hold him accountable was Quin, and he was vilified for it. Sam has some heart but he does NOTHING else even his offence is average and generally is over a 40 game stretch at best. But these coaches just keep throwing him out there. I don't agree at all with what Yak did.... However it is easy to see how a young player would see a double standard. I have been preaching for years to my friends that the two most overrated players are Gagner and Dubnyk. They both should move on. Or at the very least one becomes a winger and the other a back up goalie. Maybe Sam has some pics of who Pronger was really with? .....hmmmm

Ps. Nice sloppy rebound Dubby!,,

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#59 Alsker
November 13 2013, 11:17PM
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BingBong wrote:

3 straight shutouts at home?!? That's not even believable. Unreal. This is now the worst Oilers team in franchise history.

Just saw the Kadri hit; that forearm looked nasty.

Went to Oilkings games when they were the only Oil in town. Talent wise this is far from the worst, organizationally(big word for how many beers Ive had) definitely. This changes only from the top down. We need enthusiasm, ambition, and an understanding of what it takes to win. Old 6 rings has none of these. If there is an alumni full of spit and vinegar bring him in, or get someone completely new. The status que DOES NOT WORK. Ok before someone thinks I'm NAS that is all. Good night and be safe.

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#60 dobiezeke
November 13 2013, 11:32PM
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Slats wrote:

Another nice fairly safe and pretty game by the Oilers. Two great chances early but did you notice how every oiler player peels off to the corner no one willing to stop, get dirty, for a rebound goal. Pretty very pretty.

Horrendous 5 on 3 - High slot could have parked a Semi trailer there was so much room. Where was Jonensuu on the 5 on 3 or for any PP in front of the net the guy is a beast. 5 forwards can someone tell me any great PP that used 5 frickin fwds???

HALL SHOOT THE PUCK AT END OF GAME FROM HIGH SLOT - WTF.

good job Dubey (1 minor hiccup). . .nickel lining on this one

Hall has a five cent brain...he believes he sees lanes on the ice that never exist.

Eakins has shat the bed with his support of the PP. Did he watch how Dallas clogged the front of the net?

Classic Oiler hockey - dump the puck in and watch how a good team walks it out of their end untouched.

Eberle playing like he was traded last week.

Yakupov continues to play like someone who has never watched hockey. 90 second shifts do nothing for your argument. The opposition is the team wearing the away uniforms - quit giving them the puck.

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#61 oilerjed
November 13 2013, 02:30PM
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DSF wrote:

Taylor vs. Tyler.

Giddyup.

OGP: Taylor hammers Tyler thru the end boards and scores off goalies head. Wait for it.

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#62 Benny Botts
November 13 2013, 02:54PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

A Fail is when you don't read the lines correctly. Yakupov is playing with Arcobello, the guy who is tied for 3rd in points and 2nd on team in assists. #facepalm

Big fan of this ^

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#63 dougtheslug
November 13 2013, 03:04PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

Ok it's official?! We are running the nondrinking, religious kid, out of town.

But we'll keep the good ole Canadian boys, who party it up after a loss. Good thinking Oilers fans.

Who was the last great player to retire an Oiler?

Kevin Lowe

Oh, wait a second, the question was "Who was the last great player to retire an Oiler?", not "Who was the last Oiler who thought he was great to retire as an Oiler?" Sorry.

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#64 Randaman
November 13 2013, 03:48PM
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Alsker wrote:

Ok including your first post with this one I'm assuming you would rather have Yak play with Hall(future w. future) rather than #4+#83 together. Then I agree providing the Gagner experiment at center is not used between them.

Hall, Nuge, Yak!! That would be a killer combo in my mind.

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#65 MessyEH!
November 13 2013, 03:52PM
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@wiseguy

Fair is fair.

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#66 Dog Train
November 13 2013, 03:55PM
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I still hate the Stars. Misery loves company so let's drag them down with us. Corey Potter is back so we're bound to win!

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#67 Mike Krushelnyski
November 13 2013, 04:15PM
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The one thing I can say for sure about Yakupov's ice time is I won't be watching a second of it! Wake me up for the Olympics.

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#68 Wäx Män Riley
November 13 2013, 04:34PM
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Al Low wrote:

Although Horc was overpaid because of 6 time Stanley Cup winner Kevin Lowe's generous overpayment for him (thanks in large part to his 100K hardline stance against Ryan Smyth the year before), I just want to remind Oiler fans about how well he played in the Stanley Cup run in 2006. I may get slammed for this post but it needs to be said, as I reminisce about how fun it was as a fan to be a part of that thrilling run. Although he wasn't the best player on the team, he was the first line centre, great penalty killer, solid defensively and excellent in the faceoff circle in that run. Seeing how bad the team is this year it puts into perspective how Horcoff was not the problem on the team the last few years.

I propped you, but as we all know....

IT ALWAYS WAS AND STILL IS HORCOFF'S FAULT!!!

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#69 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 05:18PM
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The oil are due to win one. And Dallas is weak enough to be beaten. 5-3 oil.

If, however the score is the other way, and especially if they get behind early, the fan reaction could be one for the history books - there is a lot of pent-up frustration in oiler nation.

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#70 YFC Prez
November 13 2013, 09:29PM
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Dammit dubnyk

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#71 Sailge
November 13 2013, 09:31PM
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Wow pp. Brutal. Score a damn goal.

Nice coverage there petry.

Gagner is awful. No goals in 19 back to last year.

I am a die-hard but I can't stop watching this train-wreck.

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#72 Alsker
November 13 2013, 09:55PM
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Slyers wrote:

I don't get it ....why is Gagner is out for the 5/3 instead of Yak. Sam has had a free pass on terrible defensive play for seven years .. His line mates will get benched and even traded but Sam gets ice time no matter what? The only coach to hold him accountable was Quin, and he was vilified for it. Sam has some heart but he does NOTHING else even his offence is average and generally is over a 40 game stretch at best. But these coaches just keep throwing him out there. I don't agree at all with what Yak did.... However it is easy to see how a young player would see a double standard. I have been preaching for years to my friends that the two most overrated players are Gagner and Dubnyk. They both should move on. Or at the very least one becomes a winger and the other a back up goalie. Maybe Sam has some pics of who Pronger was really with? .....hmmmm

Ps. Nice sloppy rebound Dubby!,,

Been asking that for years, bigger question is why the 4 year contract extension. Not a 2C, 3C, tough winger, better options anyways,64,4,14,83,57. Why is he here, why is he playing at all???

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#73 Alsker
November 13 2013, 10:20PM
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@James

Not complaining, doesn't help anyway. Just happy waking up on the right side of the dirt pile everyday.

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#74 Gk1980
November 13 2013, 10:23PM
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@Johnnydapunk

Yup

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#75 YFC Prez
November 13 2013, 10:25PM
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I am the a big time gagner supporter and I remember telling everyone they were nuts for thinking that arcobello would ever replace gagner but it's not really looking to far fetched now.

Gagners offence is invisible and arco just made another stellar defensive play.

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#76 Quintana
November 13 2013, 10:54PM
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I can't believe Eakins still has a job.What a joke.....

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#77 Slyers
November 13 2013, 11:19PM
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Gagner out on the ice again for last minute when we need a goal. This coach for the Oilers...not too bright.

Like I said in a earlier post Sam is like Teflon none of his mistakes stick to him. He can play like crap defensively, not win a face off, miss assignments(not too bad tonight) and get prime ice time 5/3, last min ice you name it...it's a FREAKING NIGHTMARE MYSTERY, rapped up in an enigma!!!!!

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#78 dobiezeke
November 13 2013, 11:23PM
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Make Joey the PP coach...god knows he has seen more success in his career than the clowns on the bench.

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November 13 2013, 01:13PM
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@Jason Gregor

Fair point. In the end it's up to each player to make the most of their chances. Ditto for Arcobello.

I remember in the preseason the talk was that the Oilers weren't tough enough. They added a big, engaging 4th line that fought I think 3 times in the first 4 games and the Oilers were playing well, they just got terrible goal tending (and the game in Vancouver).

My mother gave me her two cents yesterday, partly because she's heard me talk about the Oilers a little too much lately. She said it looks to her like they play afraid, not trusting each other, that they need to become a family.

It was a typical mother comment but it made me think that these guys began the season playing with more grit because they knew there were guys ready to step up. The season began going the wrong way, tough players began to play less or even got traded (Brown), and suddenly the Oilers don't seem confident to eve throw a hit. They keep trying to check opposing players with their sticks rather than going for the man.

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#80 dougtheslug
November 13 2013, 01:45PM
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Whatever one thinks of Horcoff as a player, we can all agree that he was signed to a bad contract. And the way he was signed to that contract seems emblematic of the impulsive, ill-conceived way of doing business that is the hallmark of the Kevin Lowe era.

Remember he was signed to a 3 year 10.8 million dollar contract in 2006, after his break-through offensive season, and then regressed(some might say regressed to the mean) the following year with 51 points in 80 games and a -22. In the second year of his contract (at age 29), he had a stellar start to year, with 50 points in 53 games, but his season was shortened by injury. Rather than wait to see how he bounced back from injury, or to see if there was another regression(based on the data, not terribly hard to predict), Kevin Lowe signed him to a 6 year 33 million dollar extension , not kicking in until 2009, and carrying through until 2015, when Horcoff would turn 37, at a yearly cap hit of 5.5 million. The extension seemed at the time, unnecessarily premature and in hindsight, very bad management.

The events of the last year (impulsively firing Kruger and hiring Eakins based on "saying the right thing" in an interview, reflex signings of facepunching nonskaters in an anachronistic attempt to address the problem of team toughness, hiring a pariah of a goalie who hasn't played NHL in over 6 months and trading away a popular player for a risky prospect to address a goaltender depth problem entirely of their own making)points to more of the same fly-be-the-seat-of-their-pants decision making that this management structure (KL on down) seems utterly wedded to .

Flipping a number one overall after little more that half a season for less than he's worth seems utterly predictable from this bunch. And points to another long era of bottom feeding and hearing, every June, "The Edmonton Oilers are proud to select, number one overall in the draft....etc....

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#81 Rocket
November 13 2013, 02:18PM
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So this is what it has come to for me. Watching an Oilers game to see Horcoff play. It would have been fun to watch him play against Smid.

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#82 NRH
November 13 2013, 03:16PM
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Interesting comment from a fan made on TSN.ca...In Ken Dryden's book 'The Game'...there is a symmetry between the 1970s Leafs and the current Oilers..The Leafs had Sittler, McDonald, etc..young and promising but as Dryden points out that promise fades without being reinforced by winning. The current Oilers need strnog veteran leadership...Sidney Crosby had Lemieux, Stamkos had (and has) St. Louis, etc.. Players who have not had those strong role models (OV for example) struggle on how to make the playes around them better. Bottom line is that the Oilers need to get vets that know how to win and they need to do it quickly before the like of Hall and Eberle are ruined.

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#83 Al Low
November 13 2013, 03:34PM
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Although Horc was overpaid because of 6 time Stanley Cup winner Kevin Lowe's generous overpayment for him (thanks in large part to his 100K hardline stance against Ryan Smyth the year before), I just want to remind Oiler fans about how well he played in the Stanley Cup run in 2006. I may get slammed for this post but it needs to be said, as I reminisce about how fun it was as a fan to be a part of that thrilling run. Although he wasn't the best player on the team, he was the first line centre, great penalty killer, solid defensively and excellent in the faceoff circle in that run. Seeing how bad the team is this year it puts into perspective how Horcoff was not the problem on the team the last few years.

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#84 TDSM31
November 13 2013, 03:43PM
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I know this is off topic for this post but looks like Buffalo is trying to secure that Connor McDavid pick by copying our franchise model.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=436517

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#85 Ron
November 13 2013, 03:51PM
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If you are so hung up on how H'coff was unappreciated just wait for him to retire and Lowe will hire him.

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#86 dougtheslug
November 13 2013, 03:58PM
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Johe wrote:

LET'S BE POSITIVE PEOPLE!!! ENOUGH OF THIS REALISTIC NEGATIVE CRAP!!!

GDP: Oilers win by a field goal.

OGDP: Nail Yakupov scores his first goal at home and celebrates by kissing the Oilers logo at center ice. Taylor Hall beats Tyler Seguin into a coma. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins sets up three goals, eliminates terrorism, and plays so well defensively that Dallas Eakins smiles. Shawn Horcoff sheds a tear when the Oilers play a classy tribute to him on the jumbo tron.

NSOGDP: Oilers Nation is happy.

Re: NSOGDP

If there is a heartbeat on the Oilers, and they play hard for 60 minutes and pay attention to defensive detail a la Jacques Lemaire's old Minnesota Wild, and win by 3, they will be a tiny flicker of hope in ON

If they get outshot 36-14 and fluke off a point or even 2, a la Calgary last night against San Jose, ON will be far from happy

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#87 camdog
November 13 2013, 05:00PM
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Wäx Män Riley wrote:

The people that think Yak deserves more minutes are the same people that think Omark should be on the team.

Robbie Shremp all the way baby!!!I still can't believe there were Oiler fans that wanted Shremp to get more action!

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#88 Harlie
November 13 2013, 05:35PM
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Spies Like Us quote seems worthy at this time.

Russian Interregator #2: Every minute you don't tell us why you are here, I cut off a finger.

Emmett Fitz-Hume: Mine or yours?

Russian Interregator #2: Yours.

Emmett Fitz-Hume: Damn!

Emmett Fitz-Hume: [trying to buy time by making something up] All right! All right, I'm an American agent!

Russian Interregator #2: And...?

Emmett Fitz-Hume: And? And... uhh... they... they sent me here t-to assassinate your Premier!

Russian Interregator #2: [to the other interregator] I knew it! Pay up, comrade!

Russian Interregator #1: [unimpressed] Let's cut his fingers off anyway.

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#89 Mason Storm
November 13 2013, 05:50PM
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This is all an elaborate ploy by management too get our minds off the lack of arena talk in the city. When will that be built? 2025?

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#90 dave
November 13 2013, 06:39PM
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NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION:

Horcoff pots 2 goals then with 10 seconds left he gets a brakeaway he misses he net then Edmonton goes all 2007 and Hemsky scores with 2 seconds left to bring it to overtime. Then in Overtime Yak eventually pots the Game WInner!

Oilers lost that game to Dallas. So maybe Benn pots the SO winner after Hemsky scores to tie lol

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#91 dave
November 13 2013, 06:41PM
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No not Chris Cuthbert wrote:

As long as Chris Cuthbert is not the play by play guy. His voice is like ... chalk squeaking on a blackboard etc etc. I would have to turn off the sound. He is that bad IMHO.

I like him and Ferraro/Johnson a helluva lot more than the bozos Kevin Quinn and Louie Debrusk. Those guys are sickening... "Like I said Kevin, Oilers just gotta get pucks in deep and move their feet, go to the tough areas and generate some scoring chances." Yuck lol

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#92 James
November 13 2013, 08:32PM
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watching Dallas feed, quite decent game so far. Well if you forget Hemmers give away.

You'd be forgetting almost all the games then. We have 8 give aways to Dallas's 1. Ugh! Acro and Hemmer each with 2.

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#93 Alsker
November 13 2013, 08:37PM
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Nice to see 4-93-14 together. They have been in Dallas zone this whole period. Dubbys biggest save was on Hemmers beauty of a pass giving D 2-0 in our zone.

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#94 Reg Dunlop
November 13 2013, 08:51PM
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When healthy the oil should be competitive with 2nd tier teams like Dallas. So far tonight they have been. It's a small step in the right direction.

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#95 Alsker
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@James

Turnovers or not we have not been trapped in our zone for eons on end as per @ Philly. The game has been fairly evenly played and that is a huge step up from the last 3. And its entertaining so hang the stats grab a brewsky or a few and enjoy. We're not losing...

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#96 YFC Prez
November 13 2013, 08:55PM
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@BingBong

Phil or Adam?

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#97 Alsker
November 13 2013, 09:02PM
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@James

Thank god...thought I was in for a battle with a statoid..cheers oh dont forget the odd chaser(off to the freezer for little polar ice)

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#98 BingBong
November 13 2013, 09:06PM
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Phil or Adam?

Ha. I just meant he's really just a forward playing defense.

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#99 YFC Prez
November 13 2013, 09:20PM
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Throw potter out on the 5 on 3 and blast some damn pucks at lehtonen. I cringe everytime the oil get a 2 man advantage. Simplify it.

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#100 James
November 13 2013, 09:23PM
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@YFC Prez

This team is clearly missing the "Corey Potter power play".

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