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Lowetide
November 13 2013 05:18PM

 

I know this is petty, we're better than that and it's a small victory. There is absolutely no way it's going to be enough, the season is an out of control train and beating one bad team counts for zero in real life. 

Don't care. Whatever else happens, beat Calgary.

AS IT STANDS

The team is 1-5-0 at home, 3-8-2 on the road and 2-7-1 in their last 10. They have so many holes defensively the mind boggles, and the mood of the city is toxic. Into that atmosphere the Oilers have to score early, get the crowd behind them and improve that home record in a big way.

The two teams (Calgary and Edmonton) are both 2-7-1 in the last 10, and the Oilers can close the gap to three points tonight (Calgary will have two games in hand). Their first 10 games (3-6-1) were better than the next nine games (1-7-1 entering tonight) but it's also true tonight's game is only their 7th at home all season. That could make a difference if they take advantage of last change, and the Rexall crowd needs to cheer like mad, too.

COME ON, MAN

The goals for is no screaming hell, but that GA total is ghastly. If the Oilers are going to get anything done this season--and we're not asking for much--then the goals against total must go down. At their current pace, the club is on track to allow 324 goals, the highest total for an Oilers team since 1992-93, their black hole season.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME, LATELY

The offense lost both Taylor Hall and David Perron for extended periods during the last 10 games, and Justin Schultz was ineffective/injured. Oilers used 28 position players during the last 10 games.

Holy mackerel, that's a lot of goals against!

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

This team needs to focus on the detail work, the defensive chores, the scut work. They need to catch Calgary. After that, they can find another target.

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#51 Cynic
November 13 2013, 09:55PM
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Oiler-fan despair is reaching epic heights. You're whining about future losses while current losses are still playing out on TV. These truly are golden times.

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#52 Loyal Oil
November 13 2013, 09:56PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Can someone tell me how the Oilers chose to let two prospect goalies pass in the draft, then trade a prospect goalie for a prospect goalie basically giving Smid away for free to a divisional rival??

It's really baffling.

Are you suggesting the guys running the ship don't have a freaking clue how to build an actual NHL team (even with THREE #1 overall picks on the roster)?

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#53 Yaz
November 13 2013, 10:02PM
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WTF..Does Eakins ever look engaged in the game ? For whatever reason this guy shows no emotion or leadership on the bench, no damn wonder the players are disconnected, they're struggling and this dude just looks at the roof ? How the hell did he ever get hired, bad call Mac T ..I hoped he'd really help the young guys, how well is that working for us ....Looks like we're pitching another home ice shutout..going to bed, screw it.

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#54 DSF
November 13 2013, 10:05PM
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coolcanuck1 wrote:

The hounds should have been unleashed already. Why there isn't more criticism of Eakins astounds me. The guy doesn't admit he makes mistakes, hasn't adjusted his coaching style to the teams he plays, is making very questionable line combinations, etc. etc. This team is going nowhere with him as coach.

Trading one of the few defensemen we had that would block shots (Smid) in return for the proverbial bag of pucks/prospect makes one wonder about MacT's judgement.

Lowe should have been long gone.

Calgary at least plays a system and works hard and the only question is whether Calgary or Edmonton finish last in the Division. My bet is that as long as Eakins is coach, it will be Edmonton.

As to Yak, he will be great in time, but unfortunately not here with the coach we have.

Yakupov was not used at all on the 5 on 3 PP.

That alone should be enough for Larionov to blow his stack.

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#55 K_Mart
November 13 2013, 10:13PM
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Just finished reading Malcolm Gladwell's new book David and Goliath. What a read. So many things in that book had relevant application to the Oilers, and Yakupov in particular.

Players like Yakupov, Hall, and RNH who have always been the best wherever they've played have to be treated that way even if it isn't the case in order to provide the best development. It seems to go against common sense, but giving yakupov top line minutes for the entire season may be the best way to get his game going, even if he hasn't earned it. He definitely hasn't been the one of our best 6 forwards, but treating someone like yakupov as if they are anything other than one of the best players is almost guaranteed to result in stunting his development. However, if you truly can't give yakupov 17+ minutes every night until he finds his game, than you can send him to OKC. The book talks about tens of thousands of cases of students going to a smaller, less competitive environment and having more successful careers than superior students placed in more competitive environments. If neither of those things takes place, he will lose his confidence and almost certainly fail to reach his potential. Strongly recommend reading the chapter on the big fish bigger pond.

Also, the book further reinforces that sometimes things that appear so clearly to be advantages (adding never ending amounts of skill and goal scoring) can become massive disadvantages. This seems counter intuitive since scoring goals is the entire purpose of a hockey game, but obviously there is more to it than that. Just backs up a ton of the talk about how the oilers need more than just skilled goal scorers. Size, physicality, defensive reliablity.. all obvious deficiencies

There are a number of studies about underdogs that just rang so true when compared to the oilers. I could definitely be misinterpreting the findings, but it sure made me think the oilers are screwed if they don't trade one of their stars and start developing draft picks in jr. and the ahl before just throwing them to the wolves in the nhl.

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#56 HardBoiledOil
November 13 2013, 10:15PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Can someone tell me how the Oilers chose to let two prospect goalies pass in the draft, then trade a prospect goalie for a prospect goalie basically giving Smid away for free to a divisional rival??

It's really baffling.

stupid Montreal just took Fucale one pick before us to keep us from getting him! but I have been the biggest critics of the Oilers not taking just ONE measly goalie in the last two drafts, especially when there were other potential NHL calibre goalies in the draft like Jarry, Comrie and Martin. can't figure out why they didn't just take Jarry after losing out on Fucale, but I thought for sure they were going to take either Comrie or Spencer Martin with the pick right after Marco Roy was taken, but they just kept trading down for lower percentage players...but to be fair, the Oilers have tried and tried to draft a potential NHL goalie, but haven't had success yet with Roy (traded now), Bunz, Tuohiima, and Perhonen (gone). I have heard from the media in the past that the Oilers may prefer to just sign an established NHL goalie than try to develop one.

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#57 Walter Sobchak
November 13 2013, 10:16PM
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Loyal Oil wrote:

Are you suggesting the guys running the ship don't have a freaking clue how to build an actual NHL team (even with THREE #1 overall picks on the roster)?

Yep, that pretty much what it means.

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#58 Walter Sobchak
November 13 2013, 10:19PM
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@HardBoiledOil

I don't mind trading for an almost ready goalie re-Bishop, but you have to get him.

Not drafting one of those goalies you mention, then trading our prospect for another one is a lateral move, it doesn't make sense.....at all.

Then to just give Smid away blows my mind.

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#59 coolcanuck1
November 13 2013, 10:33PM
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@Walter Sobchak

Read any of the drafting reports and you can always find the top rated prospect, no skill required. However, the skill in drafting is in the lower rounds and how have our scouts/management done in this area compared to the elite teams- p……poor!

Strength down the centre,(RNH but no centre with any size),.

We just haven't picked well for goalies at all and the existing defence is v weak (Petry, Schultz, Belov, Ference are all 3, 4, 5, 6 (no 1.2's on the team)

Jury is out on some of the young defencemen (Marinicin. Klefbom, etc. )in the minors but they do show some promise, keep them away from Eakins and they may be fine in the future.

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#60 HardBoiledOil
November 13 2013, 10:33PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

I don't mind trading for an almost ready goalie re-Bishop, but you have to get him.

Not drafting one of those goalies you mention, then trading our prospect for another one is a lateral move, it doesn't make sense.....at all.

Then to just give Smid away blows my mind.

keep in mind that Smid appears to be a salary dump so we could free up cash to sign Breezy, hence the low return for him.

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#61 Hauk15
November 13 2013, 10:38PM
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steelymac wrote:

Eakins CAN fuc% right off with the all mighty bullship.How in the hell your special teams can go from top five to bottom of the fu&$in league is beyond me.Time to put your fu%#in ego aside and keep what worked last year.But as long as you got a FU@KIN ego maniac running the show whats going to change.

You have to remember, Eakins knows it all! He is an AHL calder cup winning coach! Clearly he is a great NHL coach with his 4-13-2 record and a 20 year old 1st-overall on the verge of being driven out of town!

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#62 Drowning in Oil
November 13 2013, 10:41PM
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YA, Nobody gives up the puck except for Yak........ Right Taylor Hall. Got to love when Ryan Smyth is put out in the last 2 minutes of a game when a goal is needed. This shows everything!!

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#63 Cynic
November 13 2013, 10:41PM
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Love how the PA guy is announcing the Seguin empty-netter in the voice of the depressed robot from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

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#64 Hauk15
November 13 2013, 10:42PM
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COME ON DUBNYK MAKE A SAVE!!! oh nevermind the net was empty! I couldn't tell the difference.

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#65 K_Mart
November 13 2013, 10:42PM
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180 straight home minutes without a goal. That pretty much sums it up.

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#66 Gkpoil
November 13 2013, 10:43PM
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Never thought it would truly give up on the oil.... What a bunch of F*CKING BUMS!!!!!

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#67 Hauk15
November 13 2013, 10:45PM
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I want nothing more than to see Dallas Eakins and Kevin Lowe fired. MacT can be GM and coach. Bring in Gretzky as POHO.

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#68 K_Mart
November 13 2013, 10:45PM
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weird that I know we are going to lose pretty much every night and somehow still watch and still come to this f'n webpage. How do I quit.

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#69 Walter Sobchak
November 13 2013, 10:46PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

keep in mind that Smid appears to be a salary dump so we could free up cash to sign Breezy, hence the low return for him.

I realize why Smid was dumped, but there are other players I can think of on the Oilers who could have been dumped instead.

The other point is why sign Brysgalov? Season is done, chances of Bysgalov signing with the Oilers long term after this season is slim to none.

Anyway you slice it, just a poor, poor trade.

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#70 K_Mart
November 13 2013, 10:46PM
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trade hemsky, trade eberle, trade yakupov, trade gagner, build a winning team.

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#71 Hauk15
November 13 2013, 10:46PM
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K_Mart wrote:

weird that I know we are going to lose pretty much every night and somehow still watch and still come to this f'n webpage. How do I quit.

Yeah man this team is like f*cking heroin!

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#72 china town man
November 13 2013, 10:47PM
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This just in !!! The oilers Really really suck as suck can Be sucked !!!! I know I don't Make any sense who care we suck

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#73 Gordie Wayne
November 13 2013, 10:49PM
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As an Oiler fan I don't know if I have ever been so frustrated...I usually don't feel this way until late February. Atl least we have Olympic hockey this year.

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#74 K_Mart
November 13 2013, 10:49PM
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for the media saying the oilers shouldn't just make a trade for the sake of making a trade.... screw that. 7-8 years of losing is long enough. make a trade. make it a big one, you can't be afraid to fail. try something. just go for it.

Also, darnell nurse is killing it. Can't wait for him and Connor Mcdavid to save our franchise.

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#75 hankthetank
November 13 2013, 10:51PM
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don't know where to aim my frustrations at tonite...

and there is no more kool aid in my fridge.

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#76 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 10:51PM
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Hauk15 wrote:

I want nothing more than to see Dallas Eakins and Kevin Lowe fired. MacT can be GM and coach. Bring in Gretzky as POHO.

In other words:

The old boy network is dead! Long live the old boy network!!

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#77 Drowning in Oil
November 13 2013, 10:53PM
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I'm waiting to hear all the softballs thrown at this coaching and management staff by the local media. I can't wait to hear Stauffer talk Eakins up like a Peruvian prince. Absolutely brutal!!

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#78 bazmagoo
November 13 2013, 10:54PM
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Hauk15 wrote:

You have to remember, Eakins knows it all! He is an AHL calder cup winning coach! Clearly he is a great NHL coach with his 4-13-2 record and a 20 year old 1st-overall on the verge of being driven out of town!

Slight correction, Dallas hasn't won jack at the professional level.

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#79 Loyal Oil
November 13 2013, 10:54PM
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Eakins won't play yak on the 5 on 3 out of stubbornness even though we are dying for his offence. Why in the world would lowe hire such a stubborn stubborn coach...oh wait a minute.

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#80 Loweblows
November 13 2013, 10:55PM
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I hope Calgary kicks our ass Saturday night- I want to keep losing until Lowe Eakins Bucky and smith are gone-now we can't score- beg forgiveness to Krueger and fire Eakins for a start, it is obvious he is not a NHL caliber coach

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#81 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 10:55PM
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The stars got a lot of excellent looks, score could have been even worse. Dubnyk played decent enough, but this team just cannot score.

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#82 Stack Pad Save
November 13 2013, 10:55PM
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K_Mart wrote:

for the media saying the oilers shouldn't just make a trade for the sake of making a trade.... screw that. 7-8 years of losing is long enough. make a trade. make it a big one, you can't be afraid to fail. try something. just go for it.

Also, darnell nurse is killing it. Can't wait for him and Connor Mcdavid to save our franchise.

Can you handle the drug we call Oilers for another year after this one to draft Conor McDavid? Too bad they can't give him exceptional player status to draft him a year early. Especially since Buffalo has fired their head coach and GM and will probably get on a hot streak to lift them up and past the Oilers.

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#83 Sam R.
November 13 2013, 10:58PM
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Mr. MacTavish.

Please Don't Draft Me.

Thanks,

Sam

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#84 Taylor Gang
November 13 2013, 11:00PM
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Play bad for Ekblad!

Too soon?

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#85 Drowning in Oil
November 13 2013, 11:01PM
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Imagine what is going through Darnell Nurse's head. I can't imagine he is to excited to start his NHL career in the NHL's equivalent to American Horror Story!!! Poor kid, so much potential and a talent sucking organization run by a circus clown!!!

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#86 bazmagoo
November 13 2013, 11:02PM
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Loyal Oil wrote:

Eakins won't play yak on the 5 on 3 out of stubbornness even though we are dying for his offence. Why in the world would lowe hire such a stubborn stubborn coach...oh wait a minute.

I didn't watch the game tonight but this is ridiculous. I'm done watching the Oil as long as Eakins is coach.

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#87 Serious Gord
November 13 2013, 11:03PM
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Buf win last night - now just one pt behind oil.

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#88 6 ring circus
November 13 2013, 11:04PM
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What do the Oiler's and Toronto Mayor Rob Ford have in common?... They have both hit rock bottom.

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#89 Rick T
November 13 2013, 11:05PM
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The one common denominator thru the last 3 years of poor defence converge by our defence men is Steve Smith . I wish we had Charlie Huddy back and I bet so does Mac T.

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#90 Burnward
November 13 2013, 11:08PM
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Every time I see a shot of Eakins behind the bench, it looks like he's seen the ghost of every one and done coach in NHL history.

Dude needs to be put out of his misery.

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#91 Drowning in Oil
November 13 2013, 11:18PM
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What do the Oilers and i ( married with small children ) have in common? we both can't score at home!!

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#92 JJ
November 13 2013, 11:19PM
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Rick T wrote:

The one common denominator thru the last 3 years of poor defence converge by our defence men is Steve Smith . I wish we had Charlie Huddy back and I bet so does Mac T.

Apparently Huddy's been great in Winnipeg developing players like Bogosian and Trouba. I'm sure they're glad to have him. Of course, he has better players to work with than Steve Smith does.

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#93 dougtheslug
November 13 2013, 11:24PM
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Seven years of hell, still searching for a bottom. At this point, the only real interest for me is trying to imagine what it is going to look like. Every time I think we've hit it, we go through another trap door.

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#94 Alsker
November 13 2013, 11:44PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

Seven years of hell, still searching for a bottom. At this point, the only real interest for me is trying to imagine what it is going to look like. Every time I think we've hit it, we go through another trap door.

Makes me think of bugs bunny, have we hit China yet? Oh wait maybe we'll find the land that time forgot. Maybe kBlowe would be so kind to release the combination of prescription painkillers + favorite thirst quencher he uses to watch these games and we might all enjoy them. This has gone from sad to embarrassing.

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#95 Alsker
November 13 2013, 11:50PM
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Burnward wrote:

Every time I see a shot of Eakins behind the bench, it looks like he's seen the ghost of every one and done coach in NHL history.

Dude needs to be put out of his misery.

My youngest(21) is a big Dr.Who nut and can't help seeing Eakins as the perfect double/new Doctor. Needs a scarf and he's good to go. God I do miss the days of Slats throwing sticks on the ice, screaming at the top of his lungs at refs,opposition and especially his own team. How many guys do you see come to the bench and try to sit next to the backup goalie. It was one of the few "safe" places on the bench back then.

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#96 Britts94
November 14 2013, 12:04AM
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Make Smytty retire, fire Eakins, and then get Mr. Flow to run the show. Maybe the Banff boy will get dem oilers off their asses.

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#97 Don W
November 14 2013, 12:08AM
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I need someone to remind me how the oilers had to trade smid for salary cap reasons. Capgeek says they have $5,683,467 in space today so I don't get the timing of the smid trade. I guess they just have too many NHL quality dmen who are tough and block shots . Honestly, if they feel he is just a bottom pairing guy next year trade him in the off season. I just can't see how you wouldn't be able to trade him for magic beans at that time.

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#98 Walter Sobchak
November 14 2013, 12:12AM
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If the Oilers lose against San Jose ( which is a given) then go into Calgary and lose, that should be it for the whole lot of them upstairs.

How this is allowed to continue is beyond me?

MacTavish is so far over his head he's clearly drowning, he's made one good trade, an absolute brutal trade, a bunch of piss poor signings and can't find NHL players if his life depended on it, he's got a forth line of AHL players, no top pairing defensmen & his centre depth is abysmal.

To make maters worse he brought in a rookie coach and the only person Eakins can lean on is in his own personal nightmare giving obviously bad direction to his head coach.

Meanwhile POHO is in need of a serious career change.

All this and the worse Oiler record in history & we have not even seen the absentee owner.

Oh ya! That's how ya run a championship team.

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#99 Ari Gold
November 14 2013, 12:19AM
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DSF wrote:

Yakupov was not used at all on the 5 on 3 PP.

That alone should be enough for Larionov to blow his stack.

Yup. True that. 100% correct. Here here. Yak is a trigger man. The gunslinger. Coaches are there to find the best fit, use what they've got. I understand that many of our players need to develop but they're just being ran into the ground. Eakins is trying to turn them into something they're not.

Good luck, Edmonton Oilers, version 2013. I'm out.

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#100 Oiler Al
November 14 2013, 12:32AM
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Well, Dubnyk played well enough to win, the defense was decent [except Petry], but these were not the duds, it was the studs up front that could not pull it off. Cant even score on 5 on 3. They cant even remember when the last time was they scored at home... joke.

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