GDB 21.0: STARTING OVER

Jason Gregor
November 15 2013 12:30PM

The Oilers enter the second quarter of their season tonight vs. the San Jose Sharks. The first quarter had disastrous results, and cost them a playoff spot. The management, coaches and players can't look at it that way, playoffs being a pipe dream, but a 4-14-2 start has them 15 points out of the playoffs.

The remainder of this season will be about understanding the system, learning to compete, not just working hard, every shift and hopefully the bitter taste and stench of losing will motivate the players to never be in this situation again.

The Oilers must use the next 62 games to build the foundation of continuity and winning. If they want to become winners, they must be committed to the system, their teammates and themselves.

The Oilers are showing signs of improvement in some areas of their game.

Despite going 0-for-5 last game the Oilers PP is 25% in their last eight games. Their PK has killed off 25 of the last 26 powerplays, 96.3%, over their past eight games.

Many will say the Oilers haven't improved enough because they aren't winning, and that is valid. However, the Oilers can't  solve all their problems over night. These next 20 games will be a test of their character and inner strength. Do they have willpower and focus to concentrate on the next game and not pout or worry about the previous 20? Have they learned that they need to play smarter, faster, stronger and with move conviction in order to win?

We won't know until December 29th. That is when they will have played half the season. Can this team stick together, play hard and become competitive? The next quarter of the season will show us a glimpse of whether or not they can execute the system, or if they have the guts to go to the net consistently,  or if they have the intestinal fortitude to try and stop opposing teams from going to the net and the internal desire to finally learn how to win.

The 2nd quarter of the season could show us a lot about which players should be here long-term.

DIFFERENT APPROACH...

If I was Andrew Ference, I would sit the team down and show them some of the great inspirational/motivational speeches from movies. Hockey is a game. You can inject some humour into the game. Try and get the players to relax, inhale and recognize that it isn't life or death.

For some reason our society thrives on negativity too often. Yes, the first 20 games were f^@#*&()*) embarrassing. But whining and focusing on it every day isn't going to change that. Learn from it. Challenge them to be better, and maybe have some fun doing it.

Here are some examples. Guys love this stuff. I know watching these clips made me laugh and they got me fired up.

I'd start with something light... 

"That's what were here for guys, to win." I freaking love that line. Makes me laugh every time...

Most sports movies have a dramatic scene that usually leads to the team bonding or that shows an individual realizing they need to work harder. We eat this stuff up. We love it, and that's why we watch those movies over and over again.

Ference could show them this one. (fast forward to 1:40 to the quicksand speech.) 

"You're playing and you think everything is going fine. Then one thing goes wrong. And then another. And another. You try to fight back, but the harder you fight, the deeper you sink. Until you can't move... you can't breathe... because you're in over your head. Like quicksand." Shane Falco

That could resonate with many Oilers right now. They have had numerous things go wrong...but they can't let it paralyze them.

Then I'd show them this one. It is fitting since the Sharks are in town. (actual words start at 2:00)

For some laughs I'd follow it up with this one. This kid is great.

Then, I would play the greatest sports speech of all-time. I don't care what sport you play, whether you are playing beer league, the NHL, NFL or road hockey this scene/speech will get your blood flowing. 

Eakins could play this one.

"I can't make you do it....Either we heal now as a team, or we will die as individuals...Now what are you going to do?"

Tony FREAKING D'Amato (Pacino) would have made a great coach.

I would leave them with this one.  

I understand the need to talk systems and strategy, but sometimes you simply need to tap into the emotions of the players, and in this case, with the loyal citizens of Oilersnation.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov
Smyth-Gordon-Perron
Joensuu-Acton-Jones/Gazdic

Ference-Petry
Belov-Larsen
N.Schultz-Potter

Dubnyk

Sitting Arcobello is perplexing. I don't get it. He has been solid offensively, defensively and on the PK. 

The Sharks are playing their third game in four nights. They defeated the Flames Tuesday and the Canucks last night, both times in OT. Fatigue

The Sharks have three players averaging a point-a-game. Thornton and Pavelski have 20 points in 19 games, while Logan Couture has 19 in 19. Patrick Marleau has 18 points and Tomas Hertl has 17. The Oilers will face Alex Stalock. He has won both of his starts, and he has a dazzling 0.946 SV% and 1.57 GAA.

GAME DAY PREDICTION: On paper this is an easy choice, the Sharks should dominate, however, it is Positive Friday and if Ference showed even one of the aforementioned videos prior to the game the Oilers will win. Chalk one up for D'Amato, Oilers win 3-2.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers haven't scored at home in 182 minutes. They score in the first period, and combined with the first 8 p.m. Friday game that I can remember, the first intermission beer sales are the highest of the season.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Ilya Bryzgalov stops 33 shots in his AHL debut in a 4-1 victory. During the 2nd intermission the Oilers show highlights of the OKC victory and a few of Bryzgalov's saves. After the highlights, they play the clip of Bryzgalov saying he is only afraid of bears in the woods.   

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#51 Serious Gord
November 15 2013, 10:53PM
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Mike Wazowski wrote:

Disappointed to see the Oil lose again after a tough start but they didn't fold their tents and pushed back at the sharks. A decent effort and Dubey didn't have much chance on the goals tonight either.

Hopefully a win will come tomorrow night!

The game was over before the oil looked like they were trying. From my perspective the sharks had the game in the bag and let up. And Lo and behold as the game neared the end the sharks put the pillow over the oils face...

The result was never in doubt.

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#52 DSF
November 15 2013, 11:00PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

The game was over before the oil looked like they were trying. From my perspective the sharks had the game in the bag and let up. And Lo and behold as the game neared the end the sharks put the pillow over the oils face...

The result was never in doubt.

Important to remember the Sharks were playing their 3rd game in 4 nights and were on the 2nd game of a back to back.

They won the game in the first 30 minutes and then put it on cruise control.

And, if Couture had had any puck luck at all, the score would likely have been 6-1.

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#53 Drowning in Oil
November 15 2013, 11:13PM
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Mac T " Don't worry Kevin, I really see some improvements in the way the boys are playing".

KLowe " Who said anything about worrying, I can see a cup contender in this team, and I should know. I've won 6 you know".

Mac T " It is sure great to see how calm and collected Dallas is on that bench. Nothing seems to bother him".

KLowe " that is one thing I can honestly say about all of us in this organization, nothing bothers any of us. Darryl keeps signing our inflated cheques no matter what happens out there and because we ran this city 30 years ago, we have all the rope we would ever need".

Mac T " It is funny Kevin, it is almost like people forget we are the reason this city is currently called the city of champions. The fans should be grateful".

K Lowe " exactly, those no good their 2 losers. Only 2 more years and this rebuild will be complete."

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#54 fig pucker
November 15 2013, 01:42PM
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@jason isn't this what we do every year? watch our team play a pile of meaningless games and hope they come together as a team, hope that they learn from their mistakes and learn how to play a sound 2 way game? every year we plug a hole or two (ie this year face offs and for a while scoring five on five) only to have two more holes burst open (ie special teams and goaltending). it's like running on a treadmill, you never get anywhere. even if this group comleatly cleaned every aspect of their game up with the remainder of the season and it's meaningless games i have no confidence that they could carry it over to next season when the games matter. i know this rant sounds negitve, but we've all seen this movie to many times and what makes you think this time is any different? hire bill muray to advise us on how to end the groundhog day curse.

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#55 The Towel Boy
November 15 2013, 01:59PM
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NSOGDP:

Yakupov leads the field through two rounds at 9 under.

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#56 northof51
November 15 2013, 02:04PM
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Arc is not in the lineup?!?!?!?!

*sharpens pitchfork and dips torch in kerosene*

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#57 pkam
November 15 2013, 02:45PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

#PositiveThoughts

Oh ya, and a bonus positive item because it is positive Friday:

Horcoff didn't score against us in the last game versus Dallas - come on, that has to count for something!

Here is one

Horcoff 5.5M till 2014-15, so far 19 games 2G 3A 5 pts.

Larsen 1.025M till 2013-14, so far 6 games 1G 4A 5 pts.

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#58 dougtheslug
November 15 2013, 05:50PM
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DSF wrote:

So let me get this straight.

Arcobello has been the most consistent Oiler player during the first 20 game, playing well on both sides of the puck.

The Oilers send him down while keeping Will Acton on the roster.

Then, because Ference is unlikely to play, they call up Klefbom who has been pedestrian in OKC but he won't arrive until tomorrow so the Oilers are going to play THE SHARKS with 5 defensemen.

GOOD GRIEF!

Maybe my theory that Darryl Katz has got himself mixed up with Russian mafia, and the Oilers are involved in match fixing scheme isn't too far off.

Except they could dress their best roster against the Sharks and still probably lose. But they don't have to make it so obvious.

Either that, or Kevin Lowe just loves saying, "The Edmonton Oilers are proud to select, number one in the 2014 draft....."

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#59 DSF
November 15 2013, 07:56PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

Oilers 30th again.....They should just permanently attach that 30th on the logo somewhere and be done with it.

Half of what has been said about this team in the last 4 years has been accompanied by "30th" place or "last place" oilers.

They should make every Oiler players wear #30 until they make the playoffs.

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#60 120 stitches
November 16 2013, 12:26AM
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Another serious error in judgment by the current Oiler leadership. They arrogantly decide to incur the wrath of the Oiler fan base by demoting Arcobello to OKC in order to play Acton. Was it worth it for the 3 minutes and 45 seconds that Acton played? Eakins should have known better than to have a coach-son situation on a professional hockey team. Action should have been sent down to OKC 5 games ago when they started to bench him. The problem appears to be someone made the decision to tell him he could find a place to stay in Edmonton whereas Arcobello does not seem to have received a similar assurance even though it is clear by any standard he has played much better. The optics of this situation once again unfortunately reflect poorly on the Oiler organization.

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#61 DSF
November 15 2013, 02:11PM
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San Jose leads the league in shots/game at 36.7.

The Oilers, meanwhile, average 27.8.

Considering the poor relative quality of the Oilers' opposition in the first 20 games, we could see 40+ shots on goal from the Sharks tonight.

Unless Dubnyk is all world, this could get ugly.

How Hopkins, Gagner and Gordon match up against Thornton, Couture and Pavelski pretty much tells the tale.

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#62 JJ
November 15 2013, 02:32PM
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I love coming to Gregor's GDB because no matter how much we suck, we can always anticipate his prediction which is usually something along the lines of "3-2 Oilers". Loving the optimism Gregor, albeit semi-delusional. Dubnyk only letting in 2 tonight? To the Sharks? Suree...

My prediction: 4-0 Sharks to continue the shutout streak. Let's be realists here. Unlike MacT and the gang.

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#63 GTL
November 15 2013, 02:40PM
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Remember the good o'l daze when the only anger here was RB and his fist denial. Good times! ....A simpler time and place ... Now there's now... Thank you KL, its up there with Rob Ford!

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#64 EP
November 15 2013, 09:52PM
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Is it me, or does Craig Button look like Jughead from the Archie comics?

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#65 DSF
November 15 2013, 11:14PM
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Gene Principe ‏@GenePrincipe

I’ve seen Taylor Hall after almost every loss. I have never seen him like I just did.The kid cares a ton but the defeats are wearing on him.

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#66 Quicksilver ballet
November 15 2013, 11:16PM
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And all while Rome is burning, the GM pleads for yet more calm and patience. Where do they find these bozos....... 5 yrs later, and it's still the same ship different yr. Letting the players and management in this organization off the hook yet again.

We'll continue to get what we support. Only in Edmonton could a fringe hockey player get a 4.8 mulyi yr deal. The big shake up deal looks to be Klefbom in and Smid out it appears.

Love to see the fallout of a 6-0 Flames victory tomorrow.

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#67 DSF
November 15 2013, 11:28PM
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damnDuby wrote:

Yea and if the oil had any luck Smyth and whoever hit the post for use would have scored and it could have been 3-3. But check-mark for reaching.

Couture hit the post 4 times and still ended up with 8 SOG.

Smyth missed the net on that chance and had only 2 SOG.

In other news...Couture took 15 face-offs and won 12 of them...80%.

Hopkins, who went up against Couture took 17 face-offs and lost 12 of them...29%.

Thanks for coming out.

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#68 DSF
November 15 2013, 11:35PM
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Joanne Ireland ‏@jirelandEJ

In case you were wondering, Nail Yakupov's dad was in the stands. That's where the #Oilers winger was pointing after he had scored.

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#69 GTL
November 15 2013, 02:11PM
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Hoozonphirst wrote:

Katz' first mistake was hiring a blowhard sycophant like Stauffer. He seems to have elected himself sheriff of the Oiler 'Thought Police' The self confessed Tom Cruise look-a-like (WTF?) falls all over himself bragging himself up. Now he's telling fans who we are permitted to criticize regarding their effort. What a boob!

AGREED!!!!... I will not listen to one second of him. KL gives him the company newsletter and allows him to stroke himself and name drop all he wants..... Any trashes confirm HQ is listening;)

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#70 Loweblows
November 15 2013, 05:27PM
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I gather Arcobello is injured because only a complete idiotic buffoon would keep him out considering he has been one of our better 2 way players.

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#71 Johnnydapunk
November 15 2013, 08:29PM
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They just mentioned that Bryzgalov has been shelled for 5 goals on 24 shots, oh dear.....

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#72 Shooter
November 15 2013, 08:52PM
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I'm actually impressed it took that long for the Sharks to get those first 2 goals. If the Oilers can hold them to 2 goals per period for a 6-0 loss, let's build on that.

Good job Lowe. Doing great up there bud. You have earned your high paying job with a proven track record of success. Wait. No you haven't. You have proven you are horrible at your job. Wonder why you are still employed? Oh ya right. You are best buds with the owner.

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#73 RexHolez
November 15 2013, 09:16PM
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Can't teams just start spotting us 3 goals to start?? It's not fair!! every team tries and have professional players and stuff...

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#74 Stack Pad Save
November 15 2013, 10:41PM
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Poolanov wrote:

I have never hated Ferraro more than I do today

For being right?

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#75 Loyal Oil
November 15 2013, 10:42PM
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K. Lowe to McT: "umm, pal are you sure this is what progress looks like?"

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#76 LoweBlow
November 15 2013, 11:08PM
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Don't fool yourselves fellow posters. The Sharks did NOT play a good road game. That SJ dressingroom is going to be blasted after the game. They simply played down to the Oilers level for the second half of that game.

That was a pathetic loss. Simply put.

The fans that paid good money to go to that game should boo louder and chant their displeasure. That game was a disgrace. The only thing I wished for was a more embarrassing score. Maybe complete utter embarrassment will beckon change.

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#77 A-Mc
November 15 2013, 01:01PM
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Oilers lose 0-2 to continue the STINK on their way to a double shutout weekend!

The key to happiness is lowered expectations! So i'll be setting my expectations extremely low for the weekend =) (Tonight especially)

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#78 camdog
November 15 2013, 01:33PM
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Ed in Edmonton wrote:

If the Gagner-Hemsky-Yakupov line stays together for 3 periods, they may set some single game record for combine minus.

Agree with others comments that Eakins is sitting his best 2 way forward.

I expect San Jose will score 2 goals with this line on the ice, but maybe they score 1 goal and we won't set an nhl record for most consecutive minutes shutout on home ice in modern day NHL history.

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#79 Crooked
November 15 2013, 02:37PM
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It's probably not fair, but sitting Arcobello makes a bit of sense if you consider he's had points in just one of the past 10 games, and the team is desperate for scoring.

It also doesn't help he's been in all 20 games so far this season, and the team's only won 4 of them. Just 2 in regulation. They weren't winning with him in the line-up, can't hurt to see what happens without him.

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#80 Crackenbury
November 15 2013, 04:20PM
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Arcobello sent down so Klefbom can be brought up?

I'm officially on the can Eakins and MacTavish bandwagon! Absolutely brutal message to be sending to the team and any potential future acquisitions. They seem to be going out of their way to break the spirit of this team.

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#81 Dallylamma
November 15 2013, 04:22PM
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I wouldn't trust the Oilers management team to run a bath right now, let alone a pro-sports franchise.

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#82 BingBong
November 15 2013, 08:31PM
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I love Hall, but has one of those toe-drags ever worked?

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#83 Jerry
November 15 2013, 09:11PM
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This is not fair Oilers are playing a NHL team.

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#84 Serious Gord
November 15 2013, 11:05PM
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Sizzay wrote:

No excuse for back to back games. All teams go through it.

It was a high quality road win. That was textbook on how to play a second road game in as many days.

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#85 Gordie Wayne
November 15 2013, 02:02PM
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#PositiveThoughts

Oh ya, and a bonus positive item because it is positive Friday:

Horcoff didn't score against us in the last game versus Dallas - come on, that has to count for something!

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#86 A-Mc
November 15 2013, 02:40PM
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BingBong wrote:

So Matheson thinks the Preds would trade Weber for Eberle, J. Schultz & Gagner. I highly doubt it, but assuming this is true, then MacT should definitely be making that call.

Ooohhhh that would hurt. Eberle AND JSchultz? I know schultz hasn't had too many fans of late, but i think he'll figure out his D game and be a solid guy going forward.

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#87 Hemmercules
November 15 2013, 03:02PM
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Anyone know a good place to watch the Barons games online?? Might as see what Brys can do tonight.

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#88 Eulers
November 15 2013, 03:12PM
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GDP: Sharks devour the Oilers. Joe Thornton scores 4 goals and the whole world gets to see why he's called "Big Joe" !!!

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#89 Quicksilver ballet
November 15 2013, 07:04PM
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Flat out, Arcobello can do anything that 89 can do for this team, for only a fraction of the money. So what if you have to bump Mark up to 1-1.5 mill per on an extension next season. Gags has been replaced as this teams 3rd line center. That should be the end of that argument. Archo plays bigger than his frame would allow you to think, while Gagner plays smaller than his frame. Similar players but drastically different paycheques.

What we see here today is how fine the line is between the AHL, and Sam Gagner. It's unfortunate that Arco had the two way deal that made this at all possible. Would really suck if they lost him on waivers at any point. Arco makes Gagner very expendable.

7-2 Sharks. 30th could be all ours come Monday....YYYYESSSSS!

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#90 Tom
November 15 2013, 09:24PM
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Ha Ha Ha

Kevin Lowe is getting paid for his job

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#91 LoweBlow
November 15 2013, 10:47PM
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I'll be in Seattle for the Seahawks game this Sunday meaning that I won't be able to watch our mess of a team Saturday. I'm honestly relieved.

This team does not deserve such a loyal and loving fanbase.

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#92 6 ring circus
November 15 2013, 11:55PM
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If you haven't listened to Taylor Hall's post game interview you should,it's only a matter of time before some of the players start asking for trades out of town,the fans are tired of losing and the players are tired of losing,Katz,K Lowe and Mac T only know how to lose,their ownership and management record speaks for itself.It's time that there is a major overhaul, Edmonton hockey fans deserve a way better hockey team than this mess we have been watching and supporting for the past 8 season's.

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#93 BingBong
November 15 2013, 01:55PM
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Ed in Edmonton wrote:

Hard to believe this is real. But if it is MacT should do it in a nanosecond.

I like Matheson, but he also suggested we should sign Whitney to a multi-year deal this past off-season. So, yeah.

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#94 Taylor Hall's Knee Brace
November 15 2013, 02:20PM
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Gregor the eternal optimist picks the Oil to win again...which means they lose..Gregor's predictions are as good as the Oilers record!

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#95 Alsker
November 15 2013, 04:35PM
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So they're going to expose Klefbom to this mess. The new shiny toy to parade out infront of the masses. All hail Lord 6 Rings, he gives us another saviour......Is there no depths this management team will not stoop to in hopes of pulling the wool over our eyes. If Katz is honestly oblivious to all this bs then I guess he deserves what is to come. Pitchforks, sickles and torches 109 st + Kingsway. Time TBA.

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#96 Spydyr
November 15 2013, 04:43PM
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I'm in the market for a new ball cap. For the first time in over 30 years I'm not even considering getting an Oilers one.Team Canada sounds about right.At least we can cheer for a good team then.Also it is only a little more then a month to the World Juniors.It will be refreshing to see and cheer for a team that plays with heart and passion.

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#97 Spydyr
November 15 2013, 05:29PM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

Arco to OKC!!! MacT must be doing drugs!

Any Rob Ford in Edmonton sightings?

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#98 dougtheslug
November 15 2013, 05:39PM
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pkam wrote:

You have at least ignore 3 major factors.

1st. The team was healthier last year than this year. We have 117 man games lost after 20 games, we have 118 man games lost over 48 games last year.

In last year, 48 man games were going to Andy Suton. So we actually lost 70 man games over the entire year. And the major ones (top 6 forward and top 4 defense) are 7 games to RNH, 1 game to Hall, 10 games to Ales Hemsky. So 18 man games to core players. And most of the games lost to Hemsky and RNH are in the last quarter of the season. So we were pretty much injury free for the first 36 games.

This year, we have lost 2 game to RNH, 13 games to Gagner, 7 games to Hall, 4 games to Perron, and 5 games to J. Schultz. So far 31 man games to core players in 20 games.

2nd, compare to last year, our goaltending is terrible this year. I can but I don't think I have to quote you the stats to prove it. I don't know how you can blame the head coach to poor goaltending. Actually, our SA/G is the best in 4 years. Last year was the worst.

3rd, poor S%. Actually our S/G is the highest in 4 years, a shot per game more than last 3 years. I don't have the number but I believe we have more post in 20 games than we had in 48 games last year. And post don't even count as shots on goal.

Last year, we have many games that we were outplayed but came out with a win. This year after 20 games, we only have one game like that, the Senators. But we have many games that we outplayed the opponents but ended up losing.

Injury, low shooting % (plus post), and poor goaltending are the major reasons for our poor result this year. And I don't know how you can blame those factors on coaching.

As Mark Twain said, "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics". You can use all the excuses you can muster, the fact is the Oilers haven't been able to ice a competitive team for the better part of a decade, and despite all the promises and statistical bafflegab, this year is a major step backward.

I was at the Detroit game. It was the worst performance I have ever witnessed by an Oiler team. I watched the Dallas game. After a couple of close calls in the first period, the Oilers never even looked like they were going to come close to scoring. They had zero offensive zone pressure and were stranded in their own zone by the Stars for long stretches of time. It was pathetic. They are visibly worse this year then they have ever been, and we were told it wouldn't be like this

As Charlie Brown famously told Lucy in a Peanuts cartoon many years ago, "Tell your statistics to shut up."

The only statistic I care about is the place in the standings. And it says dead last.

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#99 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
November 15 2013, 06:42PM
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Kinda funny that your telling how the rest of a non playoff season should hopefully go Gregor.

Every Oiler fan knows this drill by heart. Hell Sixrings is a pro at this stuff.

Well at least everyone responsible gets to keep their very high paying jobs and continue to offer no value for the dollars being spent upon them.

Unskilled management that has spent 7+ years screwing up a rebuild get to continue to screw up. Poorly evaluating talent. Not actually building a farm system. Saying we can trade middle of the road defencemen cause we have lots of depth... by the way does mact and lowe understand the saying "A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush"

We get to hear from the media how much value hemsky and gagner are gonna have at trade deadline.

Mact will tell us gems like there needs to be continuity in the head coach position yet he fired the lastguy after one year and was part of the management team that hired him in the first place.

There is no plan, No real hope until a real hockey man gets put in charge.

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#100 Alsker
November 15 2013, 07:54PM
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Total epic fck up by MacTBlowe, we lose Arco to OKC based on contracts to make room for Kbom. Well maybe the should mount a camera on Gags helmut, the ice level shot from our blueline of the sharks swarming our net would look pretty cool Im sure. Really hope Craig comes with the name of the position 89 plays cause it is NOT 2C,1C,3C,2RW,2LW or checking forward. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh, beer simply does not help anymore, the baffoons need to put out of our misery. QSB I truly think you're being optimistic 7-2 Sharks?? What in the 2nd?

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