GDB 21.0: STARTING OVER

Jason Gregor
November 15 2013 12:30PM

The Oilers enter the second quarter of their season tonight vs. the San Jose Sharks. The first quarter had disastrous results, and cost them a playoff spot. The management, coaches and players can't look at it that way, playoffs being a pipe dream, but a 4-14-2 start has them 15 points out of the playoffs.

The remainder of this season will be about understanding the system, learning to compete, not just working hard, every shift and hopefully the bitter taste and stench of losing will motivate the players to never be in this situation again.

The Oilers must use the next 62 games to build the foundation of continuity and winning. If they want to become winners, they must be committed to the system, their teammates and themselves.

The Oilers are showing signs of improvement in some areas of their game.

Despite going 0-for-5 last game the Oilers PP is 25% in their last eight games. Their PK has killed off 25 of the last 26 powerplays, 96.3%, over their past eight games.

Many will say the Oilers haven't improved enough because they aren't winning, and that is valid. However, the Oilers can't  solve all their problems over night. These next 20 games will be a test of their character and inner strength. Do they have willpower and focus to concentrate on the next game and not pout or worry about the previous 20? Have they learned that they need to play smarter, faster, stronger and with move conviction in order to win?

We won't know until December 29th. That is when they will have played half the season. Can this team stick together, play hard and become competitive? The next quarter of the season will show us a glimpse of whether or not they can execute the system, or if they have the guts to go to the net consistently,  or if they have the intestinal fortitude to try and stop opposing teams from going to the net and the internal desire to finally learn how to win.

The 2nd quarter of the season could show us a lot about which players should be here long-term.

DIFFERENT APPROACH...

If I was Andrew Ference, I would sit the team down and show them some of the great inspirational/motivational speeches from movies. Hockey is a game. You can inject some humour into the game. Try and get the players to relax, inhale and recognize that it isn't life or death.

For some reason our society thrives on negativity too often. Yes, the first 20 games were f^@#*&()*) embarrassing. But whining and focusing on it every day isn't going to change that. Learn from it. Challenge them to be better, and maybe have some fun doing it.

Here are some examples. Guys love this stuff. I know watching these clips made me laugh and they got me fired up.

I'd start with something light... 

"That's what were here for guys, to win." I freaking love that line. Makes me laugh every time...

Most sports movies have a dramatic scene that usually leads to the team bonding or that shows an individual realizing they need to work harder. We eat this stuff up. We love it, and that's why we watch those movies over and over again.

Ference could show them this one. (fast forward to 1:40 to the quicksand speech.) 

"You're playing and you think everything is going fine. Then one thing goes wrong. And then another. And another. You try to fight back, but the harder you fight, the deeper you sink. Until you can't move... you can't breathe... because you're in over your head. Like quicksand." Shane Falco

That could resonate with many Oilers right now. They have had numerous things go wrong...but they can't let it paralyze them.

Then I'd show them this one. It is fitting since the Sharks are in town. (actual words start at 2:00)

For some laughs I'd follow it up with this one. This kid is great.

Then, I would play the greatest sports speech of all-time. I don't care what sport you play, whether you are playing beer league, the NHL, NFL or road hockey this scene/speech will get your blood flowing. 

Eakins could play this one.

"I can't make you do it....Either we heal now as a team, or we will die as individuals...Now what are you going to do?"

Tony FREAKING D'Amato (Pacino) would have made a great coach.

I would leave them with this one.  

I understand the need to talk systems and strategy, but sometimes you simply need to tap into the emotions of the players, and in this case, with the loyal citizens of Oilersnation.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov
Smyth-Gordon-Perron
Joensuu-Acton-Jones/Gazdic

Ference-Petry
Belov-Larsen
N.Schultz-Potter

Dubnyk

Sitting Arcobello is perplexing. I don't get it. He has been solid offensively, defensively and on the PK. 

The Sharks are playing their third game in four nights. They defeated the Flames Tuesday and the Canucks last night, both times in OT. Fatigue

The Sharks have three players averaging a point-a-game. Thornton and Pavelski have 20 points in 19 games, while Logan Couture has 19 in 19. Patrick Marleau has 18 points and Tomas Hertl has 17. The Oilers will face Alex Stalock. He has won both of his starts, and he has a dazzling 0.946 SV% and 1.57 GAA.

GAME DAY PREDICTION: On paper this is an easy choice, the Sharks should dominate, however, it is Positive Friday and if Ference showed even one of the aforementioned videos prior to the game the Oilers will win. Chalk one up for D'Amato, Oilers win 3-2.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers haven't scored at home in 182 minutes. They score in the first period, and combined with the first 8 p.m. Friday game that I can remember, the first intermission beer sales are the highest of the season.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Ilya Bryzgalov stops 33 shots in his AHL debut in a 4-1 victory. During the 2nd intermission the Oilers show highlights of the OKC victory and a few of Bryzgalov's saves. After the highlights, they play the clip of Bryzgalov saying he is only afraid of bears in the woods.   

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#101 vetinari
November 15 2013, 09:18PM
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Could we sign SJ's goalpost to be our starting goaltender?

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#102 Walter Sobchak
November 15 2013, 09:25PM
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Jesus they still won't put Yakupov on the first PP?

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#103 Stack Pad Save
November 15 2013, 09:30PM
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Yakupov screams at his coach "HEY Coach you promised IGOR that you would let me have some PP time get me out their coach I'll produce"

Eakins mulls it over and says "I guess I did promise Igor, out you go Yak."

Goal... Yakupov follows the Goal up with a cele that only he and Kevin Lowe understand

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#104 madjam
November 15 2013, 10:57PM
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History in the making ? We could actually get worse by replacing an underachieving Gm and coach and actually get much worse .Watching them continually lose is getting to be more satisfying and fun to watch than if this misfit squad actually wins a game . The persuit of futility is rewarding is it not ? Lose Oilers Lose and get skunked by the Flames - make us all proud . Mauybe some reverse psychology might wake them up from upstairs to ice .

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#105 DSF
November 15 2013, 11:09PM
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Sizzay wrote:

No excuse for back to back games. All teams go through it.

Yes they do.

But they won easily, why would they need an excuse?

Jason Strudwick ‏@Struds1260

The sharks are playing 3 in 4 nights and are flying. WOW. Every line skates hard and forechecks. Pretty impressive.

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#106 Gordie Wayne
November 15 2013, 01:59PM
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Jason Gregor's truest line in the article:

"For some reason our society thrives on negativity too often."

In other words: "Why you heff to be negative?"

The comments section of this site has become far too negative and depressing in the past couple of weeks.

The fans of this team need to start sending out some positive vibes. From now on, I am going to post one positive item regarding the Oilers on every article posted here. I challenge the rest of you to do this too...

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#107 pkam
November 15 2013, 03:15PM
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pkam wrote:

Forget to mention Larsen is 12 years younger. Horcoff 35, Larsen 23.

Almost forget we also have a 7th round pick as well from that trade. Hopefully MacT can pull another Greg Chase.

Oh yea, Greg Chase, 7th round pick, 13G and 10A total 23 pts in 19 games, another positive.

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#108 Pucker
November 15 2013, 05:03PM
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Arcobello ??

I don't like that this small forward was arguably the Oiler's consistantly hardest working, most dependable player, but he was arguably the Oiler's consistantly hardest working, most dependable player . . . why??

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#109 DSF
November 15 2013, 06:26PM
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pkam wrote:

Are you comparing last year to this year too?

Through 48 games last year the Oilers gave up 134 goals.

They’ve given up 75 through 19. Now, I'm not a math wizard but I'm willing to bet that the Oilers through 48 games give up more goals then 134.

Through 48 games last year as you mentioned the Oilers sat 12, through 48 games this year my guess is the Oilers will sit 29th possible 30th.

You said "I also never said anything about Ralph or Dallas, I'm simply comparing statistic."

So what statistics are you comparing? Just win and lost and standing? So injury, shooting percentage and save percentage are not statistics? A team can play better and lose, can't they? Penguins dominated the Avs and outshot them 42-18 and lost 1-0. So Penguins played terrible that game?

You also said "You can argue till your blue in the face that it’s not coaching but even the most diehard Oiler fan has to concede that coaching hasn’t been great ether."

I am just arguing that the majority of the problems that contributing to our loss is not the coach's fault. The team isn't any worse than last year despite we face all the injures to our core players. As far as I know, coaches don't shoot the puck and don't tend the goal.

The team IS worse than last year by almost any measure.

1) Goaltending (needs no explanation.)

2) PP (has dropped from 20.1% to 16.9%)

3) 5V5F/A (has dropped from 0.90 to 0.57)

4) Goal differential (has dropped from -9 to a projected -123)

5) Goals/game (has dropped from 2.56 to 2.35)

6) Goals against/game (up from 2.56 to 3.85!)

The Oilers are getting 1 more shot for per game but remember that last season ALL their games were against WC opponents while this season they have played 14 games against weaker EC opponents and only 8 against the stronger WC.

That folks is a train wreck of monumental proportions.

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#110 YFC Prez
November 15 2013, 07:49PM
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DSF wrote:

Buffalo wins.

Oilers 30th.

Oilers 30th again.....They should just permanently attach that 30th on the logo somewhere and be done with it.

Half of what has been said about this team in the last 4 years has been accompanied by "30th" place or "last place" oilers.

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#111 Loweblows
November 15 2013, 07:53PM
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Watch them let arco go for nothing- he will turn into a career 3 rd line centre , have a long career and probably score a number of goal against us over the next decade. Why do we need Arco when we have Keith oops I mean Will Acton on our team, he is so much better than Arco. LOL THIS ORGANIZATION IS RUN BY MONKEYS!!

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#112 YFC Prez
November 15 2013, 07:58PM
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@Alsker

When your an oilers fan Rum or Whiskey is the new beer.

Anything less than 80 proof just won't get you through the game.

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#113 YFC Prez
November 15 2013, 08:13PM
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Wow they assigned Arco...Sweet baby Jebus that's mind perplexingly stupid!?

He's tied for the lead in rookie scoring, wins draws and is one of the 2 forwards along with Gordon who can play defence...I though he was just sitting for a game, that would be dumb in itself... this is level 9 stupid!

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#114 Tokenhill
November 15 2013, 08:51PM
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ONLY 2:0 after first period!!!! ladies and gents. oilers is improving. Sending Acro down is now looking like such a brilliant move. plan the parade!

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#115 Serious Gord
November 15 2013, 09:18PM
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A Shakespearean tragic comedy...

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#116 Darren
November 15 2013, 09:31PM
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That was an amazing shot by Yakupov, it looked like he hit it in the air and got all of it.

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#117 dougtheslug
November 15 2013, 10:11PM
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Oh well, when the tiering round is over we might get tiered down so we can play some teams at our skill level....oh wait this isn't my sons bantam team I'm watching...

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#118 Serious Gord
November 15 2013, 10:55PM
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steelymac wrote:

Anyone who thinks Eakins isnt a vindictive prick look no further than the difference in ice between Smyth and Yak and that was long before the bogus 4 minute penalty.

High stick. Drew blood. Four minutes. No doubt about it.

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#119 Quintana
November 15 2013, 10:55PM
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Well now let's talk whats really important Ekblad or Reinhart?

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#120 Dog Train
November 15 2013, 02:00PM
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I can only think of two forwards who seemed to have a pulse last game- Smyth and Arcobello. Arco is sitting this one out? We are blessed with the privilege of watching Gagner do nothing but watch the puck go in his net all night? Whatever, the lack of accountability on this team is nothing new.

Bryzgalov should have plenty of motivational speeches for the team when he arrives. If nothing else, he should hopefully lighten the mood around here.

Positive Friday so miracle of all miracles, Oilers win 4-3.

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#121 ThatButthurtOilersFan
November 15 2013, 04:04PM
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It absolutely boggles my mind that they sent down Arcobello. He's one of the hardest working players one the team, plus he's ten times better than Acton and Gagner combined. Ok, maybe a bit of a stretch, but my point is that you don't send down one of your best players. Who are they going to send down next, Yakupov? I can't wait to here Eakins/MacT's excuse for this.

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#122 pkam
November 15 2013, 04:51PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Through 48 games last year the Oilers gave up 134 goals.

They’ve given up 75 through 19. Now, I'm not a math wizard but I'm willing to bet that the Oilers through 48 games give up more goals then 134.

Through 48 games last year as you mentioned the Oilers sat 12, through 48 games this year my guess is the Oilers will sit 29th possible 30th.

We have virtually the same players as last year, and yet one could argue we got better positional players this year.

The PK has been worse while so has the PP.

You can argue till your blue in the face that it’s not coaching but even the most diehard Oiler fan has to concede that coaching hasn’t been great ether.

You have at least ignore 3 major factors.

1st. The team was healthier last year than this year. We have 117 man games lost after 20 games, we have 118 man games lost over 48 games last year.

In last year, 48 man games were going to Andy Suton. So we actually lost 70 man games over the entire year. And the major ones (top 6 forward and top 4 defense) are 7 games to RNH, 1 game to Hall, 10 games to Ales Hemsky. So 18 man games to core players. And most of the games lost to Hemsky and RNH are in the last quarter of the season. So we were pretty much injury free for the first 36 games.

This year, we have lost 2 game to RNH, 13 games to Gagner, 7 games to Hall, 4 games to Perron, and 5 games to J. Schultz. So far 31 man games to core players in 20 games.

2nd, compare to last year, our goaltending is terrible this year. I can but I don't think I have to quote you the stats to prove it. I don't know how you can blame the head coach to poor goaltending. Actually, our SA/G is the best in 4 years. Last year was the worst.

3rd, poor S%. Actually our S/G is the highest in 4 years, a shot per game more than last 3 years. I don't have the number but I believe we have more post in 20 games than we had in 48 games last year. And post don't even count as shots on goal.

Last year, we have many games that we were outplayed but came out with a win. This year after 20 games, we only have one game like that, the Senators. But we have many games that we outplayed the opponents but ended up losing.

Injury, low shooting % (plus post), and poor goaltending are the major reasons for our poor result this year. And I don't know how you can blame those factors on coaching.

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#123 Greg the Hammer Valentine
November 15 2013, 05:18PM
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I know a lot of people here think the Oil should stick with Eakins no matter what. Ok, I get the argument for that.

But lets pretend I was falsly accused of murder and there is a chance I could spend my life in jail.

I get a first lawyer. That lawyer doesn't have time for my case and wants me to plead guilty. I can't do that 'cause I'm innocent. So I get a second lawyer. That second lawyer is so good, that he is named judge. I have to get a third lawyer. When I first go in his office, that third lawyer convinces me he is good enough. However, after a few weeks of watching him work my file, I find he's totally incompetent.

Should I keep lawyer number 3 in the name of continuity and low cost? Of course not. I could end up in jail for the rest of my life because of that idiot.

It's the same with Eakins. Now I'll admit that the jury is still out on him. But for how long? If things do not improve substantially by mid-season and the front-office decides Eakins isn't doing the job, then the argument that "we changed coach too many times" doesn't hold up.

Sure, good franchises have continuity. But their front-offices usually get it right in the first place. If Eakins can't turn things around, I don't know what makes him immune to being sacked. That being said, I wish him to succeed.

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#124 6 ring circus
November 15 2013, 07:07PM
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I am going to the game tonight,I have a bad feeling that it's going to turn out bad for the Oiler's.If it does, I will be the one in section 232, shouting out FIRE KEVIN LOWE!!!! Hopefully other fans will join in.

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#125 Ari Gold
November 15 2013, 09:12PM
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Boy oh boy did Belov not read that 3 on 2 properly. This Oiler lineup is pathetic.

I find myself actually hoping and almost cheering for the Sharks to light up our Oil. The more embarrassing it gets, the closer it gets us to some true 'bold' changes.

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#126 Zamboni Driver
November 15 2013, 09:19PM
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Whoever in the hell that was that made that stupid pass on the 3-on-1 should be cut.

I'm not joking and don't care if it's Hall.

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

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#127 exsanguinator
November 15 2013, 09:24PM
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Poll on NHL.com, "how many goals will the Oilers score at home tonight?"

Zero is winning.

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#128 Stack Pad Save
November 15 2013, 09:46PM
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Eakins "Good period boys. We broke the 3 game shutout, mission 1 accomplished...who got the goal, I wasn't watching, there was this guy in the stands and I thought he was mouthing me a suggestion on who to play next shift so I was listening."

Smyth responds "I think that new guy scored Larinov or Belov, I dunno he was Russian Coach, definately a Russian."

Yakupov leans over to Belov "what they say?"

Belov responds "I can't heer, I have been watchen my favourite Polka tunes on Ipod for last 5 minutes, nice Goal, how you get them guys to pass to you?"

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#129 Reg Dunlop
November 15 2013, 10:28PM
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It could be that SJ is tired or that they called off the dogs early OR it could be that the Oilers finally started to understand how they have to play to get a few wins. Another moral victory, or have my expectations sunk so low that tonight's game seemed pretty good effort-wise.

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#130 dave
November 15 2013, 10:42PM
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@Ari Gold

and your a pacified kool aid drinker watching this bread and circus and ol bobby staufer the knob gobbler and the rest of the game are getting your hard earned money so keep drinking kool aid lol

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#131 Zamboni Driver
November 15 2013, 10:54PM
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Aaaaaand there it is.

Someone who really appreciates a good Ales-coast show.

The important thing. Being one of the leaders, he'll be there answering every, single tough question...

Oh...wait. I'm being told Ales has a 'thing' he has already left for.

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#132 Ari Gold
November 15 2013, 10:58PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

By soft players you mean.....

....the entire Edmonton Oilers, I assume?

That's right. The ENTIRE team is soft. There's no jam in their game. Smyth used to have it but he's got osteoporosis or something now. Perron could be that guy but the whole team has simply lost faith. It's not a lack of confidence, they just don't believe in this team anymore.

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#133 DSF
November 15 2013, 11:30PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Yup.

The kid had no points.

Tyler Seguin was okay yesterday though, no?

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

Tyler Seguin?

The Tyler Seguin who is on pace for nearly 50 goals and 90 points?

Never heard of him. 😀

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#134 Wonger
November 15 2013, 02:36PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

Exactly what kind of message is the coach sending to the team, and the fans by sitting the most productive offensive, defensive, and physical player we have in Arcebello?

For those who can see what is happening , this coach seem to have 22 deaf players.

Yea coaching is not our problem.

It is way past time to move one or three of the "stars?" out! Let's get some SIZE, GRIT and NASTINESS into this line up! I agree! EAKINS and MACT are not the problem! They are the solution! Eberle, J. Schultz, Gagner, Hemsky, Yakupov, Potter, Petry, N. Schultz, Flubnyk, LaBarbera, Larsen are the problem! CLEAN HOUSE!!!! I don't want anybody coming back, at any position except goal, that is under 6'3" 225LBS, averages less than 1 PIM per game played, and who hasn't had to attend ANGER MANAGMENT sessions because they can't handle LOSING! Simmonds, Ott, Lucic, etc. are the type of sweethearts the Oilers need desparately. PAY THE PRICE AND MAKE IT HAPPEN MACT!!!! ETEM, PRUST, T. JACKMAN, FOLIGNO, MAROON, NEIL, STEWART, REAVES, etc. etc. etc.!!!

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#135 Bob
November 15 2013, 02:46PM
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JJ wrote:

I love coming to Gregor's GDB because no matter how much we suck, we can always anticipate his prediction which is usually something along the lines of "3-2 Oilers". Loving the optimism Gregor, albeit semi-delusional. Dubnyk only letting in 2 tonight? To the Sharks? Suree...

My prediction: 4-0 Sharks to continue the shutout streak. Let's be realists here. Unlike MacT and the gang.

Yet he says he's not an Oiler fan, doesn't make a lot of sense...

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#136 Oilspill
November 15 2013, 02:54PM
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Gregor. What's with the GDP? Is that a joke?

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#137 Walter Sobchak
November 15 2013, 04:00PM
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Zarny wrote:

No, coaching isn't the problem.

With Krueger last year, they finished 12th and were falling at the end of a 48 game season.

They weren't one win away from the Stanley Cup.

The problem is the players on the ice...or more specifically a lack of good players on the ice.

Through 48 games last year the Oilers gave up 134 goals.

They’ve given up 75 through 19. Now, I'm not a math wizard but I'm willing to bet that the Oilers through 48 games give up more goals then 134.

Through 48 games last year as you mentioned the Oilers sat 12, through 48 games this year my guess is the Oilers will sit 29th possible 30th.

We have virtually the same players as last year, and yet one could argue we got better positional players this year.

The PK has been worse while so has the PP.

You can argue till your blue in the face that it’s not coaching but even the most diehard Oiler fan has to concede that coaching hasn’t been great ether.

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#138 dougtheslug
November 15 2013, 06:05PM
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DSF wrote:

"lex parsimoniae"

Incompetence is the simplest answer.

Probably. But it strains credulity that professionals can be so completely out of touch.

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#139 Walter Sobchak
November 15 2013, 06:48PM
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@pkam

You are talking like this is some kind of anomaly, that some how this was a one off year, a bad break, it's been going on for a decade!

I really don't care about the coach's, statistics or injuries. W/L it's all that matters, by my eye the Oilers have more L and are worse then the previous 8 years.

And yes, the coach's have to eat some of that.

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#140 DSF
November 15 2013, 07:08PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Flat out, Arcobello can do anything that 89 can do for this team, for only a fraction of the money. So what if you have to bump Mark up to 1-1.5 mill per on an extension next season. Gags has been replaced as this teams 3rd line center. That should be the end of that argument. Archo plays bigger than his frame would allow you to think, while Gagner plays smaller than his frame. Similar players but drastically different paycheques.

What we see here today is how fine the line is between the AHL, and Sam Gagner. It's unfortunate that Arco had the two way deal that made this at all possible. Would really suck if they lost him on waivers at any point. Arco makes Gagner very expendable.

7-2 Sharks. 30th could be all ours come Monday....YYYYESSSSS!

30th could be realistic in 4 hours.

Buffalo is leading Toronto in the 3rd period.

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#141 Spydyr
November 15 2013, 07:10PM
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You know what would be bold?

Scoring a goal on home ice this month.

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#142 120 stitches
November 15 2013, 08:19PM
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The lack of judgment in demoting Arcobello is further exacerbated when you examine why this occurred. It is difficult to comprehend why a NHL team is not carrying an extra defenseman on its active roster when it's farm team is at least 2 flights away. . For instance, these days it is not uncommon for players to be injured in pre game drills. This is another example of this organization's lack of attention to detail. As I understand it, there was a risk they were going to start the game with 5 defencemen. That should never happen at this level of hockey.

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#143 vetinari
November 15 2013, 09:28PM
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A goal???? We're allowed to have one of those?

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#144 RexHolez
November 15 2013, 09:33PM
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@Batfink

We're gonna play Dubby and Bryzgalov in net at the same time right? Just play with 2 forwards? Is that cool?

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#145 Zamboni Driver
November 15 2013, 11:16PM
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@DSF

Yup.

The kid had no points.

Tyler Seguin was okay yesterday though, no?

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

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#146 albertaboy19
November 16 2013, 12:44AM
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I'm embarrassed to be an oiler fan. Booing the team, honestly is disgusting. Why boo and make the situation worse when they have no confidence already and they aren't deciding on what personnel should be here and who should be coaching. Make a statement to Katz and management by not showing up to the games. Booing is pathetic and punishes the players not the owner.

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#147 Danger Pay
November 15 2013, 12:55PM
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Great Article, love the Pacino Speech!

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#148 pkam
November 15 2013, 02:52PM
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pkam wrote:

Here is one

Horcoff 5.5M till 2014-15, so far 19 games 2G 3A 5 pts.

Larsen 1.025M till 2013-14, so far 6 games 1G 4A 5 pts.

Forget to mention Larsen is 12 years younger. Horcoff 35, Larsen 23.

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#149 JJ
November 15 2013, 03:06PM
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PS.. Glad to see they sent the bastard Arco back down to OKC. He might be doing well, but good, tough teams, especially in the west, would have this guy helping out the farm.

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#150 A-Mc
November 15 2013, 03:36PM
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Greenlingj wrote:

Arcobello sent down... Klefbom called up...

WHY AND WHY!

Klefbom is in a fragile state rookie dman coming into a ship that is burning... fans are a pressure cooker waiting to boil over...

Arcobello is an amazing two way player... small but unreal with what he has done with his time here.

Accountability goes both ways just like HOCKEY MAC T..

Lets remove someone who is producing and bring up another young player with no back end experience.

From the sounds of it, Mac T was always intending Klefbom to be the Smid upgrade. A Big body that can skate really well and can make excellent first passes. Smid was shipped out, so perhaps that is what opens the door for klefbom.

Also: to be fair, Klefbom played with men in Sweden so he's not as far behind the curve as you may think. sure the game is a different pace and is played differently, but in terms of Klefbom being able to handle his own physically, He should be fully capable of doing so already. if he's tasked with a simple game of pegging guys to the boards and keeping guys to the outside, he could work really well.

I'd rather see klefbom up here than Potter.

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