GDB 21.0: STARTING OVER

Jason Gregor
November 15 2013 12:30PM

The Oilers enter the second quarter of their season tonight vs. the San Jose Sharks. The first quarter had disastrous results, and cost them a playoff spot. The management, coaches and players can't look at it that way, playoffs being a pipe dream, but a 4-14-2 start has them 15 points out of the playoffs.

The remainder of this season will be about understanding the system, learning to compete, not just working hard, every shift and hopefully the bitter taste and stench of losing will motivate the players to never be in this situation again.

The Oilers must use the next 62 games to build the foundation of continuity and winning. If they want to become winners, they must be committed to the system, their teammates and themselves.

The Oilers are showing signs of improvement in some areas of their game.

Despite going 0-for-5 last game the Oilers PP is 25% in their last eight games. Their PK has killed off 25 of the last 26 powerplays, 96.3%, over their past eight games.

Many will say the Oilers haven't improved enough because they aren't winning, and that is valid. However, the Oilers can't  solve all their problems over night. These next 20 games will be a test of their character and inner strength. Do they have willpower and focus to concentrate on the next game and not pout or worry about the previous 20? Have they learned that they need to play smarter, faster, stronger and with move conviction in order to win?

We won't know until December 29th. That is when they will have played half the season. Can this team stick together, play hard and become competitive? The next quarter of the season will show us a glimpse of whether or not they can execute the system, or if they have the guts to go to the net consistently,  or if they have the intestinal fortitude to try and stop opposing teams from going to the net and the internal desire to finally learn how to win.

The 2nd quarter of the season could show us a lot about which players should be here long-term.

DIFFERENT APPROACH...

If I was Andrew Ference, I would sit the team down and show them some of the great inspirational/motivational speeches from movies. Hockey is a game. You can inject some humour into the game. Try and get the players to relax, inhale and recognize that it isn't life or death.

For some reason our society thrives on negativity too often. Yes, the first 20 games were f^@#*&()*) embarrassing. But whining and focusing on it every day isn't going to change that. Learn from it. Challenge them to be better, and maybe have some fun doing it.

Here are some examples. Guys love this stuff. I know watching these clips made me laugh and they got me fired up.

I'd start with something light... 

"That's what were here for guys, to win." I freaking love that line. Makes me laugh every time...

Most sports movies have a dramatic scene that usually leads to the team bonding or that shows an individual realizing they need to work harder. We eat this stuff up. We love it, and that's why we watch those movies over and over again.

Ference could show them this one. (fast forward to 1:40 to the quicksand speech.) 

"You're playing and you think everything is going fine. Then one thing goes wrong. And then another. And another. You try to fight back, but the harder you fight, the deeper you sink. Until you can't move... you can't breathe... because you're in over your head. Like quicksand." Shane Falco

That could resonate with many Oilers right now. They have had numerous things go wrong...but they can't let it paralyze them.

Then I'd show them this one. It is fitting since the Sharks are in town. (actual words start at 2:00)

For some laughs I'd follow it up with this one. This kid is great.

Then, I would play the greatest sports speech of all-time. I don't care what sport you play, whether you are playing beer league, the NHL, NFL or road hockey this scene/speech will get your blood flowing. 

Eakins could play this one.

"I can't make you do it....Either we heal now as a team, or we will die as individuals...Now what are you going to do?"

Tony FREAKING D'Amato (Pacino) would have made a great coach.

I would leave them with this one.  

I understand the need to talk systems and strategy, but sometimes you simply need to tap into the emotions of the players, and in this case, with the loyal citizens of Oilersnation.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hemsky-Gagner-Yakupov
Smyth-Gordon-Perron
Joensuu-Acton-Jones/Gazdic

Ference-Petry
Belov-Larsen
N.Schultz-Potter

Dubnyk

Sitting Arcobello is perplexing. I don't get it. He has been solid offensively, defensively and on the PK. 

The Sharks are playing their third game in four nights. They defeated the Flames Tuesday and the Canucks last night, both times in OT. Fatigue

The Sharks have three players averaging a point-a-game. Thornton and Pavelski have 20 points in 19 games, while Logan Couture has 19 in 19. Patrick Marleau has 18 points and Tomas Hertl has 17. The Oilers will face Alex Stalock. He has won both of his starts, and he has a dazzling 0.946 SV% and 1.57 GAA.

GAME DAY PREDICTION: On paper this is an easy choice, the Sharks should dominate, however, it is Positive Friday and if Ference showed even one of the aforementioned videos prior to the game the Oilers will win. Chalk one up for D'Amato, Oilers win 3-2.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers haven't scored at home in 182 minutes. They score in the first period, and combined with the first 8 p.m. Friday game that I can remember, the first intermission beer sales are the highest of the season.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Ilya Bryzgalov stops 33 shots in his AHL debut in a 4-1 victory. During the 2nd intermission the Oilers show highlights of the OKC victory and a few of Bryzgalov's saves. After the highlights, they play the clip of Bryzgalov saying he is only afraid of bears in the woods.   

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#51 Alsker
November 15 2013, 07:54PM
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Total epic fck up by MacTBlowe, we lose Arco to OKC based on contracts to make room for Kbom. Well maybe the should mount a camera on Gags helmut, the ice level shot from our blueline of the sharks swarming our net would look pretty cool Im sure. Really hope Craig comes with the name of the position 89 plays cause it is NOT 2C,1C,3C,2RW,2LW or checking forward. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh, beer simply does not help anymore, the baffoons need to put out of our misery. QSB I truly think you're being optimistic 7-2 Sharks?? What in the 2nd?

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#52 damnDuby
November 15 2013, 11:18PM
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@DSF

Yea and if the oil had any luck Smyth and whoever hit the post for use would have scored and it could have been 3-3. But check-mark for reaching.

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#53 Rob F
November 15 2013, 12:41PM
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They should get Jimmy Johnson to give them the Jacksonvill Jaguars pre game speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNAqcom3zaY

Imagine if he actually meant it...

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#54 kawi460
November 15 2013, 12:57PM
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I know that hockeys not all about dropping the mitts. But I don't see the toughness or compete on the oilers roster. They don't show much emotion, especially when things go bad.

The Avs were playing like crap and they let their emotion boil over. Scrums all over, lots of hitting and trash talk. Duchene even dropped the mitts. I'm just saying it would be nice to see the Oil to compete for every puck battle and when things are going so well maybe start letting that emotion out on someone.

Maybe a bar room brawl is what the oil need?

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#55 A-Mc
November 15 2013, 01:01PM
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Oilers lose 0-2 to continue the STINK on their way to a double shutout weekend!

The key to happiness is lowered expectations! So i'll be setting my expectations extremely low for the weekend =) (Tonight especially)

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#56 Ron Burgundy
November 15 2013, 01:14PM
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The answer has been there all along - sign the Hansens.

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#58 JJ
November 15 2013, 03:25PM
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JohnDoe wrote:

I'm thinking if Edmonton trades Eberle than Hall will want to go to. Those two are butt buddies!

Hall and Eberle I'm on the fence if trading them is a good idea.. Snowpants, Schultz, need to be gone. Arco to OKC or try to get something from a trade.

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#59 tileguy
November 15 2013, 03:28PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

Oilers send down Marc Arcobello to OKC . Second best face off man, most responsible forward, one of their leading pointgetters. And keep the coaches son, a career minor leaguer going nowhere, on the roster. This team gets harder and harder to care about

Maybe they are saving money like they did with Smid.

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#60 A-Mc
November 15 2013, 03:36PM
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Greenlingj wrote:

Arcobello sent down... Klefbom called up...

WHY AND WHY!

Klefbom is in a fragile state rookie dman coming into a ship that is burning... fans are a pressure cooker waiting to boil over...

Arcobello is an amazing two way player... small but unreal with what he has done with his time here.

Accountability goes both ways just like HOCKEY MAC T..

Lets remove someone who is producing and bring up another young player with no back end experience.

From the sounds of it, Mac T was always intending Klefbom to be the Smid upgrade. A Big body that can skate really well and can make excellent first passes. Smid was shipped out, so perhaps that is what opens the door for klefbom.

Also: to be fair, Klefbom played with men in Sweden so he's not as far behind the curve as you may think. sure the game is a different pace and is played differently, but in terms of Klefbom being able to handle his own physically, He should be fully capable of doing so already. if he's tasked with a simple game of pegging guys to the boards and keeping guys to the outside, he could work really well.

I'd rather see klefbom up here than Potter.

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#61 A-Mc
November 15 2013, 03:56PM
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Interesting stat: Bryzgalov has had as many or more shutouts in 1 season than Dubnyk has had in his entire career, 3 times.

Bryz SO's:
2009 - 8 SO
2010 - 7 SO
2011 - 6 SO

Devan Dubnyk - 6 SO in his entire career.

Bryz Career SO: 30
Duby Career SO: 6

Also, Bryzgalov has only had a losing record during 1 season (2008) where he went 26-31-6. He has had a winning record in every other season of his career.

"So you're saying there's a #Chance !? "

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#62 Crackenbury
November 15 2013, 04:20PM
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Arcobello sent down so Klefbom can be brought up?

I'm officially on the can Eakins and MacTavish bandwagon! Absolutely brutal message to be sending to the team and any potential future acquisitions. They seem to be going out of their way to break the spirit of this team.

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#63 Naky
November 15 2013, 04:37PM
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@A-mc

Wow, I didn't know Bryzgalov got all those shutouts playing for the Oilers, the perennial worst team in the league with the league's worst d-corps for several years straight. That's amazing! I, too, like to assume that every statistic is equal and every situation is the same.

So if you couldn't tell, I'm saying your numbers are borderline worthless. Sorry to burst your bubble though.

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#64 pkam
November 15 2013, 04:51PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Through 48 games last year the Oilers gave up 134 goals.

They’ve given up 75 through 19. Now, I'm not a math wizard but I'm willing to bet that the Oilers through 48 games give up more goals then 134.

Through 48 games last year as you mentioned the Oilers sat 12, through 48 games this year my guess is the Oilers will sit 29th possible 30th.

We have virtually the same players as last year, and yet one could argue we got better positional players this year.

The PK has been worse while so has the PP.

You can argue till your blue in the face that it’s not coaching but even the most diehard Oiler fan has to concede that coaching hasn’t been great ether.

You have at least ignore 3 major factors.

1st. The team was healthier last year than this year. We have 117 man games lost after 20 games, we have 118 man games lost over 48 games last year.

In last year, 48 man games were going to Andy Suton. So we actually lost 70 man games over the entire year. And the major ones (top 6 forward and top 4 defense) are 7 games to RNH, 1 game to Hall, 10 games to Ales Hemsky. So 18 man games to core players. And most of the games lost to Hemsky and RNH are in the last quarter of the season. So we were pretty much injury free for the first 36 games.

This year, we have lost 2 game to RNH, 13 games to Gagner, 7 games to Hall, 4 games to Perron, and 5 games to J. Schultz. So far 31 man games to core players in 20 games.

2nd, compare to last year, our goaltending is terrible this year. I can but I don't think I have to quote you the stats to prove it. I don't know how you can blame the head coach to poor goaltending. Actually, our SA/G is the best in 4 years. Last year was the worst.

3rd, poor S%. Actually our S/G is the highest in 4 years, a shot per game more than last 3 years. I don't have the number but I believe we have more post in 20 games than we had in 48 games last year. And post don't even count as shots on goal.

Last year, we have many games that we were outplayed but came out with a win. This year after 20 games, we only have one game like that, the Senators. But we have many games that we outplayed the opponents but ended up losing.

Injury, low shooting % (plus post), and poor goaltending are the major reasons for our poor result this year. And I don't know how you can blame those factors on coaching.

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#65 Jay
November 15 2013, 05:32PM
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There's a game tonight? Makes me happy to know Im not wasting time watching this pitiful and worthless team

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#66 DSF
November 15 2013, 05:44PM
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So let me get this straight.

Arcobello has been the most consistent Oiler player during the first 20 game, playing well on both sides of the puck.

The Oilers send him down while keeping Will Acton on the roster.

Then, because Ference is unlikely to play, they call up Klefbom who has been pedestrian in OKC but he won't arrive until tomorrow so the Oilers are going to play THE SHARKS with 5 defensemen.

GOOD GRIEF!

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#67 6 ring circus
November 15 2013, 07:07PM
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I am going to the game tonight,I have a bad feeling that it's going to turn out bad for the Oiler's.If it does, I will be the one in section 232, shouting out FIRE KEVIN LOWE!!!! Hopefully other fans will join in.

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#68 Mike Wazowski
November 15 2013, 08:28PM
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@Walter Sobchak

Stamkos was injured in the last couple of nights, if I'm not mistaken. A little different than several weeks of Hall out. Plus first in the east puts them just right around the playoff cut line in the west.

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#69 Zamboni Driver
November 15 2013, 10:49PM
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@YFC Prez

Not a prob - don't know that it's caught on judging from the 'trashes' normally associated with my saying it.

For me - Tinman = Hemsky

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#70 LoweBlow
November 15 2013, 10:58PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

By soft players you mean.....

....the entire Edmonton Oilers, I assume?

That's right. The ENTIRE team is soft. There's no jam in their game. Smyth used to have it but he's got osteoporosis or something now. Perron could be that guy but the whole team has simply lost faith. It's not a lack of confidence, they just don't believe in this team anymore.

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#71 Bloodsweatandoil
November 16 2013, 12:06AM
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Damn.......just got home from my son's Bantam game in Rimbey. Was hoping to come home to a closer result. Did the Oilers play tough at least?

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#72 Danger Pay
November 15 2013, 12:55PM
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Great Article, love the Pacino Speech!

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#73 Ed in Edmonton
November 15 2013, 01:13PM
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If the Gagner-Hemsky-Yakupov line stays together for 3 periods, they may set some single game record for combine minus.

Agree with others comments that Eakins is sitting his best 2 way forward.

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#74 Hoozonphirst
November 15 2013, 01:52PM
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Katz' first mistake was hiring a blowhard sycophant like Stauffer. He seems to have elected himself sheriff of the Oiler 'Thought Police' The self confessed Tom Cruise look-a-like (WTF?) falls all over himself bragging himself up. Now he's telling fans who we are permitted to criticize regarding their effort. What a boob!

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#75 mlcselli
November 15 2013, 01:56PM
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The decisions being made from the bench keep getting worse There is on justifiable or reasonable explanation to sit Arco except that he is being traded. Nothing else makes sense to me unless he has an injury. Barring an injury, if the Oilers trade him, they need to be strung up.

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#76 Dog Train
November 15 2013, 02:00PM
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I can only think of two forwards who seemed to have a pulse last game- Smyth and Arcobello. Arco is sitting this one out? We are blessed with the privilege of watching Gagner do nothing but watch the puck go in his net all night? Whatever, the lack of accountability on this team is nothing new.

Bryzgalov should have plenty of motivational speeches for the team when he arrives. If nothing else, he should hopefully lighten the mood around here.

Positive Friday so miracle of all miracles, Oilers win 4-3.

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#77 madjam
November 15 2013, 02:01PM
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How can you expect to solve all our problems of seven plus years overnight ? Geez , sorry for not being patient/understanding enough ? Their sorry arse excuse is like one flew over the cookoo's nest -in one ear and out the other . Not that they are slow , but they can't figure out even whether we are better than last year yet . They say we are , but results prove otherwise . Things might get slightly better only because they cannot get much worse !

Oilers 5-3 tonite , as Sharks cannot be taking us serious .

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#78 Gordie Wayne
November 15 2013, 02:02PM
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#PositiveThoughts

Oh ya, and a bonus positive item because it is positive Friday:

Horcoff didn't score against us in the last game versus Dallas - come on, that has to count for something!

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#79 GTL
November 15 2013, 02:11PM
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Hoozonphirst wrote:

Katz' first mistake was hiring a blowhard sycophant like Stauffer. He seems to have elected himself sheriff of the Oiler 'Thought Police' The self confessed Tom Cruise look-a-like (WTF?) falls all over himself bragging himself up. Now he's telling fans who we are permitted to criticize regarding their effort. What a boob!

AGREED!!!!... I will not listen to one second of him. KL gives him the company newsletter and allows him to stroke himself and name drop all he wants..... Any trashes confirm HQ is listening;)

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#80 Dave "Killer" Carlson
November 15 2013, 02:15PM
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Told myself I wasn't watching until they started playing with some motivation and effort. Clearly hasn't happened yet - first step is scoring a goal at home maybe?.

TV stays off tonight.

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#81 Taylor Hall's Knee Brace
November 15 2013, 02:20PM
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Gregor the eternal optimist picks the Oil to win again...which means they lose..Gregor's predictions are as good as the Oilers record!

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#82 pkam
November 15 2013, 02:45PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

#PositiveThoughts

Oh ya, and a bonus positive item because it is positive Friday:

Horcoff didn't score against us in the last game versus Dallas - come on, that has to count for something!

Here is one

Horcoff 5.5M till 2014-15, so far 19 games 2G 3A 5 pts.

Larsen 1.025M till 2013-14, so far 6 games 1G 4A 5 pts.

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#83 Bob
November 15 2013, 02:46PM
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JJ wrote:

I love coming to Gregor's GDB because no matter how much we suck, we can always anticipate his prediction which is usually something along the lines of "3-2 Oilers". Loving the optimism Gregor, albeit semi-delusional. Dubnyk only letting in 2 tonight? To the Sharks? Suree...

My prediction: 4-0 Sharks to continue the shutout streak. Let's be realists here. Unlike MacT and the gang.

Yet he says he's not an Oiler fan, doesn't make a lot of sense...

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#84 Mac962
November 15 2013, 02:59PM
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So is it ridiculous to perhaps have Big Boyd Gordon play centre on either the first or second line ? He may be the only one big enough to deal with Jumbo Joe. Yes, he is not really offensive gifted, but does it really matter. We need another Boyd and 2 more Perrons.

Sam should be getting 3rd line minutes right now and go against weaker [ if there is such a thing] sharks players.

Eakins said players who play well , will be rewarded with more minutes, i think Boyd deserves a shot in the top 6.

i Dont know if this game scares me more or tomorrow in craptown. I dont expect the Oil to win tonight but tomorrow, i damn right expect them to win.

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#85 dougtheslug
November 15 2013, 03:24PM
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Oilers send down Marc Arcobello to OKC . Second best face off man, most responsible forward, one of their leading pointgetters. And keep the coaches son, a career minor leaguer going nowhere, on the roster. This team gets harder and harder to care about

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#86 A-Mc
November 15 2013, 04:11PM
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@Walter Sobchak

A couple things:

1. The oilers finished 24th overall last year, 12th in the conference. So we're talking about a drop from 24 to 29/30, not 12th

2. The coaching is DIFFERENT. There is always an adjustment period when you experience change. When Ralph came in, he didn't change much due to not having a training camp and already being a part of the system the previous 2 years. Like Gregor has stated, over the last 8 game stretch, the Oilers Special teams has been good so it's likely the adjustment period is over with (for the most part).

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#87 Alsker
November 15 2013, 04:15PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

Oilers send down Marc Arcobello to OKC . Second best face off man, most responsible forward, one of their leading pointgetters. And keep the coaches son, a career minor leaguer going nowhere, on the roster. This team gets harder and harder to care about

He was making Gagner look bad.

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#88 Dallylamma
November 15 2013, 04:22PM
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I wouldn't trust the Oilers management team to run a bath right now, let alone a pro-sports franchise.

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#89 TonyT
November 15 2013, 05:07PM
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Oilers assigned Arcobello!?!?!?

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#90 Spydyr
November 15 2013, 05:28PM
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Oilers assign Arcobello and recall Klefbom.The only thing i got on this is "the braintrust" feel the Oilers are out of the playoff race so they might as well give OKC a chance to make it.This is starting to get surreal.

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#91 Spydyr
November 15 2013, 05:29PM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

Arco to OKC!!! MacT must be doing drugs!

Any Rob Ford in Edmonton sightings?

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#92 Taylor Gang
November 15 2013, 05:36PM
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Greg the Hammer Valentine wrote:

I know a lot of people here think the Oil should stick with Eakins no matter what. Ok, I get the argument for that.

But lets pretend I was falsly accused of murder and there is a chance I could spend my life in jail.

I get a first lawyer. That lawyer doesn't have time for my case and wants me to plead guilty. I can't do that 'cause I'm innocent. So I get a second lawyer. That second lawyer is so good, that he is named judge. I have to get a third lawyer. When I first go in his office, that third lawyer convinces me he is good enough. However, after a few weeks of watching him work my file, I find he's totally incompetent.

Should I keep lawyer number 3 in the name of continuity and low cost? Of course not. I could end up in jail for the rest of my life because of that idiot.

It's the same with Eakins. Now I'll admit that the jury is still out on him. But for how long? If things do not improve substantially by mid-season and the front-office decides Eakins isn't doing the job, then the argument that "we changed coach too many times" doesn't hold up.

Sure, good franchises have continuity. But their front-offices usually get it right in the first place. If Eakins can't turn things around, I don't know what makes him immune to being sacked. That being said, I wish him to succeed.

Nice analogy, especially with the word play with "jury is out".

Having said that, bear in mind we haven't really gotten a chance to see what the entire roster is actually capable of. Think about it: at least one quality roster player has been injured in every game. Also worth noting is that Dubnyk has probably singehandedly cost us 3-5 games, give or take, that we should have won. So I wouldn't say Eakins is completely to blame, though I do agree that he hasn't made much of a case for himself.

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#93 dougtheslug
November 15 2013, 05:39PM
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pkam wrote:

You have at least ignore 3 major factors.

1st. The team was healthier last year than this year. We have 117 man games lost after 20 games, we have 118 man games lost over 48 games last year.

In last year, 48 man games were going to Andy Suton. So we actually lost 70 man games over the entire year. And the major ones (top 6 forward and top 4 defense) are 7 games to RNH, 1 game to Hall, 10 games to Ales Hemsky. So 18 man games to core players. And most of the games lost to Hemsky and RNH are in the last quarter of the season. So we were pretty much injury free for the first 36 games.

This year, we have lost 2 game to RNH, 13 games to Gagner, 7 games to Hall, 4 games to Perron, and 5 games to J. Schultz. So far 31 man games to core players in 20 games.

2nd, compare to last year, our goaltending is terrible this year. I can but I don't think I have to quote you the stats to prove it. I don't know how you can blame the head coach to poor goaltending. Actually, our SA/G is the best in 4 years. Last year was the worst.

3rd, poor S%. Actually our S/G is the highest in 4 years, a shot per game more than last 3 years. I don't have the number but I believe we have more post in 20 games than we had in 48 games last year. And post don't even count as shots on goal.

Last year, we have many games that we were outplayed but came out with a win. This year after 20 games, we only have one game like that, the Senators. But we have many games that we outplayed the opponents but ended up losing.

Injury, low shooting % (plus post), and poor goaltending are the major reasons for our poor result this year. And I don't know how you can blame those factors on coaching.

As Mark Twain said, "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics". You can use all the excuses you can muster, the fact is the Oilers haven't been able to ice a competitive team for the better part of a decade, and despite all the promises and statistical bafflegab, this year is a major step backward.

I was at the Detroit game. It was the worst performance I have ever witnessed by an Oiler team. I watched the Dallas game. After a couple of close calls in the first period, the Oilers never even looked like they were going to come close to scoring. They had zero offensive zone pressure and were stranded in their own zone by the Stars for long stretches of time. It was pathetic. They are visibly worse this year then they have ever been, and we were told it wouldn't be like this

As Charlie Brown famously told Lucy in a Peanuts cartoon many years ago, "Tell your statistics to shut up."

The only statistic I care about is the place in the standings. And it says dead last.

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#94 Taylor Gang
November 15 2013, 05:50PM
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DSF wrote:

So let me get this straight.

Arcobello has been the most consistent Oiler player during the first 20 game, playing well on both sides of the puck.

The Oilers send him down while keeping Will Acton on the roster.

Then, because Ference is unlikely to play, they call up Klefbom who has been pedestrian in OKC but he won't arrive until tomorrow so the Oilers are going to play THE SHARKS with 5 defensemen.

GOOD GRIEF!

Yeah it's almost like Acton is related to one of t...

Never mind

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#95 dougtheslug
November 15 2013, 05:50PM
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DSF wrote:

So let me get this straight.

Arcobello has been the most consistent Oiler player during the first 20 game, playing well on both sides of the puck.

The Oilers send him down while keeping Will Acton on the roster.

Then, because Ference is unlikely to play, they call up Klefbom who has been pedestrian in OKC but he won't arrive until tomorrow so the Oilers are going to play THE SHARKS with 5 defensemen.

GOOD GRIEF!

Maybe my theory that Darryl Katz has got himself mixed up with Russian mafia, and the Oilers are involved in match fixing scheme isn't too far off.

Except they could dress their best roster against the Sharks and still probably lose. But they don't have to make it so obvious.

Either that, or Kevin Lowe just loves saying, "The Edmonton Oilers are proud to select, number one in the 2014 draft....."

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#96 DSF
November 15 2013, 05:55PM
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Todd wrote:

Its a paper shuffle. In the real world there are CBA issues real people have to follow. I'm sure its too much to ask you to do 30 seconds of educating yourself before you flap your face.

Other players could have been "paper shuffled" and not be missed in the lineup.

The Oilers could have sent down Acton or Jones without any fear they would be claimed and, quite frankly, who would care if they were?

Is it too much to ask you to apply some critical thinking before pulling the trigger on your pea shooter?

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#97 DSF
November 15 2013, 06:26PM
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Are you comparing last year to this year too?

Through 48 games last year the Oilers gave up 134 goals.

They’ve given up 75 through 19. Now, I'm not a math wizard but I'm willing to bet that the Oilers through 48 games give up more goals then 134.

Through 48 games last year as you mentioned the Oilers sat 12, through 48 games this year my guess is the Oilers will sit 29th possible 30th.

You said "I also never said anything about Ralph or Dallas, I'm simply comparing statistic."

So what statistics are you comparing? Just win and lost and standing? So injury, shooting percentage and save percentage are not statistics? A team can play better and lose, can't they? Penguins dominated the Avs and outshot them 42-18 and lost 1-0. So Penguins played terrible that game?

You also said "You can argue till your blue in the face that it’s not coaching but even the most diehard Oiler fan has to concede that coaching hasn’t been great ether."

I am just arguing that the majority of the problems that contributing to our loss is not the coach's fault. The team isn't any worse than last year despite we face all the injures to our core players. As far as I know, coaches don't shoot the puck and don't tend the goal.

The team IS worse than last year by almost any measure.

1) Goaltending (needs no explanation.)

2) PP (has dropped from 20.1% to 16.9%)

3) 5V5F/A (has dropped from 0.90 to 0.57)

4) Goal differential (has dropped from -9 to a projected -123)

5) Goals/game (has dropped from 2.56 to 2.35)

6) Goals against/game (up from 2.56 to 3.85!)

The Oilers are getting 1 more shot for per game but remember that last season ALL their games were against WC opponents while this season they have played 14 games against weaker EC opponents and only 8 against the stronger WC.

That folks is a train wreck of monumental proportions.

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#98 Walter Sobchak
November 15 2013, 06:48PM
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@pkam

You are talking like this is some kind of anomaly, that some how this was a one off year, a bad break, it's been going on for a decade!

I really don't care about the coach's, statistics or injuries. W/L it's all that matters, by my eye the Oilers have more L and are worse then the previous 8 years.

And yes, the coach's have to eat some of that.

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#99 Quicksilver ballet
November 15 2013, 07:04PM
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Flat out, Arcobello can do anything that 89 can do for this team, for only a fraction of the money. So what if you have to bump Mark up to 1-1.5 mill per on an extension next season. Gags has been replaced as this teams 3rd line center. That should be the end of that argument. Archo plays bigger than his frame would allow you to think, while Gagner plays smaller than his frame. Similar players but drastically different paycheques.

What we see here today is how fine the line is between the AHL, and Sam Gagner. It's unfortunate that Arco had the two way deal that made this at all possible. Would really suck if they lost him on waivers at any point. Arco makes Gagner very expendable.

7-2 Sharks. 30th could be all ours come Monday....YYYYESSSSS!

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#100 Greg the Hammer Valentine
November 15 2013, 07:10PM
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@reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)

Couldn't agree more. And the Flames got Brian Burke now.

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