SKID HALTED

Brian Sutherby
November 17 2013 08:33AM

It's only one win, against a team that isn't very good but it was nice to see some fire and the Oilers offense come to life in the third period. This team needs any positive energy they can get these days and who better to start with than the Flames?

It’s going to take way more than one good period to fix this squad and for 40 minutes it looked like every other game this season but they pulled it out.

BAD

The first period was not the type of period you would expect to see from a team that should be desperate for wins. For a good part of the first 40 minutes the Flames had control of the game. Both Flames goals were once again a direct result of turn overs.

For whatever reason the importance of making strong plays with the puck and keeping it out of the middle of the ice in your own end doesn’t quite resonate with this group. The defensemen were especially soft with the puck and if it wasn't for Dubnyk, many more giveaways could have easily ended up in their net.

GOOD

I really liked Gazdic’s fight tonight. The anti-fighting crowd will say “oh it was just another staged fight and served no purpose.”

I thought this was a great message to his team. Gazdic is tough but he’s not Brian McGrattan tough and I think most of the Oilers players would agree. Instead of hoping for a quiet game, he initiates a tilt with one of the toughest guys in the league and hangs in there for a very spirited scrap.

Did he win?

Probably not, but he didn’t lose. By his actions, he says to his bench that he’s willing to step up and challenge someone much bigger in his role. If he can do it, everyone else should be able to ask a little more of themselves.

When I saw guys do things like that, whether it was a guy fighting someone he probably shouldn’t or a skill guy out of his element blocking a shot or taking a run at someone, it made me want to do more. It makes guys look at themselves in the mirror and say if he’s willing to give more, why can’t I?

FERENCE

On most nights the only physical element (hitting and fighting) in the Oilers lineup has been Gazdic. I was waiting and hoping for someone other than Gazdic to step up and say enough is enough.

The players talk after every game of frustration and anger, yet we’ve never really seen anyone show it on the ice or channel it in an aggressive way. I really wanted to see someone you wouldn’t expect get pissed off. Run someone, slash someone or just yell at someone.  It’s not in the make-up of many of these players but finally someone did.

Ference gets hit twice in one shift and instead of rolling over, he got up and cleaned Stempniak's clock. There has not been near enough push back in any form of physicality with this group, but it was great to see last night. Good on the Captain.

DUBNYK

As mentioned above, he bailed his boys out on several occasions. It was a very solid game from him. You need your goalies to make a big save or two in any game, he did that tonight.

THIRD PERIOD

This was arguably their best period of the season. You could see the jump the Eberle goal gave them. It seemed like a weight was lifted off their backs. After his goal they completely took over. The offensive production came from all the players you would expect.

The way they generated their opportunities was the key for me. They created a ton off the cycle, they were more physical and they sustained pressure in the offensive zone for most of the third. That has rarely happened all season.

WINNING

Losing sucks no matter who you are and going through skids like this is just awful as a player and miserably hard on fans. It seems like no matter what you do on the ice; it’s just not good enough to get a winning result.

They still have a long way to go and I don’t think one period means anything but at least something positive went their way for the first time in a long time.

Look at the emotion after the third period goals, all of these guys want to win. It’s just a matter of figuring out how with this group.

Finding consistency is next.

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#1 Fresh Mess
November 17 2013, 10:00AM
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Ferrence's actions were disgusting. He attacked a dazed and unwilling participant and caused him injury. He was hit cleanly and reacted with cowardly assault. I expect him to be suspended.

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#2 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 09:30AM
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The gadzic fight - while entertaining was of nil value to the game. The oil sucked for another period and a half after it.

The Ference "fight" was execrable. Stempniak hit him clean and was injured hitting the boards. He clearly didn't want to fight yet Ference took advantage. He should be fined or suspended. And this fight also happened thirty minutes before the oil rallied.

And the rally was just as much a credit to the flames running out of gas and lack of scoring talent - how many missed opps did they have?!

The slump has been broken and there is a faint flicker of optimism. They play a very weak Columbus next who have lost 3 in a row. A win moves the optimism level higher. A loss puts them back in the well of despair again.

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#3 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 10:09AM
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Hockey Problems wrote:

Somebody needs a hug, or... A poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

A lot of oilers fanbots need a dose of reality today...

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#4 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 10:55AM
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lucky wrote:

You read the article? Maybe read who wrote it.

Odd I didn't see him on the oilers roster...

He's an ex-player.

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#5 Fresh Mess
November 17 2013, 05:11PM
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Dockstaff wrote:

Perhaps you should switch to Figure Skating or Tennis? You clearly don't have the stomach for hockey... at least nothing higher than Pee-Wee!

Perhaps you should stick to WWF, or UFC shows. You clearly don't have the desire/ability to evolve beyond that element of society.

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#6 pkam
November 17 2013, 12:12PM
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Spydyr wrote:

When was the last time Nuge or Ebs took a run at someone?

Did Stempniak take a run at Ference? I thought that is a clean hit.

So it ia okay if we throw a clean hit, but it is a run if it is against us?

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#7 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 10:14AM
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Batfink wrote:

LOL, like Emery was suspended? I'll be sure to forward your concern to Mr. Shananananahanhan. You have obviously never played sport of any kind, just admired from afar. How do you know Stempniak's mouth wasn't writing cheques his a55 couldn't cover? The hit was clean but an excuse for retribution. You don't always get to see the real reasons, the chirping, the little slashes, butt ends, little dirty plays that fly under the radar. That was probably why you never saw anybody come to Stempniak's aid. There are very few players in the NHL who take malicious delight in just punching someone for no apparent reason.

Jeez, the outrage bus has been started, is filling up and being revved to the max this morning.

Had the flames scored to make it 3-0 instead of the oil scoring to make it a one goal game I suspect that there would have been retribution meted out on Ference or some other oiler.

Since that didn't happen it will wait for the next game.

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#8 RexHolez
November 17 2013, 04:16PM
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What's with all the dubnyk love? He's the reason this team started off the rails and put this team into a tail spin! Who cares if be can put up average numbers after the season is over.... Again... He's not a quality number 1 like this team needs! Can't wait for Breezy

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#9 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 12:33PM
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BiG eLmO wrote:

Pessimistic much there, Gordie ?

A realist. That the oil struggled to beat the flames should have been an embarrassment.

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#10 pkam
November 17 2013, 01:07PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Yes , it is hockey.The NHL is a mans game defend yourself at all times. Look at Stortini's fights. Good old Huggy bear. If your gonna get tuned hang on for dear life.Even the renowned pugilist Gagner has been in a few scraps.Gretzky too.

I agree if it is a dirty hit or a run like you said. But beat a guy for throwing a clean hit? Why don't we beat a buy that score on us too?

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#11 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 10:51AM
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HugThePost wrote:

sure, what Ferrence did to Stepniak might not have been 100% alright, but we at one point had a captain here who also did pretty dirty things to lay claim to his area on the ice (#11) and he is a deity in these parts for all parts of his game.

Messier was suspended more than ten times - if i recall correctly - during an era that was far more lenient on acts of egregious violence. Under the current eras rules ference should be disciplined. I doubt he is destined for deity status.

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#12 pkam
November 17 2013, 12:00PM
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@blue31

Can't agree with you more.

Just imagine if Eberle or RNH hits an opponent player and get some teeth knocked out even if he does want to engage in the fight.

If we were the receiving end of that incident, pretty sure those cheer for this fight will be calling that a crime.

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#13 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 01:37PM
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Hair bag wrote:

You're a tool....that's like saying a retired doctor knows nothing about medicine or health anymore because he's out of the industry - well I guarantee he knows a lot more than you, a retired hockey player is no different. Are you Mr. Negative in all aspects of your life.....are you a know-it-all everywhere else too. Don't worry the sky isn't really falling on your head you can stop walking around like a troll.

The retired player had little better perspective than I or you on what happened regarding team morale on the bench last night. And the nearly thirty minute gap between the fights and the goal (and cgy scored one in the second and the scots were essentially tied in the second) would Favour my opinion - not yours.

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#14 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 10:35AM
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Pete wrote:

I'll take the opinion of a player about what a fight can do to energize a bench, rather than a consistently negative poster who thinks he knows every thing.

Ference should be suspended? Congrats on the dumbest comment of the year. Stempniak wasn't injured hitting the boards, get your eyes checked.

So when Dubnyk makes saves it is because the other team can't score. But when Edmonton can't finish it is the forward's fault or the other goalie is great. Typical speak out of both sides of your mouth comment from you.

You are constantly negative. Do yourself a favour and try to enjoy a game. Feel sorry for people like you.

So who was the player who said it rallied the team?

Stempniak looked shaken up after hitting the boards - i saw it and the CBC commentators both in cgy and in toronto noted it.

Never said anything about dubnyk. But he did say after the game he got a lot of posts...

I intend to hold the oil to a high standard. You should do the same.

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#15 blue31
November 17 2013, 11:30AM
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Mark me down as not happy with what Ferrence did. I get that the team is frustrated, but knocking out a guys teeth because he made a good, legal check crosses a line. Stepniak did nothing wrong. Did not want to fight.

How many people here defending Ferrence also defended Sean Avery sucker punching Laddy Smid?

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#16 pkam
November 17 2013, 12:30PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Every hit is subjective but it looked like Ference thought it was. If it was me I would of too.

About time someone stood up and knocked out some chiclets .

So it is okay to you if Eberle or RNH get a few teeth knocked out or even a concussion after throwing a clean hit because the other guy thinks he got run?

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#17 Cynic
November 17 2013, 11:37AM
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The Ference assault was in the first period. But somehow it ralled the boys to a 3rd-period comeback? Retarded hockey fans are retarded.

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#18 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 04:27PM
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Dave wrote:

Yes, I have heard Serious Gord on the radio many times pretending to be a in the know hockey insider. A high-brow version of Daily Doug.

Never, ever have i put myself forth as a hockey insider. You must be a very poor listener.

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#19 15w40
November 17 2013, 08:41AM
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They say never to critique a win - they won, good for them, they should be happy.

Let's be honest, that win would only happen against calgary or a team like them.

Hopefully it kick starts something but 20 minutes of OK hockey and 40 minutes of watching your goalie try and preserve a chance of coming back is not a recipe for success.

Given that 2 of the 3 goals would be considered fluke or bad.

Still a fan, just not going to resume the koolaid consumption quite yet.

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#20 pkam
November 17 2013, 01:03PM
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nrXic wrote:

Let me tell you what the Ference fight was a great play on a hockey level, but also on a level that relates to us in our everyday lives in terms of how we, as human beings, succeed or fail in our lives.

In fact, the fight by Ference could and should be labeled as "riveting" and "inspirational".

First off, Ference was reaching for a puck and was extremely vulnerable. Stumper took advantage of Ference in this dangerous position and delivered a shoulder to Ference's head.

A shot to the head, what is the response from the team? There wasn't any.

Ference takes matters into his own hands.

In this, there is a life lesson for all of us.

Stumper didn't want to fight. Ference rag-dolled him around, attempting to get Stumps to own up to his actions, something Stumps didn't want to do.

Many times in life, people will attempt to take advantage of you when you are in a precarious situation, and they do. Once you confront them, they will never own up to what they've done.

Ference made him own up to it.

With Stumper flailing all over the place, it seemed a fight was unlikely. Ference simply never took "no" as an option. It appeared fate said, "no fight tonight" and Ference was like, "I don't care what Fate or Destiny says, I'm taking what is mine!".

At that point, Fate resigned to Ference's will.

Stumps was felled after Ference, through force, made him accept the consequences of what he had done.

What was so movingly beautiful about this incident, was that after this point, no other Flames player took a run at an Oiler for the rest of the game.

No Oiler was, from that point on, was taken advantage of when they were in an awkward position. The Flames then thought twice about their actions, because they knew deep down inside that they would have to own up to it.

Such as in life, if you set a precedent in standing up for yourself, people will take notice and think twice about wronging you.

So. Message sent. Message received. This was the first game of a season series. Take a run at us, and you'll have to admit it.

"Intimidation" is a reality of the game that isn't measured by stats, not even advanced stats, but one that affects hockey plays and the game. Ference should be getting a lot more credit for this play, in my eyes.

That is a clean shoulder to shoulder hit. He didn't jump and didn't lift his elbow and didn't target Ference head. You can spin all you want, I have watched the video replay many times. If you are interested to watch it again, here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcACqn1exm8

Stempniak didn't hit Ference at his head even though Ference put his head down and himself in a vulnerable position. Can't blame Stempniak for your own stupidity.

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#21 DSF
November 17 2013, 03:54PM
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I would imagine Andrew Ference has a date with Brian McGratton next time these teams play.

Had the score not been close last night, Ference would likely be a little battered and bruised today after an unprovoked attack on a woozy player who didn't want to fight.

Mark December 7th on your calendar.

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#22 pkam
November 17 2013, 01:29PM
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nrXic wrote:

His upper arm, right between his elbow and shoulder (closer to the shoulder), made contact with Ference's head.

The video clearly demonstrates the point of contact, but also, the complete follow through of Ference's head that experienced whiplash. Pause the video at 0:25 and you'll see Ference's head snap back. This would not occur if the hit made contact to the shoulder, collar, or chest.

This is all proven in the video, and absolutely nothing you can say, barring the claim that Pixar created that scene and it didn't actually happen, that will change the reality the footage captured.

Secondly, I find it interesting that you are ADMITTING that Ference was in a vulnerable position, which was the crux of my argument.

The Oilers being taken advantage of, when being vulnerable, is the main issue here.

Stumper taken to task on taking advantage of a vulnerable player, is exactly what we should all be happy about.

Both Ference and Stempniak were going for the puck.

Stempniak didn't jump, he didn't extend his elbow out, if Ference didn't put his head down, it will be a clean shoulder to shoulder hit. How is it Stempniak's fault that Ference put his head down? So what should Stempniak do? Stop and give the puck to Ference because he put his head down?

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#23 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 03:34PM
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Hair bag wrote:

I don't really know what you are trying to say here, but I think the gist of it is that there is a time limit on when players can find inspiration from the actions of their teammates....really!?! Is it not possible that someone stood up in the room in the second intermission and said, ' look at Cap and Gaz laying it on the line, time for the rest of us to suck it up!' No that doesn't apply because it happened 30min earlier so it has no bearing on the rest of the game...c'mon do better. You're always negative but usually there is a thread of logical thinking in your posts - not this time....

Now you are fabricating a scenario for how the fights inspired a motivating second intermission speech. If so then it wasn't the fights per se but the hypothetical speech the fights triggered. That's logical?

That's fairy dust.

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#24 Dave
November 17 2013, 04:20PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Yeah I must not care. Calling into radio shows and posting on blogs for over a decade and watching the oilers play when I was living in Newfoundland when the puck drop was 11:30 nl time - that was all stuff that I did out of boredom.

If you have ever heard me on the radio sometimes you would know you are clueless about my level of enthusiasm/passion.

And as for my supposed relentless negativity - go back and read some of my comments on players like RNH and Hall and yak. There are future hall of famers on this team. Their careers are being destroyed by the owners and management. And mindless, unconditional support by fans makes them enablers in the destruction.

Being critical and demanding of management and - sometimes - players is a vital function for fans of a team to perform. It is they as customers who are the ultimate pressure point on management. Try and help out some time.

Yes, I have heard Serious Gord on the radio many times pretending to be a in the know hockey insider. A high-brow version of Daily Doug.

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#25 pkam
November 17 2013, 02:02PM
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@nrXic

Both Ference and Stempniak were going for the puck. Normally, you would expect a hit from both side trying to knock the opponent off to gain possession of the puck.

I don't know why Ference chose to reach for the puck instead of doing what Stempniak did, knock your opponent off the puck.

So Stempniak is guilty of doing the right thing and his fault that Ference didn't engage in a hit but reach for the puck?

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#26 Oiler Al
November 17 2013, 02:40PM
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@nrXic

Ference vs Stepniak.... get over it... on and on and on and on , laying on the same sensless , commentary just to be heard... too early in the day to be drunk

The only story here is that Stepniak got the sh.. kicked out of him... Hope Big Mac gets back and takes care of McGrattan next game.

Gadzic, is no heavy weight, besides a terrible fighter... waste of time. He certainly can't play hockey

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#27 THRNHJE
November 17 2013, 08:57AM
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Consistency, it is SO key for this team. We all know this team is capable of greatness, we have seen them absolutely demolish solid teams like Chicago and Vancouver.

If this team can just play 60 minutes of solid hockey even 80% of their games, then they are a playoff team. That consistency has just yet to be seen. As a die hard Oilers fan I really hope they can find it from more players than the only two consistent players this year: Gordon and Arcobello.

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#28 Rick
November 17 2013, 09:51AM
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It takes time to put all these new pieces together ,New GM, new coach nine new players ,new system. Lets face it the old system and player make up was going nowhere. I think we are seeing them come together as a team and as they do and although the playoffs are gone a much more enjoyable year as a fan is before us.

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#29 Batfink
November 17 2013, 10:11AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Ferrence's actions were disgusting. He attacked a dazed and unwilling participant and caused him injury. He was hit cleanly and reacted with cowardly assault. I expect him to be suspended.

LOL, like Emery was suspended? I'll be sure to forward your concern to Mr. Shananananahanhan. You have obviously never played sport of any kind, just admired from afar. How do you know Stempniak's mouth wasn't writing cheques his a55 couldn't cover? The hit was clean but an excuse for retribution. You don't always get to see the real reasons, the chirping, the little slashes, butt ends, little dirty plays that fly under the radar. That was probably why you never saw anybody come to Stempniak's aid. There are very few players in the NHL who take malicious delight in just punching someone for no apparent reason.

Jeez, the outrage bus has been started, is filling up and being revved to the max this morning.

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#30 nrXic
November 17 2013, 12:40PM
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pkam wrote:

Did Stempniak take a run at Ference? I thought that is a clean hit.

So it ia okay if we throw a clean hit, but it is a run if it is against us?

Let me tell you what the Ference fight was a great play on a hockey level, but also on a level that relates to us in our everyday lives in terms of how we, as human beings, succeed or fail in our lives.

In fact, the fight by Ference could and should be labeled as "riveting" and "inspirational".

First off, Ference was reaching for a puck and was extremely vulnerable. Stumper took advantage of Ference in this dangerous position and delivered a shoulder to Ference's head.

A shot to the head, what is the response from the team? There wasn't any.

Ference takes matters into his own hands.

In this, there is a life lesson for all of us.

Stumper didn't want to fight. Ference rag-dolled him around, attempting to get Stumps to own up to his actions, something Stumps didn't want to do.

Many times in life, people will attempt to take advantage of you when you are in a precarious situation, and they do. Once you confront them, they will never own up to what they've done.

Ference made him own up to it.

With Stumper flailing all over the place, it seemed a fight was unlikely. Ference simply never took "no" as an option. It appeared fate said, "no fight tonight" and Ference was like, "I don't care what Fate or Destiny says, I'm taking what is mine!".

At that point, Fate resigned to Ference's will.

Stumps was felled after Ference, through force, made him accept the consequences of what he had done.

What was so movingly beautiful about this incident, was that after this point, no other Flames player took a run at an Oiler for the rest of the game.

No Oiler was, from that point on, was taken advantage of when they were in an awkward position. The Flames then thought twice about their actions, because they knew deep down inside that they would have to own up to it.

Such as in life, if you set a precedent in standing up for yourself, people will take notice and think twice about wronging you.

So. Message sent. Message received. This was the first game of a season series. Take a run at us, and you'll have to admit it.

"Intimidation" is a reality of the game that isn't measured by stats, not even advanced stats, but one that affects hockey plays and the game. Ference should be getting a lot more credit for this play, in my eyes.

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#31 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 02:10PM
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Hair bag wrote:

You're a tool....that's like saying a retired doctor knows nothing about medicine or health anymore because he's out of the industry - well I guarantee he knows a lot more than you, a retired hockey player is no different. Are you Mr. Negative in all aspects of your life.....are you a know-it-all everywhere else too. Don't worry the sky isn't really falling on your head you can stop walking around like a troll.

And do you hear yourself and others?

Would you have seen yourself writing what you write now back at the beginning of the season? The oil record is 5-15-2. You are celebrating a squeaker win over arguably the weakest roster in the league. This oil team has been an unmitigated disaster this year. A worse performance than any other year in oilers history when compared with what the expectations were for many many fans - you included.

That I and others (DSF being another) were not fooled by the BS and remain unfooled should not be seen as negativity. Rather it is a clear eyed perspective that sees yesterday's result for what it was:

Nothing to celebrate. Especially when with such a big (relatively speaking) emphasis being placed on the game the team came out completely flat. They were lucky to get the win. They did nil to convince any relatively neutral observer that things have turned around in any significant way.

If you want to be pessimistic, take a look at the remainder of the season and try and handicap what the record will be for the rest of the year - the schedule is far tougher over th next sixty than it has been over the last 22.

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#32 The Swarm
November 17 2013, 08:57AM
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Gazdic and Ferrence (great punch btw) won this game for the Oilers. They were dead in the water until these guys injected some emotion into the game.

Talent + Emotion = Success

Hopefully they have a line brawl every game for the remainder of the season.

As Cherry said last night, it seems to be working for the Flyers.

When's MacIntrye back?

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#33 Greenlingj
November 17 2013, 09:41AM
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Highlight of the night...

Ference busting up Stepniak's face. Not a big fan of fighting but not a fan of people backing down on a game.

I wonder how many of the kids watched that and went "WE CAN DO THAT?"

Show more emotion Oilers... its amazing what passion can do for you.

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#34 Sean
November 17 2013, 10:55AM
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K_Mart wrote:

Good third period. That is all. Next.

Bad goaltending by Calgary in the 3rd don't forget

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#35 Cynic
November 17 2013, 11:33AM
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Good news, Oiler fan. The NHL has announced a mid-season scheduling change: you're now going to play the Flames 59 more times. With Rita Berra in net.

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#36 Mike
November 17 2013, 11:38AM
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@serious goof i mean gord Go comment on the flames site then with ur support for stepniak and while your at it watch the game over and listen to the players and coaches comments after the game. Ference roughed him up but didn't start throwing UNTIL stempniak DROPPED his gloves. I don't know if u know this but when two players have their gloves off that means a fight is about to happen. And the COACH who was on the bench the whole game with the players said both fights brought emotion to the bench so really what are you complaining about?

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#37 Mikey
November 17 2013, 03:57PM
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DSF wrote:

I would imagine Andrew Ference has a date with Brian McGratton next time these teams play.

Had the score not been close last night, Ference would likely be a little battered and bruised today after an unprovoked attack on a woozy player who didn't want to fight.

Mark December 7th on your calendar.

I have heard this before. I think Zac Kassian was supposed to watch his back. Lucic in Buffalo, ect.

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#38 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
November 17 2013, 09:30AM
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Most Oilers are a bunch of sissies. The Ference incident was the highlight of the season for me.

He got caught reaching for the puck and got absolutely leveled! I loved that he got pissed! He MADE Stepniak fight him and knocked some chiclets loose. You better believe bloody Stepniak will think twice next time he's on the ice with Ference.

I'm so tired of being frustrated watching these guys get run and doing absolutely nothing about it. Hemsky is probably the worst for it. Eberle too.

Get offended! Take it personally! Those guys don't respect you for a second! Two minute minors for what Ference did should be encouraged on this team.

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#39 Dqgc
November 17 2013, 11:57AM
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blue31 wrote:

Mark me down as not happy with what Ferrence did. I get that the team is frustrated, but knocking out a guys teeth because he made a good, legal check crosses a line. Stepniak did nothing wrong. Did not want to fight.

How many people here defending Ferrence also defended Sean Avery sucker punching Laddy Smid?

It wasn't a legal check. The puck wasn't there and it was high. If anything it could have been interference. Highly applaud Ference for taking the sneak to task because his team needed it and he knew it.

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#40 Spydyr
November 17 2013, 01:09PM
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pkam wrote:

I agree if it is a dirty hit or a run like you said. But beat a guy for throwing a clean hit? Why don't we beat a buy that score on us too?

Ok I had enough. If you don't like the violence in hockey perhaps it is not the sport for you.

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#41 DSF
November 17 2013, 02:39PM
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Just a few notes:

1) The Oilers won a game despite being outworked, outshot (35-23) and out chanced (60.7% - 39.3%) by a team with one of the weakest rosters and lowest payrolls in the league (27th).

2) The only reason they won is a couple of bad goals that got by an AHL level rookie goaltender who has all of SIX NHL games on his resume.

3) The Oilers record against teams that are currently in a playoff position is 1W 10L.

16 of their next 20 games are against teams currently in a playoff spot.

4) The Oilers playoff chances are currently 00.05%

5) The playoff cutoff in the WC this season currently projects to be 111 points.

At their current rate of production, the Oilers will finish with 44 points...an astounding 67 points out of the final playoff spot in the WC.

6) That's not good.

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#42 Serious Gord
November 17 2013, 03:45PM
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David S wrote:

DSF I get. And he has alot of good points. But you? Unless you get paychecks with the Oilers logo in the top left corner signed by Patrick Laforge, most of your comments are no more than self serving at best.

Whether the Oilers win or lose or how they play has no real impact on your life, despite your best efforts to make us believe it does. You are neither their judge nor executioner.

If you're a season ticket holder the only reason you still hold those seats is because you believe it gives you license to cry and complain like a little girl. You call in to Bob at Oilers Now regularly acting like you actually have a point of view that matters to the team and that they personally owe you something. They don't.

It's a frickin' game man. Be happy, be passionate, be pissed off. Who cares.

But as far as I'm aware, nobody designated you chief representative of the fans in this city. You derive no income from such activities and you have no following.

I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

Yeah I must not care. Calling into radio shows and posting on blogs for over a decade and watching the oilers play when I was living in Newfoundland when the puck drop was 11:30 nl time - that was all stuff that I did out of boredom.

If you have ever heard me on the radio sometimes you would know you are clueless about my level of enthusiasm/passion.

And as for my supposed relentless negativity - go back and read some of my comments on players like RNH and Hall and yak. There are future hall of famers on this team. Their careers are being destroyed by the owners and management. And mindless, unconditional support by fans makes them enablers in the destruction.

Being critical and demanding of management and - sometimes - players is a vital function for fans of a team to perform. It is they as customers who are the ultimate pressure point on management. Try and help out some time.

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#43 W.M.D.
November 17 2013, 04:31PM
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DSF wrote:

I would imagine Andrew Ference has a date with Brian McGratton next time these teams play.

Had the score not been close last night, Ference would likely be a little battered and bruised today after an unprovoked attack on a woozy player who didn't want to fight.

Mark December 7th on your calendar.

Calendar marked. But it's not gonna happen. Why, you say? Steve MacIntyre would then have to thro a beat down on MacGratton just like he did on Raitis Ivanãns. A 6'05", Nuclear Deterrent. Lights out, thanks for comin.

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#44 Pete
November 17 2013, 10:27AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

The gadzic fight - while entertaining was of nil value to the game. The oil sucked for another period and a half after it.

The Ference "fight" was execrable. Stempniak hit him clean and was injured hitting the boards. He clearly didn't want to fight yet Ference took advantage. He should be fined or suspended. And this fight also happened thirty minutes before the oil rallied.

And the rally was just as much a credit to the flames running out of gas and lack of scoring talent - how many missed opps did they have?!

The slump has been broken and there is a faint flicker of optimism. They play a very weak Columbus next who have lost 3 in a row. A win moves the optimism level higher. A loss puts them back in the well of despair again.

I'll take the opinion of a player about what a fight can do to energize a bench, rather than a consistently negative poster who thinks he knows every thing.

Ference should be suspended? Congrats on the dumbest comment of the year. Stempniak wasn't injured hitting the boards, get your eyes checked.

So when Dubnyk makes saves it is because the other team can't score. But when Edmonton can't finish it is the forward's fault or the other goalie is great. Typical speak out of both sides of your mouth comment from you.

You are constantly negative. Do yourself a favour and try to enjoy a game. Feel sorry for people like you.

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#45 Spydyr
November 17 2013, 10:53AM
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Someone took a run at an Oiler .Then got his teeth knocked out. About effing time. It should happen every time a run is taken at one of the kids. Then it might stop.

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#46 Spydyr
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pkam wrote:

Did Stempniak take a run at Ference? I thought that is a clean hit.

So it ia okay if we throw a clean hit, but it is a run if it is against us?

Every hit is subjective but it looked like Ference thought it was. If it was me I would of too.

About time someone stood up and knocked out some chiclets .

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#47 Spydyr
November 17 2013, 01:08PM
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pkam wrote:

That is a clean shoulder to shoulder hit. He didn't jump and didn't lift his elbow and didn't target Ference head. You can spin all you want, I have watched the video replay many times. If you are interested to watch it again, here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcACqn1exm8

Stempniak didn't hit Ference at his head even though Ference put his head down and himself in a vulnerable position. Can't blame Stempniak for your own stupidity.

Ference did not blame him .He beat the crap out of him.More please.

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#48 Randaman
November 17 2013, 03:30PM
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pkam wrote:

I agree if it is a dirty hit or a run like you said. But beat a guy for throwing a clean hit? Why don't we beat a buy that score on us too?

You can always watch figure skating if you don't like what you're watching. Wus!

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#49 Ed in Edmonton
November 17 2013, 04:37PM
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I did not see the game last night, so cannot offer any specific comment on Ference vs Stempniak. However, I am surprised about the concern about whether what Ference did was "fair". WTF does "fairness" have to do with professional sports? Did Semenko ever worry about whether his next fight was going to be "fair" He just beat the crap out anyone he wanted to and Gretzky had a lot of room to move.

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#50 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
November 17 2013, 08:51AM
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A win is a win

I don't care who it's against

Suck it Calgary

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