Edmonton Oilers waive Jason LaBarbera

Jonathan Willis
November 18 2013 10:20AM

 

The Edmonton Oilers announced on Monday morning that Jason LaBarbera had been waived. It's a move that comes as no surprise, given the arrival of Ilya Bryzgalov in Edmonton.

The Goalie Depth Chart

The Oilers suddenly have a pretty crowded goaltending depth chart, and the arrival of Ilya Bryzgalov as well as LaBarbera's freefall make it difficult to know with any certainty exactly how everything will shake out. My best guess today looks something like this:

  • Devan Dubnyk
  • Ilya Bryzgalov
  • Richard Bachman (injured)
  • Jason LaBarbera
  • Laurent Brossoit
  • Tyler Bunz

Assuming that Bryzgalov can play anywhere near his previous level of performance, Dubnyk is in for a pitched battle for starting minutes in Edmonton. Further assuming good health and no moves, the farm is a mess - two veteran goalies will be pushing for playing time and likely holding down highly-valued prospect Laurent Brossoit.  

What Now, LaBarbera?

There is the faint possibility that LaBarbera is claimed on waivers, which is doubtless what the Oilers would prefer. The case there is that a) his contract is at a low dollar figure for a single year and b) he's had a pretty decent NHL career. A team with injuries or goalie troubles might be willing to take him as a low-cost fill-in.

It seems unlikely, though, which means that LaBarbera will almost certainly be buried in the minors. He's been a good goalie for a long-time and it's reasonable to expect he can provide Oklahoma City with good goaltending; that isn't a bad thing for a development team. Until Bachman's healthy, the most logical course of action would likely be to demote Laurent Brossoit to the ECHL where he can get playing time and keep Tyler Bunz (who has been surprisngly good early) around as backup. 

Buried in the AHL, LaBarbera will continue to count for $75,000 against the Oilers' NHL salary cap until he's let go this summer. Of course, with both Dubnyk and Bryzgalov pending free agents and the Oilers on the road to nowhere, it's also possible that (with strong play) he's the post-trade deadline starter in Edmonton.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 srbuhr
November 18 2013, 10:24AM
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To bad you can't waive the coach too!

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#2 Biggie small
November 18 2013, 10:48AM
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We could not see that coming!!!!! Too bad they shold waived pettry as well. once there was Poti, then Gilbert, now Pettry, they all play soft and generous with giveaways.

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#3 oilers2k10
November 18 2013, 10:41AM
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I've always wondered do goalies get paid even if they sit on the bench?

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#4 DSF
November 18 2013, 11:12AM
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Vaclav wrote:

I suspect the Oilers are going to take a run at Jonas Hiller next summer but Frederik Andersen may be the real prize out of Anaheim's system. With Viktor Fasth signed through 2015 and John Gibson the heir apparent MacTavish should do what he can to acquire Andersen.

With Lindholm and Vatanen both graduating to the big club the Ducks might want to replenish their d-corps prospect pool with someone like Marincin.

Anaheim just acquired Jesse Blacker from the Leafs in return for Holland.

They also have last year's first round pick Shea Theodore in the system.

They're pretty much loaded with young D.

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#5 DSF
November 18 2013, 12:48PM
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yellow pone wrote:

Gilbert is playing first pairing minutes in Florida and is holding his own. Petry plays the opposition's best and is holding his head above water.

The idea that Petry and Gilbert are marginal NHL players is laughable. Maybe you should take your own advice, because it's apparent that you don't know much about what you're talking about.

You know Gilbert was bought out by Minnesota, right?

And, I'm sure you're aware Petry is on pace for a -40 season, right?

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#6 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 18 2013, 12:56PM
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With Hemsky,Dubnyk and Shultz coming off the books at seasons end, perhaps the Oilers could use that second compliance buyout on Sam Gagner.

With this season already crumpled up in the garbage basket, time to start to try sell whatever isn't bolted to the floor.

Damn it's hot in this desert....

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#7 DSF
November 18 2013, 12:46PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

What would you give up to bring Andersen in DSF, what makes sense to you?

Klefbom and a third?

I doubt that would get it done.

Anaheim has these "under 25" guys who would all be ahead of Klefbom on the depth chart.

Cam Fowler 21 (22GP 2G 9A 11P) *Looks like the dime has dropped

Hampus Lindholm 19 (20GP 2G 4A 6P +8)

Sami Vatenen 22 (17GP 1G 4A 5P +3)

Luca Sbisa (tweener)

With Jesse Blacker and Shea Theodore in the pipeline, they hardly need another young D prospect.

I would imagine the only thing that would interest the Ducks long term would be another scoring winger to fill in when Selanne retires.

With Hemsky putting up another stinker of a season and at $5M, I doubt there would be any interest from the Ducks other than one of the Fab 4.

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#8 Spydyr
November 18 2013, 12:22PM
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David S wrote:

Maybe cut the guy some slack. Might be a little kid asking a legit question from his point of view.*

*Or this can't be real.

Sure, maybe he never heard of Google.

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#9 yellow pone
November 18 2013, 11:00AM
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Biggie small wrote:

We could not see that coming!!!!! Too bad they shold waived pettry as well. once there was Poti, then Gilbert, now Pettry, they all play soft and generous with giveaways.

Gilbert and Petry would be first pairing on the Oilers. They would be a good second pairing on a contender. If you think Petry should be demoted you need to give your head a shake

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#10 Ari Gold
November 18 2013, 10:23AM
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Good. Get rid of these mediocre tenders.

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#11 Ari Gold
November 18 2013, 10:42AM
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The Oilers think they're the recycle bin of the NHL. There's a reason why no one else wanted this junk.

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#12 Pikester
November 18 2013, 10:52AM
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Even though Bryzgalov is not the long term answer in net, I like the signing right now. It was a HUGE mistake for MacT to sign Labarbera in the summer, not just because of his less than stellar numbers but because he's Devans buddy. I get that MacT wanted to take the pressure off Dubbie to let him know he's the unchallenged no.#1 but man, did that ever blow up in his face!

Dubnyk seems like the kind of guy who needs to be constantly challenged. Maybe now we'll get some competetive goaltending night after night.

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#13 DSF
November 18 2013, 11:52AM
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sizzay wrote:

If we use the Bishop trade as a template, than potentially Arcobello + pick for Andersen would be feasible. Only question is, do the ducks need Arcobello? I would say no, unfortunately.

I'm unsure of any other 3rd/backup goalies that are pushing for a starting role like Andersen. Perhaps Eddie Lack but we likely won't trade with Vancouver. We may have to wait until the next hot thing out of Europe.

While goaltending surely needs upgrading, so does the top 6 and top 4. I would try to upgrade the D and the 2C position before worrying about goaltending THIS season. It's screwed already.

Gagner should be traded, I wanted him gone last year while he was putting up points. Sell high.

Shawn Matthias should be acquired as another Centre option in the bottom 6.

Erhoff and Kulikov should be inquired on.

I think at the end of the day, we likely grab Ekblad and wait for him, Nurse, and Klefbom. Not saying that's the best course of action but it's the easiest and most likely.

The problem with trading with the Ducks is that they really don't need anything the Oilers have.

Arcobello would be a non-starter with the Ducks depth at C:

Getzlaf, Koivu, Palmieri, Perrault, Bonino and Rackell.

The Ducks were only willing to move Holland because Rackell passed him on the depth chart.

Their RW depth is very, very solid:

Perry, Selanne, Silfverberg, Smyth-Pelley, Etem.

And their LW depth, while not the best in the league is already better than the Oilers.

I agree that upgrading further in goal this season is likely a waste of time and also agree that a #2C and #1D should be the priorities although I don't see any way to get there from here.

Ehrhoff, as you say, is a prime target but he has a NTC and I seriously doubt he would waive it to come to Edmonton.

You might be able to get Kulikov out of Florida but I think it would have to be an overpay to get Tallon to move him.

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#14 DSF
November 18 2013, 01:28PM
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yellow pone wrote:

What's your point? Vincent Lecavlier was bought out by Tampa Bay, and he's on pace for a 55 point season.

Petry's on ice save percentage is .885 and it's not like he bleeds chances against. In fact, his even strength scoring chance differential is positive. I'd say his minus reflects the poor goaltending more than it reflects any poor play by Petry.

Lecavalier was bought out because his contract was too long and because his cap hit was too high not because he couldn't contribute.

Gilbert was bought out because he wasn't very good and because Minnesota had better, cheaper options.

Ask yourself why the Wild signed Keith Ballard for $1M and let Gilbert go.

Petry's 5V5 CF% currently sits at 45%.

That's not good.

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#15 DSF
November 18 2013, 05:17PM
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Vaclav wrote:

Yeah, no evidence whatsoever:

Boxcars: Blacker 2012/13 - 4G, 7A -4 Marincin 2012/13 - 7G, 23A +20

Marincin is a year younger, 2 inches taller, and skates as well as Blacker. Both have some chaos in their game.

Using boxcars from the AHL to project an NHL defenseman is foolish.

Justin Schultz tore up the AHL last season and can't play NHL defense AT ALL and on any decent team would be back in the AHL.

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#16 tileguy
November 18 2013, 10:26AM
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Are we at 50 contracts yet?

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#17 Spydyr
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It seems the "braintrust" is treating goal like defence.The are stocking up on #5 defencmen and back up and minor league goalies.

Guess we will have to wait till next summer for a goalie upgrade and perhaps a top pairing defencman.

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#18 tileguy
November 18 2013, 10:43AM
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Does Bryz automatically get the first start. I thought Dubes was more than accountable the last couple starts, but oh yeah, this is the oilers.

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#19 Smokey
November 18 2013, 11:24AM
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Did Bryzgalov's contract come with a lifetime supply of Bear Spray. Then again I doubt he never goes outside in the elements, so what does it possibly matter...

As long as Rob Ford is in the spotlight Bryz should be able to hang out under the radar. I wonder if Oilers are going to do an HBO type 24 hour type reality show with Bryz for their next Oil Change episode. Rating would be outta this world, literally.

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#20 Cynic
November 18 2013, 12:07PM
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"Gilbert and Petry would be first pairing on the Oilers. They would be a good second pairing on a contender."

First sentence is probably true b/c Oilers D is a pile of dung. Second sentence is laughable. Might want to spend some time actually watching hockey that doesn't involve the Oilers. Gilbert doesn't even make the roster of a contender. Petry is 3rd pair at best.

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#21 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 18 2013, 02:38PM
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moose wrote:

Incorrect. Bishop was a Tambellini fumble, not MacT.

MacT was here, and very much involved last season. Tambellini was just here to take the bullets for the behind the scenes management group. ALL decisions were made via their daily pow wow support group therapy sessions they'd hold.

To think one guy is responsible for this debacle, is mistaken.

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#22 Johnnydapunk
November 18 2013, 11:21AM
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Ari Gold wrote:

The Oilers think they're the recycle bin of the NHL. There's a reason why no one else wanted this junk.

The Oil did alright with Roloson who seemed washed up when 6Rings traded for him and he was shockingly decent.

This works as the risk is fairly minimal, if it goes horribly wrong, they aren't in the hook long term, it leaves them options for goalies next year as pretty well everyone except Bunz, Brossoit, and Tuohimaa are under contract next year, and I don't have too many expectations for Bunz or Brossoit, and Tuohimaa will come to North America to play and hopefully become the new Kipper as he has been a bit of a surprise in a good way regarding his play.

Best case scenario is the Bryz finds his form and the Oil win a bunch of 1-0 games and Dubnyk plays half decent as it finally realises he is playing for an NHL contract, and in the end the Oil either somehow squeeze into the playoffs and right the wrongs of 2006

Worst case scenario, The Bryz gets lit up like Racicot did back in the days, and Dubnyk plays well enough for the Oil to sign him to another 7 million deal and we go through this painful carousel of bad goaltending all over again :-)

I'm happy that MacT tried to fix a problem he didn't expect to be so big without giving up a silly silly amount.

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November 18 2013, 12:21PM
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@Johnnydapunk

[Quote] The Oil did alright with Roloson (because they had Chris Pronger) who seemed washed up when 6Rings traded for him and he was shockingly decent.

I fixed that there for you Johnny. It wasn't as much Roli as it was the combination of the two together.

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#24 Serious Gord
November 18 2013, 12:23PM
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Jonathon:

Is it 75000 or 750000 against the cap?

Also as I understand it labarbera was the third best goalie in camp but MacT insisted on making him the number two because Bachman would not have to clear waivers.

I thought Bryz should have been brought up at the start if the season. Doing it now is far too late and does little to help the team beyond this season.

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#25 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 18 2013, 12:27PM
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@DSF

What would you give up to bring Andersen in DSF, what makes sense to you?

Klefbom and a third?

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#26 yellow pone
November 18 2013, 12:45PM
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@Cynic

Gilbert is playing first pairing minutes in Florida and is holding his own. Petry plays the opposition's best and is holding his head above water.

The idea that Petry and Gilbert are marginal NHL players is laughable. Maybe you should take your own advice, because it's apparent that you don't know much about what you're talking about.

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#27 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 18 2013, 01:07PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

Well that would I guess explain Roloson having a 28-24 record with a goals against south of 3 and and a save percentage of .915 in the 2008-09 season. Not sure how much Pronger helped that season...

I'm not saying he was Patrick Roy or a Fuhr by any means, but for a guy pushing 40 and getting numbers like that for an Oil team who weren't world beaters, I think he was a pretty good find.

Apparently he wasn't signed because he wanted a longer contract, shame he didn't as he ended up playing for another 3 seasons and putting up fairly respectable numbers.

There's two sides to every blade. If Roli stays, Oilers remain in never never land (15 to 20th overall) the yr the Oiler took Taylor Hall.

I see what your point is though. Rolison wanted 2 yrs, and Lowe stood firm on one. Management has botched up on many occasions these last 8 yrs. They've screwed themselves thinking they're smarter than most, when they ended up being their own worst enemy.

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#28 Bigge small
November 18 2013, 01:35PM
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yellow pone wrote:

Gilbert and Petry would be first pairing on the Oilers. They would be a good second pairing on a contender. If you think Petry should be demoted you need to give your head a shake

Are you kidding, even HNC guys were mentioning Oilers have bounch of # 5 D man in current roster. As far is Gilbert why was he bought out for reason...

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#29 DSF
November 18 2013, 02:48PM
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Vaclav wrote:

Marincin is a better prospect than Blacker and Theodore is still in the WHL. The Ducks have two very good defenceman on their roster in Vatanen and Lindholm but will be looking to fill the voids left by Souray, Beauchemin and Allen after next season.

Good teams keep the cupboards stocked and adding a solid prospect like Marincin should be something they'd consider.

There is absolutely no evidence that "Marincin is a better prospect than Blacker".

None.

Both are mid second round draft picks and both have played well in the AHL.

As for the long term, when Beauchemin, Souray and Allen leave Anaheim will likely use their cap space to sign a couple of veterans to replace them while their young studs move up the batting order.

Good teams do indeed keep the cupboards stocked but they generally do that through the draft not by trading stating goaltenders for them.

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#30 Spydyr
November 18 2013, 10:42AM
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oilers2k10 wrote:

I've always wondered do goalies get paid even if they sit on the bench?

This can't be for real, can it?

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November 18 2013, 12:00PM
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Damn you Shea Weber...it's all his fault the goaltending appears so inadequate.

* If only he were an Oiler, they'd have someone capable of making a decent zone clearing first pass. Someone to get the puck up to the few capable Oiler forwards. A sheriff and someone to settle things down would make a world of difference on this blueline. A legitimate No.1, he's the key to helping make the rest of his blueliners more confident than they have been to date.

Now that Seth Jones has been as advertised, everybody knows that ownership group in Nashville must be looking to shed the remaining nearly 75 million remaining on that deal. It's only a matter of time before he's wearing new silks. Could be a match there for what the Oilers have, and what the Preds need. It's either that, or wait 3 more yrs for these Ekblad/ Nurse or Klefbom types to develop.

*Cut and pasted from 2 years ago, who knew.....

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#32 yellow pone
November 18 2013, 01:17PM
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@DSF

What's your point? Vincent Lecavlier was bought out by Tampa Bay, and he's on pace for a 55 point season.

Petry's on ice save percentage is .885 and it's not like he bleeds chances against. In fact, his even strength scoring chance differential is positive. I'd say his minus reflects the poor goaltending more than it reflects any poor play by Petry.

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#33 Oiler AL
November 18 2013, 02:33PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

[Quote] The Oil did alright with Roloson (because they had Chris Pronger) who seemed washed up when 6Rings traded for him and he was shockingly decent.

I fixed that there for you Johnny. It wasn't as much Roli as it was the combination of the two together.

Rolie was a big part of it... but it really was the Triple P, that got them to the big dance.... Pronger, Pëca and Pisani.

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#34 Rob...
November 18 2013, 10:24AM
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Forget voodoo cleansings of the locker room, MacT has hired every witchdoctor he can get ahold to help ensure LaBarbera gets plucked off of waivers.

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#35 geoilersgist
November 18 2013, 10:25AM
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Now that dubby has a crazy Russian backing him up he can back to the goalie he was.

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#36 camdog
November 18 2013, 10:34AM
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Hopefully somebody picks up Labarbera, both for his sake and the Oilers. Chicago is desperate for a back up goalie that can stop a beach ball, the Brullin Wall's numbers are horrendous and he's injured again.

Does anybody know if they have a competant 3rd stringer in the system?

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#37 OilCanFan
November 18 2013, 10:39AM
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Greenlingj wrote:

Bring on Bryzgalov, hope you can push Dubnyk and find yourself in the NHL again and hopefully move you at the deadline for an asset :) lets turn this ship around and get back on course.

if Bryzgalov returns to form, why not try and re-sign him? He is already getting paid a whack of cash to not play for Philly so maybe he comes cheaper than some overpay in the offseason. I'd rather have Dubnyk and Bryzgalov as a tandem with great defense (assuming that could be done in the offseason) than some $6-8 million goalie that may or may not be great behind the current defense

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#38 David S
November 18 2013, 11:33AM
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Spydyr wrote:

This can't be for real, can it?

Maybe cut the guy some slack. Might be a little kid asking a legit question from his point of view.*

*Or this can't be real.

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#39 sizzay
November 18 2013, 11:38AM
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DSF wrote:

Anaheim just acquired Jesse Blacker from the Leafs in return for Holland.

They also have last year's first round pick Shea Theodore in the system.

They're pretty much loaded with young D.

If we use the Bishop trade as a template, than potentially Arcobello + pick for Andersen would be feasible. Only question is, do the ducks need Arcobello? I would say no, unfortunately.

I'm unsure of any other 3rd/backup goalies that are pushing for a starting role like Andersen. Perhaps Eddie Lack but we likely won't trade with Vancouver. We may have to wait until the next hot thing out of Europe.

While goaltending surely needs upgrading, so does the top 6 and top 4. I would try to upgrade the D and the 2C position before worrying about goaltending THIS season. It's screwed already.

Gagner should be traded, I wanted him gone last year while he was putting up points. Sell high.

Shawn Matthias should be acquired as another Centre option in the bottom 6.

Erhoff and Kulikov should be inquired on.

I think at the end of the day, we likely grab Ekblad and wait for him, Nurse, and Klefbom. Not saying that's the best course of action but it's the easiest and most likely.

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#40 Wintoon
November 18 2013, 12:39PM
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sizzay wrote:

If we use the Bishop trade as a template, than potentially Arcobello + pick for Andersen would be feasible. Only question is, do the ducks need Arcobello? I would say no, unfortunately.

I'm unsure of any other 3rd/backup goalies that are pushing for a starting role like Andersen. Perhaps Eddie Lack but we likely won't trade with Vancouver. We may have to wait until the next hot thing out of Europe.

While goaltending surely needs upgrading, so does the top 6 and top 4. I would try to upgrade the D and the 2C position before worrying about goaltending THIS season. It's screwed already.

Gagner should be traded, I wanted him gone last year while he was putting up points. Sell high.

Shawn Matthias should be acquired as another Centre option in the bottom 6.

Erhoff and Kulikov should be inquired on.

I think at the end of the day, we likely grab Ekblad and wait for him, Nurse, and Klefbom. Not saying that's the best course of action but it's the easiest and most likely.

Gagner is an albatross around the Oilers necks. He is a tweener as a 2C and will never contribute to the Oilers becoming a contender. He just isn't well enough rounded to play in that position and the longer he stays the longer the fans will have to wait to see any form of success.

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#41 Johnnydapunk
November 18 2013, 01:12PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Thanks. And does he still take up a roster spot?

One of the 50 contract spots? Yeah from my half assed count, the Oil are at 49 though they have 51 players signed, 2 of those players Nurse and Khaira do not count towards the 50 contract limit as players who are 18-19 and are assigned to their respective CHL junior club do not count towards the contract limit, which may also have been a reason why Nurse didn't stay up here, despite his excellent camp.

If you are referring to one of the 23 active player spots? Then no, once he is officially sent to the minors, he is off the active roster.

There will most likely be some seemingly nonsensical roster moves here and there as the Oil, like every other team has to sometimes juggle their lineups based not on skill but on their contract and their eligibility to be sent to the minors or some other weird technical reason. The Arcobello move to be sent down for one day is a good example of that :-)

Also bear in mind that Bachman is not on the roster currently as an exemption can be made for injured players and they are not counted towards the active roster limit. I'm guessing that some "injuries" are to clear a spot for a player on the roster, Dubnyks ankle "injury" comes to mind.

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#42 Spydyr
November 18 2013, 02:02PM
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Greenlingj wrote:

I can't get over this community.

Yes we need defense and badly.

We have a bunch of 5-6 guys and we had two 3-4 guys but sent one down the road...

but in development we have a legit number 1.

Nurse is sitting at 21 gp 7 g 16 a 22 pts +4

Klefbom, Marincin, Musil, J Schultz.

And the potential to use our pick to get Ekblad or upgrade our center position with a guy like Sam Reinhart.

Laurent Broissoit could be a legit elite goalie in the making...

These things take time and Mac T is right in saying trading for immediate reward now will be detrimental in the future.

Change the names it sounds like four years ago.Help is on its way.Just be patient.

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#43 Greenlingj
November 18 2013, 10:24AM
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Bring on Bryzgalov, hope you can push Dubnyk and find yourself in the NHL again and hopefully move you at the deadline for an asset :) lets turn this ship around and get back on course.

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#44 Craig1981
November 18 2013, 10:42AM
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Could they not find another AHL team to lend out a couple of their goalies too?

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#45 Lofty
November 18 2013, 10:43AM
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Ari Gold wrote:

Good. Get rid of these mediocre tenders.

Mediocre goaltending is an upgrade on what was produced in the 1st 10 games.

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#46 Lochenzo
November 18 2013, 10:54AM
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Pekka Rinne is out and the backups have not been very good in Nashville. Chance that they pick him up, assuming Nashville has less than 50 contracts.

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#47 Clarko
November 18 2013, 11:00AM
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OilCanFan wrote:

if Bryzgalov returns to form, why not try and re-sign him? He is already getting paid a whack of cash to not play for Philly so maybe he comes cheaper than some overpay in the offseason. I'd rather have Dubnyk and Bryzgalov as a tandem with great defense (assuming that could be done in the offseason) than some $6-8 million goalie that may or may not be great behind the current defense

I don't think the Oilers will re-sign him either way. If he plays well, I would think Bryz would want to sign with a better team next summer. If he does poorly, then the Oilers obviously won't want to re-sign him.

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#48 camdog
November 18 2013, 11:13AM
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OilCanFan wrote:

if Bryzgalov returns to form, why not try and re-sign him? He is already getting paid a whack of cash to not play for Philly so maybe he comes cheaper than some overpay in the offseason. I'd rather have Dubnyk and Bryzgalov as a tandem with great defense (assuming that could be done in the offseason) than some $6-8 million goalie that may or may not be great behind the current defense

If Bryzgalov plays well, he's going to want to get paid well. There will be no discounts for Bryzgalov.

Suffice to say if the Oilers don't trade for a goalie, that means they need to sign 2 UFA goalies next season. Can't see DD sticking around if Mact goes after a whale.

It would be intersting to see how DD plays on a veteran team. One only has to look at Emery's results from last season to see that many goalies have superior numbers playing with Norris trophy d-man and horrible numbers when the D are really bad.

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#49 Greg
November 18 2013, 12:06PM
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srbuhr wrote:

To bad you can't waive the coach too!

No way!

Too bad you can't waive the president of this hot mess

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#50 Fresh Mess
November 18 2013, 12:11PM
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When the Oilers are inevitably next in front of city council again demanding handouts for arena overages, or claiming they lost money this year, I wonder if anyone will question them on the three or four million dollars in NHL contracts being paid to minor league players.

Think of the millions of dollars wasted just this season paying out the fired GM and coach. Look at the ever growing hockey operations staff.

It's mind blowing how poor the management is of this franchise, and many others.

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