THE BRYZ WITCH HUNT BEGINS

Wanye
November 18 2013 03:44PM

New Oilers tendy Ilya Bryzgalov faced the media for the first time this afternoon after practice. A great many questions lobbed in his direction were cringe worthy as the assembled scribes baited the newest Oiler to say something colourful and give them the quote they had all trudged down in the snow to get.

IS THIS HOW IT IS GOING TO GO?

We have spent a good amount of time watching Bryz interviews since the Oilers announced that they were bringing him in on a one year deal. The guy is clearly a different breed and his interviews on HBO's 24/7 are the stuff of legend. And it is embarassing to watch the reporters in this scrum try and pry out quotes of a similar ilk.

Bryz seems genuinely happy to be in Edmonton and grateful for a chance to be back in the NHL. Is Edmonton is first choice? No. But is he sounding like someone trying to make the best of things? Yes. He pumped the Oilers "great heritage" wisely lumping in Lowe and MacT in with Gretzky and Messier and seems be a happy go lucky fellow fighting through English as a second language to make himself understood.

But this wasn't a Dany Heatley type attitude - the guy doesn't seem to have a mean bone in his body. This didn't seem to make any sort of the impressions on the hostile crowd of mics who wanted him to diss the city, the fans or anything really and asked only questions of the sort.

It's clear everyone covering the team is looking for him to say something crazy asap. "Do you think you suck?" "Don't you hate Philly?" "Isn't Edmonton crappy?" "Are you mad you were bought out?" The awkward questions just came at the poor guy rapid fire. We can't think of any other Oiler being raked over the coals in such a fashion - much less in his first day on the job.

You can hear Ryan Rishaug trying to be a tough guy asking the hard questions of the newest Oiler throughout the clip. It would be grand if he would take a similar approach with MacT, Eakins or Lowe who actually have had an impact in the product on the ice not a guy who hasn't even suited up in a single game but there you go. 

Bryz wasn't having it. He stayed positive, stayed classy and made it through the gauntlet unscathed.

FOR THE RECORD

We saw a panel over the weekend on one of the networks suggest that Bryz was being brought in as a designated dressing room distraction designed to take the heat off the underperforming mega studs. If the Oilers are going to get things righted again reclamation projects are going to be a key part of the re-re-rebuild. The Oilers need to be a place where players can come to turn things around in a positive place - not in some hostile environment like what we see in the scrum above. Hopefully Bryz's new team mates are a bit more welcoming.

Not everyone in Edmonton wants you to fail. In fact some of us want to see you dominate. I'll say it again: Не каждый в Эдмонтонских желаниях Вы, чтобы терпеть неудачу. Фактически некоторые из нас хотят видеть, что Вы возглавляете.

Good luck to you Bryz.

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#51 Serious Gord
November 18 2013, 05:12PM
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"...You can hear Ryan Rishaug trying to be a tough guy asking the hard questions of the newest Oiler throughout the clip. It would be grand if he would take a similar approach with MacT, Eakins or Lowe who actually have had an impact in the product on the ice not a guy who hasn't even suited up in a single game but there you go."

This ALL DAY LONG.

How about robin? How about going after MacT in the next presser, relentlessly, point by point?

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#52 John
November 18 2013, 05:13PM
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I am pretty sure that there is no video with Bryz trashing Edmonton, he is talking about Winnipeg.

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#53 John
November 18 2013, 05:24PM
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I also found Rishaug's questions to be very distasteful. I hope that these players start shutting them down and just give them cliche's if that is how they are going to conduct themselves. Every time he asks a question he might as well open with, "I mean this with the least amount of respect possible".

I was actually embarrassed for the Edmonton media today, and happy that Bryz was ready for it and didn't give them anything.

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#54 -30-
November 18 2013, 05:26PM
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Rishaug. And they say it's the fans that drive players out of Edmonton.

Totally classless questions from "shauger". LOL

All of these dumbass mainstream media types try lead the interviewee with loaded questions.

Rishaug, with this and the rant about Yak I have totally lost any kind of respect or interest in what you have to say.

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#55 Bryan in SK
November 18 2013, 05:28PM
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Just win. Then you can say anything you want and I'll have it printed on a T-shirt.

Welcome to Edmonton. Now stop the puck.

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#56 camdog
November 18 2013, 05:29PM
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On a positive note Mact bringing in Bryzgalof has deflected attention away from a hockey team that hasn't put together a solid 60 minute performance all season. Bravo to Mact you have succeeded.

On another note if you combine the Oilers and Flames wins this season in 42 games they have a total of 11 wins which is tied with the Canucks and only 3 wins back of Colorado for 8th.

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#57 Retsinnab5
November 18 2013, 05:29PM
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-30- wrote:

Rishaug. And they say it's the fans that drive players out of Edmonton.

Totally classless questions from "shauger". LOL

All of these dumbass mainstream media types try lead the interviewee with loaded questions.

Rishaug, with this and the rant about Yak I have totally lost any kind of respect or interest in what you have to say.

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Y U HEFF TO BE MAD?

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#58 He Who Knows
November 18 2013, 05:32PM
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Ryan Rishaug is where he is because he sold out a long time ago. Mainstream media is a propaganda machine.

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#59 camdog
November 18 2013, 05:35PM
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John wrote:

I am pretty sure that there is no video with Bryz trashing Edmonton, he is talking about Winnipeg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ns14hRqwY8

I guess it depends on your perspective, by reading some of the utube comments some Edmontonians would disagree with your interpretation.

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#60 Jason Gregor
November 18 2013, 05:36PM
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I didn't have a major issue with the questions. The ones you thought were tough, were about what happened in Philly.

Bryz was bought out for a reason. I think he has to answer for his past for one day. Now it turns to him playing.

I liked his responses. He stood his ground, answered them and said judge him for what he does here. I respect that.

If he plays well, people will notice and talk about it. He was paid $23 million to leave a team, so I don't think it was unfair to ask him he feels like he has something to prove.

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#61 Robin Brownlee
November 18 2013, 05:48PM
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He Who Knows wrote:

Ryan Rishaug is where he is because he sold out a long time ago. Mainstream media is a propaganda machine.

Rishaug sold out? How? Comments like that just drip with envy.

MSM is a propaganda machine? Do tell. What, was Rishaug asking Bryzgalov tough questions because he thinks that will garner him favour with EDM management, which obviously thinks bringing Bryz in is worthwhile?

Explain to me, if Rishaug "sold out," how asking the questions he did today makes him part of a propaganda machine. Let's hear it.

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#62 Rama Lama
November 18 2013, 05:50PM
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I can just see the headlines after his first decisive win, " Taking care of Bryzness", .........just like the song suggests.

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#63 Racki
November 18 2013, 05:55PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

I didn't have a major issue with the questions. The ones you thought were tough, were about what happened in Philly.

Bryz was bought out for a reason. I think he has to answer for his past for one day. Now it turns to him playing.

I liked his responses. He stood his ground, answered them and said judge him for what he does here. I respect that.

If he plays well, people will notice and talk about it. He was paid $23 million to leave a team, so I don't think it was unfair to ask him he feels like he has something to prove.

We're not that naive to think that the questions weren't asked with some hope of getting a rise out of him. Good on Bryzy for answering the questions well, but I think when you ask a guy "how does it feel to be paid not to play for a team" and then "did it make you angry" you're looking for a certain type of response.

It wasn't that bad, I suppose, but I don't really see how Bryzgalov has to answer for his past. He's here, it's a new start, why can't we just think of it as that? Why is it necessary to poke the beehive to see if that great quote will drop out?

Hopefully you media folks actually do just move on and focus on his current game though now that he's gone through this unnecessary media initiation.

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#64 DSF
November 18 2013, 05:55PM
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I didn't hear even one inappropriate question.

Rishaug, or no other member of the Edmonton media are responsible for Bryzgalov's "reputation" and asking him direct questions about his experience in Philly or his reputation as a space cadet are hardly out of line.

On the other side of the coin, I thought Bryz handled himself very well and, when not comfortable answering a probing question, as is his right, he deflected them very well.

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#65 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 18 2013, 05:55PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

I didn't have a major issue with the questions. The ones you thought were tough, were about what happened in Philly.

Bryz was bought out for a reason. I think he has to answer for his past for one day. Now it turns to him playing.

I liked his responses. He stood his ground, answered them and said judge him for what he does here. I respect that.

If he plays well, people will notice and talk about it. He was paid $23 million to leave a team, so I don't think it was unfair to ask him he feels like he has something to prove.

I think this is fair.

You have to answer some of these, esp. his play and being bought out (or at least, how he feels about it, Philly has to answer for it at the end of the day, it wasn't his decision after all).

These are by and large fair questions. But asking them over and over isn't very helpful, even if you massage the language to try and get a different answer.

The ones that seemed silly were about whether he was going to change his attitude, how he carries himself off the ice and specifically his relation to the media.

All of these are insidious. We aren't talking about Torts, or Avery here. We're talking about a guy who's is a little more interesting than others. Giving the 5th degree about it seems totally out of perspective and desperate.

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#66 DSF
November 18 2013, 05:57PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I can just see the headlines after his first decisive win, " Taking care of Bryzness", .........just like the song suggests.

Oh lord...Gene doesn't need any prompting 😀

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#67 SRELIOFAN
November 18 2013, 06:00PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

I first met Bryzgalov during the 2005-06 season.

I won't pretend to know him, but my impressions are he is definitely out there and a bit of a kook. That said, I have yet to see or hear any indication of a mean or "I'm a jerk" bone in his body. He actually seems like a guy who'd be a laugh riot to hang out with.

I don't care if he's a bit of an oddball or if he's a helluva great guy with a nutbar edge, which I suspect he is. All that should matter from the team's point of view is that he can stop pucks and that he's a good teammate.

Lots of guys who were a bit bent have had nice runs in Edmonton -- Janne Niinimaa, Georges Laraque and Marty Reasoner, to name just three.

I miss Georges Laraque...

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#68 Rob...
November 18 2013, 06:00PM
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@DSF

Though I agree that, in principle, the questions weren't inappropriate, the phrasing was about as awkward as an Oiler's D trying to clear the puck out of his own zone. It made me almost wish for a Bob Stauffer 'canned answer built into the question' type question.

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#69 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:11PM
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Racki wrote:

We're not that naive to think that the questions weren't asked with some hope of getting a rise out of him. Good on Bryzy for answering the questions well, but I think when you ask a guy "how does it feel to be paid not to play for a team" and then "did it make you angry" you're looking for a certain type of response.

It wasn't that bad, I suppose, but I don't really see how Bryzgalov has to answer for his past. He's here, it's a new start, why can't we just think of it as that? Why is it necessary to poke the beehive to see if that great quote will drop out?

Hopefully you media folks actually do just move on and focus on his current game though now that he's gone through this unnecessary media initiation.

The media's job, in a case like this, is to represent the general public and to ask questions that many of them may have.

Had it been a press conference which focused solely on what Bryzgalov brings to the Oilers, I am sure he would have been happy to tell us he knows the teams' "back is against the wall and he will "give 110 percent" to make it all okay.

Pablum.

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#70 Racki
November 18 2013, 06:31PM
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DSF wrote:

The media's job, in a case like this, is to represent the general public and to ask questions that many of them may have.

Had it been a press conference which focused solely on what Bryzgalov brings to the Oilers, I am sure he would have been happy to tell us he knows the teams' "back is against the wall and he will "give 110 percent" to make it all okay.

Pablum.

The feeling that I'm getting from comments here is the general public wasn't actually looking for answers to the questions asked.

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#71 kale
November 18 2013, 06:32PM
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@Racki

I agree totally...Bryzgalov does not have to answer for his past, thats the media thinking they have a right to know. The only thing relevant about the past is his on ice record, the rest is just media jockeying for the scoop. Would be nice to have seen a classier reception for Bryz. Welcome Bryz, hope you have a great experience here. Finally that propaganda comment, I dont see how it wreaks of envy, no offence but such a commentt sounds arrogant to me and assumes everyone wants to work for the media-thats wrong

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#72 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:34PM
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Racki wrote:

The feeling that I'm getting from comments here is the general public wasn't actually looking for answers to the questions asked.

I'm not sure this blog represent the general public very well at all.

There are some concerns about Bryzgalov's past behaviour outlined quite well by Spector here:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bryzgalov-officially-brings-his-act-to-oilers/

Make note of Ryan Smyth's comments.

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#73 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:37PM
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kale wrote:

I agree totally...Bryzgalov does not have to answer for his past, thats the media thinking they have a right to know. The only thing relevant about the past is his on ice record, the rest is just media jockeying for the scoop. Would be nice to have seen a classier reception for Bryz. Welcome Bryz, hope you have a great experience here. Finally that propaganda comment, I dont see how it wreaks of envy, no offence but such a commentt sounds arrogant to me and assumes everyone wants to work for the media-thats wrong

Do you really think it's the media's job to welcome Bryzgalov to Edmonton and wish him well?

Is that any different than if the Toronto media is hoping Doug Ford had a nice time at the party and hoping his past behaviour is all in the past?

You might want to do a little brushing up on the role of the media in a democracy.

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#74 merlen
November 18 2013, 06:39PM
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As per Wikipedia - Selling out is the compromising of integrity, morality, or principles in exchange for personal gain.

Sound like most of the reporters in that room, all looking for the next youtube video response.

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#75 Racki
November 18 2013, 06:42PM
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DSF wrote:

I'm not sure this blog represent the general public very well at all.

There are some concerns about Bryzgalov's past behaviour outlined quite well by Spector here:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bryzgalov-officially-brings-his-act-to-oilers/

Make note of Ryan Smyth's comments.

Well then, thank god the media is here to correct his behavioral problems.

And I'm not sure how Rayn Smyth's recommendation to Bryzgalov (which I think really could be given to any goalie) is more representative of the general public than people here. I don't see it as anything damning either. Seems like a pretty reasonable comment. Do you think the media was doing us all a solid by making sure Bryzgalov was going to follow Smytty's grand advice?

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#76 nrXic
November 18 2013, 06:45PM
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We can all debate what is a fair question and what isn't. I see merit in both arguments, so I'll stay away from that and stick to something that maybe we can all agree on:

We are seeing many hard (but perhaps fair) questions about what is occurring OFF THE ICE...

...and not a lot of hard questions about stuff we're seeing ON THE ICE.

If anything, this disparity troubles me the most.

The Oilers PP is noticeably worse than last year. We could have won or tied a few games if we converted on the chances we had in the first 3 weeks.

I've watched every post-game interview with Eakins and I never heard once any question resembling, "Why not stick with the PP system that had moderate success last year?" or "Yakupov led the team in PP goals last year, why isn't he on the 1st unit?"

Are those questions a little too "tough"? Is that why the media is holding back on asking them?

This disparity in focusing on stuff that happens away from the rink, rather than what happens on it, is my biggest problem.

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#77 oilbaron
November 18 2013, 06:45PM
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yo rishaug, mellow out there buddy. taking this 'reporter' thing a little too seriously

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#78 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:46PM
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Racki wrote:

Well then, thank god the media is here to correct his behavioral problems.

And I'm not sure how Rayn Smyth's recommendation to Bryzgalov (which I think really could be given to any goalie) is more representative of the general public than people here. I don't see it as anything damning either. Seems like a pretty reasonable comment. Do you think the media was doing us all a solid by making sure Bryzgalov was going to follow Smytty's grand advice?

Affecting Bryzgalov's behaviour is not the media's job nor, I'm sure, was it their intention.

Asking Ryan Smyth about his thoughts on Bryzgalov's potential affect on the dressing room certainly seems like fair game to me.

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#79 Rama Lama
November 18 2013, 06:48PM
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@DSF

Gene, does not need a lot of prompting from me.........but you can bet that Ron McLean will have a fiun time with this as well.

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#80 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 18 2013, 06:48PM
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DSF wrote:

I'm not sure this blog represent the general public very well at all.

There are some concerns about Bryzgalov's past behaviour outlined quite well by Spector here:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bryzgalov-officially-brings-his-act-to-oilers/

Make note of Ryan Smyth's comments.

Ok.

After bad reports from inside the Flyers room, it will be more important what his teammates here think. Eakins has mined all of his sources and claims he was told that Bryzgalov will be a fine teammate. I heard different, and asked veteran Ryan Smyth what Bryzgalov’s priorities should be upon joining his latest team here in Edmonton. “Put the team before yourself,” he says. “And, absolutely, stop the puck. But first and foremost, be a team-first guy.”

Not really sure what I'm supposed to make note of here. Stop pucks and play for the team!

Not exactly an incisive look into the soul and character of Bryz and his reception by the team.

I'm not entirely sure a computer couldn't have generated this quote.

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#81 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:49PM
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merlen wrote:

As per Wikipedia - Selling out is the compromising of integrity, morality, or principles in exchange for personal gain.

Sound like most of the reporters in that room, all looking for the next youtube video response.

Please explain, in detail, how all "the reporters in the room compromised their integrity, morality or principles".

By making a rather odious attack on the character of "all the reporters in the room", I would think you may be compromising at least a couple of the principles you seem to be trying very awkwardly to defend...never mind making a slanderous statement.

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#82 DrunkGuyTy
November 18 2013, 06:49PM
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It drives me nuts when media, fans etc. feel they are 'owed' answers or explanations from athletes. Unless you are paying the guy directly, related to him or screwing him, he doesn't owe you sh!t. I hope we are a better team with Bryz going forward.

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#83 Racki
November 18 2013, 06:53PM
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DSF wrote:

Affecting Bryzgalov's behaviour is not the media's job nor, I'm sure, was it their intention.

Asking Ryan Smyth about his thoughts on Bryzgalov's potential affect on the dressing room certainly seems like fair game to me.

Sure, it's fair game.. and what about his response that I'm supposed to be noting here? This seems like a pretty reasonable comment by Smyth. Again, he could say that about any goalie in the league.

And just what is the media's job then if it's not to ask questions we don't know the answers to and want to hear? It's their job to see if they can badger him into a good quote and give him props when he passes their test?

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#84 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:54PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Ok.

After bad reports from inside the Flyers room, it will be more important what his teammates here think. Eakins has mined all of his sources and claims he was told that Bryzgalov will be a fine teammate. I heard different, and asked veteran Ryan Smyth what Bryzgalov’s priorities should be upon joining his latest team here in Edmonton. “Put the team before yourself,” he says. “And, absolutely, stop the puck. But first and foremost, be a team-first guy.”

Not really sure what I'm supposed to make note of here. Stop pucks and play for the team!

Not exactly an incisive look into the soul and character of Bryz and his reception by the team.

I'm not entirely sure a computer couldn't have generated this quote.

You clearly missed the lede and I'm sure it was intentional on your part.

"After bad reports from inside the Flyers room, it will be more important what his teammates here think."

Now, you may call into question the veracity of those "bad reports" but, unless you are accusing Spector of lying, asking questions of Bryzgalov's new team mates about how they view his arrival seems like a pretty reasonable thing for Spector to do.

As Smyth put it:

"But first and foremost, be a team-first guy.”

Do you believe Bryzgalov is a "team first guy"?

What evidence do you have of that?

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#85 olderthendirt
November 18 2013, 06:55PM
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Многие фанаты масленка надеюсь здоровый КОНКУРСЕ между вами и Dubnyk приведет к сильным Goaltending для остальной части года.

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#86 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:57PM
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Racki wrote:

Sure, it's fair game.. and what about his response that I'm supposed to be noting here? This seems like a pretty reasonable comment by Smyth. Again, he could say that about any goalie in the league.

And just what is the media's job then if it's not to ask questions we don't know the answers to and want to hear? It's their job to see if they can badger him into a good quote and give him props when he passes their test?

If there were no questions about Bryzgalov's bona fides as a team mate, I'm pretty certain Spector wouldn't have asked the question and, even if he did, Smyth would likely have not stressed the "team first" aspect in his answer.

You are jumping to the conclusion, likely based on your personal bias, that the media was "badgering" Bryzgalov.

I certainly didn't hear that.

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#87 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 18 2013, 06:59PM
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The media as well as the fans are guilty of expecting too much. Entitlement knows no boundaries it seems.

Hope Bryz lets his play do the talking. Everyone loves the SUITBSOHC type.

Nobody knows what to expect. Love to see him come in and lay a .940 on this currently toxic hockey market.

My heart says GO OILERS, but my mind looks at the blueliners in front of him and hopes for the best. Best of luck Ilya Bryzgalov.

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#88 DSF
November 18 2013, 06:59PM
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DrunkGuyTy wrote:

It drives me nuts when media, fans etc. feel they are 'owed' answers or explanations from athletes. Unless you are paying the guy directly, related to him or screwing him, he doesn't owe you sh!t. I hope we are a better team with Bryz going forward.

So, what you are saying, in effect, is that any public figure should be above scrutiny unless the media member is directly paying or screwing the public figure?

Have I got that right?

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#89 Racki
November 18 2013, 07:03PM
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DSF wrote:

If there were no questions about Bryzgalov's bona fides as a team mate, I'm pretty certain Spector wouldn't have asked the question and, even if he did, Smyth would likely have not stressed the "team first" aspect in his answer.

You are jumping to the conclusion, likely based on your personal bias, that the media was "badgering" Bryzgalov.

I certainly didn't hear that.

It seems like you're using distraction techniques to drive away from the media questions that people had concerns over. You're talking about a completely different instance now.

So what exactly does asking questions like "how did it make you feel that your team paid you money to not play with them?" and "did it make you angry?" relate to Ryan Smyth's opinion of Bryzgalov as a teammate?

Also, how is the media going to fish out whether Bryzgalov is a good teammate by interviewing him? Oh wait.. that's not their job.. their job is just to get under his skin, right?

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#90 Racki
November 18 2013, 07:06PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

The media as well as the fans are guilty of expecting too much. Entitlement knows no boundaries it seems.

Hope Bryz lets his play do the talking. Everyone loves the SUITBSOHC type.

Nobody knows what to expect. Love to see him come in and lay a .940 on this currently toxic hockey market.

My heart says GO OILERS, but my mind looks at the blueliners in front of him and hopes for the best. Best of luck Ilya Bryzgalov.

Yah that pretty much sums it up. They could have Jesus in net this year, and he wouldn't be able to save enough.

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#91 PutzStew
November 18 2013, 07:09PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

"...You can hear Ryan Rishaug trying to be a tough guy asking the hard questions of the newest Oiler throughout the clip. It would be grand if he would take a similar approach with MacT, Eakins or Lowe who actually have had an impact in the product on the ice not a guy who hasn't even suited up in a single game but there you go."

This ALL DAY LONG.

How about robin? How about going after MacT in the next presser, relentlessly, point by point?

Ryan can't do it to Lowe and MacT because they'll send him gallows if he does. Robin on the other hand…Not on the Oilers Pay Role….GO GET EM CHAMP.

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#92 DSF
November 18 2013, 07:14PM
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@Racki

"So what exactly does asking questions like "how did it make you feel that your team paid you money to not play with them?" and "did it make you angry?" relate to Ryan Smyth's opinion of Bryzgalov as a teammate?"

That's just ridiculous.

The questions about Bryzgalov's buy out and his suitability as a team mate were not related and were not even asked by the same reporter.

You seem to be seeing "the media" as some sort of evil amorphous blob where each individual is responsible for the behaviour of every other individual.

It would appear Spector has done his job by talking to team mates in Philadelphia and then following up how a current team mate views his arrival.

Unless, of course, you think he is lying.

You think their job is to get under his skin.

Can't help you out with your bias buddy.

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#93 Racki
November 18 2013, 07:21PM
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@DSF

Who said I have a hate on for the media? I don't even consider Rishaug an "evil amorphous blob". It seems now that you're creating something out of nothing to support your usual weak argument. If you look back, you'll see that I said I like Ryan Rishaug (one of my favorite reporters, actually)... I just took issue with the couple of questions he asked.

I used the term "Media" for brevity here.. I could have been more specific, naming names and naming specific questions (which I already did), but that would make every reply I make quite verbose.

Anyways, I'm going to follow Mark Twain's sage advice here before you pull me even further under with your nonsensical argument for the sake of argument.

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#94 Rod from Viking
November 18 2013, 07:24PM
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DSF wrote:

"So what exactly does asking questions like "how did it make you feel that your team paid you money to not play with them?" and "did it make you angry?" relate to Ryan Smyth's opinion of Bryzgalov as a teammate?"

That's just ridiculous.

The questions about Bryzgalov's buy out and his suitability as a team mate were not related and were not even asked by the same reporter.

You seem to be seeing "the media" as some sort of evil amorphous blob where each individual is responsible for the behaviour of every other individual.

It would appear Spector has done his job by talking to team mates in Philadelphia and then following up how a current team mate views his arrival.

Unless, of course, you think he is lying.

You think their job is to get under his skin.

Can't help you out with your bias buddy.

Spector has become very anti-Oiler and pro Canucks over the last couple of years, remind you of someone?

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#95 merlen
November 18 2013, 07:25PM
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@DSF

If you re-read my comment, you'll notice I didn't say "all" reporters. I said "most". Meaning the ones asking the stupid questions, trying to get a reaction out of Bryz, so they can have a headline tomorrow.

I'd assume those reporters are educated, but yet, no educated questions...

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#96 DSF
November 18 2013, 07:26PM
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Racki wrote:

Who said I have a hate on for the media? I don't even consider Rishaug an "evil amorphous blob". It seems now that you're creating something out of nothing to support your usual weak argument. If you look back, you'll see that I said I like Ryan Rishaug (one of my favorite reporters, actually)... I just took issue with the couple of questions he asked.

I used the term "Media" for brevity here.. I could have been more specific, naming names and naming specific questions (which I already did), but that would make every reply I make quite verbose.

Anyways, I'm going to follow Mark Twain's sage advice here before you pull me even further under with your nonsensical argument for the sake of argument.

Based on your previous posts I assume this is what you found objectionable?

"Good on Bryzy for answering the questions well, but I think when you ask a guy "how does it feel to be paid not to play for a team" and then "did it make you angry" you're looking for a certain type of response."

How about the reporter was looking for an honest answer?

If this had been a politician who was given a multi million dollar "golden handshake" for dereliction of duty, I'm sure you wouldn't find the questions to be out of line.

Do your sports heroes deserve special treatment?

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#97 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 18 2013, 07:26PM
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DSF wrote:

You clearly missed the lede and I'm sure it was intentional on your part.

"After bad reports from inside the Flyers room, it will be more important what his teammates here think."

Now, you may call into question the veracity of those "bad reports" but, unless you are accusing Spector of lying, asking questions of Bryzgalov's new team mates about how they view his arrival seems like a pretty reasonable thing for Spector to do.

As Smyth put it:

"But first and foremost, be a team-first guy.”

Do you believe Bryzgalov is a "team first guy"?

What evidence do you have of that?

How could I miss it when I quoted it? That doesn't even make sense.

You said: "Make note of Ryan Smyth's comments."

I did, and I made sure to include all the context Spector offered. Not sure what your beef is here.

I haven't accused Spector of anything. Nor have I questioned his asking Smyth (or any other Oiler) about what how they feel about Bryz coming in. That's not even remotely questionable in my book. It would be pure negligence to not ask any team about their thoughts on a new teammate.

Again, I didn't bring this question up and I haven't mentioned Spector at all. We are -- at your insistence -- discussing Smyth's words. Which are… as you would say, pablum.

I have zero evidence Bryz is a good or bad teammate. All I have is a series of reports on how "kooky" he is, which seems like a weird thing to get hectored about, esp. when his version of "kookiness" is pretty damn uninteresting by regular human standards (if not by sports personality standards).

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#98 PutzStew
November 18 2013, 07:27PM
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Naky wrote:

Sorry Wanye, gotta disagree with you on the media being hard on him and trying to make him slip up being a bad thing. He stood in front of a camera just a few years ago and crapped all over this city and its fanbase all the while laughing about it and talking down to the reporters. He had no problem speaking his mind then.

It's about karma. It always comes back to bite you in the ass. Right now, it's biting him in the ass. Hard. He never thought he'd ever be in this position, forced to sign with the one city he publicly trashed because nobody else would give him the time of day. He's eating humble pie and should swallow every little crumb of it.

So no. I welcome his discomfort. I want him under fire and mad. I want him itching to prove everyone wrong all the time because that means he's going to play harder - and perhaps more importantly, become a better person for it in the end.

He's learning a hard lesson. Let's find out if it sticks or if it's just lip service in the end.

Speaking of Karma…I've been wondering when it is going to come bit J. Shultz in the but after not signing in Anaheim. I can think of more guys who ended bad then good after the dissed a team (Heatley, Pronger, Lindros, ETC.)

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#99 DSF
November 18 2013, 07:28PM
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merlen wrote:

If you re-read my comment, you'll notice I didn't say "all" reporters. I said "most". Meaning the ones asking the stupid questions, trying to get a reaction out of Bryz, so they can have a headline tomorrow.

I'd assume those reporters are educated, but yet, no educated questions...

Which reporters then?

Name them or you're tarring all of them with the same brush.

And here's something for you...

What are 5 questions you would have asked Bryzgalov that would have elicited any meaningful answers?

Go.

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#100 DSF
November 18 2013, 07:31PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Spector has become very anti-Oiler and pro Canucks over the last couple of years, remind you of someone?

He has a unique perspective to view the performance of a very well run organization vs. a very dysfunctional one.

No surprise you might see it that way.

His job is NOT to be a cheerleader.

Staufer already got that job.

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