GDB 15.0: RED WINGS

Wanye
November 02 2013 01:09PM

 

Jason Gregor texted me to say "I have baby business to attend to on Saturday. Gregor 2,0 is only weeks away. I will need you to write the GDB for the Red Wings game." "Me?" we replied "last time I wrote a GDB people said it was silly and cried for you to write every one until 2099."

Well one doesn't argue with Jason Gregor if one hopes to be alive for the next Oilers win. So here goes nothing.

AND SO IT CONTINUES

How many ways are there to say that the Oilers rebuild is taking longer than it took to rebuild Europe after WWII?  At some point we start to scramble for new acronyms making a chase for last place an exciting proposition.

After the pantsing the Leafs gave the Oil on Tuesday - in front of LeafsNation Steve Dangle who had flown in for the match no less - it is hard to make bold predictions of Oilers wins. We sat there at Rexall Place, next to the King of all Maple Leafs fans watching them cheer and smile and raise their fists in triumph. We want that so badly for all our fellow Oilers fans it hurts.

Yes, if you told us "Wanye, all you have to do is get hit by a car and the Oil will turn around quick as a flash" we would run screaming from Wanye Manor and get hit square by the first motorcar we happened to see. Sadly it ain't that easy. But there are still things we can do as Oilers fans to try and turn the ship around.

In fact we have an idea.

AN IDEA

We hockey fans are a superstitious lot. Lucky underwear, lucky beer brand, lucky type of fur coat deodorizer. Cheering from the same seat on the couch. We all have some little foible we cling to in the hopes it makes our beloved Oilers win. Well Nation whatever we are doing is wrong.

We need to collectively reboot our lucky charms and send a wave of new karma out into the universe. Rather than focusing on what we don't want - more losses, more injuries, more Grebeshkovs in the lineup - we need to take new actions focused on what we want.

Wins.

Pictured at the top of the article is our most prized possession - our Eberle jersey purchased minutes after 14 scored his mind shattering first goal in the NHL. Thinking it was lucky we haven't so much as cleaned it once in the 4 years since. At the quarter pole of his 5th season it is clear the luck ain't working.

So we took the jersey to the cleaners on Thursday and got it back clean as clean can be. This was our major good luck charm these past 4 years and we wouldn't dream of doing this normally. But drastic times call for drastic measures. We invite you to reconsider whatever lucky charms you have and bring new ones out. The team needs it Nation. It's the only thing left we can think of doing.

Let us know if you think of anything you can do to reboot the franchise's luck. Burn your lucky drawers. Switch brands of game day beer. Remarry a new luckier wife if you think it will help. Just do something positive that is a break with the past.

We beg you.

LINEUP - GOOD

 

According to DailyFaceOff.com the Oilers are icing the forward corps above and the defensive pairings below. And according to the very same site Bachman will get the start in between the pipes tonight.

LINEUP - BAD

 

Forwards up, defense below and something called a Petr Mrazek will be tending for the Wings tonight. Poor bugger won't even have a chance. 

 

PREDICTIONS R US

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Oilers win 4-2 shocking many including the Oilers themselves.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: During the second intermission Coack Babcock screams at Mrazek to step his game up to which the goalie tearfully replies "I don't even know who I am. WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH DID YOU START ME IN AN NHL GAME?"

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Hearing about the jersey cleaning Jordan Eberle pots a pair of goals. In the post game scrum he comments "I knew something was holding me back this year. Here all this time it was a ratty jersey covered in shots of Jack Daniels from the Pint. I wish Wanye had gotten his hygenic act together years ago."

Hearing my name mentioned by King Jordan I immediately transcend into a beam of pure joy and shoot into space.

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#351 Zamboni Driver
November 03 2013, 10:20AM
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@michael

WOW!

You picked the number of points EXACTLY?

What are the chances?

You're a genius!

And in your professional, way smarter and more level-headed than everyone else, opinion...the Oilers will "not make the playoffs". I'm glad you clarified. I will cancel the appointment with my bookie in Vegas.

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#352 Zarny
November 03 2013, 10:23AM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

This whole mess is on upper management, remember after the 06 run, Pronger traded for peanuts, overpaying Horcoff, Pisani etc, trading the young core that actually had some size and grit (Stoll,Green and Torres), offer sheets to Penner and Vanek, this not only was the beginning of the end it enabled the Ducks and Kings to win a cup. Stauffer was so adamant that EIG sell to Katz and what a difference it would make and a lot of us bought in because we had loved Bob's candidacy at another time and place radio show. Well it has made a huge difference, Katz got a new toy, Stauffer got his dream job, and Kevin Lowe got an apparent live time contract. It would not have been to difficult to have drafted smarter on the 2012 FOA and bridge contracts for the fab 3 would have been more logical. I am a tier 1 season ticket holder and leaving the seats empty not giving them away and no renewals is the only way anything is going to change and that is tough at the price we paid for them but an empty building will produce changes.

Actually we didn't get peanuts for Pronger.

We got Smid, Joffrey Lupul, a draft pick which was flipped for Marincin, a conditional pick which turned out to be Jordan Eberle and a 2nd round pick which turned into Oscar Klefbom.

That's pretty good return for a guy everyone knew wanted out of town ASAP.

Offer sheets to Vanek and Penner. Skipping bridge contracts with Hall, Ebs and Nuge.

You don't seem to realize Edm is the 29th most popular destination for free agents...just ahead of Buffalo.

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#353 boxman
November 03 2013, 10:27AM
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michael wrote:

Suck it up you bunch of fair weather pansies. What did you expect coming out of the gate this season? 10-0 ,20-0.

I expected just what I am seeing. I thought we would get 8 points in October. We got 8 points.

There was o way in my mind that we were going to any better. No RNH.NO Gagner.New systems. New coaches. New coaches. The chemistry for this team was and is so messed up its not even funny.

Who expected to win last night give your head a shake.

A veteran team that plays a system that they have had for years under a coach they have had for years with a group of players that have played together for years. Yup we should have beaten that team.

Reality check over. Now that you've all been put in your right frame of mind I'll tell you what else I believe.

I believe that this team will not make the playoffs. Given what we know about the analytics that was easy to say. The harder thing to say is that I believe that Dallas Eakins will turn this team around by the Olympic break. Till then it will not be pretty. At all. Put your fire Klowes,trade Yakupov, and all your other fear driven ideas to rest and for the next little while watch this team learn and grow. It'll like watching a two year old toddler. It won't be pretty but eventually the toddler learns.

Fair weather pansies you say......I say lose your holier than thou attitude and give your own head a shake. The seats I was " lucky " enough to be gifted last night are $280 each. For that princely sum I didn't see one Oiler player that gave his best. You in all your self anointed glory prattle on how you predicted this calamity. Who the hell cares what you predict! People paying $280 a night for tickets damn well don't. If people want to watch a toddler grow they will check out the tom thumbs at the local rink. There were 17,000 at Rexall last night that hoped for the Oilers to put forth a professional effort. It didn't happen and hasn't happened far too often. If you want to talk reality checks try watching the effort the Flames put out compared to the Oilers. I guess what I'm trying to say if you are all for patience and watching the Oiler toddlers grow there is a long line up of season ticket holders willing to sell you their tickets while this is happening! Child....please.

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#354 Zarny
November 03 2013, 10:30AM
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michael wrote:

Suck it up you bunch of fair weather pansies. What did you expect coming out of the gate this season? 10-0 ,20-0.

I expected just what I am seeing. I thought we would get 8 points in October. We got 8 points.

There was o way in my mind that we were going to any better. No RNH.NO Gagner.New systems. New coaches. New coaches. The chemistry for this team was and is so messed up its not even funny.

Who expected to win last night give your head a shake.

A veteran team that plays a system that they have had for years under a coach they have had for years with a group of players that have played together for years. Yup we should have beaten that team.

Reality check over. Now that you've all been put in your right frame of mind I'll tell you what else I believe.

I believe that this team will not make the playoffs. Given what we know about the analytics that was easy to say. The harder thing to say is that I believe that Dallas Eakins will turn this team around by the Olympic break. Till then it will not be pretty. At all. Put your fire Klowes,trade Yakupov, and all your other fear driven ideas to rest and for the next little while watch this team learn and grow. It'll like watching a two year old toddler. It won't be pretty but eventually the toddler learns.

100% correct.

It's sad how many people wet their pants after one month.

Based on their career Octobers Iginla and Luongo wouldn't even be NHL players.

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#355 Zamboni Driver
November 03 2013, 10:32AM
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@Zarny

Oh another person smarter than all the rest of us.

Good.

you let us know when it's okay to be concerned.

3 wins in 15 games is not a problem then. Second last in the NHL is a-okay. WHEW. Here I thought the point was to, you know, WIN a few more.

In fact the point is.........well actually I don't know.

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#356 SRELIOFAN
November 03 2013, 10:36AM
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Before the season started, I moved to Vancouver and got a new job working evenings and I was sad that I wouldn't be able to watch all of my beloved Oilers games. I wanted so badly for us to start being competitive and winning against teams like the goddamn canucks so I could rub it into their fan's faces for once. Instead, I had to delete my Oilers background from my phone so I would stop getting the sarcastic comments and harassment from my coworkers. I wanted to wear my oilers jersey with pride in another city. I'm pretty sure the copper on my jersey has faded to a poop colored brown from being unused. Needless to say, I can't watch the games and I'm not even mad. Just sad. Maybe not even sad. Numb is more like it.

On a lighter note, on Tuesday, I'm going to put on my Oil Kings jersey with pride and go watch the only team that Edmonton can be proud and unashamed of.

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#357 rob
November 03 2013, 10:37AM
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Hire Gordon Ramsey as the coach,mabey he could motivate these guys!

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#358 DSF
November 03 2013, 10:42AM
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Amidst all the teeth gnashing I thought some observations from the around the league might be of interest:

1) The Edmonton Oilers recorded 14 SOG last night. Alex Edler recorded 12.

2) James Mirtle ‏@mirtle

According to Elias Sports Bureau, Colorado is the fifth team in NHL history to begin a season by winning 12 of its first 13 games.

3) Terry Jones ‏@sunterryjones

Edmonton dropped from eighth to 14th in faceoffs in one game. Sam Gagner won one faceoff of 11 and wasn't sent to the dot in the 3rd period

4) Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

CAR puts Brett Sutter on waivers.

5) Extra Skater ‏@ExtraSkater

Last night's possession all-stars (5v5 corsi): Hamhuis 89% (31-4), Tanev 87% (26-4), Drew Miller 86% (19-3), Santorelli 83% (24-5) Retweeted by Scott Cullen

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#359 MMAX
November 03 2013, 10:47AM
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When is somebody(Katz) gonna say enough is enough? Does he even care? It makes me sick to see the cameras showing shots of Lowe and MacT up in the box with dumbfounded looks on their faces. When is this nightmare ever going to end? It seemed that Feaster was the laughing stock of GMs but not anymore. It's time for Mr. K to take his head out of his a** and do something. I've pretty much given up hope, this season is done already. Last night was the first game I watched in a long time; nothing better to do with all the snow, plus I had a 6 pack to kill left over from Halloween. I didn't get mad or yell at the tv, I just accepted the fact that we are just not good enough,and haven't been since 2006. The Oil Change series is nothing but a joke and losing is going to happen year after until something is done. "I'm pretty confident we can see some significant growth in the near future"...with those words MacT,you and Lowe need to go.

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#360 boxman
November 03 2013, 10:47AM
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Zarny wrote:

100% correct.

It's sad how many people wet their pants after one month.

Based on their career Octobers Iginla and Luongo wouldn't even be NHL players.

Zarny I think it is just wonderful that after remembering only one month of watching the Oilers you feel qualified to lecture people who have been ardent fans for years and years. I wish you would explain to the rest of us how to empty our heads so thoroughly that the years and years of futility and incompetence do not exist. Thank you so much for your empathy towards us bed wetters that wore a helmet playing football! Had we known what you and Michel knew we would have ditched our helmets also so we couldn't remember Klowe et al these past many years.

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#361 boxman
November 03 2013, 10:47AM
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Zarny wrote:

100% correct.

It's sad how many people wet their pants after one month.

Based on their career Octobers Iginla and Luongo wouldn't even be NHL players.

Zarny I think it is just wonderful that after remembering only one month of watching the Oilers you feel qualified to lecture people who have been ardent fans for years and years. I wish you would explain to the rest of us how to empty our heads so thoroughly that the years and years of futility and incompetence do not exist. Thank you so much for your empathy towards us bed wetters that wore a helmet playing football! Had we known what you and Michel knew we would have ditched our helmets also so we couldn't remember Klowe et al these past many years.

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#362 VK63
November 03 2013, 10:55AM
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Out with the trash wrote:

I have been trying to figure out how to best convey how I feel about the current Oilers situation. As a second generation ticket holder I have been attending games since the age of 5. In that time I have seen some highs and lows, but last night I witnessed something else. The passion for this team has turned into apathy. I thought it was bad in the mid 90's when I'd be in the stands with 6000 other fans watching abysmal hockey played by a sub par team. Last night almost 17,000 fans showed up to watch the Oil. Except the Oil didn't show up. I have been as loyal a fan as I could possibly be. But now is the time to cut my losses. It has become painfully obvious that the only thing the Oilers want from me is my money. Well, no more money for you. I am cutting you off. No more driving thru blizzards for games, no more jerseys, hats, nothing. I am washing my hands of this team. I have paid over $300,000 in tickets since the Oilers last playoff game. I bought into the rebuild but this is not a rebuild it is a fleecing. My seats will remain vacant for the remainder of the season and the ticket renewal notice and calls will be left unanswered at years end. The Oilers will undoubtedly fill my seats next year but for the first time in almost 36 years. I don't care. I sincerely hope for the best for the Oilers but I am no longer willing waste my time or throw away money on the garbage product that has been on display since 2007. Ah... Now to get rid of this CoolAide taste left in my mouth.

300K!! nicely done!! I feel your pain on the value analytics of said "investment".

In the words of homer Simpson.. they really are the suckiest bunch of sucks that have ever sucked.

I am shocked that Wanye dry cleaning his jersey didn't turn this thing around.... simply shocked.

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#363 Dave
November 03 2013, 10:57AM
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Have you noticed that the coaches, managers and players who do a lot of talking seldom deliver where it counts .

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#364 Oiler Al
November 03 2013, 11:33AM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Oh another person smarter than all the rest of us.

Good.

you let us know when it's okay to be concerned.

3 wins in 15 games is not a problem then. Second last in the NHL is a-okay. WHEW. Here I thought the point was to, you know, WIN a few more.

In fact the point is.........well actually I don't know.

Zanboni Driver, watch what the heck you say about Zarny, ... why the other day he posted that he was a graduate engineer and was making $200 grand a year.... You dont want to mess with that genius, he might fall of his pedestal.

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#365 Rama Lama
November 03 2013, 11:52AM
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Well it's a good thing we have a coach who can teach something to the opposition players..........players like Lars Eller.

Now if we can get our coach to teach something to our team ..........we should be good.

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#366 boxman
November 03 2013, 11:54AM
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@Oiler Al

So your an engineer Zarny.......terrific. Can we draw an analogy that you are like a toddler at your new job and we should enjoy watching you grow as bridge after bridge falls down? If so I may become a serial pants wetter as I am worrying over which bridges you helped build while you allowed yourself an unlimited learning curve on the job! Makes me worry that Klowe may be in charge of our education system also. Yikes!!

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#367 The Real Gongshow
November 03 2013, 11:55AM
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This organization is getting what it deserves. What an f**cking joke. Perennial Cellar Dwellers. "When we challenge for a cup again". Ya right. None of the current fans will be alive when that sh*tshow commences. Hey Oilers !?! Leave me alone, get off my tv. More importantly, get out of my life !!

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#368 K_Mart
November 03 2013, 11:57AM
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Zarny wrote:

100% correct.

It's sad how many people wet their pants after one month.

Based on their career Octobers Iginla and Luongo wouldn't even be NHL players.

It's not October. It's every game for the last 7 years.

I didn't expect the Oilers to win last night. I never expect teh Oilers to win. But I certainly expected a better effort than what was on display.

The team is trash. It's obvious. Everything is as bad or worse than it was last year.

Turnovers are up, corsi is where it was, physicality is where it was, injuries are wwaaaaaaaaaaaay up.

Eakins has the toughest job in the nhl, and I have nothing but sympathy for him.

The oilers need to stop saying the right things and start DOING the right things.

Suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. Until they prove otherwise, they are trash.

Get healthy, and start playing properly.

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#369 Reg Dunlop
November 03 2013, 11:57AM
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@boxman

Zarny is an engineer? Wow, I always wanted to drive a train.

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#370 pkam
November 03 2013, 11:59AM
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I grew up playing soccer instead of hockey since grade 3.

One game I'll never forget is when I was in grade 9, we supposed to have a friendly match against another grade 9 team, but end up playing a bunch of grad 5/6 kids because the other team didn't show up, and those grade 5/6 kids were so looking forward to playing bigger kids.

Because of the age and size, we agreed to play a handicapped game of 7 vs 11. I still remembered those grade 5/6 kids worked so hard. 10 of them, except the goalie would rush to the ball carrier, leaving 5 of us totally open. When one of them had the ball, he would carry the ball all the way to our net, and the other 9 will run with him. But I don't know why they even border because they wouldn't pass back and forth.

Not say the Oilers are like that grade 5/6 soccer team, but the way they played certainly reminds me of that grade 5/6 soccer team.

I don't think it is lack of effort from the Oilers. I saw them try hard but effort alone doesn't bring result. 2 or 3 players chasing the puck whole night long isn't the best way to use your effort. And trying to beat the opponent with skill instead of team work also is not a very efficient way to consume your energy.

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#371 Sean17
November 03 2013, 12:03PM
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Is this a record for most posted comments on Oilersnation???

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#372 PutzStew
November 03 2013, 12:04PM
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MattL wrote:

What exactly is firing KLowe going to fix about this team today? Do you mean you want a new GM? Do you want a better coach? Different players? Who do you suggest as replacements? Because if you fire KLowe, one or more of those things is probably going to happen too.

Or do you just want to see someone punished for hurting your poor hockey feelings?

None of the Above. The answer you are looking for is attitude and this poor attitude started at the top (See Mr. Six Stanley Cup Rings). To be honest if I was a fan anymore I would be calling for the head of Katz after he screwed you on the arena deal but hey what do I care. Those aren't my tax payer dollars.

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#373 K_Mart
November 03 2013, 12:07PM
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The solution has to come from the players in the room, and it has to happen every shift from here on. Sadly, I no longer believe we have the players in place to accomplish that task.

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#374 dasVedania
November 03 2013, 12:13PM
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Can we send Yakupov back to the KHL ? He's making Alexandre Daigle look like an all star.

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#375 Rama Lama
November 03 2013, 12:14PM
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I believe that the coach has been tuned out by the players. It's hard to come to the realization by Mac T that this coach is ' done like dinner"!

Yes he was a good coach for opposition players like Lars Eller.......man did he teach him something. The problem is he never taught our players anything, except not to eat donuts.

HIs systems and philosophies were never embraced by any team members except Andrew Ference. His line combinations were idiotic. His line match-ups even worse. He made the PP a joke. He made the PK a joke. He regularly told his players it was all their fault by not working hard enough.

By any measure it's patently obvious that the players stopped playing for him.

If I were Katz I would ask one question.........if the Oilers were Rexall Drugs, would he put up with this?

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#376 K_Mart
November 03 2013, 12:21PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I believe that the coach has been tuned out by the players. It's hard to come to the realization by Mac T that this coach is ' done like dinner"!

Yes he was a good coach for opposition players like Lars Eller.......man did he teach him something. The problem is he never taught our players anything, except not to eat donuts.

HIs systems and philosophies were never embraced by any team members except Andrew Ference. His line combinations were idiotic. His line match-ups even worse. He made the PP a joke. He made the PK a joke. He regularly told his players it was all their fault by not working hard enough.

By any measure it's patently obvious that the players stopped playing for him.

If I were Katz I would ask one question.........if the Oilers were Rexall Drugs, would he put up with this?

If the oilers were Rexall Drugs? Well, the seats are always full and pages like this one are getting 400+ comments on articles. I'd say the $$ is still flowing.

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#377 Seriously
November 03 2013, 12:28PM
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michael wrote:

Suck it up you bunch of fair weather pansies. What did you expect coming out of the gate this season? 10-0 ,20-0.

I expected just what I am seeing. I thought we would get 8 points in October. We got 8 points.

There was o way in my mind that we were going to any better. No RNH.NO Gagner.New systems. New coaches. New coaches. The chemistry for this team was and is so messed up its not even funny.

Who expected to win last night give your head a shake.

A veteran team that plays a system that they have had for years under a coach they have had for years with a group of players that have played together for years. Yup we should have beaten that team.

Reality check over. Now that you've all been put in your right frame of mind I'll tell you what else I believe.

I believe that this team will not make the playoffs. Given what we know about the analytics that was easy to say. The harder thing to say is that I believe that Dallas Eakins will turn this team around by the Olympic break. Till then it will not be pretty. At all. Put your fire Klowes,trade Yakupov, and all your other fear driven ideas to rest and for the next little while watch this team learn and grow. It'll like watching a two year old toddler. It won't be pretty but eventually the toddler learns.

What kinda oh $hit are you smoking?!? I want some of that!!!' If this is what your expecting from these hockey players, that are making that kind of money for 8 points???? And showing that kind of effort!!!!! Give your head a shake!!! Oh and thanks a lot Captin obvious!! "I believe the team will not make the playoffs." NO $HIT..

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#378 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 03 2013, 12:32PM
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No new article today - even the Nation guys are too disgusted to write about this debacle.

Can't say I blame 'em.

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#379 Sammer003
November 03 2013, 12:37PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

They now don't play a home game for eleven days. I bet they will be happy to get on the charter.

Schedule KLowe, MacT and Howeson on a private Sikorski Helicopter and have the pilot take the long way.

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#380 #ThereGoesTheOilers
November 03 2013, 12:41PM
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Laughing from comments that some of us will never shop at a Rexall store again.

Right, just like you told Bettman you would never spend another dime on NHL merchandise again.

I'm fine now, but even after fifteen hours elapsed, I still feel really bad for Eakins and his family. They deserve better.

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#381 Sammer003
November 03 2013, 12:43PM
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rob wrote:

Hire Gordon Ramsey as the coach,mabey he could motivate these guys!

Make Lars Eller his assistant - Eller seems to motivate the Oilers.

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#382 6 ring circus
November 03 2013, 12:49PM
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@DSFisGay

There is a reason why there is a trash button on posts,just because you don't agree with what someone posts ,it does not give you the right to personally attack someone like you did.This is a oilers fans site maybe try sticking to what's been posted instead of bashing someone.I may not agree with what gets posted on here sometimes but you have crossed the line .

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#383 Rod from Viking
November 03 2013, 01:05PM
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@#ThereGoesTheOilers

I also feel sorry for the Eakins and the Mctavish family, I am however going to by my personal items from London Drugs, it is the more expensive brand name Viagra, no more erexall for this cowboy.

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#384 Jason Gregor
November 03 2013, 01:39PM
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Sean17 wrote:

Is this a record for most posted comments on Oilersnation???

Not even close actually...we've had 1000 comments in an article before.

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#385 Zarny
November 03 2013, 02:25PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Oh another person smarter than all the rest of us.

Good.

you let us know when it's okay to be concerned.

3 wins in 15 games is not a problem then. Second last in the NHL is a-okay. WHEW. Here I thought the point was to, you know, WIN a few more.

In fact the point is.........well actually I don't know.

Nope, not smarter than the rest. But smart enough to know you don't panic in a crisis. No matter how big your problem is, you can always make it worse.

3 wins in 15 games is certainly a problem. It's just not that surprising. The Oilers were destined for a slow start. 7 wins by now was probably best case scenario.

So this season isn't best case. You don't wet your pants.

The criticism of the team's play is accurate; but what did you expect from a group of 19-21 y/o supported by the deepest 5-7 D in the league and a G who might be good enough to make the playoffs?

That's where this team is at. 1st overall picks don't come with magical pixie dust from a land of unicorns and rainbows. They still take years to fully develop. And you need depth to win.

Eakins isn't the problem anymore than Oates was last year in Wsh. Ovechkin sh*t the bed the first 20 games of last year too. His approach is the right one.

Let me grab my shocked face 19-21 y/o kids who average 122 NHL games make mistakes learning a new system against the best players in the game.

Bold Moves™ are required. Knew that before the season started. Nothing has changed. Those moves aren't usually available 15 games into a season. And you don't pull a Mike Milbury to salvage 10th place.

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#386 Zarny
November 03 2013, 02:28PM
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I believe that the coach has been tuned out by the players. It's hard to come to the realization by Mac T that this coach is ' done like dinner"!

Yes he was a good coach for opposition players like Lars Eller.......man did he teach him something. The problem is he never taught our players anything, except not to eat donuts.

HIs systems and philosophies were never embraced by any team members except Andrew Ference. His line combinations were idiotic. His line match-ups even worse. He made the PP a joke. He made the PK a joke. He regularly told his players it was all their fault by not working hard enough.

By any measure it's patently obvious that the players stopped playing for him.

If I were Katz I would ask one question.........if the Oilers were Rexall Drugs, would he put up with this?

And you deduce all this after 15 games lol.

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CAR puts Brett Sutter on waivers.

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There's a kid we could sure use. Wonder what happened to that kid. Check that, didn't he get moved to Pittsburgh in that Jordan Stall deal.

Are we talking about the same Sutter kid?

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And you deduce all this after 15 games lol.

Those 15 games will appear very important when the Oilers run out of runway (games) in April.

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#389 MICHAEL
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WOW!

You picked the number of points EXACTLY?

What are the chances?

You're a genius!

And in your professional, way smarter and more level-headed than everyone else, opinion...the Oilers will "not make the playoffs". I'm glad you clarified. I will cancel the appointment with my bookie in Vegas.

lOOK BACK AND YOU'LL SEE I DID INDEED POST BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED THAT THE OILERS WOULD GET 8 POINTS THIS MONTH.

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#390 Lars Eller
November 03 2013, 04:15PM
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BOOM!!! Now people, are we actually on the same page here???

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#391 Rama Lama
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And you deduce all this after 15 games lol.

In one word YES!

Would you rather replace one coach or start trading the entire team...........good decision genius!

I like Dallas Eakins and his style, swagger.......call it what you will..........but when the team regresses in every department someone has to go. We all know that KLowe is not going nowhere, either is his best friends Buchy and Smith, so that only leaves DE.

I for one refuse to believe that every player all of a sudden lost their skill, will, and desire to play hockey. Most of the players trained off-season harder than they ever did in their careers, so it can't be that they are not in shape. Yes injuries and goaltending have played a huge role........but every team outside of Colorado has suffered from this.

When I see players who do not know whom to cover after 15 games, missed assignments, bad line changes, no puck support, no shots on net, and no ability to make a pass stick..........I'm thinking it's a bad system.

When players stop playing, it's usually due to coaching. DE is a good man but he is NOT succeeding. Time for a complete change.........all coaching staff must go! Bring in Brent Sutter while we still can.

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#392 Harry
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100% correct.

It's sad how many people wet their pants after one month.

Based on their career Octobers Iginla and Luongo wouldn't even be NHL players.

Its been 7 years numbnuts. Not one month.

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#393 Rod from Viking
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

CAR puts Brett Sutter on waivers.

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There's a kid we could sure use. Wonder what happened to that kid. Check that, didn't he get moved to Pittsburgh in that Jordan Stall deal.

Are we talking about the same Sutter kid?

No this is Darryl's son, he has spent most of his career in the minors, the one you are thinking of is Brandon and yes he would be a great fit on this team.

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My bad, big difference between the two. Thanks for clarifying that Rod.

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