GDB 15.0: RED WINGS

Wanye
November 02 2013 01:09PM

 

Jason Gregor texted me to say "I have baby business to attend to on Saturday. Gregor 2,0 is only weeks away. I will need you to write the GDB for the Red Wings game." "Me?" we replied "last time I wrote a GDB people said it was silly and cried for you to write every one until 2099."

Well one doesn't argue with Jason Gregor if one hopes to be alive for the next Oilers win. So here goes nothing.

AND SO IT CONTINUES

How many ways are there to say that the Oilers rebuild is taking longer than it took to rebuild Europe after WWII?  At some point we start to scramble for new acronyms making a chase for last place an exciting proposition.

After the pantsing the Leafs gave the Oil on Tuesday - in front of LeafsNation Steve Dangle who had flown in for the match no less - it is hard to make bold predictions of Oilers wins. We sat there at Rexall Place, next to the King of all Maple Leafs fans watching them cheer and smile and raise their fists in triumph. We want that so badly for all our fellow Oilers fans it hurts.

Yes, if you told us "Wanye, all you have to do is get hit by a car and the Oil will turn around quick as a flash" we would run screaming from Wanye Manor and get hit square by the first motorcar we happened to see. Sadly it ain't that easy. But there are still things we can do as Oilers fans to try and turn the ship around.

In fact we have an idea.

AN IDEA

We hockey fans are a superstitious lot. Lucky underwear, lucky beer brand, lucky type of fur coat deodorizer. Cheering from the same seat on the couch. We all have some little foible we cling to in the hopes it makes our beloved Oilers win. Well Nation whatever we are doing is wrong.

We need to collectively reboot our lucky charms and send a wave of new karma out into the universe. Rather than focusing on what we don't want - more losses, more injuries, more Grebeshkovs in the lineup - we need to take new actions focused on what we want.

Wins.

Pictured at the top of the article is our most prized possession - our Eberle jersey purchased minutes after 14 scored his mind shattering first goal in the NHL. Thinking it was lucky we haven't so much as cleaned it once in the 4 years since. At the quarter pole of his 5th season it is clear the luck ain't working.

So we took the jersey to the cleaners on Thursday and got it back clean as clean can be. This was our major good luck charm these past 4 years and we wouldn't dream of doing this normally. But drastic times call for drastic measures. We invite you to reconsider whatever lucky charms you have and bring new ones out. The team needs it Nation. It's the only thing left we can think of doing.

Let us know if you think of anything you can do to reboot the franchise's luck. Burn your lucky drawers. Switch brands of game day beer. Remarry a new luckier wife if you think it will help. Just do something positive that is a break with the past.

We beg you.

LINEUP - GOOD

 

According to DailyFaceOff.com the Oilers are icing the forward corps above and the defensive pairings below. And according to the very same site Bachman will get the start in between the pipes tonight.

LINEUP - BAD

 

Forwards up, defense below and something called a Petr Mrazek will be tending for the Wings tonight. Poor bugger won't even have a chance. 

 

PREDICTIONS R US

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Oilers win 4-2 shocking many including the Oilers themselves.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: During the second intermission Coack Babcock screams at Mrazek to step his game up to which the goalie tearfully replies "I don't even know who I am. WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH DID YOU START ME IN AN NHL GAME?"

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Hearing about the jersey cleaning Jordan Eberle pots a pair of goals. In the post game scrum he comments "I knew something was holding me back this year. Here all this time it was a ratty jersey covered in shots of Jack Daniels from the Pint. I wish Wanye had gotten his hygenic act together years ago."

Hearing my name mentioned by King Jordan I immediately transcend into a beam of pure joy and shoot into space.

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#301 Rod from Viking
November 03 2013, 09:24AM
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Marty wrote:

Wrong. Katz likes money. Stop giving him your money and maybe they will need to realize that fans are customers. Buying tickets and not using them is stupid. Stop buying tickets. Take your tickets and show up with a paper bag head, or a sign that says "I now cheer for the Leafs/Flames/Anybody else".

Coming from a tier-2 fan who hasn't spent a dime on Oilers anything since before the lockout. Take my opinion for what it's worth.

I can't get the money back from this years tickets,leave them empty for the rest of season and don't renew or do your idea and yes all fans opinion's are equally important, a piece of paper(or a stupid card) doesn't make you a better or more important you just have less money.

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#302 morgie
November 03 2013, 09:32AM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

This whole mess is on upper management, remember after the 06 run, Pronger traded for peanuts, overpaying Horcoff, Pisani etc, trading the young core that actually had some size and grit (Stoll,Green and Torres), offer sheets to Penner and Vanek, this not only was the beginning of the end it enabled the Ducks and Kings to win a cup. Stauffer was so adamant that EIG sell to Katz and what a difference it would make and a lot of us bought in because we had loved Bob's candidacy at another time and place radio show. Well it has made a huge difference, Katz got a new toy, Stauffer got his dream job, and Kevin Lowe got an apparent live time contract. It would not have been to difficult to have drafted smarter on the 2012 FOA and bridge contracts for the fab 3 would have been more logical. I am a tier 1 season ticket holder and leaving the seats empty not giving them away and no renewals is the only way anything is going to change and that is tough at the price we paid for them but an empty building will produce changes.

And the best part is we are building a Taj Mahal mostly on tax payor money, handing over all building profits, merely for rent, subsidized for the first 10 years no less, for the privilege of doing this, we get to pay more for concerts etc

Yeehaw good times!

On second thought, it's not all that bad because if winning is ever a concern, we have the assurance from Kevin Lowe he can change that LMAO

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#303 Zarny
November 03 2013, 10:30AM
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michael wrote:

Suck it up you bunch of fair weather pansies. What did you expect coming out of the gate this season? 10-0 ,20-0.

I expected just what I am seeing. I thought we would get 8 points in October. We got 8 points.

There was o way in my mind that we were going to any better. No RNH.NO Gagner.New systems. New coaches. New coaches. The chemistry for this team was and is so messed up its not even funny.

Who expected to win last night give your head a shake.

A veteran team that plays a system that they have had for years under a coach they have had for years with a group of players that have played together for years. Yup we should have beaten that team.

Reality check over. Now that you've all been put in your right frame of mind I'll tell you what else I believe.

I believe that this team will not make the playoffs. Given what we know about the analytics that was easy to say. The harder thing to say is that I believe that Dallas Eakins will turn this team around by the Olympic break. Till then it will not be pretty. At all. Put your fire Klowes,trade Yakupov, and all your other fear driven ideas to rest and for the next little while watch this team learn and grow. It'll like watching a two year old toddler. It won't be pretty but eventually the toddler learns.

100% correct.

It's sad how many people wet their pants after one month.

Based on their career Octobers Iginla and Luongo wouldn't even be NHL players.

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#304 boxman
November 03 2013, 11:54AM
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@Oiler Al

So your an engineer Zarny.......terrific. Can we draw an analogy that you are like a toddler at your new job and we should enjoy watching you grow as bridge after bridge falls down? If so I may become a serial pants wetter as I am worrying over which bridges you helped build while you allowed yourself an unlimited learning curve on the job! Makes me worry that Klowe may be in charge of our education system also. Yikes!!

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#305 pkam
November 03 2013, 11:59AM
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I grew up playing soccer instead of hockey since grade 3.

One game I'll never forget is when I was in grade 9, we supposed to have a friendly match against another grade 9 team, but end up playing a bunch of grad 5/6 kids because the other team didn't show up, and those grade 5/6 kids were so looking forward to playing bigger kids.

Because of the age and size, we agreed to play a handicapped game of 7 vs 11. I still remembered those grade 5/6 kids worked so hard. 10 of them, except the goalie would rush to the ball carrier, leaving 5 of us totally open. When one of them had the ball, he would carry the ball all the way to our net, and the other 9 will run with him. But I don't know why they even border because they wouldn't pass back and forth.

Not say the Oilers are like that grade 5/6 soccer team, but the way they played certainly reminds me of that grade 5/6 soccer team.

I don't think it is lack of effort from the Oilers. I saw them try hard but effort alone doesn't bring result. 2 or 3 players chasing the puck whole night long isn't the best way to use your effort. And trying to beat the opponent with skill instead of team work also is not a very efficient way to consume your energy.

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#306 dasVedania
November 03 2013, 12:13PM
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Can we send Yakupov back to the KHL ? He's making Alexandre Daigle look like an all star.

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#307 Slats
November 02 2013, 03:21PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

Wanye: I was filling with gas when the nozzle clicked off and I thought of you when I saw the resulting numbers. Maybe this is a sign??? Eberle and Yakupov to light it up tonight??? See the picture at the link below:


Eberle-Yakupov-Perfect-Fill

That's funny

Actually my credit card got stolen one time and the cops said gas attendants were likely the source. So I took to always filling up my car myself and always ended the #s with 94, 14, 4, 93 etc my wife has been filling the cars since the start of the season!!!

I apologize to Oilernation .. ..

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#308 Harlie
November 02 2013, 03:49PM
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Even the Red Wings jersey's look bigger and more dominating than ours.

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#309 Alsker
November 02 2013, 04:14PM
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Ok Wanye, pulled out the huge Oiler flag I had in the front window for the'06 playoff run from its hiding place where its been since The Rakes trophy wife bitchslapped him out of town and rehung it in full view of the neighbours. Lady to my left asked if it had something to do with halloween, people across the street are pointing and giving me the headshake of shame. The jerk to my right(met once said he was from Cal. havnt spoken since) is rolling around on the front lawn splitting a gut. HAPPY WANYE!!! Piss on it, someone pass me another.

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#310 BingBong
November 02 2013, 08:37PM
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Newj wrote:

What's with Petry? He's handling the puck like its a grenade. How you fault Bachman though? A breakaway & then a point blanker in the low slot.

This could turn out to be a real &*%#show.

Petry was our best d-man until about 3 games ago, when for some unknown reason he became our worst.

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#311 OilersSuck
November 02 2013, 08:42PM
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youguysarehotgarbage wrote:

As a flames fan, i am wanting to see wins from you guys.

Do you realize how bad you need to be for this to happen,Detroit of a back to back and your supposed to be young fit team andthey jump on guys... wow

eakins might want mix some hockey stuff with strength and conditioning program

f**k off flamer. get off our oilers site. flamers deserve to die

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#312 Albert
November 02 2013, 08:52PM
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Hey, was I napping? When did Mactavish sign the Nuge's twin sister. He did she manage to wear #94 too?

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#313 Johe
November 02 2013, 09:08PM
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*starts stabbing self in eye*

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#314 Doug Diggler
November 02 2013, 09:52PM
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Dallas Oilers wrote:

Guys, what do you expect? You're putting junior players against an elite team...there aren't any quality veterans to shield your #1 overall picks. They will get manhandled until they reach their prime. Kane and Toews had Ladd, Byfuglien, Sopel, Keith, Seabrook, Bolland, to learn from. Crosby had quality veterans to grow under, albeit a very short time, because he's a generational talent. This isn't a balanced team. It's basically players that are just removed from junior hockey playing top line minutes against NHL players in their prime. You will get killed.

Eakins can do all the coaching he wants, but nothing will happen until the roster is fixed. They can have all the compete and hard work you want, but if you play a junior player against an NHL player in his prime, 10 times out of 10, the NHL player wins.

I agree with what your saying here, but some of the players you used as examples were pretty poor. Bolland started same year as kane and toews. Byfuglien had played 30 something games before in the nhl. Even some of the other guys only had 1 or 2 seasons, so I don't see where the oilers have not had at least equal veterans to show the rookies coming in the proper way to play.

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#315 Alsker
November 02 2013, 10:36PM
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Rob Gilgan wrote:

LaBarbara has been decent.

Thought Bachman was starting? Oh, 5-0, I understand

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#316 Saskguy
November 03 2013, 06:30AM
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DSF wrote:

Eakins is done.

Just a matter of time.

I didn't agree with the last 2 coach firings, but I gotta say, I think he should have came in as Ralphs assistant. I just hope this dressing room Isn't beyond repair. If it helps make a trade send Yak and who ever has the poorest attitude amongst Ebs, Nuge and Hall. They really miss Perron when he's not in the line up... GRIT

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#317 rob
November 03 2013, 08:18AM
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I hope they trade Hall to boston so i can make my second favorite team my first favorite team and forget the oil!the only reason I watch is for Hall,hes the only one that plays like he gives a kcuf!

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#318 JamieN
November 03 2013, 08:33AM
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To be quite honest, I tried to watch Saturday's game against Detroit . I changed the channel ten minutes into the first period. It's not the commentators on the broadcast making futile attempts to point out the positives about this squad. Or fans and media in general attempting to make heads or tails of this team's lack of success . It's what I see on the ice that made me rather indifferent to this team . No longer will I take time in my evening to watch this team play a soulless, empty brand of hockey filled with confusion and a lack of ....... Passion. Like I said , I am indifferent towards taking time from my day/evening to devote to this organization. It is that indifference that makes me absolutely furious with the Oilers. I blame you , the entire Edmonton Oilers hockey club , from the part time janitor on weekends to Mr Katz , for robbing me of my passion for this team. Sure there is the arguement that we , the fans, are to blame for letting this team bask in futility by selling out our antiquated arena every game night. Maybe this Club is foolish enought to believe the fans buy into this swill being fed to them by their Propaganda department. All I know is the product on the ice stinks, it has for a long time now. The excuses are now tired and hollow because they have been used by everyone . It's high time theat everyone involved with the hockey club takes a long hard look at themselves and asks " what am I doing here? What am I / are we trying to achieve here ? And lastly What am I willing to do to achieve it?

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#319 2004Z06
November 03 2013, 08:38AM
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As a former tier 2 fan I didn't even watch the game last night. Was offered tickets and politely declined. Yup, that's where I am at! How did it turn out by the way?

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#320 Sean17
November 03 2013, 12:03PM
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Is this a record for most posted comments on Oilersnation???

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#321 K_Mart
November 03 2013, 12:07PM
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The solution has to come from the players in the room, and it has to happen every shift from here on. Sadly, I no longer believe we have the players in place to accomplish that task.

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#322 Alsker
November 02 2013, 01:27PM
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lol..hey Sir Wanye did you just copy and paste the last lineup you did here...thats ok, just tells me I havent downed enough Capt M yet to be able to endure another rousing Oiler outing.

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#323 Rama Lama
November 02 2013, 01:30PM
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No more predictions! It's causing the problems........now everyone retract your predictions, and the Oilers will dominate.

Anything less will ensure this train wreck in slow motion will haunt your dreams!

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#324 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
November 02 2013, 03:46PM
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Why would one switch from drinking Crown n Coke to Royal Reserve n Pepsi? I mean thats like switching from Timmies to that over-priced American Swamp Water*. Both are a MAJOR step down

* aka Starbucks

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#325 Harlie
November 02 2013, 03:51PM
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Todd wrote:

@WANYE - For the next photoshop contest.

http://i.imgur.com/1XIyPjN.jpg

Gold!

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#326 R-Dawg
November 02 2013, 04:11PM
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In keeping with the theme, my wife bought me some Oilers p.j sweats in 06 during the run. I have just torn them up and will be using them as shop rags. Here's to the Oil! 3-1 win!!

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#327 Darrell
November 02 2013, 06:33PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Didn't MC79 (Delow) do a thesis on how bad this line actually was?

The Oilers can’t help but re-invent there past mistakes!!

Bloody hell! Like, why fire Krueger then?

"Their" not "there" for Christ sakes get educated ! * trying getting mad a dumb mistakes before the game for my game day change ..

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#328 oilredemption
November 02 2013, 09:08PM
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Reinharts are man, if he can't do it, no one can :D

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#329 Outdoor guy
November 02 2013, 09:19PM
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LoweBlow wrote:

I'm watching, hoping, waiting for the fans to begin to boo and pull out the paper bags.

This is the sole reason why I'm currently watching.

An Oiler goal wouldn't even please me anymore.

I'm sick of the excuses. I just want them to lose brutally so there are no more 'we were out-finished' garbage. The Oil have been lucky to have been a part of the games they've played.

Nobody will boo. Everyone wants to go to an NHL game. Somebody will take the tickets. This organization sucks. Stay away, give Eakins a cheeseburger to put on some bulk. This is sad. Move the team to Kansas City. Then Katz might not get the cable feed!!

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#330 quinn the eskimo
November 02 2013, 10:59PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Now Belov taken out by his own team mate. There goes their best D man. Keystone cops. Pure comedy.

Belov sucks. Slow as sh!t through a frozen turkey and dumb. Good effin riddance. Petry was abysmal in the 1st. I feel like puking, and it ain't the whisky or the sight of myself in tight whiteys (bad enough). It's this team. I no longer have belief when before I had. I feel sick.

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#331 Rod from Viking
November 03 2013, 06:24AM
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DCC wrote:

Love your name....anyone that enters that building is getting bent over.

And when you leave you feel like shi#.

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#332 pelhem grenville
November 03 2013, 08:26AM
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hemi... I've never been well balanced...this team doesn't help that...I suppose neither will the leaves team but at least there aren't THREE HUNDRED+ sad a$$ fan comments I'll have to read after every game...

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#333 madjam
November 03 2013, 10:07AM
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Beyond atrocious management ,questionable coaching and another uninspiring team that excites almost nobody anymore ,fans are turning away in support spiritually of our club . Entertainment has been vampired/sucked right out of the fans .Can hardly blame the fans for turning their backs on management , coaching and team . All that seems to remain is the Kool-Aid rhetoric that is falling on more and more deaf ears . That's what they built and that's now what they are getting for their failed efforts . Should lead to change but unlikely with this current group .

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#334 MMAX
November 03 2013, 10:47AM
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When is somebody(Katz) gonna say enough is enough? Does he even care? It makes me sick to see the cameras showing shots of Lowe and MacT up in the box with dumbfounded looks on their faces. When is this nightmare ever going to end? It seemed that Feaster was the laughing stock of GMs but not anymore. It's time for Mr. K to take his head out of his a** and do something. I've pretty much given up hope, this season is done already. Last night was the first game I watched in a long time; nothing better to do with all the snow, plus I had a 6 pack to kill left over from Halloween. I didn't get mad or yell at the tv, I just accepted the fact that we are just not good enough,and haven't been since 2006. The Oil Change series is nothing but a joke and losing is going to happen year after until something is done. "I'm pretty confident we can see some significant growth in the near future"...with those words MacT,you and Lowe need to go.

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#335 K_Mart
November 03 2013, 12:21PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I believe that the coach has been tuned out by the players. It's hard to come to the realization by Mac T that this coach is ' done like dinner"!

Yes he was a good coach for opposition players like Lars Eller.......man did he teach him something. The problem is he never taught our players anything, except not to eat donuts.

HIs systems and philosophies were never embraced by any team members except Andrew Ference. His line combinations were idiotic. His line match-ups even worse. He made the PP a joke. He made the PK a joke. He regularly told his players it was all their fault by not working hard enough.

By any measure it's patently obvious that the players stopped playing for him.

If I were Katz I would ask one question.........if the Oilers were Rexall Drugs, would he put up with this?

If the oilers were Rexall Drugs? Well, the seats are always full and pages like this one are getting 400+ comments on articles. I'd say the $$ is still flowing.

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#336 Sammer003
November 03 2013, 12:43PM
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rob wrote:

Hire Gordon Ramsey as the coach,mabey he could motivate these guys!

Make Lars Eller his assistant - Eller seems to motivate the Oilers.

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#337 MessyEH!
November 02 2013, 02:26PM
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Wanye wrote:

I BEG YOU TO DRINK ROYAL RESERVE AND PEPSI FOR THE GOOD OF OUR OILERS

You sir are a monster!

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#338 Dog Train
November 02 2013, 05:02PM
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Stupid CBC thinks I would rather watch the Habs and Avalanche tonight. No way Jose.

The three days off has me excited for this game. That will probably only last for a period or so but I am back on the kool-aid! The Oilers usually play the Red Wings tough so 4-3 Oilers in a shootout! I'll watch the game on the computer so if we win, I will have to get used to watching games on my computer.

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#339 Big Daddy
November 02 2013, 07:06PM
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Wonger Jr. wrote:

What a great game Tor- Van! See what happens when you have 8 JERKS on your team to agitate and fight! Oil need to pick up Joey McDonald off of waivers tomorrow. Also, when the Canuckleheads put Alberts on waivers soon ( fought Big Mac to a draw a few years ago) pick him up! I don't care if he can't skate- we need way more TOUGH JERKS on this team! WE NEED SOME JERKS WHO CAN FIGHT MAC T!!!! DESPARATELY!!! TOOTOO, Engelland , Alberts, Ott, Folignom Zack Smith,etc. etc. etc.

Wonger Junior sounds like a chip off of the old block- Wonger Sr. I agree! Let's get some TOUGH JERKS into this SOFT- except GAZDIC lineup!

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#340 Alsker
November 02 2013, 07:48PM
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In one final act to break the curse I rescue my Salo jersey from the world of mothballs. Holy sh%t, forgot it was a 3rd jersey..sweet..have no fear Tommy is in the house(providing Detroit doesnt shoot from center).

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#341 Gerry
November 02 2013, 09:07PM
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Kassian takes out Bolland. Hmmm 40 + games

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#342 Zamboni Driver
November 02 2013, 09:22PM
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@LoweBlow

The Wings are tired and bored.

And up 2-0 against the J-V.

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#343 Rob Gilgan
November 02 2013, 10:31PM
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Alsker wrote:

Sounds like I should be glad I had family sh^t to do tonite and haven't heard/seen anything of the game. Is it too late to ask if ANY Oiler actually showed they cared tonite.

LaBarbara has been decent.

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#344 pelhem grenville
November 03 2013, 08:39AM
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vetinari wrote:

Sadly, can't find it in my DNA to cheer for Toronto-- maybe Chicago? At least that was a successful rebuild...

...love the Hawks V...but to come on here and say I think im a hawks fan now would show as frontrunning and i'm not that way ...the leafs have Bolland always one of my favorite players ...I was once a leaf fan in the 70's but fell off the bandwagon when they traded Lanny...I wandered in the desert until I moved to Etown and GotGretz...i'm back in the less than flourishing Ontario now again...retired sorta and just really diggin'on the weather and how the leaves are still turning colors...and winning more helps...these times for oiler fans are tuff but I don't have to play if I don't want to, do I?

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#345 oilmyoil
November 03 2013, 10:03AM
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can we just lock up these so called hockey players in the lock er room so they don't embarrass themselves anymore

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#346 MattL
November 03 2013, 10:09AM
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What exactly is firing KLowe going to fix about this team today? Do you mean you want a new GM? Do you want a better coach? Different players? Who do you suggest as replacements? Because if you fire KLowe, one or more of those things is probably going to happen too.

Or do you just want to see someone punished for hurting your poor hockey feelings?

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#347 Zarny
November 03 2013, 10:10AM
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spliff wrote:

Which team will want Ebs, Nuge or Hall? All making 6 bills a year, and not showing they are worth that kind of coin.

The Oil have really painted themselves into a corner. I wonder how many interviews MacT had with Eakins before the was hired? Getting the right coach crucial, but from what I understand Eakins was hired after one interview. If that is the case, this is complete negligence by MacT. You'd think MacT would check out Eakins systems proposal and do a pros and cons analysis. It all smells like amateurville to me, but then why am I surprised. The management of this team has been amateurish for 20 years know.

Like many poster here, I am a lifelong diehard fan, and I keep hanging in there, checking the scores and trying to be hopeful, but last night's game was a real turn-off. I am getting closer and closer to apathy. The goal for an NHL team is to win the Cup, and Step One is making the playoffs. We are so far away from Step One, and have been for too long that whats the point in cheering for this team. What is the f*cking point in cheering for a team, whose management is so mediocre, that they can't get their team even close to the playoffs, in a league where 16/30 teams make the playoffs?

Good grief, you can't be serious.

There are 29 other teams who would take Hall, Ebs or Nuge in a heartbeat.

Based on their career Octobers, Iginla and Luongo probably never play in the NHL.

I guess Phi should just waive Claude Giroux too lol.

Get a grip.

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#348 Derek
November 03 2013, 10:13AM
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@hemi

This team is exactly where they belong in standings given upper management's public posturing during this so called rebuild. For years KLowe Tambo and the various coaches have given the players an excuse for why they should not be expected to win because the team is rebuilding and they are young. This is professional hockey, the players are getting payed elite salaries, the fans are paying full prices for tickets and merchandise, there was never/nor should have been a excuse for losing. Winning is all that matters in sports if your not expecting to compete and win every time you hit the ice then your in the wrong business. Now having created and nurtured a culture that says losing is acceptable for years, it is asinine for management to think they can flip the switch and turn players (who are in the habit of losing and believing on some level its expected) into winners. If Katz wants to win he will first have to fire Lowe, all of management and the coaching staff and start over. No more former Oilers or inexperienced coaches. I dont want this regime to even touch the roster for fear they would only make things worse for their potential replacements.

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#349 boxman
November 03 2013, 10:47AM
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Zarny wrote:

100% correct.

It's sad how many people wet their pants after one month.

Based on their career Octobers Iginla and Luongo wouldn't even be NHL players.

Zarny I think it is just wonderful that after remembering only one month of watching the Oilers you feel qualified to lecture people who have been ardent fans for years and years. I wish you would explain to the rest of us how to empty our heads so thoroughly that the years and years of futility and incompetence do not exist. Thank you so much for your empathy towards us bed wetters that wore a helmet playing football! Had we known what you and Michel knew we would have ditched our helmets also so we couldn't remember Klowe et al these past many years.

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#350 PutzStew
November 03 2013, 12:04PM
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MattL wrote:

What exactly is firing KLowe going to fix about this team today? Do you mean you want a new GM? Do you want a better coach? Different players? Who do you suggest as replacements? Because if you fire KLowe, one or more of those things is probably going to happen too.

Or do you just want to see someone punished for hurting your poor hockey feelings?

None of the Above. The answer you are looking for is attitude and this poor attitude started at the top (See Mr. Six Stanley Cup Rings). To be honest if I was a fan anymore I would be calling for the head of Katz after he screwed you on the arena deal but hey what do I care. Those aren't my tax payer dollars.

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