David Perron: MacTavish’s Masterpiece?

Jonathan Willis
November 24 2013 11:30AM

With the Edmonton Oilers struggling as they are, Craig MacTavish hasn’t exactly been given a free pass by fans in his first full season as general manager. What even his most ardent critics should agree on, though, is that it looks like he fleeced the St. Louis Blues when he pawned off Magnus Paajarvi and a draft pick in exchange for David Perron.

Perron was already a pretty good player when MacTavish added him. But the 25-year-old forward is on pace to exceed his previous career bests – and by a lot.

The Basic Numbers

The chart above shows Perron’s 82-game pace from every season in his career where he played more than 40 games. The only preceding season even close to his early work this year was 2011-12, where Perron rode a high shooting percentage to a 30-goal pace.

The really astonishing item here is Perron’s shot totals. Players don’t typically see huge leaps in shot totals, but Perron is running at more than double his established career rate. What’s going on?

Five-on-five

Numbers for this chart (and the next one) come from ExtraSkater.com and BehindtheNet.ca.

There really isn’t much to see at this level: Perron is a hair below his career goal numbers and a touch above his career assist numbers.

But something interesting happens when we compare Perron’s shot numbers for this season to last season. Perron had 61 shots at five-on-five in 48 games a year ago; this season he has 54 in 20 games. He’s firing the puck roughly twice as often as he has in the past once ice-time is accounted for. His goal totals are only at his career rate because his shooting percentage is half what it was last year at even-strength.

In short: he’s been good so far, but if these shot numbers are for real he’s likely going to be even better at evens in the near future. Which is frightening.

Five-on-four

Perron’s numbers are through the roof here. Some of that may come from playing on a better power play unit – it’s extremely difficult to separate teammate and coaching effects from player talent when looking at special teams numbers – and the assist totals in particular may not be ridiculous.

As for the goal totals? Digging into the shot numbers again, we find that Perron is again firing the puck at roughly twice the rate he did in St. Louis, but this time his shooting percentage is roughly double what it was last season. This to some degree will off-set the expected rise in his five-on-five shooting percentage.

In other words, these numbers are likely going to come down because that spike in shooting percentage probably isn’t sustainable, but even so he’s legitimately on pace for a career-best season.

The Biggest Question

I can’t recall an instance of an experienced NHL forward suddenly doubling his shot rates at the age of 25. One of the reasons people like me prize shot rates so much is because they tend to be pretty stable; players reach an established level of ability and move a bit but the fluctuations are nowhere near as dramatic as shooting percentage is.

I don’t know if Perron can keep up this shooting pace, and I didn’t watch him closely enough in St. Louis to hazard a guess as to what’s changed. One item that stands out – Tyler Dellow brought it to my attention on Twitter last night – is that Perron is getting a higher percentage of his shots through to the net (he has 16 missed shots on 80 shots this year; last year the number was 31 on 84) and that seems like something that probably won’t continue, but it isn’t close to being the whole explanation either.

My gut feeling is that Perron shoots a little less frequently simply because this is so far out of the norm, but at the same time it seems entirely possible to me that this is a breakout campaign and an indication of a more trigger-happy player.

If so, that’s fantastic news for Edmonton. Perron is under contract for two more years at a $3.812 million cap hit; that’s a pretty fair deal for a 50-point guy and a ridiculously good deal for a player who will challenge for 30 goals every year if he keeps shooting like this.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 pkam
November 24 2013, 03:49PM
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DSF wrote:

You know the Oilers picked Alex Plante and Riley Nash ahead of Perron, right?

I know, and I also know the head amateur scout Kevin Prendergast for that draft has been replaced.

You know Canucks picked Patrick White just ahead of Perron, right? And you know that the Canucks picked Cody Hodgson ahead of Erik Karlsson and Jordan Eberle, right?

And you know that head amateur scout is still with the Canucks organization, right?

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#2 D
November 24 2013, 11:39AM
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Perron for Pajaarvi is looking like a Sather type of deal right now.

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#3 Thumby
November 24 2013, 12:08PM
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oilersinsider wrote:

And I never would have thought he'd draw penalties better than MPS, but he does. Perron brings the Oilers exactly the kind of sandpaper they needed and he's and offensive weapon.

Just like he said in his first presser. MacTavish will be judged on his work and his forwards are a plus. His defense is still up for debate.

Belov looks like a nice pickup...

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#4 dangilitis
November 24 2013, 11:15PM
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DSF wrote:

Perron was moved as a salary dump so the Blues could sign Chris Stewart and TJ Oshie.

With Backes, Stewart, Oshie, Reaves, Cracknell, Sobotka and Lapierre, the Blues are a very gritty team.

No surprise that Perron is a different player now that he's not playing Hitchcock's D first system.

Too bad the Oilers didn't draft him when they had a chance.

"Too bad the Blackhawks didn't draft Patrick Sharp when they had the chance back in 2001.

Adam Munro, Matt Keith, Craig Anderson (who they lost on waivers), Nicolas Corbeil were all drafted by Chicago, ahead of Philly's 95th pick."

... is what a pathetic and sour old loser would say!

Who the heck cares how a team acquires a player? Flyers got fleeced in 2005 and the Hawks made up for that poor draft big time with this trade 4 years later. Sound familiar?

And who cares what the circumstances in St. Louis were at the time? Oh, they had to shed salary? Thanks, captain obvious! MacT was an opportunist, and 28 other teams lost out, case closed. Arguing anything around this point and blaming the team that won the trade for not drafting Perron in the first place is loser talk, coming from someone who likes to argue for the sake of it.

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#5 oilersinsider
November 24 2013, 11:43AM
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And I never would have thought he'd draw penalties better than MPS, but he does. Perron brings the Oilers exactly the kind of sandpaper they needed and he's and offensive weapon.

Just like he said in his first presser. MacTavish will be judged on his work and his forwards are a plus. His defense is still up for debate.

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#6 Wax Man Riley
November 24 2013, 12:16PM
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My guess is that Perron is a true professional. He came in here a little older and a little more mature, with an outside view of this organization. When he sees that the team needs grit, and the coach asks for more grit, he delivers.

When he sees that this team needs to shoot more, and the coach says that you can't pass the puck into the net, he thinks "ok then I will shoot more."

I think it is simply Perron realizing what needs to be done and doing it. He is leading by example, and I hope the rest of the team takes note.

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#7 A-Mc
November 24 2013, 12:00PM
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When I heard that we were getting Perron, I watched some StL games to see what he was about. In those games he looked shifty with his hands but he definitely didn't look like a constant threat. Also, he wasn't as gritty as we have seen so far from him.

I was on the fence at first but now that we have seen what he consistently brings, he was a steal! His play looks different by my eye but it doesn't look unreasonable or unsustainable.

Some players just fit better with certain teams/systems; I really hope Perron has found HIS catalyst for good Play, here in edm.

If you're going to have small forwards, you want them to be gritty like Perron.

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#8 David S
November 24 2013, 01:09PM
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I'm continually amazed that some people who rely on stats are confounded by the possibility that a pro athlete might do something different or change something about his game to acquire massive improvements (legally I mean - not "The Armstrong way"). Being at the top of your sport doesn't mean you can't always strive to get better. Sometimes in the course of doing so you discover something simple that puts you on a new level. That's one of the coolest things about sport.

On the other hand, Perron's improvement might be the result of something as inane as a training camp conversation like this:

Eakins: Hey David, you ever thought about shooting more? Might help.

Perron: Nope. But I'll give it a try and see what happens.

*High fives*

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#10 Rob...
November 24 2013, 12:21PM
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Thumby wrote:

Belov looks like a nice pickup...

My fear with Belov is that he'll continue to improve and get snatched up by a contender instead of re-signing with the Oilers.

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#11 Spydyr
November 24 2013, 01:02PM
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DSF wrote:

Perron was moved as a salary dump so the Blues could sign Chris Stewart and TJ Oshie.

With Backes, Stewart, Oshie, Reaves, Cracknell, Sobotka and Lapierre, the Blues are a very gritty team.

No surprise that Perron is a different player now that he's not playing Hitchcock's D first system.

Too bad the Oilers didn't draft him when they had a chance.

Too bad the other 28 teams didn't either.

Good grief.

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#12 HOFFFF
November 24 2013, 01:09PM
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DSF wrote:

Perron was moved as a salary dump so the Blues could sign Chris Stewart and TJ Oshie.

With Backes, Stewart, Oshie, Reaves, Cracknell, Sobotka and Lapierre, the Blues are a very gritty team.

No surprise that Perron is a different player now that he's not playing Hitchcock's D first system.

Too bad the Oilers didn't draft him when they had a chance.

His point totals are almost identical to the guy we did draft. What is your point? Actually I don't want to hear it but I'm sure we will anyways. We could have also picked Jakub Voracek or Logan Couture or Jamie Benn, heck even PK. But we didn't.

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#13 Spydyr
November 24 2013, 01:28PM
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DSF wrote:

Well, considering he was drafted 26th and by the Blues, while the Oilers had 3 first round picks before that, that would leave only 22 teams who passed.

Some of those were busy picking the likes of Patrick Kane, JVR, Kyle Turris, Karl Alzner, Jakub Voracek, Logan Couture, Lars Eller, Ken Shattenkirk, Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty, so it appears only a few teams missed and only one of them had 3 first round picks.

My bad only 22 other teams missed him. Keep cherry picking drafts.Hindsight is always 20/20.

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#14 Fresh Mess
November 24 2013, 01:29PM
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I hated this trade when MacLooselips made it. I thought MPS had turned a corner in his play last season and was starting to protect the puck with his body and take it to the net. I thought MPS AND a second rounder was a terrible price to pay for Perron. I thought he was another small skill player on a team already overloaded with them.

I was wrong.

I knew Perron had skill and great hands. What I didn't know was how much grit and agitation he had in his game. He has been excellent, and I am happy to admit I was very wrong about that trade.

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#15 BC BOY
November 24 2013, 01:50PM
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Seems like MacT knows a good player when he sees one, Belov, Gordon, Perron, Nurse.

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#16 DSF
November 24 2013, 01:22PM
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HOFFFF wrote:

His point totals are almost identical to the guy we did draft. What is your point? Actually I don't want to hear it but I'm sure we will anyways. We could have also picked Jakub Voracek or Logan Couture or Jamie Benn, heck even PK. But we didn't.

You know the Oilers picked Alex Plante and Riley Nash ahead of Perron, right?

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#17 Mikey
November 24 2013, 07:21PM
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DSF wrote:

Here's an idea...

Post something positive about a team that has missed the playoffs 8 years in a row....

That doesn't have a player in the top 30 in scoring despite drafting in the top 10 year after year.

That has below average goaltending....

That has close to the worst centre depth in the league....

That has ZERO top pairing D...

Go!

They have won three in a row.

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#18 bulldog12
November 24 2013, 08:08PM
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Who's this DSF guy? He's an idiot and to respond to him is a waste of time, space and lowers yourself to his intellect.

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#19 pkam
November 24 2013, 05:24PM
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DSF wrote:

Yeah their amateur scouting has been a weakness forever although Edler (3rd round) Bieksa (5th round), Hansen (9th round),

Their pro scouting makes up for that pretty well by finding undrafted free agents or useful players on the waiver wire.

Alex Burrows, Chris Tanev and Eddie Lack were undrafted treasures while they've also picked up Chris Higgins, Mike Santorelli, Ryan Stanton and others for peanuts.

It is really hard to not recognize the great work of the Canucks' pro scout. Just look at Zack Kassian, Keith Ballard and David Booth.

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#21 Darrell
November 24 2013, 04:59PM
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DSF wrote:

Well, considering he was drafted 26th and by the Blues, while the Oilers had 3 first round picks before that, that would leave only 22 teams who passed.

Some of those were busy picking the likes of Patrick Kane, JVR, Kyle Turris, Karl Alzner, Jakub Voracek, Logan Couture, Lars Eller, Ken Shattenkirk, Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty, so it appears only a few teams missed and only one of them had 3 first round picks.

Just curious DSF - do other teams make mistakes in your eye or just the Oilers? It amazes me how you can continually play Monday morning QB ! What amazes me even more is that your allowed to crap on the Oilers on our own site without the admins doing something - lowetide site benefits Wanye - grow a pair !

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#22 27Ginge
November 24 2013, 01:30PM
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DSF wrote:

Well, considering he was drafted 26th and by the Blues, while the Oilers had 3 first round picks before that, that would leave only 22 teams who passed.

Some of those were busy picking the likes of Patrick Kane, JVR, Kyle Turris, Karl Alzner, Jakub Voracek, Logan Couture, Lars Eller, Ken Shattenkirk, Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty, so it appears only a few teams missed and only one of them had 3 first round picks.

Kevin Shattenkirk is pretty good but this Ken fellow must be a bust because I've never heard of him.

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#23 andrewmk20
November 24 2013, 12:40PM
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@A-Mc

He was actually pretty gritty in St Louis but his linemates were Backes and Oshie on most nights so he didn't play that role as often as he does here because he didn't need to. I was always a Perron fan and was surprised when I heard about the deal because he's a skill guy with some edge and they didn't give up much for him. I guess St Louis had to decide between him and Oshie because they're fairly similar players, kind of like Neal and Benn in Dallas. Those deals always make me scratch my head though because unlike Edmonton having too many skill perimeter players, having more than one of Benn, Neal, Oshie, or Perron seems like a good thing.

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#24 DSF
November 24 2013, 01:20PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Too bad the other 28 teams didn't either.

Good grief.

Well, considering he was drafted 26th and by the Blues, while the Oilers had 3 first round picks before that, that would leave only 22 teams who passed.

Some of those were busy picking the likes of Patrick Kane, JVR, Kyle Turris, Karl Alzner, Jakub Voracek, Logan Couture, Lars Eller, Ken Shattenkirk, Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty, so it appears only a few teams missed and only one of them had 3 first round picks.

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#25 Spydyr
November 24 2013, 04:50PM
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@DSF

Keep ignoring reality if you like.

At least 10 of those teams drafted better players and only 2 teams in that draft had more than 1 first round pick.

St Louis came away with Lars Eller and David Perron and the Oilers came away with Sam Gagner and a fist full of nothing.

Your hindsight is astonishing.

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#26 S cottV
November 24 2013, 01:31PM
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No question that the Perron deal was an excellent move by MacT. Hiring a rookie Coach that killed playoff aspirations by mid Nov was quite the opposite. Eakins let his ego get in the way, by trying to implement too much change too soon. Suspect new systems overly confused the player group and led to avoidable losses. You don't have to put "your stamp" on a hockey club right out of the gate. The Eakins way could have been staged in over time. Run more familiar systems with the focus being a strong start, not playing Eakins hockey. The swarm was a disaster and has for the most part been scrapped, but the damage is done to this season. An experienced coach would not have made these mistakes and this club is no worse than.500 at this point. Don't blame the goaltenders, this one is on MacT - for hiring a rookie Coach. Oilers should have had a chance to rally for a playoff spot this year.

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#27 @stevegregson02
November 24 2013, 01:46PM
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Two things.

Time table for full recovery from a severe concussion like the one Perron had is iffy if not impossible to predict. Often it takes a year or two for a player to feel Fully comfortable or to get back to even Being close to what they were. I have a feeling this injury, along with a very deep blues sqaud, eroded Perrons value - who prior to concussion - was pegged by many in st Louis to be a future star and an asset they wouldn't trade. His career best pace (albiet shooting inflated) i belive came in his injury year.

Second thing is and I have heard Hitchcock say this before in interviews, that players would "waste" low percentage shots and give up possession. Hitch's system has always been possession based cycle games in the o zone where shot attempts come from the point (shattenkirk - petro or Zubov - Sydor) and he likes to post players in the slots for tips or - high percentage cycle based chances. It is likely, since hitch took over (if I remember interview correctly) that he would have muzzled Perrons shot attempts from side angles - 2 of 8 of his goals this year have come off of bad angle shots - in order to not give up possession.

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#28 HOFFFF
November 24 2013, 01:28PM
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DSF wrote:

You know the Oilers picked Alex Plante and Riley Nash ahead of Perron, right?

Yep. Was just laughing about that too.

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#29 THRNHJE
November 24 2013, 01:43PM
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Wrong thread DSF, go back to the thread about MacG, this one is about MacT.

I must agree that our drafting has been historically dreadful. Someone on the other page said offer SJ's scouts copious amounts of money to come here... I could get behind that idea.

OH and on topic, I liked Magnus more than most fans did, but I thought it was a good trade when I saw it. It has turned out to be evem better than I expected.

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#31 Darrell
November 24 2013, 05:18PM
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DSF wrote:

Of course other teams make mistakes.

I'd be more that happy to discuss any team's record in the draft with you.

I amazed that you would take umbrage with any critical analysis of a team that is about to miss the playoffs for the 8th straight season.

That didn't happen accidentally you know.

Why do you login to OilersNation if we suck so bad ? Go find a winning team!

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#32 OILERSORDEATH
November 24 2013, 05:26PM
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@DSF

Wow yeah such gems, wonder why such an offensive juggernaut can just yet again score 1 goal in a game. Top notch drafting, really Impressive.

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#33 a lg dubl dubl
November 24 2013, 12:30PM
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If MacT can pull another trade like he did with Perron, for a top 2 dman this season, he should be handed the GM of the year award, even if the Oilers finish dead last again.

Petry and this yrs 1st rounder for Letang or something along that line.

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#34 DSF
November 24 2013, 01:43PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

David, if it's so simple why doesn't it happen more often?

I've looked over the 15 years of data the NHL has, and as far as I can tell no other player has seen this kind of jump in his shots totals at this age .

If it were just a matter of a conversation in training camp, you'd think we'd see this more often, no? After all, Dallas Eakins isn't exactly the only coach in the NHL who wants his players to shoot more.

I'm not sure what you do for work, David, but do you have a conversation with your boss and then decide to be twice as productive as you have ever been in your life? Is it really that easy?

Your view seems like a gross oversimplification, something that you're relying on because it's a hell of a lot easier to say 'oh, he just decided to be twice as good' when someone asks 'what happened' than it is to try and answer the question in any kind of meaningful way.

How much of it might be system related?

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#36 David S
November 24 2013, 02:22PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

David, if it's so simple why doesn't it happen more often?

I've looked over the 15 years of data the NHL has, and as far as I can tell no other player has seen this kind of jump in his shots totals at this age .

If it were just a matter of a conversation in training camp, you'd think we'd see this more often, no? After all, Dallas Eakins isn't exactly the only coach in the NHL who wants his players to shoot more.

I'm not sure what you do for work, David, but do you have a conversation with your boss and then decide to be twice as productive as you have ever been in your life? Is it really that easy?

Your view seems like a gross oversimplification, something that you're relying on because it's a hell of a lot easier to say 'oh, he just decided to be twice as good' when someone asks 'what happened' than it is to try and answer the question in any kind of meaningful way.

It's NOT simple and it DOESN'T happen more often. But it does happen.

Alot of the time I simplify to make a point because let's face it, I don't take hockey too seriously. But I have in the past been involved with elite level athletes and seen something seemingly stupid like a minor adjustment in technique be the difference between one performance level and the next.

With respect to work, it is entirely possible to be twice as productive as you ever have been before in your life. All it takes is an attitude adjustment. True, not many can make the leap but I've seen it done and the results are astounding.

To me the cool thing would have been that you noticed a quantum leap in Perron's performance and set about trying to figure out what he did that enabled the leap. You're in Oklahoma as a media person. Why don't you ask Todd Nelson for his opinion?

Instead you default to "the stats don't play out for me so...I dunno" (and yes, another simplification). But there's a really cool story going on here. Why not go ask a human what's going on instead of opening up another spreadsheet in search of clarity?

Sorry if that sounds harsh Jonathan. Stats analysis is your gig and you're damn good at it. My point is that stats are only part of the equation. They can identify anomalies but sometimes you have to chase the human factor to make sense of that story.

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#37 THRNHJE
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Rocket wrote:

What about Grebeshkov?

I mostly agree with you though. MacT (so far) has been better than Tambellini.

But still, Grebeshkov? What was MacT thinking?

Do you remember the quality play Grebs had under MacT as coach? He thought if he could get that kind of Dman again for very little, it would be amazing, if not, no big deal. Low risk move with high potential upswing, just like Belov, and Larsen in the Horcoff cap dump. I dont see picking Grebs up as a bad move, getting Larsen, Belov, and Grebs and banking on one to work out and if more did, all the better.

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#38 DSF
November 24 2013, 07:09PM
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bulldog12 wrote:

Negative negative negative You guys are really getting tiring Try coming up with something positive or remotely intelligent.

Here's an idea...

Post something positive about a team that has missed the playoffs 8 years in a row....

That doesn't have a player in the top 30 in scoring despite drafting in the top 10 year after year.

That has below average goaltending....

That has close to the worst centre depth in the league....

That has ZERO top pairing D...

Go!

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#39 DSF
November 24 2013, 01:41PM
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Spydyr wrote:

My bad only 22 other teams missed him. Keep cherry picking drafts.Hindsight is always 20/20.

Keep ignoring reality if you like.

At least 10 of those teams drafted better players and only 2 teams in that draft had more than 1 first round pick.

St Louis came away with Lars Eller and David Perron and the Oilers came away with Sam Gagner and a fist full of nothing.

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#40 Thumby
November 24 2013, 03:56PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

That's my fear as well. With Belov as he doesn't seem to be interviewed much, it's hard to gauge what his mindset is. He is getting a lot of minutes and seems to have been left to just worry about hockey so that might work in the Oilers favour. He seems like a fairly principled guy, the signing of one year deals to keep his hunger to have to play for a new contract and also keep his options open is different, but kind of refreshing.

I think we are just starting to see him come into his game, he has a surprisingly nasty streak in him which has only just started to come out. This video from the KHL is what happens when you piss him off :-)

Belov reaction

Holy crap that kick was a dangerous thing to do...

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#41 Darrell
November 24 2013, 07:22PM
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DSF wrote:

Here's an idea...

Post something positive about a team that has missed the playoffs 8 years in a row....

That doesn't have a player in the top 30 in scoring despite drafting in the top 10 year after year.

That has below average goaltending....

That has close to the worst centre depth in the league....

That has ZERO top pairing D...

Go!

We are Oiler fans on Oilersnation and belong here - done! What are you ? Let me give it a shot; you are a Bully looking for attention because no one has ever kicked your ass for it and its impossible in cyberspace where your safe ? its easy continually picking on a last place team just like the small kid at the park like people like you get off on. Go pick on someone else as we have enough to deal with around here without you calling us on it. How was that for a kick at the cat for calling your BS old man ?

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#42 Slyers
November 24 2013, 08:35PM
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DSF wrote:

Keep ignoring reality if you like.

At least 10 of those teams drafted better players and only 2 teams in that draft had more than 1 first round pick.

St Louis came away with Lars Eller and David Perron and the Oilers came away with Sam Gagner and a fist full of nothing.

As usual you use skewed results, 4 of the names you mentioned were drafted before the oilers first pick. You realize you are the joke of this site, with zero credibility.

It's sad really because this was NOT a good draft for Oilers, yet you still feel the need to distort the facts...... WOW you really just can't help your self PATHETIC !

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#43 Darrell
November 24 2013, 05:53PM
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DSF wrote:

Oh, like all teams, they make mistakes but there is a reason they've made the playoffs for 7 years in a row. (might not this season).

To what do you attribute their ongoing success?

I am an Atlanta Braves fan - making the playoffs is not enough anymore when you continually find a way to screw it up. The beauty is at least the Brave won once while the Canucks continue to disappoint.

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#44 pkam
November 24 2013, 07:31PM
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DSF wrote:

Making the playoffs is certainly not the ultimate goal but it sure beats the alternative.

The fact is, Red Wings only made the playoff twice in 16 years (from 1966-67 to 1982-83) and nobody is talking about it. Everyone is talking about their 2 cups in the last 10 years, or their 4 cups in the last 20 years.

Also, nobody is talking about the Canucks 7 years playoff streak, but everyone is talking about their 43 year cupless streak.

The only exception is Canucks fans.

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#45 pkam
November 24 2013, 07:43PM
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DSF wrote:

Everyone is talking about their 2 cups in the last 10 years, or their 4 cups in the last 20 years.

Once the Oilers do that, we'll talk about it...I promise.

We didn't have a cup in the last 20 years, or 23 years to be exact. But nowhere near 43 years. Not something to be proud of for sure. However, some fans are so proud of their 7 year playoff streak despite being cupless for 43 years.

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#46 YFC Prez
November 24 2013, 09:30PM
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Wow. This thread is totally derailed.

Mr DSF ,

Can you agree on the 2 main points from Willis' article ? 1 Mac T fleeced St. Louis on the deal sending out Paajarvi and getting Perron. 2 Perron is having a career year offensively.

I'm fairly confident even the most jaded fan such as yourself will agree with these 2 points.

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#47 DSF
November 24 2013, 12:59PM
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He was actually pretty gritty in St Louis but his linemates were Backes and Oshie on most nights so he didn't play that role as often as he does here because he didn't need to. I was always a Perron fan and was surprised when I heard about the deal because he's a skill guy with some edge and they didn't give up much for him. I guess St Louis had to decide between him and Oshie because they're fairly similar players, kind of like Neal and Benn in Dallas. Those deals always make me scratch my head though because unlike Edmonton having too many skill perimeter players, having more than one of Benn, Neal, Oshie, or Perron seems like a good thing.

Perron was moved as a salary dump so the Blues could sign Chris Stewart and TJ Oshie.

With Backes, Stewart, Oshie, Reaves, Cracknell, Sobotka and Lapierre, the Blues are a very gritty team.

No surprise that Perron is a different player now that he's not playing Hitchcock's D first system.

Too bad the Oilers didn't draft him when they had a chance.

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#48 Rocket
November 24 2013, 02:36PM
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@BC BOY

What about Grebeshkov?

I mostly agree with you though. MacT (so far) has been better than Tambellini.

But still, Grebeshkov? What was MacT thinking?

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#49 Canada 72
November 24 2013, 03:45PM
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I've yet to figure out if MacT is the real deal or not, but the evidence is starting to mount. Remember the quote from MacTavish the day Perron was acquired: "It’ll be a good test for our analytics guys. They have him with some of the game’s elite.” Hard to argue with the analytics guys getting an A on their mid-terms.

MacT also picked up Belov & Gordon and said Arcobello was worthy of a look when not many concurred. Combined with a bullet dodged in the Clarkson sweepstakes (where he had to be in the running or suffer the wrath of the fanbase), he's had a pretty nice start to his GM career.

Ticats win it 34-31. The Greenies successfully kick the tying field goal but are penalized because they have 24 guys on the field. After missing the subsequent kick after the penalty, the fans go beserk and burn down the city.

Onlookers are horrified but are also in general agreement that Regina's never looked better.

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#50 D-Unit
November 24 2013, 04:02PM
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DSF wrote:

Well, considering he was drafted 26th and by the Blues, while the Oilers had 3 first round picks before that, that would leave only 22 teams who passed.

Some of those were busy picking the likes of Patrick Kane, JVR, Kyle Turris, Karl Alzner, Jakub Voracek, Logan Couture, Lars Eller, Ken Shattenkirk, Ryan McDonagh and Max Pacioretty, so it appears only a few teams missed and only one of them had 3 first round picks.

Why no mention of how the Wild were busy picking Colton Gillies? Really, he had 10 points for the Wild, he turned out great, and was only picked 10 spots ahead of Perron.

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